just remember that most people taking these polls don't have 70% of these units built

Bagel, I and I believe many people watching your video would love to see your personal tier lists for this units. As an experienced player, you have a good understanding of many units especially since you've gone out of your way to build wacky comps.

I hope you can do a nat 5 one as well! These videos have been great for beginners but also people like me that are coming back after years wanting to know what’s good!

Since Bagel made us take time for the Poll, im all in for a Petition that he uses a Team composing of D-F tier Units in RTA or Arena.

My daughter just started playing and needs this list thank you 🙂

It seems water jack o lantern is super underrated. His whole kit is useful. Back to back revenge/buff steal/heal is hilarious to watch counter feng yan, woosa, and laika teams.

Just wanted to share after watching your videos for forever and playing this game for 9 years (on and off) I got my first LD 5 today - Lydia (dark polar queen). I was watching yesterdays summons and got lucky so thank you for all you do Jubi and to the rest of you veterans with no LD 5 I wish you luck!

Very informative - and very depressing. ;) I'm just comparing it to my monster list and going "... no... no... no, no... okay, that one I have... no, no, no... ... " Better luck in a few months. XD

You should make a mention on the poll in your most recent video. I usually watch on the PC and sometimes the community posts don't show up normally, so I miss most of them even though I'd love to contribute. And we can see the submissions are not as prevalent. Responses will go up if you mention the poll on your vid =)

How can Lushen be any less than S when most defenses are designed not to be lushened?

JB, Thank you sir. You must have super hearing I was just chanting 2023 Nat 4 list this week and here we are in the weekend with one of your awesome tier list vids.

14:52 He really wants his dark robo untouched it’s his baby😂. Dark Robo is strong in everything siege, arena, rta, lab, and Toa he doesn’t want him getting a nerf, GASLIGHTING US. (I would’ve done the same lol)

Light robo slaps with lushen on gwo and arena offense on hp/cd/hp his recent buff made it really good check it out

I'm surprised to see Xiao Lin ranked so mid, she is so useful everywhere (especially rifts, at least back in the day). I'm still working on kro after tricaru tho...

KZfaq master jubi... keep up the good work bud. You can also take vacation, we won't mind losing you for a week or two!

Some points I wanted to share while watching: Jojo the fire bomber deserves to be in F. The problem with bombers is you can only have so many before you max out your team. This wasn't as much of a problem, due to their only being him, and two of the kobold bombers with bombs as normal element 4 stars, but he was still the worst. if you needed 3 bombers, for toa hard, then you could use him. Now that his brother has bombs, and there have been multiple 5 star families to get bombs, he will not be used over something else. Kunite the fire gargoyle is actually very useful to those starting to build towards tricaru, but missing some stats. You can build him with determination runes and make him the fastest, and he will not be teamed up with, so wont steal the icarus skill cooldowns. Wouldnt say he is anywhere above C tier tho, he is an aweful unit. Jarret the wind poison master is much worse than Mellia. He seems similar in that he does dots, but it isn't a passive, and his first skill is just a stun. Also, his third skill, an aoe 3 hit 80% 2 turn dot is ok, but mellia has a shorter cooldown on her aoe. Mellias is also a att bar reduce and spead break, whereas Jarrets is a stun.

I think what really bumps up Ninjas is their busted speed leads, and Garo/Susano just have great kits in general.

Songseol is great. I use her in non rta pvp and she shuts down all def that relies on buffs. No woosa, no riley, no khmun, no stacks for odin, etc etc. It's great. And fire horus on destroy is pretty effective at shutting down defs relying on passives because he simple doesnt die, Water anubis sneezes and perna disappears. I rarely use garo because most things are on violent or everything has multi hit skills. He can kill and stunn effectively but he simply doesn't survive against most things

Big fan. I watch most of your videos. Every now and then, you are brainstorming content, and tier lists are a superb idea. You should do a series of just tier lists. Examples: 4 🌟 Siege, 4 🌟 RTA, 4 🌟 Arena, and last, but not least, 4 🌟 overall tier list. That gives you four videos of at least 15 to 20 minutes each. Be thorough. Then, you can do another four videos on 5 🌟 units. You might think we don't appreciate your expertise, but we do. Please consider doing these eight videos and thanks for all the content and entertainment you provide.

THANK YOU. Love seeing new tier lists. I have to say Garo is probly a SS unit. I almost never lose with my Garo fire twin teams both offense and defense. I use this team in area and again almost never lose. I built three teams and they plow through the 4 star towers. I know you knock Garo but he is amazing.

My fire ninja has runes on it strictly for the akorma level in ToA(H) ha! I was so happy when I found out about that strat. It was the only level holding me back from finishing TOA for the longest time

Thank you for this, been playing a few years now and I keep randomly building 4* in the hope they are good. I now have some guidance

tbh i would really love to get the wind choco knight because of his s3 which is very similar to megan s3 but with crit buff instead of def buff

Damn this was actually very helpful, thanks bagel!

Why are tier list so satisfying 😂❤

You mentioned water lich and water hypno meow as very underrated. Can you give an example of who you paired them with and what siege defense you attack with them?

I'm excited to see you utilize some samurai but that supreme skywolf nerve ouch.

9:20 I do love my guarantied conditional turns.

This was really useful! Thanks

I think chasun fell off pretty hard when people figured out Fran, Loren, kro was good for guild wars/siege

Would love an updated list with new nat 4s and balance patches

Yeah I didnt even know the community thing existed until I saw something randomly on my phone years after it came out. KZfaq shoved shorts in my face but kept actual interaction hidden like gold

Fire speed leads rank high because one gives enough speed for lower runed players to compete in guild offense using fire twins for example, and the other is a full-on tank with a regular shield and general speed lead. I have a few years of play time under my belt and only just this week pulled my first 5* speed lead.... water angels.... yay? :/

The thing about Molly is just not the glance and strip, it is that she also provides a 20% healing every turn, with a violent proc is basically half of the hp, and a shield every 2 turns... is so much if u put all this 4 support action together and even more if u bring another healer/support...

i personally love tier lists, best thing to watch while eating

Wind sam's crazy now, ya didn't have to do him so dirty man. Has the same skill as sekhmet but instead of reducing the cd of his own skills, he violent procs... And he does it alot, cuz you can go s3 proc sword of the supreme sky wolf, into s2 into proc passive, into s1 proc passive, into s2 proc passive back to s3 again. Crazy stuff.

Love the content. My favorite is when you disagree and give us your take why

Light gargoyle could pair well with the new free light Altair 🤔 provokes for days to stack dmg on Altair and garg can increase enemy cooldowns past max cooldown

... 😄 Fuco was my first 6 star. Still my rep, he pulls every stage solo for leveling. I know, I'm weird.

... Fuco was my first 6 star and still my rep for all pve level grinding. He has 2 stages that can take him out through rng (my shit resistance) I guess the time for him to pull is more than anyone will take.

dark cockie its so crazy, i use him in cleave, and never, NEVER fail deff break, so OP

I can't believe I forgot about Garo vs Akroma I just beat that level after like 30 tries of other things I thought would work. I could have just got the Chloe down and then auto ed argh.

It's nice to know I have 8/9 of the triple sss units at 6* already.... All but that Kinki!

Sweet vid! Is there any way we can split up the tier list into pvp and pve for newer players?

Dammit I came back after like 4 years and I have that F tier Lich built. LOL. Good video

I agree with you on most things except the dark robo bagel, that thing is hella strong SSS tier in my book.

Which one is better to awaken Fire magic knight or Water magic knight? These 2 are the only high tier in this list that I have.

Kamiya(Dark nine tails) is a great counter for all the annoying counter-attackers. S2 sleeps an enemy without attacking so it doesn't proc counterattack passives. S3 is huge damage and irresistable stun on crit. I've been using her to deal with things like douglas, verde, water hbc and wind monkey. I would put her in S tier at minimum. Too bad Special League is disqualifying LDs. Back to storage she goes.

Can you go over all your accounts would love an overview to see them

I have both Briand and Fire Gargoyle built. Use both. They aren't as bad as people make them out to be. They aren't super high tier units but they are definitely usable.

Probably wont be seen, but I would value your ranking on these mons. Perhaps if you also took the poll but your vote weighed more but not majority. Some way we can also get your thoughts.

Ty very much bagel but plz say that this a pvp mainly list 😉 I kno community list but unless stated yur lists have mainly been pve 🖤🖤. Not a huge deal I just was lil confused. No mention of any dungeons etc.😢. Ty for the great vid as always ✌🏿

Water lich is also usable in rta. Mine has a nice win rate just can't force pick him

I guess some people use garo in siege (garo raoq verde - garo khali draco) not in high level but is usable sometimes

I did start the survey, didn't even get through fire, thinking how long this survey would take and ended by clearing what I had done. It will take less time for me to view Bagel's result vid than my participation.

Could u try a siege combo where u use einheri , psamathe and light robo where the light robo is the fastest followed by psa and then einheri.

Pls make a poll and change the list on your terms so it makes sense to me to watch it :D

bagle alwase says molly isn't that good. she's just good if you don't have her.. then he proceeds to use her in almost every video XD

With the 9th anniversary event now, I have no idea who are the good and bad champions. Are you going to do a nat 5 one also?

I was about to build wind blade dancer just cause spd based atk+ def ignore

Aarang used to be a Premium GB10 Unit. could almost solo nuke the Giant with a good damage set. Now she has become completely useless because for what ever reason C2U also nerfed these girls, when they were already on the brink of existence. But I am surprised to see the Wind Madeleine Cookie that low. Because on a decent set, he can deal some damage himself too and he gives not too bad buffs + gauge either. okay 15% gauge is low, compared to other units, but he is not a bad unit, I think he deserves a little bit more credit than C.. Dark Gargoyle and Phantomthief are btw REALLY good in 4* Special League!

More realistic: SSS Tier:Tablo,Liu Mei. SS:Lushen,Dark Robo,Iliana,Iris. S: Dark Sniper,Kaki,Dark Trevor,Light Trevor. Those at least needed to be changed. People are smoking.

Kinda funny how I haven't touched this game in over 2 years and the OG units are still S-tier and there almost no new units above A-tier.

I suggest building a wind harg they’re definitely a higher B tier imo

watching this at 2am and the balance patch drops... lol

Fudge on Vio/Rev is busted imo. I mean, Vamp/Rev is good for him too, but it's beautiful when those debuffs hit lol. I rune him SPD/HP/HP with speed and accuracy in subs.

Balancing dev note is up just waiting for the vid 🤣

yes, rigel is pretty good, but the rune requirements are insanely high... never managed to rune him properly to do what hes supposed to do+ survive

Wind Eivor is great for giants. B is fine.

it's weird, I never see your community posts in feed of at subscriptions feed, it seems algorithms always dodges your posts, even when subscribed

Garo is used alot in low level siege so that makes sense

Surprised light chun li only SS. If you are C2 arena, she is instant G-1 as long as you have one decent swift set for eshir. Amazing in siege offense as well. Great in special league rta, got me G1 there. She's great for speed toa. Amazing farmer (few mons can farm hell on the entire map in under 25s, and faimon in 10s). So many uses, OP.

is there a tier list of PVE only, also a best lnd 5* starter tier list?

2:14 our poll 😂😅😂

I started 12 days ago and am now well progressed, thx for this. Was surprised to see Galleon SSS alone at the top? I noticed I have one lvl 1 in my vault, is he worth building? For what content?

We Need a Fire Joker Video Bagel!!!

I guess my Gin works because I would put him up there with some of the best LD 4’s. Now that I have Pontos, just wait for 20 star special league. Edit: I’m also not that high on dark robo. I don’t think mine works so it balances out I guess.

Wind robo being SSS and wind jack o being A really shows how RTA skewed these tier lists tend to be. Windy is arguably more influential in G3 siege than Robo is in RTA

I aint gonna lie, Jojo is absolutely F tier. He's usable if you want a horrendously gimped bomber . His bombs do squat, his S1 is eh, and he doesn't bring dots, he brings a SINGULAR DOT on his S3. His whole S3 is just a single AoE dot and it's on 4 turns of cooldown. He's less bomber and more delayed stun unit with a 4 turn cooldown to apply 1 dot.

Basically anything are and above A are good, B tier is like "I mean he/she does ____ but still..." and below are mostly unusable. There is some exceptions but C tier is niche units and D and below are dogsheet

Hard disagree with the placement of Sige. Even before the buff he was a top tier cleave unit, and amazing in Light Beast

So I pulled a Sabrina (water boomerang girl) and the wind one, should I build them? Thanks

need an updated tier list

jojo needs def scaling bombs.. he's a defense unit for some reason so make him scale off defense

oh jeeeeeez as a siege player it hurts my eye😐 only NPCs voted in the poll or what?

Im here for the fact that you dont know that the nisha strip is 100% chance to happen, it does not fail and I wonder why people arent talking about her more

Magic dice water very good bro

When I say his name I call him Verde-Squeal...:D

Molly going from SSS to D tier in one patch lol.

Why dark isabella B tier ? im low level but my isabelle can deal high damage to carry me a lot of content.

nah dark robo is definitely triple S over martina, he's more useful than she is in most content and he's a top 10 monster in RTA. but he will probably be nerfed in this BP or the one after.

Bagel asks for community tier list, then spends 19 mins telling you why you are wrong

For the people who voted Lanett C tier... I have some questions.

so, who should i take for dragon and giant b10? I have Alicia,verad,karnal,amelia and dominic

Whats does nat-4 mean

I vote for more polls!

can you do an updated one? :D

Abegail is an S tier! Who are these people voting? 😭😂😂😂😂

Wind dice magicians deserved better!

7:46 probably because melia is farmable? Idk 😐