Not a sentence I was expecting in a car review. 😂

So funny though the timing and way he said it 😂

No-one's batteries have rare earths in them, except for one manufacturer 15 years ago that put some ytterbium in their LFP cells. So the battery part of that is a pointless claim (except of course that clueless articles claim they do and countering nonsense has become important). No rare earths in the motors presumably means they are using electromagnets throughout, not permanent magnets (as they almost all have neodymium in). I think that's a trend in motor design. PM motors are very good as you get rotor energised without using any energy nor brushes but they do have coasting losses. Being able to turn the rotor off fixes that. Complicated tradeoffs in which is most efficient overall. For powertools PM defo wins. For cars I think it depends on the details.

Try making some regular, long distant journeys in your EV (just a couple of hundred miles from home would be more than enough) this winter and you’ll soon change your tune about the future of transport being electric….

@@ianbailey509 you mean like how they do it in Norway just fine? lel

Good question. Only thing I could think of was better cooling for the brakes. Not sure how much you'd need that on an EV with good regenerative braking.

Aesthetics, because French care only about looks.

Cus the owner thinks it's ugly?

Ask Tesla owners, pretty much every M3 with the wheel covers has them removed. I wouldent. I'm a cyclist, aero is everything 😁

There will be no need to remove it yourself as they will be quickly stolen, because someone else needs them? No, just because they can, its so easy and they will. And of course the car manufacturer is happy to sell you another for 50€ (plus taxes) a piece.

This looks great I like Peugeot 3008 and DS models too

​@@chillfluencer I fail to see how it's Chinese at all

very nice family car

Is it me or is he only trying to be enthusiastic ?. Another paid, sponsored review?. Don't want to upset the people who pay you or do you deals do you.

bZ4X AWD was almost efficient as the Model Y RWD in the big Norwegian Sumer range test (141 Wh/km vs 131) so they are hardly inefficient. Smallish usable capacity yes, inefficient no.

Fully agree. They need to make this but without making it to expensive. My use case is the same as you.

Like I robot?

@@4literv6 yes that’s the one

@@4literv6 and Artificial Intelligence. Crazy how we are actually driving cars like that now

Looks like a toy sci-fi car to me. Very beautiful car. Cars have gotten so beautiful since the electric revolution. Grilles are so ugly.

@@موسى_7 Hyundai design electric cars are really doing it for me. The Ioniq 5 is still a head turner

They replaced it all with magic fairy dust 😂

Just remember rare earths aren't rare as in scarce, they are just rarely mined for on a global scale. Plus cobalt and nickel are by products of iron ore and copper mining mostly.

It is. Depending on the tech used, some EV engine don't use rare earths. And it isn't new, the 10 year old Zoe already didn't use rare earths.

You were right. I'm looking at getting one and even the esprit alpine scenic doesn't have the sunroof. Gutted.

You probably can, considering you could comfortably do so in every single previous generation of the Scenic...

But every scenic before this one had 3 real seats. I've had Scenics for over 20 years but the lack of 3 real seats just lost them a customer and likely many others.

This is also what I came to the comments to find out!

why would you like a School BUS..

Because they do everything better than Stupid Useless Vehicles...@@tommyjakobsen5504

@@tommyjakobsen5504 because it's exactly that - a small bus for a family. It can sit 7 adults in complete comfort, with luggage. It can carry 5 full size bikes in the back. It can do alot of things that an SUV with two seats in the boot can't do. Although it's a car that was conceived almost 30 years ago.

@@mishuliciusExactly right these days the roads are full of look alike 4x4s not much sense there. MPV are a proper family vehicle.

Wheeeeeee hehe 😅😂

With all that extra battery weight presumably ?

Try a Skoda Enyaq. More range, bigger boot and better all round and cheaper than a model Y. It does around 4.5 miles per kwh.

@rogerphelps9939 Lovely car indeed. I'm currently driving a 2015 Nissan Leaf. Enyaq not quite within my price range yet! I'm more hopeful for more family evs coming down the track into the used market.

I also have a 2015 Leaf. It now just does short trips. The Enyaq is a huge step up. Not needed to use public charging yet. @@joelmarcus7958

Or go to the other extreme, and have a split rear tailgate (so you can just open the top half if you want to reach in and get something without everythign else falling out... and then a fold-down lower lip for when you want lip-less access, etc.

Not convinced the heat pump is as big an issue as you think. Renault say it adds ‘upto 9% range below 11c’. So an extra 20 miles in the coldest months, only really a benefit on a journey over 220 miles or so.

Same.. Freaking love it! :D

You must be a GAYLORD, since your choice of color is RED?

@@hanzohanzo1639 yes. A color makes me a gaylord.. great logic. So.. what is the allowed colors?

Exactly!

It would be for looks. If anything they make the car quieter

^ this. really annoying that the UK gets such a watered down version of the interior spec

But we did get the 60kWh battery for the Megane e-tech by default. Not the 45kWh.

Back in the day, the first ones were actually called Megane Scenic.

The issue is more how greedy they are with functionalities on the basic trim. Other brands offer so many more extras (e.g heat pump) by default. With the Megane e-tech, the heat pump is only available on the most expensive trim😕

Used to be the EPA, now it is probably NTHSA, as well as Renault got their ass kicked in the US. The Renault 10 was a nice car.

who is telling you that it is an underrated brand, it is an overrated brand, I say this for those who know what a super car is.. ok, have a good time..

Ok, they are on to make the wheel alloy more streamlined, that's also why the handles have been made flush, so to reduce drag increasing the mileage. If you want to enjoy the whole alloy design, then you remove them. Simplez-tch.

I do love the back armrest :))

Not enough affordable family size EVs. Sadly I doubt this will be that affordable. £40,000-£50,000?

Hmm - not sure about 'huge' - it's about the size of a VW Golf (length-wise anyway - not sure about height or width).

Out 14yo keeps complaining he can't seat behind me in the Megane e-tech, and I'm only 1.7cm tall.

V2G is something that has been talked about by car manufacturers and energy suppliers as a win-win for everyone, the technology exists and tests have shown it works well... and yet it has stalled and the excitement been allowed to die. A great shame.

@@broadsword6650 Absolutely! I freely admit it was over a decade ago now, but I seem to recall even the Zoe was touted with it. The down side was no one was really sure if betamax or VHS was going to win the day, and well, I for one didn't find that the Zoe worked for my needs, and then... what about the actual bidirectional charger? Fast forward, what, let's say six or seven years and Mégane was definitely touted a V2 capable. I'm 90% sure both Johnny Smith and 'our man' Bobby Lou even said the same in the press release and/or their respective test drives, but! Is it available on the Mégane? Nope. Thus, is it coming on this Scenic or have Renault (and others) simply given up on this technology? ...as a layman in this field/industry, I don't understand what the delay is. Being able to get an inverter to flip the power outta ya cigarette lighter to power ya laptop etc has been around for bloody ages! So using the same basic premise to have ya car output 7kw to power ya house during the day, and charge over night (key: from the same bidirectional charger) shouldn't be beyond the car manufacturers and/or the manufacturer of the car chargers - should it? Yet, other than the wallbox quasar 2 and some VERY! Muted suggestions that Kia, Hyundai and Renault just need to "switch it on" via an over the air update, the general public is left looking at their belly button fluff 🤣

@@matbowden9156 It seems to be an issue for the utility companies rather than the car companies. Vehicle-to-load (for a single appliance rather than a whole house), is available in many EVs, but vehicle-to-grid has not yet been implemented, despite having been possible with Nissan Leaf for years. I know Octopus has successfully trialed it, and the customers involved in the trial say it worked with no problems and it saved them a lot of money. The pandemic seems to have derailed the trial, so fingers crossed it can get back on track soon.

@@broadsword6650 ...be nice to get a Quasar 2 wallbox vs the one that was supplied on the leaf trial though, wouldn't it? I don't think the bottle neck is the utility company myself, more the "red tape" but this is of course pure speculation If you are connected to the grid you've already got a standing charge. If you consume energy, you get charged. So it stands to reason that should you not actually be consuming any energy (you went on holiday for example) you would still get hit with the standing charges, but no (or very little) usage, for keeping ya fridge running, perhaps. Equally, if ya car is powering ya house, so V2H, what does ya utility company care? As long as there is no risk of feeding back into the grid itself (you have to be able to isolate your solar panels) so you don't electrocute anyone, but I'd "guess" V2G takes that up a level, and involves "all the red tape" as that would allow the utility company to set up VPP (Virtual Power Plants) where loads of EV's are strung together and used in periods of high demand. Again, our man Bobby has spoken about this (years ago) so my "guess" is red tape vs technical limitations But! Putting in a wallbox/charger at home is still what, a grand? Probably two these days... So why put in a regular charger if (example) six months from now, I can simply buy the car with the bidirectional charger thrown in as part of sale? Anyway, I feel like we want/are asking the same thing from slightly different vantage points. Let's see if anyone else knows more than us? 👍

@@matbowden9156 I'm having a charger fitted next month. Cost is just over a grand, including fitting. I imagine that it is red tape, as you say, rather than serious technical problems. The cars are ready, the utility companies can make it work, it's just a case of having all the different bits of the supply network talking to one another and agreeing that it's a good to go. But I've been watchingFully Charged and others talking about this for about a decade, have waited for this to be sorted out, and have delayed going EV because of it. I'm not waiting any longer because there's no sign of it being sorted any time soon. If and when it does happen I'll have to spend more cash to upgrade my wallbox