Full Review and Testing of the Atomstack, A20 Pro Laser Cutter Engraver. It Passed the testing!

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@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

The only problems I had with this laser was the wire management! Once I add the 1/4" Split Wire Loom Tubing to control them, this will be a perfect machine! The air assist was just as good as the Atzer AA. Click on Show More for links!

@-vermin- Жыл бұрын

There are a lot of people adding drag chains on your forum (including me)! But yeah, it should have come standard.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Agreed 💯

@cathygrant6838 Жыл бұрын

Every video has something helpful! You have great teaching skills. Thank you for taking the time to help all of us newbies.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I really appreciate the support! 👍

@stevesmith6946 Жыл бұрын

That is what I have been looking for, a good air assist. Thanks for another great video.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

This one is perfect Steve at 30lpm! I linked the Atzer below because it is basically the same and the same lpm, but much quieter.

@swishair Жыл бұрын

Another great video Rich, I'm really looking forward to the battle of the 20 watts video to see where my xTool 20 comes in. I really look forward to all your videos. The test runs are really teaching me about the machine and all the different materials I use. Thanks again,

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I really appreciate the comments John!👍 The Battle is going to be fun!

@PhilippinesDarrellCheeks Жыл бұрын

Hi Rich, looking forward to the battle of the 20 watts video. Thanks for the review. I totally agree about the cables, I have the X20 pro and have the same problem. Merry Christmas to you and the family from the Philippines!

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Same to you! Wife is leaving for the PI in 4 weeks.

@GezginAileMedya 11 ай бұрын

It was a super review, exactly the video I was looking for, you are really successful, congratulations

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy 11 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot!

@hefalump56 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Rich, another interesting review.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@cryptofrontier8370 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your time

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that, *thanks!*

@LKMKully Жыл бұрын

Great videos! Geat info! Keep up the great work! Best in 2023!

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Will do!

@jameseler2898 Жыл бұрын

Louisa I solved the problem with wire management by over tie wrapping (plastic tie wraps can squeeze the air hose) the Gantry cables and air hose and placing the machine close enough to the table's edge so that the Y cables droop down out of the way. I did have a problem with erratic engrave till I found the gantry belt left loose from the factory tightened it and now it works perfect. I got the two trees 500 X 500 Honey comb bed that was too large it was hit by the gantry used shims to raise the engraver to clear the bed. I did enjoy wealth of knowledge you gave, Thank you

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Glad you got it solved!

@arinka62 Жыл бұрын

Half a year ago I upgraded from an A5 with the M50 laser to this one and I am realy very happy with it. I allready saved a lot of wood because of the limit switches. It is realy easy to continue cutting after you made a misstake and stopped the laser. Just zero the machine and it is spot on again after restarting. I use this laser untill max 60% because I had the impression that my M50 was loosing a lot of power because of allways running at 100%. In the past half year I did not mention any power loss on this laser. The cable management I resolved by attaching the cables to my enclosure and had no issue with it till now. Most of my work is 4mm oak, which I cut with 300 speed and 50% power in 1 pass.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Awesome Arno! Glad to hear you're happy with it!

@marvinw. Жыл бұрын

Great informative video! Thanks!

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Thank you Marvin!

@waltermiraglia8134 Жыл бұрын

Great review. I missed Black Friday (dragging my feet) on choosing one. Now just waiting for boxing day to buy :) Cheers and thanks for the information. very helpful. :)

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

My pleasure Walter!

@Vintauri Жыл бұрын

Another great review Rich! I agree that the air assist on this unit is one of the better ones I've had come with a laser. I really wish they used silicone wire on these machines. It would make cable management so much easier if those wires were a bit more flexible.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

The wire loom will take care of it. I just can't find my roll right now! 🤪

@sevenwindsflutes Жыл бұрын

I purchased an A20 from Amazon, in July, it is my first laser. I agree with everything you have presented. I also bought the extension bed from them directly which gives me an awesome 450mmX900mm work area. I know it took you 1/2 hr. to assemble. It took me 1 1/2 hrs. Documentation was extremely poor. The various youtube videos saved me. The cable with the extension bed was a nightmare so I purchased a drag chain for the y axis. Mine must be an older version with a weaker air pump, it is cylindrical rather than square. The head would not slide up and down easily and needed some filing to get rid of a couple of burrs. I had alot of difficulty with consistent cutting. If I was cutting several pieces in one run some of them would cut clean others would not. I went back and forth with factory support, very annoying since it take 24 hrs to get a reply. Finally they said I needed to return the head to the store, which I think is also in china. Then there was a one week Chinese holiday and finally they got around to agreeing to replace the head. The new head works great. The bottom line is it took 5-6 weeks to resolve the problem. The good sign is they seem to be a company willing to stand behind their product. If you need to elevate it to use a roller I had to shorten the lockdown screw for the head because periodically it would not home because the screw would hit the x axis rail. It has some serious power. I have had good luck cutting 3/4 inch thick pine. It will almost do it in one pass but catches fire. So finally I got smart and use 4-6 passes at 150/95. A few weeks later, amazon had the newer model with the larger air pump and the remote hand screen device that really is not needed. I use lightburn, the software, and the wifi app are worthless for any serious work. Where I live I have to have wifi for my phone to work. So if I was connected to the laser, my phone had to be disconnected. I have an air compressor in my shop with a regulator. I run the air line from the regulator to a gas regulator to easily control a slower air flow. It works great. Down side is the compressor noise.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Wow! Thank you so much! I appreciate the input! Yeah, the old air assist pumps are horrible! Sorry you had so many problems!

@magnusltd Жыл бұрын

Great review Rich! I have the AS S20Pro and have had similar results in cutting & engraving. It does burn hot though, requiring frequent laser head cleaning. I've just received the extension package for it because I want to do some longer engravings. But, I'd still love to win this. Thanks for all your help!

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Same machine Bill, different color👍 If you keep the air assist on low during engraving it'll keep the lens clean.

@davidphan70 5 ай бұрын

I've watched 10 videos and yours is the best. The cable management critique is candid and helpful. I'm going to use your ground wire idea. Candid recommendation to not place the app device covering the vent. Smart. There is an add-on where you can place the cabling into a wheel-chain covering that I might consider buying. Can you demo a project where I want to create a plaque that has a piano shape cut-out. My wife is a piano teacher and she wants to build a custom plaque that has her name, student name, year of recital. It's going to stand up vertical by sitting in a groove cut on the base board. thank you ahead of time. Your sample cuts/engravings shows your expertise in the laser craft. I learned so much. I plan on combining my hobby with kumiko projects and laser engraving when I make my kumiko panels.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy 5 ай бұрын

I can't take specific requests David, but if you watch the Lightburn College playlist, you'll be sure to learn how to do anything in Lightburn by the time you get to the last video!

@mariajohnston2147 Жыл бұрын

Great easy to follow

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Glad you think so Maria!

@chato6210 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for posting the video 👍 🍺

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Chato!

@jimshackelford4267 Жыл бұрын

Well I did ask Santa for one of these, I would be a good addition to my group. Thanks Rick for the demo

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

There's still time for a chance at winning one Jim - 8 more days! lahobbyguy.com/a20p

@bryankerr5191 11 ай бұрын

I have the atomstack a20 and I put the track system on mine as well as 3d printed some better legs with add on extensions for legs. much better than what comes with the machine

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy 11 ай бұрын

Awesome! 👍 Thanks for watching!

@StumblingBumblingIdiot Жыл бұрын

Another great video! That air assist really does seem nice and its only $100 at the big A right now cause they have a $30 coupon! I never thought about using that split wire loom tubing stuff to fix the cable problems. My Creality Falcon 10w has the same problem with that cable on the side dragging around and it will mess up the burn/cut if it gets against something. I was going to post about it in the forums but no I don't have to LOL

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the wire loom is necessary on a lot of machines! I wish they would just use it at the factory! What could it cost in China to outfit one of these machines? Twenty cents?

@TheAndrian463 Жыл бұрын

Nice review again. A drag chain for the wiring should be standard these days on the newest diode laser engraver/cutter; I suspect the next new feature in 2023 for these machines will be a motorised z axis.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't that be nice! I had no trouble focusing this one. Nice big knob in the front.

@rhoniandjeff7453 Жыл бұрын

Another very thorough review! Thank you for these and the teaching videos that you do. I always look for them. God Bless. I can't wait to get a 20 watt lazer for the cutting power. I have the first xtool D1 model 10 watt. It has great detail but is not good for cutting.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Awesome! I have a "Battle of the 20W Lasers" video coming in January!

@rustyp21 Жыл бұрын

Great video Rich (as usual)! The Battle of the 20s sounds awesome! Will you be testing the Atomstack X20 Pro?

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

The A20 Pro David... same thing.

@carlhoward5469 Жыл бұрын

Drag chains are awesome.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Yes they are!

@lonniedupont Жыл бұрын

Excellent 👍👍👍👍👍

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

👉🤪👈

@gilbertpfaffsr1822 Жыл бұрын

I 3d printed a drag chain for my S20 Pro for both x and y axis.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

I was going to, but I have had trouble with them in the past not printing right.

@GrayDragon Жыл бұрын

Good Video 👍, you should know that Atomstack has now a new modell, the Atomstack x30 Pro with a optical laser power of 33 Watt .

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Yes, I know. They're supposed to be sending me one Markus.

@rical1 Жыл бұрын

Rich, great review! I am new to lasers and just got the X20 pro. I have not even been close to the proper power/speed settings. I’ve been trying to tweak the settings from the other libraries. Will you be adding an A20/X20 materials library to the forum?

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Yes Robert, but not for a while with the holidays coming! Use the library for the Atezr 20W.

@Muscle_81 11 ай бұрын

Good video and also very well explained only one thing is missing !!! PLEASE WHERE do you get such material tests from??? You linked a million things but not them ;(

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy 11 ай бұрын

On my free forum in the members only section. Links below in the description.

@cathygrant6838 Жыл бұрын

Day 2 of commenting , and giving myself a better chance of winning the Dec. Raffle. 🤗 Always helpful videos Rich!

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Commenting doesn't increase your chances of winning Cathy! You have to go to the raffle page and enter!

@merrillalbury8214 Жыл бұрын

Looking forward to battle of the 20 watts.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Me too Merrill!

@TPAs-Adventures Жыл бұрын

Great video. I am a newbie and have this unit. I am still getting some black char on my cuts. Curious how high or low you set the air assist? I think I may be going to slow also.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

The air was at 100% for cutting Todd.

@burtgraham3689 Жыл бұрын

Good video Rich. I just bought a Atomstack 20 130 W. laser. What is your best video that you have done using Lightburn. Im an old guy and need a lot of help as I dont understand a lot of the commands in lightburn and knowing where to put the wood on the base so it gets set up for printing. Any help you can give is greatly appreciated.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

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@Ackwel Жыл бұрын

the real 0/0 is 0/0 @ 3:32 -there are little arrows pointing to that scale on the x/y axis, the markings are usefull

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

I know what you mean, the metal arrows inside the frames. Mine are off.

@shawnblanton1972 Жыл бұрын

On the Atomstack A20 Pro, do you have the settings to cut through 3/16 cork board? I have tried several settings and have not been successful to cut through.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

No, but you can run a Lightburn material test to find out.

@markbigham6653 7 ай бұрын

Do you know what the psi is for that pump when on full blast?

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy 7 ай бұрын

No, they don't list psi.

@ziyaadluckan6976 10 ай бұрын

I tried cutting 6mm ply wood and i could only cut right through with 3 passes, on 100% and 200 speed. What am i doing wrong?

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy 10 ай бұрын

Likely a focus issue. Search my channel for the word RAMP. If you run a ramp test, you'll find the perfect focus.

@MrJimpurvis Жыл бұрын

Can someone help I received my new A20 a week ago upgraded from my A10 pro the problem is every engraving is slightly cut off on the bottom line, also when I run the material test in lightburn it barely cut through 3 mm plywood thanks in advance for your help

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Have you contacted Atomstack? It's hard to diagnose a problem in a YT comment. Maybe your focus if wrong.

@gregengleman1861 Жыл бұрын

Hi Rich I applied your coupon for the monport k-40 package laser/lightburn/chiller and it said it couldn't be used?

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

The coupon code can't be used with accessories Greg. They said laser machines only. You have to make 2 orders to use the coupon.

@BLUEMOONENTERPRISES 5 ай бұрын

Will you be reviewing the Atomstack A24 Pro with enclosure and honeycomb bed?

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy 5 ай бұрын

I don't have one, so no, not at this time.

@Ryan82288 Жыл бұрын

Idk if you’ve made a video or chatted about this but it be cool to know what diode lasers don’t need to be screwed in place. My Ortur lmp2 has to be unless I run it slower or it skids back and forth. I’ve heard the lm3 from Ortur doesn’t need to be bolted down. Maybe I’m just lazy but I like quick setups for customers and screwing it down takes a bit.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

I use nano gel stickers to hold things in place Ryan. amzn.to/3uTwzVn

@SodBustersMetalDetecting Жыл бұрын

Have you reviewed the atomstack X7 Pro?

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

No I haven't.

@edwardsola4564 Жыл бұрын

Great video, subscribed to your channel because of it! So I have a CNC machine that I added a 7w laser to (Sienci Brand). Right off the start it's not enough to do what I really want to do....CUT. Even with 3mm ply I'm having tremendous troubles cutting with it. Did a search and found your video on this Atomstack x20! My biggest question is that the air assist they have on their website is 15-30 L/min. Will that be enough to cut cleanly up to 1/4" ply in 1-2 passes? For the price listed on their website it seems like a great deal, in comparison to what I have now. Thank you for your help and again, great video.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Yes Edward. AA is only needed to clear the debris from the laser path.

@edwardsola4564 Жыл бұрын

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy thank you. The unit I have has AA but not a forced air one. Just an attached fan. That might be why I’m having issues. Thank you.

@ryan-dewitt Жыл бұрын

My a20 doesn't seem to making enough power? Is there a secret setting in firmware? My A20 laser is cutting but I'm not getting your results, it's like some of the lasers aren't on. it take 3mm/s at 100 2 passes to cut 1/8" ply.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Check the Device Settings and make sure your S-value max is set to 1000.

@Jerry-Mesa Жыл бұрын

Definitely a laser I’d like to get. Maybe they’ll see your review and fix there wire management.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

They'll see it, but I doubt they'll change it. It would be nice...

@Jerry-Mesa Жыл бұрын

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy I’ll wait for your 20W face off in January. lol

@send-golf 5 ай бұрын

No one I have found, has the original sd card files, or a video about what exactly is on them, anywhere. Mine is missing (before I can even test it). A video, with a link to that file, might do well. Just a thought.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy 5 ай бұрын

Contact Atomstack. I'm sure they'll share the files with you.

@rsnsol2490 Жыл бұрын

hello Rich, thankyou for the review. I own an x20pro. I found through testing and with the preview time that something was not quite right once you get above 6000 mm/min. I wrote atomstack about this as I noticed in the max speed settings that they are capped at 6000. they replied that the machine can go to 12000 but it is not recommended which seemed strange since they advertise it as capable of 12000mm/min. did you notice this or have to change the settings to get 12000? or do they consider it 6000 per axis which would be 12000 if x and y are moving simultaneously

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

The A20 came set at 12,000 mm/min.

@rsnsol2490 Жыл бұрын

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy interesting. Thankyou

@haroldtibbetts Жыл бұрын

Looks like it is a good laser

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

I think so Harold!

@pjdegroot1 Жыл бұрын

OK, I'm a newbie. What is LAF? I was able to get rotary at Newegg for $65.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Line after fill.

@KeithBurtis Жыл бұрын

I have tge A5 pro and really like it for engraving. Not so much for cutting. Been eyeballing.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Keith! Go for it!

@daxslevira233 Жыл бұрын

Can you tell how we can sign up with you for a lesson on lightburn

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

I'm taking a sabbatical from the remote sessions right now Dax.

@travisdurham7736 Жыл бұрын

I purchased this model, and cannot get it to cut through 6mm plywood. I’m running lightburn 10mm min 100 percent power and still no through cut. Any idea what I could be doing wrong?

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Yup, you don't have it focused properly or the lens is dirty. This laser blasts through 6mm wood at 360 mm/min.

@travisdurham7736 Жыл бұрын

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy I am using the included tool to focus, should I be focusing it differently? I just pulled it out of the box so I doubt the lense is dirty

@travisdurham7736 Жыл бұрын

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy figured it out. My s value in lightburn was at 225 I changed it to 1000 and now it’s blasting through it with no problem

@charlesholcomb3791 Жыл бұрын

Rich, the scale on the left should be zero at the center of the gantry not the laser head. But it is still not close to being correct and you can move the zero switches, to adjust as needed anyway.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

It's off by a mile Charles, however you measure it. 0/0 is where the laser outputs the beam, which is where I measured to.

@charlesholcomb3791 Жыл бұрын

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy you're right and I am not sure what you would use it for anyway. I have the A10 and was never sure why you would use those anyway. Have the laser make a grid and use the grid. That was a good review though. Your shootout will be interesting and most likely me what it use to see my upgrade path will be. Thanks again.

@frankligas2249 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. If you find an affiliate link to a crack ruler on Amazon I will buy it.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

I do, but they're not cheap! amzn.to/3K1Mk4m

@tylersatterfield7309 Жыл бұрын

is the atom stack a20 and the atezr p20 the same machine they look almost identical

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

No Tyler, not even close.

@tylersatterfield7309 Жыл бұрын

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy i purchased the p20 after your review and then later noticed so many simalarities in the gantry, display, head etc a comparison of the two and how they differ and relate would be awesome!

@MichaelKlein-je4wc Жыл бұрын

I have the x20 and I'm not getting near the cutting results your getting at 300 it will only cut through baltic birch ply 3mm at 100% power. what am I doing wrong.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Are you in mm/min or mm/sec? I'm in mm/min. If you are, then it's either a focus issue or a dirty lens.

@MichaelKlein-je4wc Жыл бұрын

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy no I'm in mm/min. I'll clean the lens again. I am using the included spacer for focus.

@hefalump56 Жыл бұрын

@@MichaelKlein-je4wc you probably need to perform a focus ramp test. I suspect your focus block doesn't match your focal point. Do you drop the focus point half way into your workpiece? For example, 1.5mm below the surface of your 3mm ply. Are you using air assist when cutting?

@MichaelKlein-je4wc Жыл бұрын

@@hefalump56 I'm not sure about the focus and yes I use the air assist.

@nerdsph1 Жыл бұрын

Machine zero and Saved positions: I have a 'laser start position' set at 0,67 corresponding with 0,0 on the scale. Machine zero position is 0 on the x but due to it smacks hard on the Y end stop it will fluctuate and get an Y zero-ish position. When you have the extension upgrade you can easily compensate the 67mm on the Y axis and bring the Y max to 917mm. Anyhow I keep it at 867mm because I precut wood panels to 410mm and 800mm. (For the Imperialists...get a life 😛)

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

With any mod, you usually have to have a workaround or two...

@dickwaters7950 7 ай бұрын

Good video, enjoyed watching. I just purchased the A20 Pro and from what I see I like it so far. Except, I am having problems with framing my projects. I had a Ortur 2 and used lightburn for my artwork. With this laser I don't see a fire button and or I'm not sure how to frame. I don't seem to understand how to read the laser thru the window on the laser. I like your video I used lightburn to test framing function. Would you please recommend a video that will help me with framing?🙄

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy 7 ай бұрын

Edit --> Device Settings, turn on Enable Laser fire button, and Laser on when framing. Set the power to 1%. This video should help with framing: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7Nlp5Zo3anaZZs.html

@malcolmturton9779 Жыл бұрын

Such a shame about the cable management on this, having said that it's not the only guilty diode laser in that respect. My old Ortur LM2 is a decent machine but has the same issue, I use an elastic "bungee" cord to suspend my x axis and air tube which works ok but the y axis often gets trapped when the machine is homing.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

The wire loom is the solution Malcolm.

@rudycast81 Жыл бұрын

Just going to comment on your initial start of the review... Your observation of the markings on the x and y are incorrect... If you look under the left pulley between the 2 wheels, you will see there is a pointer indicating the measuring of where you're laser is in relation to the software 0,0 would be the bottom left, and that's where the laser sits when it hits the homing sensor. It is poorly visible but it is correct when homed to zero. Now if you're argument is that you're aligning the physical laser to the number zero then yes the markings AND the pointer should be moved to reflect this.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

The idea of the 0/0 position and the measurements on the rails (in my mind) is that it should mimic the software work grid. So if I send my laser to 0/0 and fire it, it should mark at 0/0 Rudy. I can't imagine what else you could use the measurements for.

@Shane-ce9fm Жыл бұрын

Atezr will win the showdown because he's affiliated with Atezr. His photo is even on their website. I'd like to see some non biased reviews.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Seriously Shane? I'm not affiliated with Atezr, I just have a discount code from them and a affiliate *link,* just like all of the other lasers I review, and all the other KZfaqrs review. And my videos are on all of the manufacturer websites who I do reviews for; that's how it works. My videos are probably the only ones you'll find that have no fluff and no bias! Oh, and by the way, I will NOT be choosing a winner of the showdown! You will get to decide! The video will be a pure comparison of engraving and cutting the *exact same files.*

@Shane-ce9fm Жыл бұрын

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy If that's the case then I stand corrected and I look forward to the showdown. I'm ready to pull the trigger on one of the 20w lasers and I'm leaning towards the Atomstack because of the bed extension option. I may wait for your comparison video before I decide. Also, thanks for the clarification regarding whether or not you're affiliated with Atezr.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Um... you may want to wait Shane! The first 36W laser is on the way from Atezr and Atomstack has one in development! The 20W battle will be Comgrow vs xTool vs Atomstack vs Atezr. But I also see a battle of the 36W on the way!

@jackhelm9852 Жыл бұрын

Warning, Have used this machine for 6 months and it is showing all the signs of being worthless. Air Assist broke and no longer puts out air even though it runs. Lens cover has burn marks on it and I can't get replacements for them because they are out of stock and have been told it will be months until I can get them. Now the laser will not even cut through 3mm Baltic Birch ply even at 100mm/m and 100%. Can't get any help from support even though it is well within the warranty period. Deal with this company at your own risk. They are without integrity. Had an Ortur before this and when I had issues, they were great about reaching out and helping me out. No such luck with this company. Really regret wasting my money on it.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear this. Try cleaning your lens; that's probably why it isn't cutting.

@jackhelm9852 Жыл бұрын

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy I have tried this, the problem is likely the lens but it is because it is pitted and needs to be replaced. One of the Atomstack resellers actually sells them in packs of three but have been told it will be a month before they get them in stock and then a slow boat from China (literally) to get here. Thinking about switching to Comgrow. It seems like several folks I follow (you included) use their products pretty heavily. Have you ever had to deal with their support? What are they like? I am willing to take a chance on a product if I know support is decent.

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Жыл бұрын

The way a company supports me and and end user can be vastly different Jack. I can tell you that when it comes to issues, I have not heard a single complaint about either Comgrow or Ortur on tech support.