It's because they like to let their customers do the testing rather than fork out for R&D. When it goes tits up, the item gets discontinued.

Me to futaba has always been pretty straight forward For me anyways I have a problem with spectrum stuff my brain don’t comprehend spectrum but comprehend Futaba I just don’t understand it and as far as programming a Traxxas controller forget it I use them dumbco raidios 🤣🤣

@@lanewhite6320 Traxxas has still not fixed steering end-points on their latest 4-channel TSM receivers ( TRX6533 ), which is disappointing. BTW: the bluetooth module is quite handy but the app is confusing.

Glad we could help Neil and thanks for watching the videos! If you ever need anything, you can shoot us a comment here. -Brett

Hey Rich! Thanks. -Brett

As it was with the 7PX, that is their premium/flagship radio system. They have other models that don't require such deep pockets to purchase. Those cheaper models are most likely more desirable to use, due to fewer unnecessary features and associated complications. Fewer complications = easier racing = more fun.

You need to check out the Flysky Noble Pro

Or Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

Have you tried VRC? RC pro am was awesome when I was a 80's kid lol.

tell us you bought the noble instead without telling us.

Some people can afford things you can’t afford.

When 11 comes out it be on sale 😆

I like having multiple remotes even my mid grade ones I only have one or 2 on emn

Gotta agree. Nothing against showcasing a new transmitter for their sponsored racers but many of us won’t even consider this. It’s nice but at this price, it’s pretty much overpaying for the same features you’d get in the FlySky Noble NB4. Nothing against Futaba and granted their QC is much more consistent than FlySky but when a competitor can offer many of the same features of the 7PXR at a greatly reduced price point… They should be concerned.

@@smolscale $$$$ no problem it’s the principal

Cool idea. Maybe on a crawler? How would you do it, that's so many channels to fill. -Brett

@@AMain_Hobbies Good question, I'm sure you'll come up with something cool you guys always do.

im using 8 channels

The transmitter works universally as a usb controller, like a playstation or xbox controller would. So unfortunately, there is no list of compatible games. -Brett

That's what Traxxas gives you (kind of) and it's terrible in my opinion; notifications and calls popping up on the screen.

@@alimaleki217 The Traxxas setup is hardly more than a telemetry setup, and not a great one at that. I'm talking about system integration. You could even take it as far as making the connection wireless so your pit person can make on the fly adjustments and monitor telemetry while you focus on driving the car.

@@aegixxer1 That’s why I said “kind of”! Maybe one day but it I’m not sure the market for such a product is big enough for Futaba and others to make the investment. Plus, I can’t imagine too many people are willing to pay $800 for a transmitter that doesn’t have a screen!

@@alimaleki217 I know its nothing we'll see anytime soon, or possibly ever, but one of my arguments is that they could actually make the transmitter more affordable by not having to source a screen. Battery life could be improved as well since the phone or tablet would have its own battery to power the screen, taking a pretty significant load off the transmitter battery.

Hmm, not that I know of. It's pretty particular to use Futuba gear with the system. -Brett

@@AMain_Hobbies ok just wondering because the futaba gyd550 stated to use futaba servos and I tried a reved servo and it worked good. Want to use the extra channels that this provides but don’t want to get stuck to just using futaba gear. Maybe a test you guys could do?

I believe so, but while limiting some functions, like expandability. -Brett

@@AMain_Hobbies Thanks Brett, that's very helpful

We're not sure and it's not mentioned on the Futaba page. You can use your finger or a stylus on the screen if that helps. -Brett

@@AMain_Hobbies I appreciate your reply. Thank you.

AMain offers the Affirm Financing Program: www.amainhobbies.com/faq-affirm-financing/i289 -Brett

They offer PayPal “Pay in 4” too. Thought about that a few times.

I did the pay pal credit and got me a M17 special edition (Gold) model. Thanks Amain Hobbies

Batteries aren't very expensive, especially if you get something after market. I got this radio as part of a package deal with a LosI DBXLE 2.0 for a very good price, it's absolutely superb.

4pm supports TFHSS SR rx (sbs model), so the entry level can do what the top model can do, at least before this new 10px that introduces f4g. The servos for SSR is a technical requirement, need a narrow center pulse to actually work. Any servo with the same center pulse will also work -- it doesn't need to be Futaba. That said, SR mode with an SR servo is almost 800fps (vs Sanwa 384fps) pretty "direct"! But then many racers turn their stuff down so it drives like a traxxas-level latency anyways 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@malATX Yes, that is a fair point on the 4PM. But that still does look at the bigger picture. That one receiver on that radio that supports that feature. There are a multitude of Sanwa receivers support SSR, multiple that support SXR, and a couple that support SUR. And all of those SSR receivers are compatible with all but their budget tier radios. You arent limited on running a faster servo response mode by virtue of radio and receiver tier to the extreme level that Futaba does. As far as the Servos go, i run ProPerformanceRC servos in all my cars, i can run either Futaba SR or Sanwa SSR/SXR, without issue. So thats moot for me. But in general, there are multiple SSR compatible Servos out there, from several manufacturers of varying size and torque specs. As of yet, outside of ProPerformance, i know of no third party Servos advertised as being Futaba SR compatible. And to that end, even ProPerformance doesnt come right out and say it will work. Also, i think it is worth pointing out (not that anyone will ever read our comments, ROFL!) that there is a dramatic difference between resolution, and response time. All the resolution in the world wont helps if there is significant signal path delay in getting it there. I also believe there is a difference in the way that Futaba and Sanwa calculate their frequency response. Where Futaba counts each rise and fall of the signal as a frame, where as Sanwa only counts a single full cycle. So if it were apples to apples it would be 800 to 768, or 400 to 384. As for response speed, no one turns down the response time, or increase latency as you say. What they do is turn down the transit speed of the servo to calm it down and help remove jitters. So if you happen to lose grip on your wheel, the car doesnt slam back and forth, as the servo tracks the wheel shake on the return spring. The response time of the servo stays as fast. It is just reducing the transit speed. Some people also do this with dual rate, but you end up with some funky ass curves. So if you want more linearity, you reduce the speed. Usually it is a fast outbound speed, with a slower return to center speed. And you tune that parameter based upon the track layout. Like adding more return for a switch back. If you use a Sanwa Servo, and utilize SSL, you can actually do range of motion tuning on the servo itself through the entire sweep range. At the end of the day, this is why we have choice to get what we want in terms of feel. And Spektrum is there to remind us of how good we have it. LOL!

@@bigbuckoramma cycle time definitely matters -- it defines the longest possible delay. If your input is right after a frame, it has to wait until the next frame. This causes a lot of jitter. The higher the frame rate, the lower the max jitter. As for latency, both futaba and sanwa have excellent latency. But, humans are great at adapting to latency, but not great at dealing with jitter. You can see this easily in e sports. I'm sure you can't go wrong either way! Regarding all that out/return speed stuff, I just use my fingers🤷🏻‍♂️

Yep, you’ve described your comment perfectly.