Remember when Flametongue Kavu was considered too good for Modern? Now 3/3 Double strike for R more that can be cheated for free and works as one sided board wipe is ok! Who said that Modern should be affordable?

and the thing is, in a Q&A they said that rather than ban fury you should expect to see creatures with toughness 2. yeah

Fury, Wrenn and Six and Bowmaster shadow ban X/1s completely out of Modern. Fury is definitely the most heinous design of the three. Ban Fury and unleash X/1s.

Modern isn't held hostage by Fury. It's held hostage by MH2.

This evoke cycle was meant to “break” modern. I hate it, but it wasn’t a mistake. It was clearly intentional. I only play commander now. What’s the point of modern if you have print to modern sets? It completely unravels what modern was.

I think a good way to sum up Force of Will is that generally you don't cast it because you want to, you cast it because you have to.

I remember when the difference between modern and legacy was dual lands and free spells...

MH1+2 kinda killed my interest in the format. They made most dork-decks and tribes unplayable which is what I liked to play. But hey, spirits is competetive in pioneer!

It's also just all around sad in my view that half of Rakdos Scam, the entire makeup of the deck even, is from print-to-modern only sets. It's just so far removed from being a 'legacy' format, in the sense of taking powerful elements from previous rotations and combining them, improving them (UW Control, Zoo, Jund, etc.)

I’ll probably end up making a video on this on TapDoubt but the reason this game has rotation in standard is that it was the only way to keep people buying new cards without the power creep that has ruined games like Yu-Gi-Oh. The eternal formats were as good as they were because they weren’t getting cards specifically designed for them. They were either designed by or popularised by the fans, who just wanted to play their rotated cards. Having sets like Modern Horizons or LOTR go straight into these non-rotating formats simply means that there must be power creep. Well, not even creep, power sprint.

i still hate pitch elementals. its like they learnt nothing from phyrexian mana

My main gripe with all these new cards is that the best answer to them is... Themselves. How do you stop a t1 Grief/Fury? By evoking Subtlety/Solitude. Same goes for ring/bowmasters to some extent.

Menahile punishing fire is banned 😂

Endurance and Fury straight up killed off archetypes in Modern

Fury isn’t even a necessary evil of the modern format, it’s just evil. It makes the idea of a creature deck almost impossible while it’s around

Former modern elves player reporting in to say yes I fucking hate Fury it's the worst fucking card ever printed. Now Bowmasters counters my SB shaper's sanctuary and turns it into a board wipe lol. Modern is dead to me.

I think the reason why Fury was underestimated is because 1. People thought the flick/reanimate lines were a meme and you would pitch less than you do. 2. Because of this everyone saw the mana cost as too high. 3. The Bant side of the cycle had flash, which made the other two look worse, even though being so powerful is WHY they're sorcery speed.

I hate to say it but banning Fury still won't make Hierarch playable, as long as W6 is around as well. Not to mention Delighted Halfling exists now too.

I love fancy names for decks because -they actually tell you what they do -I hate using faction names for color combos because it's just so goddamn confusing and vague

I’m one of those die hard merfolk players, I’ve been waiting for fury to get banned for far too long

Pretty much why I've "checked out" of any format with cards that where never legal in Standard. If a card is too strong for Standard, it's too strong for Magic. I will die on this hill.

I think the problem with fury for me is the double strike. The etb is really good but the aggressive body is what makes Rakdos scam so much better than any other color combo. It’s such a fast clock on a removal spell. Getting scammed by grief doesn’t feel as op because the clock isn’t anywhere near as fast.

I have really barely played Modern since Modern Horizons 2 came out. I thought Plague Engineer and Wrenn and Six from MH1 was bad enough for my beloved Elf Deck, but Fury just made it unplayable

I mean, considering that Meathook got booted out of standard for effectively a smaller version of the same crime

I have been playing Modern for literally decades, no I am not a pro tour player, but I would like to think I have some idea of the formats history and a decent understanding of the shifting meta, where certain game pieces have felt unfair. That being said in the entire time I have been playing I have never felt the effects of one set as much as I have felt Modern Horizons 2. The majority of the set has literally redefined how even older decks play because the inclusion of the elementals aside they printed some cards that fit well in older concepts a good examples being Urza's Saga. The elemental cycle needs to go all of them even though cards like subtlety have seen much less use compared to the other 4 it would become a problem if left as the only free casting elemental spell. The problem modern faces currently is that the MH2 cards have created decks that have incredible base power levels, and new tools(Orchish Bowmasters, The One Ring), on their own are powerful effects but when slotted in already powerful archetypes created almost entirely from MH2 Cards, they feel oppressive. I believe this is a problem that will remain as long as the Elemental Cycle remains prevalent in Modern where additional powerful game pieces will feel more and more oppressive because of the already inherently powerful back bone provided by MH2. What should really scare you is what is next, with the inevitable MH3 will eventually be printed, and the power creep having basically become completely unhinged, how to get players excited for another premium priced set, well you beat the last set. What horrific crap will be printed in MH3 to make the already insane cards that came out of MH2 look less powerful? No set should be as game defining has MH2 has been it sets the bar too high and leaves little to no room for growth. You shouldn't feel as though you cant compete unless you go out and spend minimum 400-600 dollars on game pieces. In the last 2 years i would say that the modern format has become stale in that you are almost guaranteed to run into 1 of 5 decks Rakdos Scam, 4 Color Omnath, Mono Green Tron, Izzet Murktide, or Hammer Time...the fact that Old School Amulet Titan made it that high up tells me that the player likely got very good opening hands a number of times as it is entirely possible for that deck to run away with the game on turn 2. WIZARDS THE HEALTH OF MODERN IS POOR WE NEEDS SIGNIFICANT BANNINGS. People aren't making new decks anymore just choosing 1 of 5 obviously more powerful decks and copying them occasionally adding the next newly printed insanely powerful game piece.

Wizards RnD Team: a free 3/3 creature that suppresses small creature decks. I like it. Anyone have any thoughts? Random Wizards employee: give it double strike. Wizards RnD Team: Brilliant.

At least the naming of elementals was hella accurate

WotC: Free spells are bad. Customers: Yes, we know. Obviously. WotC: So we made some more free spells.

Taking a morning shot if Wren and Six comes up too 😂

I’m actually kind of sad. I used to buy a draft booster box of modern horizons 2 to get a hold of fetch lands and this is the most valuable card I pulled from the box. I want to create a commander deck in which I can play it (as I mainly play commander) and to this day I’m completely clueless as to which commander would be a great fit for it. One of my friends even said that while it may be good in modern it is practically unplayable in commander.

I remember buying a playset of alt art Furys at like 2$ each because I play Ponza and thought it might be a workable sideboard card... Happy I did so, hated that it just shoveled out every other top end option

Preach, PK. Fury does so much to the format that isnt printed on the card. By forcing out smaller creature decks, you empower everything held in check by those decks. With its absolute fail-state (hard cast full retail) being the best FTK ever conceived, it pushes its way into Midrange fights and homogenizes the format (further playing off that reduction in strategic diversity). With it playing into Feign Death effects, it gives Scam 8 pieces to assemble the fast “combo” start that pushes the necessary interaction to stop it as low to the ground as mathematically possible (often times being the other pitch elementals). Format is worse with Fury in it.

You mentioned that legacy storm is unaffected by Fury. It feels way overdue for Seething Song to be unbanned in modern. Having a powerful storm deck in modern would help to keep fury in check.

I really want to play a green white x deck in modern again but yeah it’s rough out there. I miss the day I could just curve mana dork into lingering souls dork and just start spamming township for wins. It sounds mad but I’ve been playing lorcana of all things to get my fill of just mid range grind fests. Outside of draft, it feels like fomenting mtg has been loosing for years. Even in standard the power level is high enough to make top deck wars were grindy strategies get to shine super rare.

I agree fury is a problem and limits deck building creativity

Somehow this beats "old man yells at clouds". Jokes aside, more than just fury being this premiere removal I think free spells in general are a bit of an issue in modern. Perhaps it's because I think we should move to fair Magic a bit more while modern has gone to a place where it's T1 deck is called "Scam"

I've been saying it for almost a year! I've made a video about it, and I'll always stand by it. BAN ALL 5 ELEMENTALS and Modern will be fixed and mix up the meta! Modern is "Baby Legacy" and we don't need that in Modern. I love Modern, but it's too pricey and there are far too many "Free" spells.

love how when this card was spoiled everyone thought it was the weakest

"When in doubt, use zombies. When that doesn't work, use more zombies. That fury killing your creatures? its actually fueling your graveyard. When that graveyard is full, you Empty The Pits at the end of your opponent's turn and swing big. That is a strat that has almost never failed me. Still get destroyed by flyers though." - Casual Zombie Player

I never thought I'd long for a time when Tron and Amulet Titan were the most bullshit someone could pull on you. By this point they might as well unban Splinter Twin. The cowards.

What I don't understand is how MTG gets design so wrong, while Pokemon, which has been going on almost as long, you can still use cards from 20 years ago and they're still viable and usable because the power creep is nowhere near as bad.

I really dislike the pitch evoke elemental just as a concept. But the absolute worst part is how much more expensive it (and ragavan) made modern. Modern Horizons 2 came out, reprinted a bunch of fetchlands to make modern more affordable and then instantly made every single deck about $1000 to play because you need playsets of mythics like ragavan and pitch elementals

Grief is the worst of the worst. Fury kill aggro decks, Grief all kind of decks

I play pioneer, and honestly, I'm so sorry for all of you who play modern. It must suck to lose that format with all those decks you love, but now are unplayable due to one fucking set. I can't imagine what would I do if something like that happened to my format. I'm actually scared for the day Wizards decides to create Pioneer Horizons. I hope you'll can get someday a fixed modern, or another format that resembles it (maybe someday you will get a fan created format that bans all MH/MH2/upcoming MH3 cards and it will be popular enough to become official someday).

Grief is a bigger problem than Fury atm. Ripping the counterplay out of the hand is way more oppresive than punishing people for overcommiting to the board. Taking the best 2 cards of your opponents starting hand before they are even able to play and leaving a 4/3 menace behind is stupid. In a normal deck you will have about 4 playable cards in your starting hand so half your options are already gone (most likely the cards that could help you fight that 5 turn clock that just hit the board turn 1). When playing against control there was always the dynamic of "how many threats do i need to commit to the board for the control player to activate the boardwipe". Yes Fury doesnt need the mana commitment but i think the fury hard cast (if you cant force them to use use the evoke) is the move that will win them the game.

Grief wouldn’t be as big a problem if it was only on the draw. When you mulligan to six, the opponent take two of those cards and has a 3/2 menace on board, it makes a lot of games unplayable. Then you can’t use draw spells to get out of it, because they’ll drop a bowmasters the next turn.

The problem is the cycle (on multiple levels). Ban them all.

Most people at my lgs think fury is fine and I’ll never understand their thought process. Im switching to pioneer for a reason. I’m so tired of this stupid card. Also, turn 2 blood moon is dumb… Thanks monkey…

Just call modern the new legacy and that s it. This huge push didn t need to happend. It was a "strategic move "

I recognized I'm biased as a Graveyard based player, but Endurance feels absurdly busted. The fact it has flash, reach, can target either player, and is a 3/4 is way too strong when put together. Make it smaller, drop the flash, or only target one player and it wouldn't be nearly as oppressive.

I quit buying new MTG cards sometime around 2016, but I kept my favorite janky modern "Consecrated Sphinx/notion thief" deck because it's hilarious. The first time my buddy asked me to bring my magic deck over to play, he played a rakdos deck - used thoughtsieze and evoked a grief. Turn 5 i passed my notion thief to him with sphinx in hand. He evoked a fury to kill the notion thief in response to my trade trigger. Havent felt the urge to play MTG since. OPTCG is quite good

Say it with me. Free 👏 mana 👏 spells 👏 are 👏 broken. It's like WotC didn't learn anything from Force of Will or the free commander spells like Deflecting Swath.

I just lost to Scam 3 times today at an RCQ. I play Mono Black Coffers. Opponent wins die roll. Opponent Turn 1: Plays swamp, Evokes Fury, Not Dead After All (4/4 Double Striker) My Turn 1: Swamp, Thoughtseize (Terminate, Grief, Thoughtseize, Feign Death) take Grief Opponent Turn 2: Opponent attacks for 8, plays Duathi Voidwalker My outs WERE Sheoldred's Edict or March of Wretched Sorrow My Turn 2: I draw a swamp DEAD This pretty much happened THREE TIMES today, banning Fury in Modern could fix scam a bit. The times they went Turn 1 Grief, reanimate, I actually had a chance and won a match and a few rounds. I Beat 4c Omnath, Lost to Scam, Beat Scam, Lost to Scam, Lost to Scam At one point I was looking around and saw 6/8 players around me (including me on Coffers) playing scam... IT'S A MENACE! I ended up 2/3 and went home to have some spaghetti and watch Pleasant Kenobi videos....

Everyone knew it was gonna be a shitshow, with Fury and all the other free incarnation (to a point). Free spells are always a problem, even bad ones, so a good free spell was certain to be a problem, but that has never stopped WOTC before.

The other thing you didn't state in the video is that FUry is also a big change of tempo, they swipe your board and then can play something, for example 4C color will blow your board and then play a T3feri, or W6, scam can leave mana open to kill another creature with the orcs, or play dauthi.

As a Jund living end player I rely on the power of these free evoke cards not as much fury. I could see a rule change for evoke, maybe adding hexproof so it can’t be recurred. But fury just makes my easy match ups even easier the only real usage is taking out thalias or other creature disruption that could be answered by shriekmaw. However what’s been ruining magic for me lately is this 4 color 5 color nonsense but these decks are weaker to creature decks. My solution ban fury and add new rulings to evoke

Modern isn’t “modern” according to its own mission statement. Lets just split the difference and have Horizons and universes beyond split off to be their own format (you can include commander to pad out sales) and give us back modern where the decks arent decided by wizards. And yes all the current meta decks have been built inside r&d (stoneforge unban right before kaldra? Preordain unban just as murktide falters? Scam?) design by archetype is pissing people off because if you dont play what they want you to play youre gonna have a bad time. Modern shouldnt be a sweaty poker game where your opponent can cast twice as many spells as you because r&d hasnt printed pitch cards that are in your chosen deck archetype, but it is. CONFORM SHEEPLE!!! Also while im yelling at the cloud mishras bauble is just stupid. Just absolutely stupid and annoying.

I don't understand why they didn't just make the evoke mechanic just like it was in lorwyn. Perhaps they could rewrite the rules much as they did with companion. For those who aren't familiar in lorwyn they was creatures with evoke cost that if the evoke cost was paid instead of the normal casting cost then you sacrifice at end of the spells resolving.

If I were in charge of the ban list, I'm hitting the entire Evoke cycle, Force of Negation, Force of Vigor, Ragavan, Murktide, Wrenn and 6, Karn tGC, and Expressive Iteration with a warning against both Bowmasters and The One Ring. That would be the minimum level of bans to get modern halfway healthy. I'm leaving Urza and Yawg alone because they both spawned decks, and Urza got his just desserts with the banning of Mox Opal. I'd at least look at unbanning the artifact lands, Splinter Twin, Blazing Shoal, Punishing Fire, Bridge from Below, Mycosynth Lattice, and Jitte. Shoal is powerful but inconsistent. Lattice isn't good with Karn going on the list. Bridge may still be good, but it's less busted without Hogaak. Twin on a trial run. Punishing Fire and Jitte aren't good in current modern anyway. The artifact lands on a trial basis as well.

Have you tried the black and while pitch elemental deck with ephemerate? It’s tier 2 for sure, but it’s fun.

I've completely stopped playing Modern. At this point they'd have to ban Fury, Grief, Solitude, Urza's Saga, Ragavan, Bowmasters and One Ring before I'm willing to come back.

We need to push for a new format. Only cards printed in Standard set releases should be legal, no supplemental sets, with the current modern banlist, give or take a few cards. Return to the slow trickle of new playables we sometimes from Standard. I bet the format would be meaningfully different than pre MH1 modern with all the decent standard cards introduced since then. Its also meaningfully different from Pioneer because nothing is stopping wotc from injecting that format with power down the road. Standard set releases only and they can never artifically rotate or creep the format

Designers should not be blamed for missteps like this. They could always push for some stupid power crept card or mechanic, or, in most cases, just design a card with only their honest intentions that ends up just being too good. But whatever the case, that card should be PLAYTESTED, And that's where the blame should go. Not to the playtesters themselves but to the process as a whole. You can design a pushed set but it is the playtesting process that can make a difference between just "too good cards" like Questin Beast of Bonecrushing Giant, and busted cards that no one saw coming like Oko.

I agree fury is the most oppressive pitch elemental. The pitch elementals besides maybe blue are the opposite of Force. Force solves an issue in legacy and vintage by keeping combo in check, the elementals in modern are problems. Red dumps on small creatures, black murders hands at a small cost, green makes graveyard strats way worse, white allows you to make pure tapout tempo plays and not be punished by creatures. Modern had a massive card pool and was a hall of fame and was filled with many of the most cards they had ever printed up to point. We aren't talking cards that did well in standard it was only the most stand out cards from any given set that made the cut. Printing a set that is only to be opened by people looking for cards to play eternal formats basically requires that they walk a near impossible design tight rope or just print busted garbage on purpose. Its not just the pitches either look at rag a 1 mana 2/1 that has three upsides?

As someone who plays an off-meta creature deck - nope, Fury is fine. It's one of the few cards I hate seeing against me, but it's a card that is needed to keep swarming creature decks in check. And Surge of Salvation negates it for just W.

The etb effects of the others elementals as instants or sorceries would cost between 1 and 2 mana, but Fury's effect would cost at the very least 3 mana cause dividing damage into multiple targets is strong. That's the problem. You don't need to playtest it, but just to read it to understand.

What I hate most about it is it’s a free removal spell that entirely ignores the Thalia tax. I’d say bowmasters was the final nail in the coffin for DnT in legacy as well

It's kind of sad how the format revolves almost entirely around the modern supplemental sets. 3 of the top 5 decks exist entirely because of the supplemental sets and in the top 10 even historical decks like living end and jund have become supplemental set piles (~1/3-1/2 of the decks being from MH1/2/LOTR). The insane power level of the supplemental sets just completely changed the character of the format. It's hardly an eternal format like it used to be, more like a print to modern showcase.

I honestly think the evoke elementals would be fine if their evoke coat was 1 and their color. Still good but not busted

My bigger problem is with Grief. Double thoughtseize plus a 4/3 menace before you even play a land usually equals no start games. I agree that Fury is a problem, but I've never had a game where Fury made me question why I bothered shuffling my deck. (I still insist on playing Elves from time to time btw)

I want new Boseiju banned in Pioneer and Modern. It eliminates so many cards that help contain unfair decks at essentially no deck building cost except playing green and it opens up 2-4 sideboard slots in decks.

So... Force of Will feels bad to cast for free when you're pitching OP blue spells for it?.. what an argument.. Hierarch doesn't see play since the printing of Wrenn&6.. how is fury the best creature removal ever.. when you have Solitude + Ephemerate.. that can deal with 3 creatures total..

I drafted MH2 when it released. I pulled Verdant Catacombs and Fury. I kept the Catacombs for EDH, I sold Fury for $20 like a week later, and I sold out of Modern before 4C Elementals and other shit took over. I think I made the right decision in the long run.

I will say, as an Ad Nauseam player, I feel the same way about grief as you do about Fury. Turn one thoughtseizing me twice and putting a clock on the field is backbreaking. 😄

The worst thing about Fury is that it is a sorcery effect while its friends from the cycle are flash. FURY DOES NOT HAVE FLASH SO YOU CAN NOT USE IT AT INSTANT SPEED PEOPLE! Fuck

I think im more in line with what aspiringspike said. Grief leads to more non-games than fury, for either the caster or the opponent. The least enjoyable games in magic are the ones with a turn one scammed grief, and that is sad. Id like to see the formate without grief first, but fury would probably get banned sooner rather than later

Yea so the real problem with these Horizon sets are that they introduce far too many powerful cards at once. If they ban Fury/Wrenn, now Ragavan is broken. Then ban Rag now the Yogmoth decks are broken, and so on. New sets literally can’t by definition have cards that compete so each card banned just exposes another broken card from Horizons. The sets themselves as a concept are the mistake not the cards, just dropping so many powerful cards into a format all at once will never allow them to ever correctly evaluate each powerful card individually. it’s impossible to know what the problem cards are in the current context of Modern. It might be that Fury is fine but Grief covers the control match up so hard that they can build the Scam decks for hard anti aggro, or the reverse. Who knows.

Only point i disagree with it "companion being easy to miss" - it is glaringly obvious to any person who played card games, its one more card in the starting hand

With fury in the format, the following decks can never be tier 1, and cannot even get close to the top of tier 2 in modern: merfolk, goblins, humans, zoo, death and taxes, faeries, soul sisters, aristocrats, actual aggro affinity, jund with the old creatures, super friends, martyr proc, junk (jund with lingering souls), tokens, allys, slivers, sui black, red deck wins, kitchen finks/spike feeder combo, stoneblade, my beloved storm deck (which has just been stepped on so hard for so long), and so many more. Modern used to have so many fun cool tribal decks and small creature decks and they just are so miserable to play now. Even the old graveyard decks just got nuked from orbit with endurance existing, like imagine trying to play dredge right now, its laughable. And it's not just fury, it's also solitude, prismatic ending, and the forces before that did the same thing to combo decks, with force of negation and force of vigor making so many decks just unplayable, like storm, lantern control, ACTUAL affinity, ad nauseum, cheerios, the old gifts thopter sword decks, stoneblade, and more. Free spells were a mistake, every time wotc plays with making spells cost dramatically less or free, we get a fury or a treasure cruise or a mental misstep or a g probe or a grief or a force of vigor or a force of negation or a murktide or a crashing footfalls or an eye if ugin or a chrome mox or a simian spirit guide or seething song or rite of flame or anything. It's always a bad idea, and it's not like they just haven't fleshed out that design space, this is magic the Gathering not fucking yugioh, MAKE PEOPLE PAY MANA FOR SPELLS HOW MANY FAILURES AND RUINED PRO TOURS AND RUINED FORMATS AND MASS PLAYERS LEAVING MAGIC UNTIL YOU LEARN, MANA IS WHAT MAKES PEOPLE ACTUALLY PLAY MAGIC. People have been yelling this at WOTC for decades and they just refuse to listen

I just don't understand what the point of modern is once you have sets printed directly into it. The day they print "Pioneer Horizons" is the day the format goes in the bin for me.

I wanted to start playing modern and when I saw what was actually played, I lost every interest in it. For me it feels like that the evoke elementals (mostly Fury and Grief) are just hindering me to actually play a Deck on a "budget". Every deck that I would have build would just crumble from either of the scam shenanigans. I also know of other people that feel the same and just wouldn´t touch modern with a 10ft pole, so to speak, because of the elementals and some other cards like W6 or bowmaster/ring from lotr. The worst part is that wizards had an amazing idea with Modern Horizons, by getting reprints into modern and making it easier to finally get into modern, but they just couldn´t help themself and hat to powercreep modern into oblivion. The worst part is that many people seem to enjoy this new legacy-lite era of modern, which feels weird to me as a bystander looking into the format.

I know it's almost entirely irrelevant now, but Fury is also yet another example of how bad people are at evaluating cards. It was by far the least valued elemental of all five for a good month and a half after the release of MH2. Even Subtlety topped it in price.

Honestly this video can be boiled down to Fury shut down tribal/ little creature decks which is a sentiment I would take more seriously if these decks weren’t already underperforming pre MH2 and even pre MH1 to a degree. Like at some point we have to ask, would these decks realistically be able to keep up with the current modern landscape even if we got rid of fury? If not then we have to question the current strength of those style of decks. Were these style of deck bound to eventually Peter off no matter what OR is there an innovation issue among players? Are players simply not taking enough time to make key changes to these creature decks to adjust to the current landscape and instead relying on popular brewers like Aspiringspike or a top performing decklist at a big tournament to do all the work for them?

I'm a diehard red mage to the grave and I'll be the first to let you know a 4 splittable damage 0 drop 3/3 WITH DOUBLE STRIKE is way too good. It's kept me out of modern almost singlehandedly. I love Bowmasters personally since it's easily killed and keeps degen decks in check (no free cards!) without punishing your opponent for playing the game. The difference between "broken" and "powerful" is Fury's free and Bowmasters is 2 mana.

I’m guilty of thinking fury has flash too. For the longest time I thought it did and that’s because the card is just so absurdly powerful it almost feels like the lack of flash was an oversight 😅

I always thought they should get haste and then exile at end of turn if you evoke them

I still play taxes in modern because I just always have and will always try to make it work. I’ve had to switch to playing 0 x/1s in the mainboard and to UW taxes specifically to give me ways to fight free evoke spells (like Lavinia and meddling mage.) It’s basically the only creature deck I’ve found in the meta that can actually stand a chance.

I've always played control and in the last few years I've messed around with creature decks and wanted to play more toolbox decks like b/g yawgmoth and g/w heliod company. I got furied too many times and retreated back to control. Getting blown out for free on t3 and my opponent still being able to follow up with a threat like a big goyf or omnath just felt so bad.

Fury is BROKEN!!!! Completely destroys so many aggro decks. They should either ban it or start unbanning really powerful cards like Splinter Twin, Birthing Pod or faithless looting.

$8 AUD for a fucking draft pack is something to be petitioned about…

I want to preface this with the fact that I love your content, and respect your opinion. You are more than welcome to say I'm full of bullocks, but here is my opinion. I think grief is much oppressive than fury because it makes non-games especially turn 1 on the play. Also I think most decks that are punished by evoke fury were in a sense up to no good. There exists cards to tame the beast of a card that is fury but people don't want to change a 10 year old list to keep up with a fast and powerful format. And my last point is all the games death and taxes players find miserable because of fury are repaid by the games that our opponents live under thalias tax and a swift wastelands punishment.

It's not just fury. Modern is so broken now with some much power crept bs. Wrenn&Six, Force of Negation/Vigor, Orcish Bowmasters, Teferi Time Ravele, Grief. You can't play small creatures anymore it's completely ruined.

I didnt turn off the video because i wanted to hear you moan....pause. I also absolutely abhor Fury and to a lesser degree grief and all the elementals. MH2 in general is a abscess to me on the way i enjoy the game of magic. Its left me no choice but to also run MH cards specifically MH2 and elementals.

WOTC will see this and think: Let's make a Force of Will that you can play frim the companion zone, yeah, that's the ticket

As someone who loves playing Affinity I hate fury so much but I think if they banned fury that there is another potentially broken interaction. Grief + ephemerate is a 3 for 3 on turn 1 that let's you see your opponents hand 2 turns in a row. And since you're already playing white in the deck you might as well throw some solitudes in

Good vid, valid points. Hard disagree about deck names though. So many aren't descriptive in the least. Neither is scam. Half of competitive decks could be called that, they're all trying to scam on some part of the limitations of the game.

I don't think that modern can be salvaged anymore, my whole playgroup moved to legacy because it's just all the degeneracy with none of the interaction. At this point it's close enough to legacy, and legacy is a more capable and enjoyable format.

Hot take… Spells should have mana costs

Hot take time. Long time modern player, got out during eldrazi winter and recently dipping my toes back in. I am glad those decks are nearly unplayable. Cavern of Souls and Aether Vial suck to play against in any blue control deck and completely cutting out a counterspells (that already have the downside of timing restrictions) as removal for a complete free roll with Cavern is just as idiotic as the free 3 for 2 that Fury is.

Play Boosters = The Death of Draft. It's awful. And likely more expensive. God Damn it.