I’m almost certain it was an Arkhamverse game at some point because the connections are too numerous

Even with the canonical ties severed Gotham Knights definitely still feels like a spiritual successor, the specifics are different but it expands on Arkham Knight's themes@@FullFatVideos

@@FullFatVideosapparently some ideas where going to be in a cancelled Arkham beyond game but were used in Gotham knights instead

They realized Arkham Knights undersold and thought that's the reason why

Do they think so few people are familiar with Killer Frost that they need to do a female Mr Freeze to get another woman in the roaster?

@@TheJadedJamesagain it’s useless when you already have a female character for that and have her have a good introduction to people that don’t know her that’s why interpretations of characters exist

Where is female freeze?

​@shawnwilcowski she's mentioned to be an upcoming dlc character.

Wow, that's fucking stupid

I’m worried that there was somebody at Rocksteady who said that and someone responded that Killer Frost just isn’t well known or popular enough so the only option is to gender flip Mr Freeze

@@TheJadedJames Then that's how you make her known and popular. Take a relatively unknown character and give that character the chance and spotlight to wow everyone. Mr Freeze was a relatively forgotten villain in the nineties, but thanks to BTAS (Batman the Animated Series), it gave new life to this originally gimmick character.

@@TheJadedJames Pretty sure Killer Frost got some fans from The Flash CW series. And she was in Justice League Unlimited, Injustice: Gods Among Us and LEGO DC Supervillains. And gender-flipping a popular character is the WORST thing a game company could do in this social climate. Any time a character's gender or race was changed, there's controversy about it. Deadshot being black is a criticism for this game. The female Ghostbusters movie flopped. Gender-flipping Mr. Freeze could not have been the only option. The Avengers had better choices for post-launch characters with Hawkeye, Spider-Man Black Panther and Winter Soldier. And at least the genderflipped Hawkeye and Thor were already their own characters in the comics and are playable with the male versions. Despite what people say about The Avengers, it sure is a lot better than Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League, because at least it doesn't have a premise of you playing as mercenaries killing Earth's Mightiest Heroes. No, you're the Avengers stopping A.I.M. And it has a better Kamala Khan and M.O.D.O.K. than the ones the MCU gave us.

It should have been Mr Freeze and Nora and Killer frost and Captain cold! Have a whole freeze team be DLC!😡

Agreed, in spite of all the negativity I really really wanted to come out to bat for them ?(no pun intended) but it simply isn't very good...

Arkham Knight is an amazing game. It isn't any more "flawed" than prior Arkham games, and the gameplay and open world were easily the best the series had ever seen, Batmobile included.

Everyone dumped on Arkham knight when it came out

I thought I heard that rocksteady had a bunch of new employees. Idk if I heard this in a video or it was a theory but the original team which created the Arkum verse was no longer employed or either didn’t work on this game.

its not the same studio anymore so it would have been impossible to create all that. These people don't love the Arkhamverse like we do

Ivy coming back is fine, no issue there. Them trying to retcon her and Harleyv having always been a thing (with the weird comments as well) was stupid

Bro it's canon just an alternate universe

What was even the thought process when they did that? "Hey, let's connect this Suicide Squad game to the arkhamverse. Fans will love killing characters they only got to hear about until now, and they'll be ecstatic to humiliate, mock, and eventually murder a beloved version of Batman they got to know for years."

@@johnjackson8327 money hungry jaded idiots who bank too much on the "likability" of an unlikeable suicide squad

Slipknot (the man who can climb anything) solo movie coming 2026

If this was Sony they would take that suggestion seriously

Who cares about Slipknot? I only know him as the guy who died in the first Suicide Squad movie to confirm that the team really do have bombs in their heads.

Because your incel

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that could actually be so cool

Permadeath would be a fun way to play with some caution but also have some fun with friends ngl

Omg a suicide squad game taking place during any of the arkhams is such a good idea!!!!

@@FullFatVideos I know, like it happens alongside the story. You could even use that to throw in the Batman stealth section.

@@FullFatVideos Ok, long reply, but I've thought about it more: There would be 4-5 missions and levels: The first mission I'd suggest would take place in Arkham City, where the Squad are looking for scientist Professor Ivo, who has been stranded there following a plane crash. They are also tasked with getting his research, which has fallen into the hands of the Black Mask, while Ivo is taken by Penguin/Two-Face/Riddler/whoever. The Squad find out that Ivo is working for Vandall Savage, who wants him to create the ultimate weapon in the form of an android. They also come in conflict with Batman. Ivo is extracted by Savage, and is taken away. Using his research, the Squad discover the component he needs is in an abandoned Lex-Corp warehouse in Metropolis (mission 2). They need to avoid Lex Luthors security, and get the device first. This leads to conflict with Luthor and Savages men. Superman gets wind of this, showing up as the Squad leave. The team fail to get the component, but discover that Savage needs Kryptonite, and has an arms dealer in Kandaq giving it to him. Mission 3 (Kandaq) is a stealth mission in a market to intercept the deal, leading to a mass shooting with a local gang leading to a fight with Black Adam. They intercept the deal, placing a tracker on the shipment of Kryptonite. They use that as a way to follow Savage to his lair, where Mission 4 (Legion of Doom lair) where the squad infiltrate the lair, fight Savage and his thugs, then Ivo's creation Amazo, who has copied all the squads powers that have been played so far (the more squad members die, the trickier Amazo is). The Squad destroy Amazo, Savage is buried, the day is saved, they are put back in jail. 2 post-credit scenes: Deathstroke getting a call from the Arkham Knight. Luthor finding the Legion of Doom base, figuring it could work for his own ends. Potential DLC pitches: Asylum: a prequel adding 1 new mission leader and 2 new characters that takes the Squad to Arkham Asylum, where they are looking to break out Maxie Zeus, who has important info on some big shot drug dealer gang who Waller wants to bring down. Again, Batman fight. They also run into Joker, who breaks out with the Squads accidental help, which leads to him getting captured (in time for the events of Arkham Asylum). Girls Get it Done: Female Squad members only, as the Squad are infiltrating Themyscira, looking for an escaped fugitive with vital secrets. This is mostly stealth, but with some cool fights, and ends with the reveal that the fugitive is Circe, leading to the Squad and Wonder Woman teaming up to face her. 1 new female mission leader and 2 new female characters are added. Militia: Deathstroke is broken out of prison by the Knight. The Squad are sent into Militia controlled Gotham. Their job is to kill Deathstroke, ensuring he doesn't tell anyone about the Squad. They need to search several Militia bases to find info on him, before tracking him down. They fight several villains, such as Firefly and Man-bat in the process. They track Deathstroke down, but he escapes them after a boss fight. Batman shortly captures Deathstroke, so the Squad need to break into GCPD and ensure everythings good. For whatever reason (maybe they erase his memories or something) he is still alive after the mission. A new mission leader is added, along with two new characters.

As for the roster: 5 players you can make "Team Leader": Deathstroke (good in normal fights, commands some loyalty, good at stealth) Prometheus (perks against superpower characters, of which there would be a few of, such as boss fights and heightened minions etc. Doesn't command much loyalty, unlikely to stay loyal to Waller's plan) Lady Shiva (perks for stealth missions and normal fights, command the most loyalty) Malcolm Merlyn (useful in stealth and fights, extra skill in strategy, good for solo mode) Clock King (able to slow down time and work strategy better across all missions, a good all rounder) Then 15 characters to choose from for the missions (I'm intentionally avoiding ones from the films until DLC, and I'm going to put some from the games though): Great White Shark (brawler, good in fights, decent at intelligence, lack of stealth) Blockbuster (lack of intelligence and stealth, good at fights and boss fights) Gizmo (intelligent, stealthy, not as good at boss fights, OK at regular fights)- alternate skin Thinker Cupid (stealth, good in combat, less good against superpowers, loyal) Knockout (strong, a good all rounder) Scandal Savage (story member after she is captured mission 1. Good at stealth and normal combat, might betray the team Mission 4 if mission leader is swapped out, as she forms a bond with them) Captain Boomerang (good in normal and heightened fights, unreliable in stealth, challenges authority) Tattooed Man (good in stealth and heightened fights, less good against normal goons with guns) Battleaxe (good against thugs and good in stealth, not loyal, or good against bosses) Killer Frost (good all rounder, needs to kill consistently to steal heat and stay alive) Ragdoll (best at stealth, decent in normal fights, doesn't die easily, generally shifty) Cavalier (decent in normal fights, mostly bad elsewhere, won't betray the Squad no matter what) Count Vertigo (likely to disrespect authority, bad in stealth, good as an assist in general combat) Plastique (good in regular fights, loyal, can set traps in stealth, often loud though, and not as good in boss fights) Condiment King (useless at everything, but having him increases stats of everyone else) Now for the DLC: Asylum: New leader option: Bloodsport (good at stealth, good in normal fights, not so much against bosses) 2 new members: Polka-Dot Man (good in fights, average at stealth, loyal) King Shark (big and strong, good against bosses and fights, bad at stealth, loyal) Girls Get It Done: New leader option: Kitana (she has your back, I'd advise not getting killed by her. Her sword traps the souls of her victims) New female squad members: Harley Quinn (decent at stealth, good in normal fights, unlikely to follow orders) Enchantress (good in boss fights, normal fights and stealth. Disloyal, often landing you with June Moone) Militia: New Leader option: Peacemaker (bad at stealth, increases loyalty, good in normal fights) New members: Kite Man (bad at stealth, moves quick, everyone just works better with him there) Ratcatcher (good for stealth, average at boss fights and normal fights, loyal)

A Suicide Squad game in the vein of Midnight Suns would be awesome

No he’s right this is how fans always react. Arkham Origins: WOW THIS SUCKS Arkham Origins 2 years later: Am I the only one that thinks Arkham Origins is criminally underrated? Arkham Knight: TOO MUCH TANK FIGHTING, HUSH WASTED, JASON REVEAL WAS SO OBVIOUS Arkham Knight 2 years later: Wow this masterpiece looks like a next gen game. Rocksteady the best developer for superhero games. Same goes for when someone is casted to play Batman in a movie and basically everything that has to do with superhero fans. The herd will be calling this a underrated hidden gem by 2026.

@@inshal6420 I’m sure that’s true for the most part, but as someone who never once got why people hated Arkham Origins (best combat in the series & nice deep cuts) and really got to see just how coordinated the Gaming Press is with how they handled Arkham Knight’s reviews/news (even downplaying the PC Port, which was A TOTAL HACKJOB compared to other PC Port Hackjobs) that keyed everyone into how good reviews =/= actually good/great game (a majority of the time); Arkham Knight itself was pretty bloated with haphazard balancing around the clunky Batmobile driving, the bizarre overthinking of the Freeflow Combat system (that becomes comedically + inhumanly FAST; the tag team takedowns are the best addition tho), their foreshadowing of [SPOILERS] being [sPoIlErS] via marketing & the story itself was just heavyhanded + terrible (and so was the story), and their inability to really understand how to utilize Villains like Professor Pyg (appreciated the inclusion tho) or Deathstroke (THAT STUPID TANK BATTLE THO) while making Scarecrow kind of lame…since they made The Joker the “main antagonist” once again for…reasons(?) 🤷🏽‍♂️ What was I talking about initially…? Oh yeah…Herd Mentality! I credit the whole thing about people changing their minds on things they formally hated on Social Contagion that comes from how viewers will literally just side with Creators/Influencers they like and even just defend stuff they disagree with just because they’re that deep in that one-sides Parasocial Relationship. Then there’s how some creators can and will just pull at the barest of threads of topics just to have something to make a video on…and some people will watch it and go “WOW…I NEVER THOUGHT OF IT LIKE THAT!” despite it just being a contradictory (or even just overtly defensive of Popular Opinion). Sooooo many YTers are guilty of this as well as light/heavy plagiarism 🤔 People only seem to dismissively believe it’s “herd mentality” if it’s a convenient way to excuse overwhelming negative reception of something that’s popular (or just deeply unpopular)…which ultimately leads to the newly standard… “The Detractor(s) are [list of gaslighting terms ending in Ist/Phobic specifically meant to scare compliance into the people saying it] and aLt-RiGhT (something that does not mean anything anymore)!!!” …Or the Centrist/Right-Leaning… “They’re just clout-chasing & entitled cry-bullies who complain the loudest” (or something to that effect) …or just a video essay meant to perform chicanery around the Popular/Incendiary Opinion. Like this one…that isn’t really saying anything original and mostly just says some stuff that either everyone agrees with (completely or even just slightly) or simply only seeks to “be different” by doing the whole “it’s not 100% terrible” bit that purposely misses the point. While other opinions are great to have and appreciated…sometimes you can simply just spot the ones that only exist to be contrarianist in the face of (an) open & shut case(s) of Common Sense. TL;DR: Sometimes Common Sense isn’t so common; also, Content Creators can and will be lazy a lot of the time 🤷🏽‍♂️

thank you!!! yeah, i liked that it was set in the arkhamverse to continue that world, but now in practice i wish it was its own thing

@@FullFatVideos Exactly. Also what you said about herd mentality is on point.

Honestly even disregarding its canonicity, it's story just sucks. The plot armor alone is awful and ruins the story. Then u get the trash and non-existent arcs, the obvious hatred for certain characters and bias for others, etc.

​@@madtitanthanos7898beating Batman and Superman by shooting them a lot was so dumb

@thomascheckie2394 they didn't even give superman a death cutscene

I defo think all of them are coming back, maybe even Wonder Woman

True but it relied a little too much on Arkham City’s gameplay. It felt like a Arkham City remix.

It's like Borderlands laced with Fortnite but worse where every character functions the same, only differed in skill trees. And either of them did better than this game could have.

And white Deadshot showed a remarkabl marksmaship, blackDeadshot have never did. White Deadshot rirocheted bullets of the guns of his men, and the tail rotor of a helicopter to get his traget which was 300 meter away.

i agree, it was cool finding out Boomerang had a speed force gauntlet but then immediately thought... why can't we just be the flash

@@FullFatVideosgood chance we will be if the game stays alive long enough. Lots of leaks of move sets.

@@Tonebaited123 Considering the player numbers and sales have already dropped off a cliff and Warner Bros wants it to last for 12 seasons, I'd be surprised if it wasn't killed off in like two months or less.

Thanks for watching!

they could have avoided needing to justify it so hard if they just switched him out for Bloodsport (A way cooler character anyway).

i agree they left the door slightly ajar for her to return, but failed to justify it with the storyline they went with

"Why did no one ask where or when Will Smith got napped and real Lawton made himself big without his immediate family asking?"

Hell, if you offer mission you could let the player capture villains in optional quests. Giving the player the option to risk the lives of lesser villians to obtain more useful ones.

I've also been thinking of something similar. Actually batman could be used for intelligence gathering as a covert opps (like in young justice) in this universe. It's win win. Certainly better than the character assassination garbage we got. It doesn't matter now they burned bridges.

Hahahaah

That would explain things away neatly but would be very weird for the character all the way back from Arkham city to be a multiverse character. I’d rather the new deadshot was the multiverse character

@@FullFatVideos I don't disagree with you there - They in game mention how it brings up a plothole because lex hadn't discovered multiversal travel until recently and this other deadshot has been around for like 10 years. So it's just poorly thought out

I would love to do a video on x men legends!!!!

Still holds up today!

@@FullFatVideosNot only Holds up but Surpasses.

I thought this game should've been the Gotham knights story. Barbara and Tim are doing their own thing dick is in bloodhaven jl is corrupted. They use Batman's plans to take them out. They find Jason because he has the tech and underworld connections to make the devices. Redemption arc for team because Batman still believes in him still after all he's done. They save the jl and Batman's influence still lives on through the 4 of them

Yeah that would be cool. I’d love you to have dead members come back on brainiac’s side

You already know the answer.

Aunque es poco probable que ocurra hubieran sido geniales para una secuela

You’re right it is strange to go so animated series with the core Batman cast but not even consider it for the League

@@FullFatVideos I’m also just super sad we are never gonna hear the Conroy, Newbern and Eisenberg trinity ever again

Kevin Conroy talked about how doing video games is completely different than animation. He kept doing it because be loved the character but its not for everyone. Video games are more energy draining and time consuming than animation.

This was in development before Gunn's version so of course Cocksteady didn't bother with the guy who put Superman in ICU.

I literally said don’t point to some random audio file to explain away the incoherence of the narrative

I could see something more like that happening in the future, I don’t think we’ll get a live service dc game for a long time

@@FullFatVideos how terrible that would be to not have a live service game... lol