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Fujifilm Finepix Real 3d W3 - The Camera wWe Need In 2020

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Orgel's Second Rule

Orgel's Second Rule

Күн бұрын

This is a walkthrough and general discussion of my favorite camera. This camera was the most popular 3d camera during the brief resurgence of 3d in the early 2000s. While 3D continues to expand its possibilities with VR, In my opinion nothing on the market today can replace this camera.

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@epiphone79
@epiphone79 8 ай бұрын
I purchased a W3 six months ago and recently bought a Xgimi 3D projector. I am blown away by the 3D images coming out of the Fujifilm miracle box, left me with a mouth wide open. A new W3 with 4k Video and a more sensitive sensor would be my minimum demand to buy it again. Simply awesome...
@orgelssecondrule9221
@orgelssecondrule9221 8 ай бұрын
100%
@epiphone79
@epiphone79 8 ай бұрын
@@orgelssecondrule9221 thanks mate for your reply. The W3 has good companion as I also use a Sony HDR-TD30 and an Insta360 Evo to document my travelling 🤞
@noapparentfunction
@noapparentfunction Жыл бұрын
i still have mine. bought it when it was still being manufactured around 2013. took some cool shots, I even had lenticular 3D wedding day photos printed for close friends. your video inspired me to get a fresh battery bring it back out.
@furtovin
@furtovin 2 жыл бұрын
This camera is a legend. A must have for all stereo/3D lovers!
@relaxinnature5003
@relaxinnature5003 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, I wish they come up with a bigger resolution in the future.
@tomcaron9113
@tomcaron9113 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve gone way back in time and are converting my W3 pics and videos into anaglyph files to view on tv with red blue glasses.
@GetOffMyyLawn
@GetOffMyyLawn Жыл бұрын
I have this camera and still use it to create victorian style stereograms and a Brian May Owl Viewer. A little trick you can try... mpo images are really jpgs containing both images. If you rename .mpo to .jpg you can open them in most image editors and see the left image.
@Knapweed
@Knapweed 3 жыл бұрын
I have a mint Fujifilm Finepix Real 3D W3. It's seen little use since I purchased it in 2010 owing to the lack of easy viewing options. It's an amazing piece of kit and produces very clear stills and video. I dug it out a few days ago and purchased 2 x N50 batteries, as the original would no longer hold a charge, and a couple of 32 GB (Maximum capacity for this camera) SD cards. It's great to see a YT video of this incredible, little camera and I intend to put it to good use purely for fun purposes. Thanks for the upload!
@orgelssecondrule9221
@orgelssecondrule9221 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure
@kafkapie
@kafkapie 4 жыл бұрын
thanks! I'm glad someone else loves this camera as much as I...
@silvertube52
@silvertube52 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that the W3 is a great camera, the only downside is poor image quality in low light. Given that the W3 was not a commercial success and the 2010 3D wave has passed, it is unlikely we'll ever see a camera like it again. The best hope for 3D right now is VR180.
@orgelssecondrule9221
@orgelssecondrule9221 3 жыл бұрын
I understand what you are saying, and that the time may have passed. I love vr180, but not quite as much, possibly due to the fact that the resolution is still so low. We can dream about the W4 can't we?
@marcbanks2181
@marcbanks2181 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. I have recently purchased Finepix Real 3D W3 digital camera and I love it. That quality is fantastic and 3D photography really interest me. Thanks for sharing your information.
@orgelssecondrule9221
@orgelssecondrule9221 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the delay in responding. Glad you enjoyed it, and glad you are enjoying the W3.. Can you believe a new version does not exist?
@drewbright3386
@drewbright3386 5 ай бұрын
I bought it 10 years ago and it recorded my memory of these yeas including my college school life and the changes of my hometown in recent yesrs .I love it ! And now i enjoy the 3d pictures and videos through meta quest2 with skybox vr player 。That really brings me back to the past ! Excellent! But it seems that fuji and other camera conpanies never produce 3d products any more,whta a pity. I now hope that apple or other mobile phone company such as XIAOMI or HUAWEI can produce 3d phones cause it‘s not hard and due to vr/ar or whatever R ,3d phones are suitable for them 。3D TIME will come to reality , i believe!
@relaxinnature5003
@relaxinnature5003 2 жыл бұрын
I have one of this, and love it. Great camera, wish it had more resolution. I took more then 5000 photos with this everywhere I travel. I made a 3D slide show with Vegas Pro software and burned on BD to watch on my big screen. It is awesome. But I use 16.9 format and it looks excellent on the big screen.
@juanrpollo
@juanrpollo 4 жыл бұрын
Good to find your channel, I also love the W3, yours seems to be showing a lot of use :-), I've had mine for a couple of years and is beginning to look like yours. Thanks also for reminding me about the manual menu.
@bouilu7519
@bouilu7519 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Was collecting some of these, find same Fuji on Ebay, for decent price, but also what I liked more, there's Sony TD10/20/30 series which is kind of perfect for such a filming! Liked it a lot
@johanneshainer3460
@johanneshainer3460 3 жыл бұрын
For the near field there's the RED Hydrogen one, that's going for 150$ these days used on Ebay. There's also the Leia Lume Tablet just released, I suggest taking a look, get my used Hydrogen today, and if it's nice I'll order the Tablet too.
@orgelssecondrule9221
@orgelssecondrule9221 3 жыл бұрын
How is the hydrogen?
@johanneshainer3460
@johanneshainer3460 3 жыл бұрын
@@orgelssecondrule9221 I love it as a Camera and as a small 3D Screen. If You use it as that and You're OK with it to not get OS Updates, You are fine. I am relatively old though and I still know how it feels to take a deticated Picture taking Device with me, and I don't care. If You want the one Device does it all approach then this Phone probably won't fit the bill for you since it's still running an older android. But you won't find a 3D Phone/Camera that does all that at the Moment and of all 3d Cameras with 3d screens this is by far the best with the best 3d Format and the tools for Video Conversion etc. Are currently actively developed by Leia. Love the Tablet too, ordered one even though the Price is somewhat high till you have it shipped to Europe, but i had the Money left because I couldn't go to Vacation because of the Pandemic, and I wanted to support the Development of the Technology and the Eco System.
@MrTruth111
@MrTruth111 24 күн бұрын
getting my W3 after the weekend
@gbresaleking
@gbresaleking 3 ай бұрын
I hope to find one for sale reasonably sometime as I'd love to try it out :)
@sergioin3D
@sergioin3D 3 жыл бұрын
I really want a 3D camera like this, I have the htc evo 3D it’s a phone but the camera is also 3D and shows the user a 3D image; just like the Nintendo 3Ds
@atanumandal3586
@atanumandal3586 3 жыл бұрын
I have this Fuji Finepix Real 3D W3 camera! It is an absolute great camera even today... Only downside... the video is not 1080p! That's a let down. Otherwise everything is great!! I also have the Insta360 EVO VR180 camera. Again this is a great 3D camera. Has VR180 with 5.7k resolution. You need a OculusGo VR headset to really enjoy the immersive media captured by it.
@LG141602
@LG141602 3 жыл бұрын
HELLO. I know for a fact there's software to upscale low quality video into 4k. Of course is not close to real 4k. But looks way better for sure. It uses A. I.
@trollenz
@trollenz 2 жыл бұрын
I've bought a phone for $40 the HTC EVO 3D... But the picture quality is soooo garbage... I have to find one of those. The good thing about the EVO 3D is that it has a real 3D screen that you can see without glasses, which is pretty amazing. It would be nice to see the W3 pictures on the HTC screen. It reads mpo format.
@thes3Dnetwork
@thes3Dnetwork 4 жыл бұрын
Just wish the Fuji shot a higher video resolution in 3D.
@thes3Dnetwork
@thes3Dnetwork 4 жыл бұрын
@@orgelssecondrule9221 I recently bought one because for short filmmaking it ticks off a lot of my boxes but when I blow the video up full screen on my monitor it looks awful. It doesn't look that bad on a phone screen.
@thes3Dnetwork
@thes3Dnetwork 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Im thinking of selling my Fuji already to go-to the GoPro 3D system. You can change out the fisheye lens with not too much effort. I've just never sold anything on eBay before. Ugh. Should have researched more to begin with.
@oebleh
@oebleh 2 жыл бұрын
Still own one ...in new condition. It will never go,
@yannisgk
@yannisgk 4 жыл бұрын
I was given a bad rating in an auction site 'cause at the last moment I told the guy that wanted the camera , I won't sell it!!! ;) (Surely indeed a legendary 3d camera!!!)
@yannisgk
@yannisgk 4 жыл бұрын
@@orgelssecondrule9221 back then i was thinking of buying either w3 or panasonic one (3d1???)...later i was gonna exchange w3 with the "blogger" but luckily i didn't...i still have w3 like new, but i dont use it...i love 3d but mostly as a consumer and not as a creator :)
@jordangoss9492
@jordangoss9492 4 жыл бұрын
First of all, great video. This video led me to order a W3 off of Ebay. Second of all, I was wondering if anyone here could tell me what would be the best and easiest process of getting the 3D images off this 3D camera and onto an Oculus Quest VR headset. Thank you in advance. (:
@bophoto
@bophoto 3 жыл бұрын
Wondering if you can drop the MPO's onto the file folder on the headset when attached to the laptop? Have you managed to find a way to play the video on the Quest?
@hardyboy1959
@hardyboy1959 5 ай бұрын
I was lucky enough to find one of these at the Future Shop in early 2012 for $150, it was a demo model that was being discontinued. Shortly after that, I bought the last floor model 3D Panasonic TV at the local Sears store for around six hundred bucks! I've taken thousands and thousands of 3D pictures and would like to put some online but not sure which website is best for that kind of thing.
@orgelssecondrule9221
@orgelssecondrule9221 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like you got pretty darn lucky had a good point in 3-D history :-) unfortunately it’s a bit of a pain in the butt to get the pictures online. You have to convert them from MPO files so that they are side-by-side. I know there was some kind of original software that did it easier, but when I was more active with this camera, I did it through stereo photo maker to be honest. I’ve been a little bit out of the workflow for a few years since I purchased the. ego 3-D, which is much more convenient in its file format, but nowhere near the camera that the Fuji was so look up stereo, photo maker, or SPM online and there is a lot of info there on how to do what you’re trying to do. Take care.
@2handsomeforlaw
@2handsomeforlaw 4 жыл бұрын
I bought this camera last year in mint condition for about $50 in mint condition, as the seller thought that 3D had gone out of fashion. My interest in it was if I could use it for 3d scanning or photogrammetry, does anyone here have experience with that?
@sumeeths8423
@sumeeths8423 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Where did you get it?
@trollenz
@trollenz 2 жыл бұрын
It will be absolutely useless for 3D scanning or photogrammetry. Photogrammetry will rely on hundreds or thousands of pictures, you're way better of a more recent gear which will have much better resolution and quality.
@bigradwolf5001
@bigradwolf5001 Жыл бұрын
The cross-eye method is the most efficient and cheapest way to view SBS.
@othmanskn
@othmanskn 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree with you. I had bought 2 8in glasses-free 3d media player, but a few days ago, made one OS corrupted by not shutting it down first. Unfortunately, this type of monitor is not manufactured any more. I cannot view my 50in 3d TV as well as this glassess-free monitor.
@sergioin3D
@sergioin3D 3 жыл бұрын
You’re right
@valentineepstein839
@valentineepstein839 Жыл бұрын
Very good video. I have this camera and still can't figure out how to make it to show the date of shooting on the picture. Please advise. Thank you.
@randyjack9584
@randyjack9584 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. The user manual can be overwhelming.
@victorjonesable
@victorjonesable 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison Lance. Will share.
@milankapek8887
@milankapek8887 3 жыл бұрын
Hi everybody! Can You tell me how can I make a video for VR Oculus Quest 2 by this camera? VR180 or 3D video side by side? Thanks a lot.
@BoxofDelights
@BoxofDelights 4 жыл бұрын
love it !
@BoxofDelights
@BoxofDelights 4 жыл бұрын
@@orgelssecondrule9221 already subscribed! looking forward to seeing what you create....
@saifuddinmalbari1227
@saifuddinmalbari1227 4 жыл бұрын
I do have this amazing camera.
@marksmanm
@marksmanm 4 жыл бұрын
Hello all! It's great to know someone like me who is also treasuring this camera! I dug out some old 3D videos shot using this camera recently. I am looking around for solutions to edit the 3D footage. The first obstacle is how to make the movie editor (FCPX) able to recognize the context of the file. I tried stereosplicer but the 64bit OS no longer allows this 32bit dated app. May I seek some advice from you?
@marksmanm
@marksmanm 4 жыл бұрын
​@@orgelssecondrule9221 the videos with sufficient lights are good, but the editing problem is to be addressed. Thanks for your suggestion Lance, let me check it out on facebook
@marksmanm
@marksmanm 4 жыл бұрын
nailed it! on windows, download Stereo Movie Maker 1.30a www.download82.com/get/download/windows/stereo-movie-maker/ it has a function to "restore L/R movies from 3D avi files"
@clubx1000
@clubx1000 10 ай бұрын
Just received this camera 2023 October please give advice
@fabianunternaehrer7402
@fabianunternaehrer7402 Жыл бұрын
Great Camera, thank you for your Video :D Now, do you know if there is a Programm which runs on a uptodate Mac to convert MOP Files to Gifs or so called Wigglegrams? Thanks a million for your help!
@kreshokresimir7139
@kreshokresimir7139 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone succeeded using the W3 as a cam through the mini HDMI port? Was able to get playback/image viewer working onto a 3D Samsung monitor, but not sure if it is possible to use it like a live cam. Fortunately picked up two of these W3 back in 2011 on clearance, and looking to connect them to a device like a nvidia Jetson for real-time 3D vision processing.
@thehelitonsilva
@thehelitonsilva 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using my W3 a lot more now that I bought my 3d tablet.
@trollenz
@trollenz 2 жыл бұрын
What 3D tablet please ?
@KJPage
@KJPage 4 жыл бұрын
You should grab yourself a HTC evo 3D. Has paralax display also. I love mine. And there is a new modern 3D phone too. I forget the brand.
@isabelfuenmayor8449
@isabelfuenmayor8449 2 жыл бұрын
HELLO MY CAMERA SAY ERROR DE ENFOQUE HELPME PLEASE
@WhoIsSerafin
@WhoIsSerafin 8 ай бұрын
So if you print the photo you get the 3d effect?
@TheTwsa
@TheTwsa 2 жыл бұрын
But how to play 3d recorded videos on 3D tv, passive 3D?
@rs4mula415
@rs4mula415 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, dope video. I’m thinking of buying one of these cameras but had a question. When you export the footage from this camera to an editing software such as Premiere Pro, does the footage display as anaglyph? Or do you have to convert it some way? Many thanks
@trollenz
@trollenz 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure but it highly doubt it would be anaglyph, it must be side by side or some kind of interlaced format. Definitely editable.
@relaxinnature5003
@relaxinnature5003 2 жыл бұрын
Use Vegas Pro, it does 3D editing
@beatlehmann8344
@beatlehmann8344 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do a step by step video about the process of making images taken by the Fujifilm Real 3D viewable on Oculus Go. I have no idea what Pigasus and Plex are so watching your video about renaming side by side files did no help me at all unfortunately. I would be ever so grateful, because there is nothing out there for somebody not familiar with the basics of this whole process especially with a Mac!
@MatteoMi
@MatteoMi Жыл бұрын
I believe you can view the picture if you turn into sbs and watch into the oculus with the browser
@TheBeggFamily
@TheBeggFamily 2 жыл бұрын
How do I get video from this camera to be shown on KZfaq, using a MacBook Pro? All the tools seem to be PC only.
@oneandatwo
@oneandatwo Жыл бұрын
I have my W-3 in mint condition, for $500. Now I see them selling for as high as $1,000.
@sqirrelboy
@sqirrelboy 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, why do you not just edit a path through the image from the true 3d camera. Seems like that would be best by far
@clintoverstreet6825
@clintoverstreet6825 4 жыл бұрын
Can the W3 be connected directly to a printer and then print left and right 2d images to create a stereoview card without processing through Stereo Photomaker? Or can you save individual left and right jpegs directly onto the SD card?
@orgelssecondrule9221
@orgelssecondrule9221 3 жыл бұрын
I do not believe that you can print left and right directly from the camera. I have always use StereoPhoto maker
@mashtacore
@mashtacore 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! What if I take two photos to a gif animation... Will be a 3d effect or not? Where are some film photocameras (like nimslo 3d or nishika 8000 or 9000, reto 3d) and they use 3 objectives to get 3-position 3d-gif animation. That looks amazing
@orgelssecondrule9221
@orgelssecondrule9221 3 жыл бұрын
Hi.. sorry youtube did not alert me sooner. I do not believe that this does the wiggle gram effect on the camera, however there are softwares that do.
@kidonlsd6256
@kidonlsd6256 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried to make a wiggle photo animation?
@ninoletigre
@ninoletigre 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone know how this camera compares to the Weeview Camera?
@ninoletigre
@ninoletigre 4 жыл бұрын
@@orgelssecondrule9221 I had the W3 a few years ago, but unfortunately lost it. Was considering the Weeview as a replacement. I vaguely remember the W3 (at least my copy) had an issue where there would be the slightest bit of difference in color and orientation between the left and right image in every shot, and that the W1 didn't have this issue... I'm curious if you've had that issue with your W3, Lance.
@brazhnikov
@brazhnikov 4 жыл бұрын
Sent Weeview back to Amazon. So (SO!) poor quality. Unusable. Will try W3 today.
@brazhnikov
@brazhnikov 4 жыл бұрын
Lance Wald Got it in a perfect condition. Photos is much more better then Weeview’s (it was released at about 8 years later). Video is unusable. But I knew it.
@brazhnikov
@brazhnikov 4 жыл бұрын
Lance Wald, trying to show the footage through oculus quest and iPhone X. Looking to the way to convert mpo to sbs jpeg and any soft for the quest to view mpo directly.
@raamenstallings
@raamenstallings 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any idea where I can find one now
@orgelssecondrule9221
@orgelssecondrule9221 3 жыл бұрын
ebay
@EspenFrafalne
@EspenFrafalne 4 жыл бұрын
First of all; WOW! That camera is still $900 on Amazon!!! Found a £400 USED one through a link on the fujifilm website... Thats EXPENSIVE for 10MP photos, and 720p videos, considering the quality 180 and 360 stereoscopic cameras you can get for that price... Secondly; my impression has been that VR headsets are mostly for hadcore gamers. Really dont see why stereoscopic imagery should be limited to that "niche". Pretty sure smart-glasses are gonna become more and more common. I have some cheap ones with stereoscopic 3D function, but 180 and 360 videos are useless on that device... Maybe i just gotta buy some more expensive ones. Im KINDA tempted to get a VR headset, but i mostly just want something small and portable for watching movies while camping...
@jamesloll4601
@jamesloll4601 3 жыл бұрын
Funny, same thing here. I actually got the Occulus Quest 2 to actually watch movies on it! Games are a bonus but weren't my motivation factor. Think I got lucky as I found a FujiFilm 3D camera for $220 American dollars in mint condition with the battery STILL SEALED in it's original packaging?!? Used??? Nope... NEW condition with zero wear and tear. Yes it wasn't in original packaging but everything screamed untouched about my camera I just bought. But as I'm learning quick, there a bit more than just focusing on the main subject now as you actually can set the focal point even?!? New learning curve as you have to set the main subject and the best focal point and you kind of have to hunt for the sweet spot so the subject and background BOTH are easy to focus on. But man... it fun learning! But when you do hit that right combination? Darn it's a sweet photo that you feel like you can almost grab into as you seriously feel the 3D effect of the photo. By the way are you talking about Glyph? It's dropped dramatically in price recently but got to realize that WAS originally a $600 dollar toy that I bought recently for just $99?!? The digital media player (cheap) is actually failing it but not the headset itself! Glyph is mobile but what good is that if the HD player you use in conjunction with it isn't mobile too! Or are you talking about those 'boxes' that hold a smart phone in the back with lens in the front? Haven't touched that myself, my androids are generally too cheap to consider it. My cell phone is actually for phone call and nothing else save for playing music through a Bluetooth speaker. Think I got REALLY lucky to find the camera in mint condition with an unused battery for the price I picked it up. Reality, I just wanted personal family photos with that extra umph seeing how family doesn't get together much anymore. :(
@EspenFrafalne
@EspenFrafalne 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesloll4601 I never heard of Glyph, but the video glasses im talking about is the "Vision 800", which is around $200 on ebay. They are android, but even though you CAN download a few apps from the playstore, this will only eat up the TINY internal memory, so videos start lagging. I was able to download VLC and still play videos, but thats pretty much the limit... The battery capacity is enough for about 1 hour of video, so no movies in one sitting. If you try to connect a charger, you will hear a very annoying sound in the earbuds. At least charging only takes around 40 minutes. I want to get some better ones - but it has turned out to be difficult to find some that are of similar size/portability. So i suspect those mobile phone things may be the best option available... I will definitely turn on airplane mode if ill ever use my phone like this though...
@EspenFrafalne
@EspenFrafalne 3 жыл бұрын
Im not sure what just happened, but when i search for video glasses now, i find tons more than the cheap and usually OLD crap i have seen in the past. Including the "Glyph" you talked about. Guess i might be getting some new ones after all.
@jamesloll4601
@jamesloll4601 3 жыл бұрын
@@EspenFrafalne Glad I peaked your interest. It's kind of sad some overpriced tech is getting undersold because it is going under but is solid on it's specks. Got to warn though Glyph Founder's Edition WAS overpriced tech with some unique features that worked in my advantage. I wear glasses but each lens in the gear can be adjusted for your own eyes with a manual focal lens. Makes for an incredible sharp image minus your glasses. Nice thing is it is made with a two hour built in battery because it was designed for watching movies and anything less than 2 hours would be an insult. My biggest gripe was the fact you couldn't plug a memory card in and it would play the movies itself! Nope, need a HD player to plug the headset in. Was SO CLOSE to being a mobile VR movie player! They are other slight detracts too, despite the lens being able to be adjusted to your own eye spacing, the corners are sometimes just out of range but just. Wont notice with movies but definitely will if you plug your PC into it. If you can find it for yourself for $99 American dollars, GO for it! easily worth double but not much beyond that. It's definitely some well crafted tech that was definitely being sold to those who could afford that $600 price line. Bottom line, with this headset you can wear it's like watching a crystal clear nineteen inch monitor about 3 feet away perfectly center towards your forward view. Look up or down, yeah world is still there so you are definitely not blind to the world while wearing it but if you watch straight ahead, your not gonna see the world either. It's some sweet tech and I'm quite happy with it even though the player I bought for it has much to be desired. Even played some MP4 VR files through it from my PC seeing how my mobile player is crap. Flawless 3D, even better than the movies. Question is can I find a movie for the Glyph format? LOL. Don't really care as it good for good old fashion 2D movies too! Like the Fujifilm camera, this is some awesome tech going cheap because its going under but the quality is built in. You can tell the developers went the extra mile, just the tech was too expensive for the average consumer for the time it was released. I wouldn't be surprised if this tech comes back cheaper seeing how the tech to make it is also getting cheaper. Maybe this time there won't be a launched too soon belly up as the tech was too expensive for those of us that don't have that kind of EXTRA cash to throw at it. But can tell I got a jewel of a camera and Glyph? Not bad either.
@EspenFrafalne
@EspenFrafalne 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesloll4601 Those video glasses i saw were way too big for my needs. I like ultralight camping, and so far the Vision 800 is still the best im aware of for my needs. I got some older ones of similar size and weight, which has about 2 hours battery capacity, but the image quality is really low... Im not very picky when im out camping though, and they are "ok" for watching an old movie or some episodes of "Married with Children". Will keep looking for more compact ones though.
@bobroch1107
@bobroch1107 2 жыл бұрын
Your device is very damaged. Mine is like new. Not a single scratch.
@clubx1000
@clubx1000 10 ай бұрын
stero photo maker 5 m 30s
@clubx1000
@clubx1000 10 ай бұрын
23y
@chansam2675
@chansam2675 7 ай бұрын
DON'T BUY. You will be very frustrated to take photo under sunlight with this model due to reflection. Preferable to get two pre-owned cameras and link them together, cheaper and better
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