Hey thanks I appreciate it. I’ll let him know. He did say he will not take that power wagon down black bear again. Just a little too wide for that long stretch of switch back after the steps. Really hard in that thing to do that without a spotter in the passenger seat. Thanks for watching. I appreciate it greatly.!

@@outlaw9232 yeah, I'm a beginner. Recently I wa had to pass a 4runner on a shelf road only maybe a couple feet wider than black bear... I had to climb up on a wall and that guy was almost on the cliff. My gut told me that there was no way i was making it. But internally, I said "f*** you" to my gut, and with less than half a foot of space, i made it. Then a couple minutes later a jeep on an even narrower section. His tires were halfway on the cliff. At closest, we were 2 inches from hitting. It was also bad on the roof since i was on the wall at a really steep angle, so the rooves were almost touching. but both of us managed to move through that section. Any sane person in those two situations would know that they would not have made it, but I just threw my instincts out the window. What sucks most is that i didn't get any footage.

@@FullsendTravels oh man, I love that story! You know you will run into situations like that on the trail sometimes so you just take your time and inch your way through it, it’s not a race. The more you wheel the more confident you’re going to get with your skills and your rig. Big plus is wheeling with people with more experience than you. They can help you and spot you and get you through these places. I really enjoy wheeling with people that don’t have a lot of experience. It’s fun for me to be able to help somebody on the trail.

@@outlaw9232 yeah... my dad has a ton of experience and he tought me some but I always like doing things "my own way"... lol. But back then, my dad was with me, but I had absolutely no spotter. At least the guy in the 4runner that i met had his golden retriever spot for him... 😅😅

@@FullsendTravels LOL golden retriever spotting for the driver now that’s funny. Maybe it should’ve been a donation? 🤣

Hahaha Now that’s pretty funny!

Forget the Winnebago, go full on Provost!

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Robin Williams pulled off something similar in the movie "RV"!

Hey thanks for watching! He will not run it again in that truck but had fun doing it. It was a tight fit. I was just down in Ouray last weekend and Black Bear Pass still wasn't open yet.

Thank you Glenn! Video never does the Trail justice. I had to edit this video down so it wasn’t too long because it took us a lot longer to get around that second switch back in my buddies Ram. I love this trail. I love the views, and I love ending in Telluride at brown dog pizza and then take Imogene pass back over to Ouray. Thanks for watching Glenn I really appreciate your comment. I’m working on my next video of the last trail. We did in Arizona. I hope you’re able to watch it.

JK southwest Thank you so much for watching! I really tried to cut the video shorter but just couldn’t with all the footage I have. I’d like to use drone footage if I could like you do on your channel.

That is awesome! Thank you so much for watching and the comment. I will let my buddy Ash and his power wagon know they have a fan!

OK that’s pretty funny! I have ridden tail of the dragon several times on my motorcycle and I can’t imagine somebody trying to go through there

It is a tight squeeze in some spots.

Hey thanks for watching! He had full confidence he could get that full sized Ram down Black Bear. It was a challenge but I believed in his skills and abilities. Thanks again for watching!

It is beautiful here and it would be awesome if you all were out here. You are a world traveler and have seen many places.

Colorado4x4 Thanks Geoff! Ash did very very well with that big truck on the trail. A little tight on the second switch back but we made it. We then ran Imogene pass after that. That was fun.

Thank you very much I appreciate that! Thank you for watching and I love the comments!

It was tight on that second switchback but he did it! Seeing that pedicab on the trail was a trip. I hope he got a good tip!

Hey Bryan thanks for watching! I wouldn’t recommend a power wagon again on blackbear pass. It was a little more sketchy than it looked in the video. My friend was really insistent on doing it so I wanted to be there to help spot for him. He does know how to drive that truck And impressed me.

Jim Kidd Thanks Jim! I agree about not adding music. I have in the past but I’d rather listen to the Jeep and the trail. Thanks for watching!!

It’s definitely worth it! Thanks for watching and the sub!

Outlaw 923 you’re welcome can’t wait to see watch all the vids

Thanks!! It was fun watching my buddy maneuver through some of that.

Yeah times and the trail have changed in the last 44 years. Thanks for watching, I do appreciate it!

Thanks for watching and the comment Broncotrail! It was an interesting day, and that is probably the only time my buddy is going to take his big ram truck down that trail. It took some work to get around that second switch back, but he did it and we did not hold anybody up behind us. I’ve run blackbear pass about six times in my Jeep now and love it.

Chris Kantock Thank you Chris! I’ll have to check out your walk around video!

Awesome to hear and thank you so much for watching I appreciate that a lot!! You won’t be sorry it’s a beautiful fun Trail.

LMAO! Now that would be a site! Thank you Dr. Emil for watching, I appreciate it!

Oh and I smashed my exhaust pipe flat on the bottom.

It’s a tight squeeze in something like that isn’t it! I’m not surprised about the air dam because there some places where you need more than stock clearance. I did Crystal Mill once in the fall to see the colors. I took some neighbors with me and ran wit no top or doors. It was awesome but we go past the mine out of the town of Marble. I have a video of that trip. I know the trail gets pretty narrow where you went. Nice job!! Thanks for watching!

Thanks for the sub and watching!! This is one of the narrowest shelf roads I’ve been on. It’s tight for my Jeep but my buddy wanted to run it in his Power Wagon! Crazy!

Thank you so much RF I appreciate that a lot!

True. I went over it in a two door Wrangler and had to back up a little only once on one of the switchbacks. The other hairpins were a one shot deal. I can't imagine doing the Steps and the Switchbacks in a beast like this Ram.

Thanks for watching Cheryl!

Thanks for watching! It took some time and thank goodness for rock rails. It’s tight in my 4door Wrangler!

Thanks for watching! Yea it was a bit of a job to get my buddies truck down those switchbacks but he was determined to do it. He said he won't do it again but still had fun. I just came back from Ouray a couple weeks ago and working on the next videos now!

LOL He drives semi trucks for a living so to him this wasn’t that bad. Got me and my Jeep it still is a tight fit but very doable if you just pay attention and take your time. Thanks for watching!

That is probably the best compliment I have ever received!! Thank you so much for watching and your comment. Scooter J 20wheel safe and hope to see you on the trail sometime!

It’s much easier in a smaller rig for sure! Thanks for watching!

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I think that’s a good call! Thanks for watching!

Wow that sounds pretty interesting. I’ve only been running it since 2016 and it still seems pretty narrow to me so I can’t imagine what it was like back then. Sometime I’d love to see some old video of it especially with an old Willys going down!

Thanks Dewey. My friend Ash was bound and determined to take his ram down Black Bear. He definitely has the skills and I’m impressedimpressed and what he did with that truck. It even has swaybar disconnects. The most difficult part was that second switch back.

@@outlaw9232 he did great!

I appreciate your comment and opinion for sure I really do. But for me when I run blackbear pass or most any other jeep trail to me it’s not a race it’s not about time. If I have to wait for somebody to get through an obstacle, I’ll do it. Especially on blackbear, look where you are, take a break and look around and enjoy the views again it’s not a race. I can tell you, my buddy won’t be taking his ram down blackbear pass again, but we didn’t hold anybody up on our run. We made sure of that. Thanks for watching and again I really do appreciate your comment and respect it.

Thanks Jeeping Mo! It’s a great trail where 95% is pretty easy but requires focus on the Steps and the switch backs. The views are amazing.

Thanks for the sub!!!

@@outlaw9232 hopefully we will see you on the trail sometime.

@@JeepingMo That would be awesome!

I would love to see how the trail was back then compared to today. I’m sure it was just as crazy.

@@outlaw9232 I haven't been on that trail in about 25 year's so I don't know how it compares but coming down the waterfall and the steps in a rear wheel drive truck was interesting. Some of the switchbacks we're fun in 2 wheel drive my old international handeled it like a champ 4 low and granny I had to give it throttle in some spots.

@@quackhead7492 The 2 Wheel drive part is what impressive. You got guts!!

@@outlaw9232 when I was 22 year's old I was invincible I wouldn't do that now it is amazing how much courage you have when you're young.

@@quackhead7492 lol you’ve got that right!!!

Oh wow! I have never seen that! Very interesting and I’d love to see that. Gutsy move.

It was a tighter fit than it looks. Thanks for watching!

Thank you. It was tighter than the video shows in spots but my buddy did a great job. We ran Imogene Pass back to Ouray after that too.

You would love Black Bear Pass!

Mike Robbins Thanks Mike!! Some day you and I will run this trail!!

thanks! It takes more time than Most people think but it is still fun for me to put them together. I use iMovie to do that.

I agree with you on that. It does make the Steps more difficult. I’ll pass your comment on to my buddy that drove the Ram. Thanks for watching!

I did it with nfab side steps and that rock caught my rear step on my Tacoma . I got hung up on that rock at the switch back. Had to get pulled off of it. Sliders would have made it much easier

It is an 8 ft bed he’s got. It took us a lot longer to get around that second switch back than the video shows. I had to edit it down for time. We both ran Imogene Pass after that as well. Me and my Jeep and him and his Ram. Thanks for watching!

Hey Richard thanks for watching! What you really didn’t see is that he actually did do that at one point. I had to edit the video down so much that part actually got cut out. It took us longer to get around that switch back than what the video shows.

That is a great question I’ve gotten before. The smaller fog lights (and the headlights) are LED. In reality they are not “blinking” it only looks like they are because of the shutter speed of the camera. When I first saw it watching back one of my videos during a water crossing I got really confused and concerned. Have you ever watched a video of a plane with propellers and it sometimes looks like the propellers are not moving at all? Well, kind of the same thing. I run the trails with the fog lights on for safety because it makes me more visible in dusty trail conditions but I’m considering turning them off while filming for this very reason. It does get a bit annoying to watch I agree. I really do appreciate your feedback and comment. Thanks for watching! I hope this explanation made a little bit of sense.

Hey Craig thanks for watching!!! Wow, South Africa! I’ll see if I can find something on that trail to watch!

Thanks for watching Robbie! There are some spots where it literally comes down to inches so if you run it with a big rig like that please please be very careful but I’m sure you will and you already know the trail.

Thanks Tom! Yea my buddy had some balls to do that. He’s got the experience and confidence to pull it off. LMAO ….. “land yacht”. So true.

Matthew Hatton Any chance you could ride along with somebody has a passenger and at least experience the trail and the views? It is stunning to be on the trail and look down into Telluride. If not there are a lot of other trails there that have incredible views.

just get on the pedicab

Oh man, I’ve never ran Mount Washington. I’m sure the East Coast has its fun trails and challenges, but the Colorado Trails here and the views are all standing but…shhh, quiet don’t tell anybody. 😆. Thank you so much for watching and I appreciate the comment so much. It means a lot. Starting to work on the next video to share.

Thank you Eric I appreciate that. Thanks for watching!

I like your perspective on this. Just curious if you have ever run Black Bear Pass and if so what do you think about the narrowness of the switch back and the distance you have to not do body damage on the rock on the inside of the turn? The hood on his 2019 RAM is so tall it blocks the view of the cliff edge. Crazy!

They are pretty small and I don’t know how much articulation they have in the suspension but I’m sure a Suzuki Jimny wouldn’t have issues on the tight switchbacks. Thanks for watching!

I watched a guy in a Jeep do that exact same thing on the second switch back. Cool to watch.

Hahaha it did take some guts. The only real uncomfortable spot he said was headed down to the second switch back after the steps. it’s a long narrow shelf road and his passenger side wheels were only a few inches from the edge. He said he won’t run it again, but he’s glad he did it at least once. Thanks for watching and I appreciate the comment a lot.!

Hi William thanks for watching! I would not recommend taking a full-size pick up down Black Bear. That was my friend and he was determined to do it. I’m the one that was driving the jeep. To do black bear my recommendation would be to have a short wheelbase definitely Four Wheel Drive a little bit of a lift for clearance good off-road tires and definitely a low geared transfer case. Most important of all the driver needs to have excellent offloading skills. The hardest part is discipline keeping your eyes on the trail and not looking around at the scenery while you’re moving.

I guess it would depend on the drivers experience and guts. Personally I would not. The majority of the trail is easy but once you hit the one way section before the "steps" and switchbacks I would highly recommend good ground clearance, ability to disconnect sway bars for good atriculation and a low geared transferase. There is a section before the steps that has become very tippy and off camber. There have been several roll overs there if it's not done just right.

No SBS’s allowed going down past the steps and switchbacks. I think one day a year they will run up from Telluride.

Thanks for watching in the comment! That switch back is so tight he will need to take it as wide as you possibly can. I think I see what you’re getting at by making smaller cuts but if you have never seen it in person it’s pretty amazing and narrow. I have to watch out for that rock in the corner even cutting my four-door Jeep around because it’s so tight.

@@outlaw9232 Yeah, I suspected that might be the case. The darn cameras just never do that type of thing justice. Nonetheless, great job on getting that bull turned around in a China-shop.

@@PK-vd3vo Hey thanks I appreciate that! You do have me thinking more more about making that turn with a big rig like that. You are correct though the video does not do the narrowness or steepness justice. It’s like trying to do a three point turn within a space about as wide as 1 1/2 parking spaces going steep downhill.

@@outlaw9232 Yeah, the only reason why I mentioned it was that with that long wheel base it was so noticeable how much real-estate was consumed maxing the forward move and turn after maxing the initial backup. It moved the effective pivot point in so dramatically, where a comitted smaller rachet would keep it further out. It might be kinda fun to experiment with a few cones in a parking lot. Anyway, don't mind me, I certainly wasn't there, and would likely do far worse if I were in the same situation. Glad it all ended well.

I’ll go back and watch it again but I have a feeling it’s because the lights are LED and it’s sometimes matching the frame speed of the camera. Are you talking about the jeep or the truck? If it’s the jeep that’s mine and the fog lights when being filmed appear to flash but in reality they don’t.

I just asked him and this is what he sent me. 35" Falken Wildpeak AT3W, 23 psi. He also said that a 35 inch tire will fit in the spare tire location but you just have to deflate it a little bit to get it up there. But it will fit. This is just in case you have a power wagon. Thanks for watching!

I have a PW and regularly go down as low as 15 psi on sand and 20-25 for harder packed trails.

@@dad_wagon1976 thanks for the sub Lab Wagon! That sounds like a good psi for sand and then different for harder surfaces. My friend Ash owns that red power wagon and has his own KZfaq channel called motor onwards. He’s got a couple great videos on there of Trail’s and over landing he’s done.

@@outlaw9232 I will check out Ash’s channel! 👍🏼👍🏼

Thanks for watching. Just know that the “Steps “ and the shelf road through the switch backs are very narrow and it’s highly recommend that the driver is very experienced! There is very little room for error in a rig that big on this trail.

I did it in my 2019 Raptor. I too have a TRX and contemplating on doing it again. The TRX is slightly wider than a 2nd gen Raptor.

Tfl has a video doing the trail, and there was a Raptor in front of them that made it.

How wide is the Raptor? The Steps and some switch backs are very narrow. I would do some research and use extreme caution.

@@outlaw9232 they're 86.6 inches wide. Where as a jeep jku is 73.6 for comparison.

@@root12510 if your width is from fender to fender you should be fine. If that’s the width of the wheels it will be a really tight fit on the switch backs. If so I would really recommend a spotter in the passage seat to let you know how close you are to the edge of the trail.

If you do I highly recommend a spotter on the switch backs. It took us longer to get around the 2nd switch back than the video shows. I had to edit it down. Thanks for watching!

@@outlaw9232 Yes, will definitely have a spotter!

@@swathdiver489 Having somebody on the passenger side watching the distance of your tires to the edge of the trail on the switchbacks is very helpful. My recommendation is always to run blackbear pass down to Telluride have lunch at Brown dog pizza and then take Imogene Pass back to Ouray. The main thing is when you’re driving if you want to look around and enjoy the views stop. While you’re driving pay attention to the trail. You will love this one it’s awesome!

@@outlaw9232 Thanks! Was originally planning to start in Telluride but there is no RV Camping nearby that I could see. Ouray has plenty and good to know we can do both in a day, Imogene is also on the bucket list! Appreciate the advice!

@@swathdiver489 Ouray is the “Jeep “ town and has the best access to a lot of trails. Telluride is beautiful too but more of an “artsy” town. Just wait until you see the view from Imogene looking over at the switch backs of Black Bear that you just came down.

Hahaha yeah, it’s such a tight switch back you want every inch of room you can get. Thanks for watching!

Hey Bill thanks for watching! This is John, Outlaw 923. I will ask Ash what he thought of the brakes and get back to you. Running the trail with him everything seem to work fantastic. I’m so impressed that truck has swaybar disconnect and lockers.

@@outlaw9232 yes sir and thank you. I ask as I recently bought the same truck (2021). Some have reported (Justin from CO, 2020 model), that the brakes are so poor they struggle holding the vehicle back while on trails in low range. Would love another perspective on that. I did watch Ash's complete series on the TAT which was fantastic. Thank you John, much appreciated

PS my wife and I are heading across the country next year with our off road trailer (when it gets here), planning portions of the TAT, many trails in CO and UT. I may consider brake upgrade.

@@billwaterhouse5894 ash will be thrilled to know you’re going to run TAT!! I’ve sent him a text asking him your question and I’m just waiting on a reply. He’s a long-haul trucker so he’ll text back when he has a chance. I know he will appreciate you watching his videos too. He doesn’t like the first couple videos but they got better as it went on.

Hey Bill I just talked to my friend Ash. He said the brakes are not the greatest but he really didn’t use that much being in four Lo and his truck has the hill dissent control. If you’re doing a long trip and towing a trailer it would probably be a good idea to upgrade the brakes.

That is impressive! It’s an awesome view coming down the steps isn’t it? Thanks for watching!

It was kind of a last minute run. We were on vacation and supposed to go to the Virgin Islands but that trip got canceled one week before. We needed to get away for a couple days. Someday I would love to make a deep run with some viewers and subscribers of the channel!!

Outlaw 923 no problem. I’m always up for anything. I’m currently waiting on long arms for my Jeep.! Please let me know what’s next. Do you have my number?

Troy Benson Just checked my contacts. Email it to me. Outlaw173@gmail.com

It was probably one of the last things I expected to see coming up blackbear pass, a pedicab! lol Thanks for watching!!

Most of the trail really is not that difficult at all just beautiful. But when you get to the steps and the first few Switchbacks believe me it will get your attention. Video does not do it justice and it definitely looks different in person. You’re right it isn’t that difficult but if you screw up you could die so you have to be careful! Thanks for watching!!

Sounds like a nice rig! Lol the call on that is all yours. It took longer to get my buddy around the second switch back than the video shows. It was tight.

My buddies Ram in this video is the largest I’ve ever seen but I don’t recommend it. I’ve got a 4 door Wrangler and it is tight enough for me. Thank for watching!

I think that "road " would be best on a mtb....lol.

Thanks for watching! I edit my videos using iMovie. There is an option to create a movie trailer choosing different themes. The music is just part of the theme I used for this trailer. I hope that makes sense…

Yes I believe they do that for snow removal right? That would be hairy in a Cat!

@@outlaw9232 and making the road passable

Jason, that’s great feedback that I need to hear! Thank you for your input. I have a couple new cameras I’m using and the audio is different for each of them and that’s what I’ve been working on, not the intro. I will try and make it all consistent from here on out! Thank you, I appreciate it.

Thanks Joshua! I know the volume of the intros is loud but I’m fixing that in future videos. Hey, welcome home and thanks for protecting our country. Thanks for watching!

You are absolutely correct it is not a long bed technically, it would not be considered a “full-size“ but it’s no mini truck. But I think you still have to admit it’s quite a feat getting that size of a truck down to switch backs of Black Bear pass. I do not believe a long bed crew cab dually would have a chance on this section of the trail.

@@outlaw9232 I never said you didn't have massive balls! 🤣 but I know my 4th gen ''Big bertha'' is not doin that shit! lmao I admit it looks fun, I actually love heights and rock crawling and you are right on the size limit of this trail!

@@andiamocclash397 Thanks for the compliment, but the RAM is driven by my buddy and I had my jeep. He’s the one that’s got the cojones!! He’s actually down in Ouray right now and I’ll be down there on the 16th. He’s not gonna take the truck down that trail again he’ll ride with me in the Jeep.

Hey I appreciate you watching!. I’m going to take a guess and say you’ve never run this trail. Video does not do it justice at all. It’s tight, especially for my buddies Ram pick up. Imagine trying to do a U-turn on the edge of 1000 foot cliff that is about 1 1/2 parking spaces wide on a decline with loose gravel. Believe me it’ll get your attention.

Yeah I know what you mean for sure. I have two cameras identical but one of them has a much better mic than the other. I know exactly what you’re talking about.