So is Goku

@@nebula6046 And me

Not a fan of the whole S cell explenation becoming canon because it doesnt explain goku and vegetas first transformations. Pretty sure goku even said that he didnt like being a super sayien at first because he noticed an obvious change in his attitude when he transformed making him more ruthless than when he was normal. He was more like vegeta when super saiyen than his normal happy go lucky/ playful attitude. This is why sayien saga through till the end of cell saga was the best dbz imo because it was more consitant with the way they explained sayien powers and wasnt about who has the best intentions and purest heart. When goku was trying to teach gohan to become supersayien he never mentioned anything about pure heart he was trying to make him angry to the point of letting go all restraint (which worked). Vegeta didnt turn supersayien because of a change of heart it was pure determination and greed. He wanted to be stronger than goku at almost any cost and hated being upstaged by goku reaching legendary sayien status. It all changed imo in boo saga when they decided goten and trunks basicaly turn super sayien easy af with barely any real training or trauma explaining it away in 1 episode that they both changed in sparring matches against one of there parents like it was nothing. yet goku was basicaly the purest hearted sayien ever since losing his memory as a kid because of a head injurie( before that he was a typical sayien that just wanted to destroy) and because he was raised by grandpa gohan and trained and fought his whole life yet didnt come close to supersayien till the trauma he experienced with frieza being the angriest hes ever been. Even gohan who could barely bring himself to hurt anything had a hard time turning supersayien and goku even said hes having trouble because he doesnt want to let go of his good nature. Gohan ssj2 against cell was ruthless. It was completely uncharacteristic for gohan to be that cold which is another reason why gohan hated turning ssj2 or even ssj1 and prefering his perfect state which didnt require him to transform at all. But now ssj is because of s cells being you have to have pure heart and good motivations? Such a cop out. Theres a reason goku spent extra time with gohan in hyperbolic time chamber and made him stay in ssj form. He says its to get him used to his strength boost but i believe it was also to make him used to being ssj with the attitude change so he wouldnt be uncontrollable when ever he transformed knowing he would be like that and being mentally prepared. He wasnt prepared for it to boost his attitude along with his power when turning ssj2 because no one had done it till that point which is why gohan played with cell to a level and git3 goku killed hence gohan never wanted to turn ssj2 ever again and only did it very rarely and it was never as strong as the first time not because he stopped training imo but because he was scared of the transformation itself, never really letting go of emotional restraint as much as when he did agaisnt cell

@@biz09ification how long did it take you to do that

@@Teeheepoopy 🤣

It’s because of those deaths they grew to these levels

destroying them was what they deserved. they were a blight on the universe killing and primitive, yeah they were enslaved and were "Following Orders" but before frieza they were also assholes and murderous. and refused to change. that's why yamoshi died in the first place. i think the universe willed this to happen and vegeta and goku were left because they were destined to turn out this way.

@@lcd8180yamoshi wasn’t evil he wasn’t like the other saiyans

No your wrong you are just too weeb making naruto as referrence lol

i agree to this

actually, half saiyans have more potential, they're just to lazy to fight.

ruffedd naw it not that it because most half bloods don’t like fighting unless they have to like gohan if gohan stilled trained he prob would hit ss3 before his father

FGO OB um trunks is stronger or even with merge zamasu

Exactly .. All they care about is getting that rich man daughter’ booty.. they Ain’t about pride and power no sir they into high school musical teenage love drama shit. I wonder how Vegeta controls himself from killing these half saiyans.

They soft asl

XD if they survived then they be getting stronger and,stronger to archie sonic level 😂😂😂😂

what if they did? and you just don't know it???

@@norqdbi7584kid goten would've literally obliterated freeza

They will destroy earth

That’s why they got taken out Frfr it wouldn’t even be a dbz it would be called super saiyans z they that would be one planet over times the zenos

He probably did. In the recent manga chapters he trained to focus his KI more effectively to prepare to battle Moro. Vegeta was surprised with the effects of that training. His battle power is on another level now.

@@Endrju21 hes always been my favourite. Legit the embodiment of limitless untapped potential and one of the biggest underdogs in anime history

Gabriel Yeowart yeah, I hope they will do justice to his character finally. He always is a warm up, as Goku Rose said. Waiting for Goku to show up and finish the opponent. I count on Vegeta this time, that his new skills be essentiall to the upcoming battle

Vegeta Pretty Much Already Did Change His Way Of Thinking And His Emotions During His Rematch With Goku When He Turned into Majin Vegeta The Exact Moment HE Finally Did Change Was When He Sacrificed Himself With Final Explosion in a attempt to destroy Majin Buu It Litterally Is Considered One Of The Best Character Development Scenes in All Of Anime And Is One Of The Main Reasons Why Almost all Anime Fangirls Worthy of Being Called Weebs Almost Always Have Vegeta As One Of Their Top 10 Favorite Husbandos Of All Time For Crying Out Loud It Was Never Real Shown In DBZ OR SUPER But It Was Heavily Implied That At Some Point Of Screen Vegeta Promised Bulma If They Were To Ever have A Second Child He Would Actually BREAK SAIYAN NORMS AND ACTUALLY BE THEIR FOR HER WHEN THEIR SECOND CHILD IS BORN AND HE ACTUALLY KEPT HIS WORD HECK ITS A COMMON ANIME MEME THAT VEGETA DID FINALLY SURPASS GOKU AT SOMETHING VEGETA IS A FAR BETTER HUSBAND AND ARE FAR BETTER FATHER THEN GOKU BY THE TIME DRAGON BALL SUPER ANIME ENDED.

@@dreadlordaxtonus6673 caps only go on the first word of each sentence and names

I though the same thing

How was that party

It would've been epic, but its oozaru

Doesn't make sense since MUI isn't a Saiyan only thing. The second voice was simply reminiscent to what the Dragon Ball Z anime did with the SSJ.

It was him really no doubt when Goku reached a Saiyan God that was ui in disguise did you notice that

can you provide a link? i thought this was 100% non-canon and fan lored

There's no way this is canon all the dates are out of place maybe yamoshi himself is but this storyline isnt

Matthew Reynolds nah it's canon , just a retcon by Toriyama himself said it .. so it's canon .. Yamoshi is the first SSJ but he never became a SSG like some people think

@M.Nauval Fahmilegendary super saiyan is Bardok when he went back in time..

@@PikachuPolice that wasnt canon

goku is the real father of goku

@@bakedcity857 but bardock looks just like goku

Bardock is Yamoshi

@@hag3306 😂😭😭😭🧟‍♂️

That's not why but it wouldn't be surprising if Goku was related to yamoshi. Itd just make Vegeta even farther behind in terms of power and lore n stuff lol.

Also mentioned that namekians made dragonballs by breaking it off the super dragonballs

I agree with you completely. Piccolo definitely needs a new power up. And being connected to the gods. It would make complete sense. That he be able to unlock God ki. He just needs something or someone. To push him to that point.

I’ll also be grabbing that book😍

How many pages?

@@no2ed 30 pages. Not worth the money

Is it fan made?

@@ManzoorKhn212yes

Finally everyone hating on dbs like leave it alone.

Dragonball super isnt the only one you have watched is it. If so go back and watch it all. From the original dragonball. All the way up to dbs. The whole series is good. Super is good I liked it. But what came before it was better in my humble opinion.

sweetchaos Fox u do it

@boom saka saka No u do it

Will he actually read it tho?

Training with whis wasn’t bad help lol probably taught him more in 1 day than he ever knew

He could just wish for his trauma and anger to either forget it or get over it. Or wish for the most powerful therapist in the Universe to help him

Dead Yggdrasil cvkzjdyldyi XD

Most likely yes.

Yeah I wish I was a saiyan too

The thing is, Beerus would never known about the SSG if it wasn't for the Fish telling him when one would appear, I may be wrong, but I like reading everyone's opinions.

Saiyan Jesus

Pinocchio the real boy s cells have always been a thing in the dbz multiverse

@@Spiceistaround never said they weren't. But thanks for clarifying.

i think they're related bc broly is a legendary super saiyan

He is broly

Yamoshi said I will come after 1000 years as legendary super saiyan and broly is super saiyan

Yamoshi said it to beerus

Nah, first super Saiyan tho

Isn't it possible that the seer was actually talking about yamoshi that he will show beerus about ssg in his dream? I mean the seer knows about the future right?

Mr Abu nah they already confirmed in the show that he was talking about Goku

When Goku turns Super Saiyan first Time, Vegeta mentioned that he thought Super Saiyan is just a myth and Story of a saiyan who turned super saiyan for the first time in planet vegeta is not true... So there was a person who achieved the super saiyan for first time in planet vegeta..

Nonsense

Ig it could have been possible

​​@@cnwagboso293no it couldnt , if he was bardock then vegeta would never be destroyed

but he doesnt fight to hurt to kill people like the other saiyans did, he just likes to fight he'll even fight people weaker than him just for fun so in comparison he is peaceful

@@rockk9753 and, he also Gave frieza power when he already beat him so frieza could get away, normal saiyons wouldn't do that

@@Christren007 for sure and he's always off training not bothering anyone saiyans hardly did any real training they just fought endlessly, so yeah Goku is pretty peaceful for a saiyan

@@rockk9753 I'd say beyond peacfull for a Saiyon concidering raditz went to kill off his brother, and nephew, without recourse, and the fact that vegeta always tried to see the most powet possible, life cell going perfect, goku wouldn't let that happen because he is more selfless than selfish. Universe 6 saiyons are alot different though, they are civilized...

@@rockk9753 but your totally right man, and btw, at school I'm like the only kid who likes dragon ball z, acctually I love it, but besides that, I think it's so cool to have a community with people who share my love for this incredible show

😲 I just noticed that I think there could be

@Jaqai Banks jokes on you

Read fan manga from thibault deboom about Yamoshi..