Good point. Plus, it's annoying as shit!

For crying out loud you firefighting experts. Cant you ever notice the good things they did ? No you cant because you all don't have a say in your own department so you come on here pretending to be National Fire Academy Fire instructors. Go back to watching Emergency where you learned all of your superior skills.

This is facts.

I can tell a video is from NJ just from that. It happens all the time there for some reason. Its like thats what they teach to do at the fire academy for some inexplicable reason. Why do they turn every scene into Ground Zero after the WTC fell?

@@jerseyshorefireresponse hey you, if you don't have Closed Captioning working, you will get flagged with possible removed your video by KZfaq support

What is a PASS alarm

@@jayasmrmore3687 it makes a loud alarm sound when we stand still to long. It is meant to alert other firefighters to a down firefighter. It has lights that go off when it does. It can also be set off manually if needed during an emergency. Again so others can find and rescue the firefighter in trouble. Problem is people put their packs down and forget to turn the pass alarm off so it thinks the firefighter is down and starts alarming. Problem with that is after a while firefighters begin to just ignore the sound. It is kinda like crying wolf. After a while people start to assume the alarm is just a false alarm and no one goes to investigate it.

amen

wrong

Did you get canned? Still bitter I'm afraid.

@@RLTtizME He's not wrong... toxic inhalants are not limited to only the people on the nozzle... and the PASS continually sounding serves only to condition firefighters to habitually ignore the sound so when something really goes bad, no one notices.

@@KillerTruffle Cite 3 circumstances where this very thing has occurred. Go.

A don never wears shorts

It all looked well organised by self motivation to me. While the nozzleman was not using his SCBA, he was upwind from the smoke and getting water on the exposure can never be too soon. The second crew, seeing the exposure well covered, dealt with the car, so their jet was diffused. Their was little smoke, mainly water vapor, and the second crew were wearing SCBA. The guy who was helping to prevent the line from kinking, knew what he was doing and may have been a retired firefighter for all we know. The pass alarms are another story and should not have been left sounding. I have heard of a case where another member of the team was disciplined for cancelling the nozzleman's alarm. The whole thing needs a rethink, before someone ends up in need of assistance and everyone is ignoring what is happening to him. We always criticize firefighters for standing around and watching things burn, so we should give credit where it is due. One thing that always amazes me is the reluctance of combined interior, exterior attack in the US. While firing a deck cannon through the windows while crews are inside would be highly dangerous, I have seen guys ignoring flames from a window entering the roofspace, rather than use their line to put the eves and window frame out. Combined attacks are common here in the UK, but they require proper training and constant communication between the crews.

@@wilsjane I like your opinion. But since these events can either become worse or switch paradigms, the best rule to follow is that if you are involved in the fight against fire, no matter the severity, you wear 100% of your PPE.

And the one guy without turnout gear man handling a hose in his runners and t-shirt. Get off the fire ground idiot!

cool story, bro. You should tell it on tiktok to kids who might give a fuck.

@@johnd5398 Well said BRO. Very mature. At least my comment related to the video. TROLL

That is just old school. It’s ok if you don’t stand in the smoke very long or are upwind. Real firemen can and will take some smoke.

@@lottnio8207 Yeah until something in the car explodes or the wind shifts. You take literally ONE breath of air that's too hot and you are dead. Not like, well you might be in the hospital for a bit or be disabled, dead. There is no good reason to not utilize the protection that we have at our disposal. You ride with the pack digging into your back for the entire ride, why would you not wear it?

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. In today's society, every Tom, Dick & Harry with a cell phone is "the media" LOL and expects full access to scenes just like competent, recognized journalists. I'm glad this member of "the media" did stay across the street and merely film without getting involved or obstructing the firefighters and police officers, so kudos there. Far too many with cell phones want to get right in the faces of working police and emergency response personnel, even to the point of arguing and harrassing them with unnecessary comments and threats just for the pure enjoyment of getting a reaction that they can post online. The 1st amendment gone wrong.

Video taping shit has nothing to do with the 1st amendment. The 1st amendment does one thing and one thing only. It prevents the government from *criminally* charging you for words alone. You can still be sued taken to civil court by private entities/people for libel/slander if you say demonstratably false defaming statements. You can still be charged if you impede a rescue or firefighting operation. You can still be evicted from a private enterprise if you use speech they dont like. Publishers can choose not to print your books. All it does is prevent the government itself from criminally charging you. I think like 90% of this country needs better civics lessons. I keep hearing "free speech/1st amendment" but the first amendment doesnt mean "you can say whatevver you wan with no consequences." People can and do get sued for libel/slander in civil court, and you can be evicted or otherwise removed from a non governmental entity for your speech.

It takes 30 seconds to knock down the car fire. That for sure is the most efficient way to protect the house.

Putting out the FIRE is the best way to protect exposures...

By that logic you let the neighbors house burn down while you drown the exposure and destroy it with water damage instead of nutting up and just putting the dam fire out before the situation gets worse

I have been on facilities where that was policy, as in written in stone, for good reason. Protect exposure at (well not quite all) cost. The risk of for spread was too great.

@@jdaz5462 In that 30 seconds the fire could get behind the cladding. Then the tank water runs out. Things like that happen all to often.

Do you pee into a sink with your friends?

Whitehats inVol service have to be on the nozzle.

Back to the armchair junior fire marshal! 👩‍🚒

here a idea stop judging first reponders with a amuter advice on soical media

@@NickyD Was fighting fires while you were pooping yellow in your diaper. These videos don’t lie North Jersey Shore towns have some major training issues.

Too bad you weren't at the fire seen to lecture the crews. You must have been busy throwing valves at the manure slurry depot. Your shoes stink.

if it was an EV it would have made national news and if it was a Tesla it would make news worldwide. 🤷‍♂

@@sludog No, they'd bury the story like it was Hunter Biden partying with hookers and blow...

Probably a camera.

dji drone with a tic and image sensor next to each other just hand held instead of flying. love it just can't record audio with it so I choose to use it for certain jobs.

@@jerseyshorefireresponse I know some of the DJI Drones have the Thermal camera/color pallets. Is this one of those or are you using something different?

@@johnd5398 🤣

Thanks!

Mold in the walls?

His choice not yours.

If you put out the car the exposure is safe. I see no reason whatsoever to wait for the second engine. Putting out a car fire takes not much water.

@@marcopstal9584 Obviously it’s like I always say, when idiots open their mouth on social media, like yourself, you prove what I always said about social media. Social media reveals the IQ of people like you. Do you see the stuff on the side of that house? It is melting. That’s what we referred to as vinyl siding. Your homework moron is to find the fire rating of vinyl siding. Have you ever seen vinyl siding burn? It is very familiar or similar to napalm. Let me help you. Vinyl siding has no fire rating because the lobbyist have kept this from happening. if it did you would come out better putting wax cardboard on the side of the house. So let’s go back to your statement. You let car burn and you protect exposure idiot! Go ask your mama for another fire prevention coloring book and let’s see if you can use more than two colors without eating the crayons this time!

@@marcopstal9584 Hit the fire and you don't have an exposure problem !

@@mandyomally4896 Exactly

This is a joke right? It takes WEEKS to get water into 50' of hose, no one has a pack on from the first in engine, SOMEONES PASS IS ACTIVE FOR LIKE 5 FUCKING MINUTES (they must teach this at the NJ state level because it is ever present in videos from the place), they have dueling lines hitting each other in the face, losing helmets because no one knows what a chin strap is, OIC is standing closer than the nozzleman without a single stitch of proper PPE. This is a genuine, Grade A, Cluster Fuck. On top of it all, its a car. The house might be exposed but its not on fire. If you put the fire out then there is no longer an exposure problem. Playing exposure protection is WAY overthinking the problem here. Just put the fire out! If the siding was already lighting off or sliding down the side of the house then thats different but thats not the case here.

However...you in particular need their permission to make jackass commentary. Please call your Union Steward if you are in fact still employed.

It must have been the white hat on the nozzle that didn’t want to wear it that day

Do you have a PA system installed on your couch?

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Calm down keyboard warrior

@@michaelsheffler5710 not being a keyboard warrior here. Just wondering if basic fireground rules are not taught?

@@kellenphillips68 because sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do....put the wet stuff on the hot stuff

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That might have been the view from the infrared camera which shows hot and cool spots.

Those are size up photos of the structure with no fire on it or around it. For learning & education purpose.

This fire happened on the date stated.

@@jerseyshorefireresponse -Thanks for the info. :)

They are google earth photos taken earlier this year, for reference

Jesus do you have to comment on every single video abt sum back seat bull shit how long does it take u to get water on a fire, a minute is not bad. Or have you not even been interior yet

Are you an insurance adjuster or just a moron?

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wow hang on Graham, 1st off yes I do. I see what I see as every member of the public see's. As I said, surely the car should have been priority to stop the house burning down. how long were they on scene before the filming showed? the video only shows after they turned up so what was it, say another minute or two, that's 3 mins...man they should look at other brigades all over the world and get some tips on speed?? I'm not knocking the job they do its fantastic and brave but it annoys me so much compared to the way we and many other authorities around the world fight fires.....put a bit more urgency into it.......

That was the plan lol

Piss off. Turn your volume down doofus.

You make us want to tinkle.

1. Stick your fingers in your ears. 2. Turn the sound off on the video. 3. Pack your ears with tampons. 4. Stop complaining.

Probably not, wouldn't have been able to knock it down that fast.

Ford pinto.

That’s a thermal camera to show the heat from the fire…. Lol

@E A Perras My dad says "it never ceases to amaze me how stupid some people are". You just proved his point, unless youre a child in which case I apologize. But if you are an adult, wow - thermal cameras have existed for 40 years, and are common nowadays. Have you been under a rock for 40 years? If you are a child: Its a thermal camera to show temperature. Thermal cameras show from cold to hot in varying degrees of color. The darker blue, the colder. Green is cool. Shades of red, yellow, white are the hottest. So, you can see the spots where the fire made it hot even after the firefighters got the fire out.

Bahahaha thanks for the laugh.

The fire was knocked down in under 5 minutes genuis. How much faster do u want

You have an answer for the Chief being on the nozzle? Love to hear it. With you being a former volunteer, you must of went to tens of fire. (P.S. there isn’t a good answer)

As a former volunteer you should know the way it all works then, correct? You would have no reason to debate anyones comments because you would understand that some of decisions made were not necessarily the best choice, correct? There’s no reason for a chief to be walking around the scene without gear using a portable radio. He responded in command vehicle. As a former volunteer you should know that that is the location the IC works from, not walking around the scene. I’m sorry but not putting your gear on shows nothing but laziness and sets a poor example for your members. The member that should be “making sure that the firefighters have all the resources they need” is operating the nozzle of the first hand line. Your former years surely taught you not to attack a heavily involved vehicle fire without an SCBA and proper turnout gear, right? Speaking of SCBA, your past training has taught you that it takes time to engage the pump and stretch the line, get it to operating pressure, etc. So if it takes time, then I would think that officer should have had time to put on an SCBA and be ready to work, would that be correct? And getting water at this particular incident should not take time. The radio reports confirmed they’d be going to work as soon as they arrived on scene. It’s all very simple. Setting the brake, engaging the pump and opening the tank to pump valve should only take seconds. There was no line to flake out or any long stretch to make. A single length of hose from tank water doesn’t get any easier or faster. You are right though, in the end the job got done and there was minimal damage to the house. However, it’s the minor details that get forgotten, such as not wearing gear properly or opposing hose streams, that change a seemingly routine vehicle fire into anything but in a fraction of a second. But I’m sure you already knew that as a former volunteer.

@@ritirons2726 as a former volunteer in that town I know a few things that you don't. The IC in the traffic vest is the department chief. He works for the town's public works. He was at a jobsite in town, left work, and was on scene in seconds. White helmet or no white helmet, all the guys there know who he is. All of the members live in the town, which is a whopping 4 square miles. There was a critique after this fire, like every working incident, and The department's two stations are unstaffed; they rely completely on home response. Every firefighter you see in this video dropped what they were doing, got to the station, and got multiple pieces on the street fully staffed, including the tower ladder that turned out to be not needed. If one of the chief officers is needed for initial staffing, then that's what they do. Just like every other volunteer department in America. Many of the guys you see here have been firemen (yeah, I said firemen) longer than you or I have been alive. Like my 79 year-old father, who responded from home, drove the first-arriving engine, and got things in service. With his gear on. I guarantee he has socks that have seen more fire than you have. He's been department chief and officer off and on since the late 60s. He, and the other over-70 guys in this department, have taken every piece of training ever offered to them, so it isn't a case of "one year of experience repeated 50 times over." They don't have a choice; there are younger members (mostly the children of the older members), but the town is simply too expensive to live in to support a population of younger people with spare time to recruit members from. They got the job done well. Without your help.

Agreed 110%. Retired firefighter paramedic with 28 years full time. Those armchair firefighters watched to many reruns of Emergency!

@@brandonseyfried1251 and your point is what?

Judging by the looks of the escape it looked like one of the ones that had issues with the coolant system. From the Detroit new article, “Overheating can lead to cracked cylinder heads that leaks oil and create the possibility of an under-hood fire.”

Can you imagine that? You go out to work or whatever, come home, and youre just in your house minding your own business and suddenly your cars on raging fire right by your front door?

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A cluster fuck.

Wow... such ridiculous, hyperbolic bullshit. Kindly take that shit to tiktok with the rest of the 'tards.

Do you write for Sesame Street?

I love the police, because they harass black people instead of me so I can live my life freely.

What is even scarier is some of these commenter arm chair quarterbacks that don't know anything.

@@51hankyspanky7 yeah, unlike ME! Fire expert ova hea

Escape.

Ford Escape, bud.

Ford Escape. That one isn’t a hybrid.

Maybe if you are colorblind

@@mad0uche I've been a certified thermographer for about 20 years. If I set the temp scale from 32f-60f, everything looks hot.

@@rayarsenault4774 Congratulations, you can show this video to a 6 year old and they would be able to tell you the roof, the car, and the street is much hotter than the other surfaces. This is in New Jersey on 8/25, everything IS HOT, hence them skipping PPE and wearing shorts while sniffing the cancerous fumes.

thanks for the play by play, Musberger

@@johnd5398 Clearly you cannot cope with any criticism. But that is what happens when video's are posted and if it looks bad.

@@marcopstal9584 when was the last time you saw any fire video on KZfaq that looked good? By definition, fires occur because things went wrong. The response to something bad can never raise a situation to good; only back to "the way it was when they called us," which is pretty damn close to what these guys did.

@@brandonseyfried1251 That has not been long ago. Some departments and firefighters do thier job as they should, Wearing proper PPE, not waisting time, ...I am sorry but there is no reason wahtsoever for someone without SCBA taking the nozzle when he guy behind has SCBA.

@@marcopstal9584 and that was addressed during the post-incident critique.

Do you deliberately act like a tool or does that come naturally to you?

We're you there? You have zero clue as to what was happening so keep your ignorant comments to yourself, unless YOU are risking YOUR life.

@@melvonmonkers3823 you think youre so important that your negative comments matter? i think not

MY negative comment? Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, AND those who csnt do, criticize, in both cases, YOU. BTW, yes I AM so important, sorry to break it to you.

Its really hard to catch a gasoline engine car or truck fully on fire. So, dont worry about your dads old truck too much. I got hit by a drunk driver in my old truck and it actually ripped a bunch of the front end off and ruptured the fuel line and there was gas puddles and it still didnt go on fire. Truck saved my life tho. If it was a car id be dead. But if I ever see a vid of a green truck on fire and a brown dude with an afro ill know its you. And ill be like its that dude from youtube.

While SCBA use is definitely something to watch, criticizing the rusty water is kind of uncalled for. Maintenance costs money, and I guarantee if every volunteer station *had* the money, they'd have top-end state-of-the-art equipment fully maintained. That money simply doesn't exist in most volunteer districts though, so they make the best of what they have.

@@KillerTruffle Rusty water just needs to be backflished out every 2 weeks or so. Rust chips can render a hose line useless, and your hoseline is your life line. Rusty water implicates that no one is backflushed in a while. Money has nothing really to do with it.

LOL....take a guess.

No. It’s a Ford Escape.

It doesn’t hurt to keep the house safe. Im pretty sure they waited because they wanted to make sure of it not becoming a house fire. That closure saved the house.

Got to get up pretty early in the morning to trick old Chuck.

Most volunteer departments? All of the volunteer stations I've seen in south jersey with the exception of a few were extremely well trained and handled calls for service just as well as the paid guys, a lot of time paid guys were volunteers who climbed up into the paid position. I get your point cause I said the same thing when I saw him on the nozzle, but it isn't most volunteer departments.

How so. Cite local statutes please.

No stupid osha fine you not wearing scott air pack chief wants breath in all toxic gases be asshole needs reality check

I hope that isn't a serious question

Yes.. that orange shit coming out of the car was very hot... almost like fire. They don't get trained to burn themselves to death doing stupid shit.

And how, exactly, are they supposed to do that? Because, as you pointed out the vehicle is ON FIRE.

Pull it away? How long would it take to hook it up and do that? Putting themselves in harms way and wasting the time to do that would make no sense.

Please tell me your question is sarcasm. If not...how in the hell are you supposed to pull a fully involved vehicle away from that structure??? I'm guessing you've never stepped within 100 ft of a burning vehicle even in full turnouts the heat is intense along with the dangers of tires and shocks blowing out in your face this is exactly what needed to be done in this video. Cool the exposure first, hit the vehicle some and back to the house until the 2nd line was in service. Please go back to bed.