She should make a relaxation audio for playing when the bombs drop. Just some herbal tea and her voice. Ahhh, so peaceful (blinding flash).

She’s calmly and lovingly explaining to a cherished young person how they’re going to be incinerated with love

I haven't read a book in 30 years, I read this 400-page book in 4 days. Incredible information as bleak and terrifying as it is, a must read to understand how close we are to destruction.

Tuesday afternoon, June 14,1983, I took a nap and a had a dream concerning a nuclear attack on Honolulu Hawaii. When I woke up from the nap a dark aberration darted high across the bed room wall in front of me. I was 20 at the time. I still remember this dream in detail.

I just got done with the audiobook. It’s astonishing, frightening and well worth it. Buy this book and share it!

Annie Jacobsen: She is the ultimate Horror/ASMR/Bedtime Story Narrator. Nothing this horrible ever sounded so good.

Does anyone else find her voice very relaxing? I mean she's talking about the end of the world and I'm still like... ☺️

A shuffle through Annie's book case collection would no doubt be more than an eyeful.

How wonderful to listen to a well-spoken, articulate, knowledgeable person on possibly the most important subject of our time. I can’t listen to people drunk with emotions, which is most people in mainstream media and to a lesser extent, KZfaq and the like, and people in general. I applaud sober people who speak clearly and intelligently and who don’t spew their emotional energy all over the listener. High praise to Annie and my deepest thanks to her for sharing the facts of such a deeply serious matter in such a calm and reasonable way. Thanks Annie for making palatable, what is unthinkable. I plan to get the audio of this woman’s remarkable book.

Even in Canada, the US owns a lab in many upper air stations with air scrubbers that detect radioactive isotopes. These filters are changed regularly and the difference in time between detection between locations allows triangulation of where the isosopes came from. In this way, nuclear incidents or tests above ground cannot be hidden. The Americans can find the location of any such event anywhere on the planet.

It’s going to happen the only question is when. Humans will never learn not to destroy themselves. If someone has something that you desire and can’t get the response is to take it by force by many people. The reason countries have military’s is not about defending themselves it’s about imposing their countries will on others that think differently.

Finished reading it last week, is fascinating and frightening

I got the audio book...and, as former USAF Intelligence, I was amazed at the authenticity, the detail, and the horror. It is definitely worth reading or listening to.

If we were going to strike N. Korea, wouldn’t we use submarines? Just curious because Annie describes a scenario where we would “go over pole” and Russia using ICBM’s.

I’m reading her book now. It’s absolutely eye opening and mind blowing. We are so under prepared for nuclear war.

I grew up in the Soviet Union and we had a nuclear underground concrete shelter next to every school and drill what to do in case of nuclear attack. I don't see any nuclear shelters in major cities in the US, and that nuclear shelters should be constructed and ready asap!

She has an amazing voice

Great but terrifying book. Absolutely terrifying

Bought her book on audible and on amazon to try to support her for doing such great, detailed work. Looking forward to reading it (but at the same time not, lol)

I listen to this when im stressed. Crazy relaxing voice.

I've ordered the book. I've been morbidly fascinated by this subject since I was nine years old when I saw The War game, Threads (the definitive film on nuclear war) and The day after when they were aired by the BBC and ITV in 1985. I have several books on the subject. I look forward to reading it. Thank you Annie. x

"The only way to win is not to play" is a good quote from a movie, but apparently we have some rogue actors out there saying "if can't get what I want, then we all die." Trying to squirm out of MAD for "reasons". As if they are holding the globe hostage. In that case, we die free.

She mentions The Day After. British film Threads is much more terrifying. I saw the ABC movie the nite it was telecast, Threads a few years later at a small boutique theater. Threads was, IMO, much more realistic.

Awesome podcast. Just ordered her book. 👌🏻

Love your library background. Ive got something similar going.

" My only friend the End " Jim Morrison/The Doors 1967 ⏰️

I think I’m in LOVE 🥰 with Annie ❤️😂

Fascinating topic. By the end of the video, you will be well informed.

Sounds like an interesting book. I'll check it out. She's certainly hyping it up; many many interviews on KZfaq.

Have hypersonic missiles changed the timing?

I'm buying this book.

Things to think about.......container based nukes, hypersonic nukes, dirty bomb nukes smuggled in from the " open border" Or satelite nukes already in orbit...just waiting. That would be truly destructive because of the EMP . I don't think that an ICBM will be the first use choice

The closest we came to nuclear war was during the Cuban Missile Crisis when an insane US navy captain attacked a Soviet submarine by dropping depth charges on it. That was an act of war and the Soviet sub commander and political officer, between them, were authorized to launch a nuclear torpedo if attacked by the US navy. The commander wanted to launch the nuke at a US carrier and the political officer disagreed so the carrier didn't get nuked. Also, the Soviet commander in Cuba was cleared to use Frog tactical nuclear missiles to defend Cuba against a US invasion. If JFK had given the order to start WW III by invading Cuba, it would have gone nuclear in the first hour. That is worth considering with all the neocon lunatics advocating a NATO attack on Russia. The lesson of the Cuban Missile is that there may not even be a conventional phase to WW III. It could go nuclear immediately. The other close call was when the US was doing a nuclear exercise called Able Archer, in 1983, that the Soviets took for the real thing so they had their nuclear forces on high alert. Then the Russians had a glitch with their early warning system that gave them a false warning of a US ICBM launch. There was a Soviet officer with orders to launch on warning but he disobeyed orders and waited for conformation. He lost his job but he saved the world. The lesson of that close call is that it is dangerous to cause the other side to put their nuclear forces on high alert.

Why do a handful of people get to decide our death? Today a few people brought us all closer to death. I do not give psychopaths' power over my life.

Love it how she starts out talking about the end of civilization with a smile on he face.

Excellent stream/interview. I might challenge a couple of the detail comments, lol. But I have ordered all the books. Brilliant stuff. Everyone should read this stuff. More value than watching the Kardashians.

For such an expert there are a few holes in her information. The US has Attack Subs following every single Russian Sub. Not that the Russian sub-fleet ventures out much anymore. Also, we would not use ICBMs on North Korea. We would use SLBMs (Submarine Launched Ballistic Missiles) and/or nuclear-capable cruise missiles.

I have only read two of her books. But she is an excellent writer.

She’s brilliant

Honestly the best book on the nuclear subject I have ever read

50% miss rate by interceptors? Maybe - it's a tough gig. However these interceptor missiles exist to guard against one or two launches from rogue states - generally seen as a more likely threat. No one in their right mind would think that 44 interceptors can deal with a massive Russian or Chinese attack - why is this even brought up as a serious issue?

Hi, in your opinion what is the likelihood of a nuclear war? And which country is most likely to use nuclear, given the most recent developments in IRAN-ISRAEL?

What's missing here is that AGEIS. SM6 and SM3 are a shield and there are lots of them. On top of that you're missing the energy based systems.

I'm reading this book at the moment. It's terrifying.

I wish the host would have held up Annies book so i know what it looks like ? So i could buy it !

Her book ( and the inevitable movie) are important because of the conversations that will result. It’s important to realize how implausible her sequence of events is. NK launches a single ICBM at DC, and the US responds in minutes with scores of minuteman missiles that must overfly Russian airspace. This initiates a massive Russian strike, and a subsequent massive US response. It is implausible to the point of absurdity that our military hasn’t simulated many scenarios that avoid this escalation chain. What about our response coming from air-launched cruise missiles or SLBMs? There will certainly always be a US boomer submarine in the western Pacific. One could even imagine a scenario in which the US responds with a massive conventional attack

I recommend her book, very clever woman.

Isn’t this timing problem part of Putins argument for not having NATO in Ukraine?

What is the point of briefing the president if he is senile?

I guess she has to sell her book. I remember in the 80's this was a daily topic (unfortunately it' coming back). We've known since 1954 (Castle Bravo) about the effects. Happy sales AJ!

I read her book a few weeks ago. Fascinating, terrifying, etc. The problem I had with the scenario was as 36:00, the idea the US would fire missiles that fly over Russia in order to hit North Korea. They could just launch SLBMs from the Pacific.

Glad she is talking about the fallacy of the current U.S interceptor system. I can't believe how many people believe the interceptors are a credible defense in their current guise.

Interesting talk. But I question that someone would defy order to launch with a lower probability than a powerball win.

Wow excellent discussion. I wasn't aware that we don't have a separate doctrine for a rogue state nuclear missile attack. I would have thought the response would have been a massive air and sea attack with Conventional weapons. This assumes only one or two missiles were fired at the U.S. homeland. If the president does not have that discretion under laws passed to do such a thing...that is horrible. 80 ICBM missile as a response is nuts.

China also has mobile launch platforms for missiles such as the hypersonic DF-41 even.

Is this book on audible

Never read such a stressing book!

The book "Fail safe" from 1963 is very interesting. In this story the cause is a computer error which sends a bomber squadron to Moscow.

Her book is fantastic. growing around the U.S Air Force , I thought about WW-3. 😮

She needs to include y'all facts about what the positive are of nuclear weapons and treatments for exposure like ARS or ARP to truly understand and try and affect change. Listen to Ryan MacBeth.

Sarah Connor speaking - great interview.

Prepare for the end, so scary

She sounds exactly like The Boss from MGS 3: Snake Eater which makes this so much more credible

She reminds me of the character, Professor Groeteschele from the film Fail Safe. BTW what are the odds that years ago, the Chicoms and Russians haven't slipped nukes into the country via lead lined shipping containers, and they're just parked around the country in major cities and near military bases? Port and customs officials can't be bought off to look the other way?

WERE AT THAT POINT TODAY.

Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth -luke 21

She should do an instructional nuke disaster painting, kind of like Bob Ross, but with a not too happy ending.

What about all the sea creatures that have been proven useful for secret missions?

As for interceptors - - - per Dr. R. Wagner - - - who was involved in the initial interceptor program - - - the weapon used to knock down the incoming physics package was also a nuclear weapon not to blow the incoming physics package up but through radiation the physics package would be neutralized. so the interceptor need only to come close by about two miles in diameter. the issue was that the interceptors would cause more nuclear issues than not. then Wagner and his team was tasked with creating physics package shields. at that point he quit. Per Wagner, as for EMP, its 50,000 feet over Kansas and unless the computer(s) is(or) hardened (covered in billow pads) they are all gone. any auto made without a computer will run, the rest won't - - - anything with a vacuum tube is fine.

🤗Annie

I find her voice to American quite slow. However enjoyed her interview immensely 😊

Is there anyone besides me who want to have dinner not only for great conversation but to check out the bookshelf behind her??

How can Submarines get information when they are under water ?

So much for Dr.Strangelove!😮

I’d love to know more about nuclear torpedoes.

wonder if annie has seen the bbc film war book?

Smart Author, she wrote a book on people's fears during a time when everyone is afraid. I love Nukes, it's going to suck if you ever hear the "Tang" sound that they create as metal explodes, but just for a fraction of a second. Seriously, don't worry about the Nukes, the day will come when they will be used, all weapons made eventually get used. Instead think about what you are going to do in the event you are lucky or unlucky enough to live?

The fact that there Still have been numerous close calls tells us we’re doomed. Right?

I like her background.

I saw a tour video on one these missile silos they showed the steps and old technology they take to lunch minute man missiles. They use large floppy disk not the 3 whatever inch or the 5 what ever inches. They use larger ones i don't remember how much bigger but bigger than the 5 inch ones got two persons at the old computer from the 60s or something they have two nobs they have to turn at unicen then the missiles will start do the sequence to launch. That was interesting how its done then and still today it called a fail safe i believe why they still use that old technology.

Um, does she mention hypersonic missiles launched from a sub? Those have made it a whole new ball game. Sorry, I had to quit 1/3 of the way through, she was lulling me to sleep.

She needs a netflix show

It would be 33 minutes that number!

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What is the chance we cat nucleaire war

I thought our limited but technically capable ABM systems, like THAAD, were built to deal with the rogue launch. The successes of the Patriot missile and Iron Dome indicate a refined American capability to solve the challenges of interception, although not with 100% assurance of success. Ballistic missile submarines do have to be concerned about the ASW capabilities of their opponent. The P-8 aircraft, US Navy and Coast Guard surface vessels, SOSUS type systems, and attack submarines are threats to ballistic missile submarines. If a ship with SM-6 missiles is within a close range, interception of the missile in boost phase is possible. More likely the launch coordinates can be established and missiles directed to that location. A ballistic missile submarine would have to make a choice about a curtailed salvo or fire missiles until it is destroyed. The closer the sub is to the adversary's shore, the more likely the sub is hit before it can launch all its missiles.

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Not if when

That's what my grandpa taught me when I was a child

How come Nuclear Winter didn't happen from all the Nuke tests?

When you think about what kind of people sitting in the position to push the button around the world,it’s outright scary..!

This chick could lull me to sleep with tales of the apocalypse.

When it comes to sensor technology, we've got infrared technology in our backpocket!😮

It was Madame de Pompadour, lover of Louis XV of France, said "After me the flood" in French of cause.

It’s fascinating reading and a real eye opener but no book ever stopped a war from taking place. Unfortunately we are dealing with leaders who have no morals or any compassion towards their fellow man/ woman. Deterance does not work in reality.

Annie Jacobsen has that throaty, husky, relaxed voice that makes the most horrendous end of the World scenario seem so matter-of-fact and peaceful....🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿😎🇮🇱

Tell Annie Thank You. What the "Ostrich-People" don't admit is that even today, after all the Strategic Arms Reductions of the 'Nuclear Club', Global Thermonuclear War would be a Near-Extinction Level Event (E.L.E.) for Terran-Humanity. Also, I had it explained to me in the late 1970s that The U.S. shifted from a Second-Strike (Launch after Initial Attack) to Launch on Warning due to Soviet ICBMs becoming more accurate (Sub-500yds C.E.P.) & the Soviet Plan for a Time-On-Target (T.O.T.) Attack Scenario (Preemptive or otherwise). If you wait for your Enemies' Inbound Attack to begin hitting Target to physically verify a Nuclear Attack & your Attacker achieves a T.O.T of 05min. Or Less, you won't be able to Respond. GOD Help us All. Now then: Opinions are like Assholes, and I guess I just showed mine. Also, I agree that Launch On Warning is a Grevious Mistake & a Dangerous, Misleading Policy. I pray for the Men & Women of the Armed Forces for the burden of executing a Nuclear Attack Response. GOD Bless, Love and Protect the Peoples of Earth. Good Night.

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