Awd slides are just so good I can watch rally clips for hours

bro the 2 "awd" subarus you put were rwd converted drift cars

ONE WHEEL DRIVE 👹

FWD understeers, RWD Oversteers and AWD does both, you just get to decide which one you want to do 😂

Bro showed 2 rwd swapped Subarus LOL

People who hate on fwd never mastered the art of lift off oversteer. Anyone can oversteer in a rwd car and call it day but doing it in a fwd car takes a lot of skill because you have focus on the accelerator pedal and less on the brakes, whilst in a rwd vehicle if you try to power through a corner you’re going to spin out.

The funny thing about FWD is that because it's inherently understeery, FWD race cars are built so that they're oversteery on entry and mid-corner, basically anywhere the car isn't putting down power (based on what I read and sims lol). It makes for some fun driving experiences where you throw the car into a corner at speeds you never thought it could do, and it will just rotate. RWD is king though.

Hyundai N changed my view of FWD.

Some fwd cars like my 2001 Integra are balanced to allow the driver oversteer if the car isn’t rotating as much as you’d like. I learned that the scary way by coming off the gas too sharply while halfway through a sharp corner in the rain, but the car and I survived it and it’s another little tool I can pull out while driving. This balance towards lift off oversteer combined with double wishbone suspension in the front is a great way to counter that primary weakness of fwd

Late 90’s early 2000’s Audis Quattro system was ABSOLUTELY BUILT DIFFERENT

I'm stuck between FWD and RWD but at the end of the day, gotta love the simplicity of two wheel drive

"Which drivetrain is the best?" "Yes."

Fwd is so much fun tho like carving up mountain roads just hits different. Also slap a big rear sway bar on pretty much all fwd vehicles and it'll get rid of virtually all that under steer and help with body roll

Drive all 3 and you should see the beauty in each. Personally it’s hard.. super hard.. but I’d have to go with AWD 🙏

up here in Canada the order for all year driving is AWD>FWD>RWD.

The order of greatness goes AWD>RWD>FWD

I like them all, honda raised my appreciation for FF engine layouts, and id argue that good drivers can be fast in FF cars as well

AWD ❤

Every drivetrain is good to something FWD = Straight racing (Drag) RWD = Drifty and fun AWD = More grippy but you can do both :)

i love them all tbh they all have their ups and downs. all good at their own things.

AWD for ever Rip ken

You can have fun in all three

I'm glad you showed the 7th gen Celica for a fun front wheel drive car because those things are pretty tight

Vw rabbits with a solid axle will lift a rear wheel and oversteer around corners

They're all a blast, but I agree that it definitely just depends on what you're doing with it!

fwd is heavily reliant on pedal steering to get thw rear wheels turning

I’ve driven tons of cars and for me by far the funnest is RWD. It’s such an exhilarating driving experience. Awd and fwd are more practical but nothing tops the thrill of rwd

AWD or 4WD for winter and off-road but RWD for fun weekend car or summer car

Depends what you're doing/trying to do.

FWD for the city, RWD for the highway, and AWD for the world

RWD is the best for sure. It feels natural and is the most fun layout. Tho traction limits are a lot less. AWD is close second, but there are always 2 negatives with AWD.. -Theyre heavier and typically get worse MPG.

Thank you for an excellent summary. I agree that all drivetrains can be made to work well. Rear wheel drive is my favourite, because it is the system used by classic sports cars and it is lighter than four wheel drive. As Colin Campbell advocated, "Just add lightness".

this video is fitting for me 1st car was awd, 2nd fwd and now my current is rwd

I mean, I’m a Honda boi, so, it’s FWD for me

I love FF. Just gotta know how to use it. Every drivetrain has its strengths and weaknesses. Being someone who likes technical courses I'm more partial to RWD, but since I've always raced in FWD cars irl because it's what I had - I learned how to properly use that too and the driving styles are dramatically different.

okay but that last clip w the gtr 😮‍💨😻🖤

Pretty much the only benefit that comes with fwd is higher efficiency and lower powertrain losses. When you get to higher power levels you’ll notice the ugly parts of fwd. You’ll have torque steer due to uneven trans axles which sometimes isn’t an issue on certain cars that try to even them out but typically is an issue and isn’t fixable without a transmission swap. You’ll have wheel hop and lack of grip. This is from the weight transfer when you really get on it which causes weight to come off the front allowing the wheels to spin and occasionally grip up which will bounce them. This can be fixed by fitting stiffer suspension and tightening the body to the frame via a dogbone or replacing subframe hardware. You also will run into issues with the transaxles. Awd cars also have this issue and it’s due to a sudden heavy load being put onto the transaxles. You’ll snap them, damage boots, or if you’re running a type of carbon fiber or composite transaxle you can crack them. There’s not a lot you can do to prevent this since it’s just the nature of low powertrain losses and sudden high stress events. This happens when you actually find grip in a fwd car from a dig and you’ll see this happening at drag strips on occasions. Obviously the bad for the fwd platform is having serious understeer when you’re cornering and trying to apply power. The obvious solution is to not give your car power through a corner or give it minimal power to prevent sliding the front tires. You can also combat this with grippier tires, stiffer suspension, stiffer sway bars, and weight reduction. Another easy solution is to prevent turning the wheel quickly since that can cause a loss of traction or to take a line more suited for fwd cars which limits how far you actually have to turn the wheels to get through the corner. I personally prefer awd since you get the most grip at the cost of the most power train losses. I most enjoy rwd for the ability to induce oversteer easily and slide around whenever I want. And I love fwd because they require the most work to drive fast due to fighting torque steering, lack of grip, and preventing understeer. The real benefit that most people don’t see with fwd cars is the amount of speed you can achieve with them. Imagine having three identical cars but ones fwd, ones rwd and ones awd. You’ll notice the fwd car will pull ahead and it’s due to a lower drive train loss. Another thing is fwd is typically lighter which means a 450whp GTI will smoke a 450whp mustang till drag catches up to it and the mustang pulls on by. You can’t go wrong with any platform you just have to choose the one that’ll have the strengths and weaknesses that suits you.

I’m biased but my 05 WRX that I’m converting into an STi has so much grip and has helped me so much in bad road conditions I’d have to saw AWD. There’s nothing like being able to have your tires grip in a snow storm, but also have the ability to do donuts in a parking lot. Not to mention some people who are pushing 475hp at the crank are doing 1/4 miles in 10 seconds. So they can be fast, they can slide when you want them to, and they’re fantastic in bad weather conditions.

I can enjoy all worlds. Got a cobalt with FWD, a 2nd gen MR2 mid engine RWD and a bugeye wrx for AWD. Love all of them respectively

I think all of them are cool and good but awd is my personal favorite(mostly cause im a massive rally guy)

Comes down to personal preference. I prefer RWD and AWD

Awd is best faster quicker and better corner exit speed

What's best completely depends on what you're trying to do with the vehicle.

I’ve only ever owned fwd cars unintentionally. 18 nissan sentra for my first, 23 elantra Nline for my second. When I get my hands in a rwd… IT’S A WRAP. These rainy florida back roads is getting the WORK

I experience understeer in AWD cars too. FWD isn’t so bad as long as you know what to do (and they’re built). I would still love to do something really crazy with my mkIV Jetta. I’m certain it’s been done with other platforms but it would be the first of its kind for Volkswagen

AWD can be programed to be bias to the rear or front until more traction is demanded for a specific wheel. The newer AWDs tend to be rear bias.

I saw the 7th gen celica as a rep for the FWD and I smiled

So i love rear wheel drive cuz ima muslce car guy, but i live where we get cold winters with snow and ice and rear wheel drive sucks for that

On a track, I’ve had more awd cars under steer on me than felt wheel drive, both are easily prevented as long as you know your car and know how to drive it, on a fwd suspension set up is really crucial, you can really get rid of under steer tendencies with proper suspension, but that goes for all cars. I’ve seen quite a few new drives just nose dive their corvettes into corners lol.

I can't say which is best because they all equally have positives and negatives. But I definitely have my order of favorites

I really like fwd, though I haven't driven too much of the other two. I've been having so much fun in my 2nd gen Mazda 3

All different cars Good for different things. Incomparable really

I agree with you they all have their place and time literally and figuratively

I'm building a 92 s10 blazer 5.3 LS 2door 5speed AWD...all you need is a 4x4 s10 then slap an AWD transfer case from an astro van or escalade...depending on what transmission your gonna use

My car I drive rn is a fwd car, and I have drove around 35 and 45 mph curves doing around 55 to 60 miles per hour, granted fwds do suffer from understeer, but any skilled driver can find a solution to go around curves without understeer being as noticeable

Unrelated driving competitively we had a 2002 Chevy cavalier and it was really hard to get it stuck like you could go places the Dodge 2500 would never go in the winter

I have own all 3 types they are all fun in their own right. In saying that I have had fun in every car and truck I have driven. I guess I'm easy to please. But given the choice I would take a rear drive even though I currently drive a Subaru and I really enjoy it.

Well when it comes to rear wheel drive it depends on the TYPE of rear wheel drive cause theres FR, FMR (Front Mid mounted Rear drive), MR, and RR. All four types give very unique handling characteristics. Personally I like FF. Usually lighter cars with, for the most part, badass engines, and those cars teach you about throttle control better than any rear wheel drive car can simply cause if you use too much throttle you understeer. Understeer is way easier to compensate for than oversteer. And if you don't believe me just look at Porsche's Widowmaker or drive a MR2 on a mildly damp cloverleaf

only once I had AWD in the form of xDrive and personally found it frustrating, as soon as the tail slips and looks like the fun is beginning the front grabs traction and u straight again..

RWD gives you the most flexibility and agility to turn any kind of corner. The rest require learning techniques to overcome the disadvantages of its weight distribution to achieve the same goal. A car engineer can redesign anything to achieve any result but the fact remains, RWD is the most flexible of the layouts for cornering agility.

The things you can do with AWD, just look at how the Lancer Evo X FQ models handle, all that torque, all that control makes for one of the sharpest and most focused cars you’ll get

I would say front wheel drive if we talk about winter autocross

In theory anything can be done well. I’m partial to awd because I’ve only ever lived in MA and now southwest Michigan. The only way I’d trust any sort of 2wd is with some sort of limited slip differential and whatever else is needed to help with traction. Nearly died a few times in an old fwd car with open diffs back in the 80’s and 90’s. Seen other people have trouble with rwd too.

My vote is awd, but I race rallycross on a dirt track and my preferred route for commute is on gravel roads. Although I don’t think I've driven rwd aside from trucks.

The tokyo drift mountain is crazy

I respect awd for rally and other similar things, but I pretty much only drive rwd

My Audi Torsen AWD with torque splitting gives me the best of both worlds of RWD/AWD. I can get it to powerslide like an RWD (not gnna say drift as it wont, at least not well). But get the stability and launch of AWD and great control in any weather. Love it! Pure RWD is more fun though.

I like the way RWD handles, all are good options in different applications though.

The best part about all-wheel drive is experiencing understeer and oversteer at the same time. I genuinely feel all wheel drive gives all the downsides of both with no real advantage four-wheel drives okay

Fwd:uses car as a method of transport only Rwd:car enthusiast Awd:offroad and rally

My analysis (puts glasses on) FWD - Less weight and drivetrain loss. - No central hump so more rear passenger leg room. - Slight traction advantage on unsealed surfaces compared to RWD. - Understeer is easier to handle than oversteer. - Easy to do burnouts. RWD - Weight transfer to rear under hard acceleration which aids traction. - Can better handle large power and power when exiting corners. - Better for towing than FWD. - No understeer under power. - Less weight and drivetrain loss than AWD. - Can do mad skids wit da bois. AWD - Can handle bigger power generally better. - Better traction advantage on unsealed surfaces. - Like RWD is more compatible with large types of engine configurations. - Can do those sick donuts on the spot.

Like so many things out there. It depends on what the intended use is

Best is AWD. Love Hondas but in a track setting having 2x the grip, Better weight overall, And the ability to actually make the power stick allows for alot better drive overall. But I still love me some Hondas no matter what.

what really matters is that you have a car that you can have fun in

I like the last GTR drifting in 2wd

My opinion. Front or rear, with the engine on top of the drive wheels you get less mechanical waste but you have more storage with FWD. So daily driven econony cars are best as front engine FWD. Rear engine cars get the efficiency of FF but still have the performance of FR. The loss of both is you don't have a direct connection with the transmission (cables). Plus you don't have much storage unless you stick the engine past the rear axle like Porsche. AWD simply has the huge advantage of getting the power down on an imperfect road surface. The downlides being a weaker drivetrain (they do break easier from getting shocked repeatedly) and they simply won't be as economical. I've owned both FF and FR vehicles, prefer FR, want to get a Subaru some day but just can't afford one that isn't a rust bucket. The next best thing is building the Jeep TJ I have now. Planning on keeping it stock height or lower. It's a breeze to maintain btw. Also I do believe there is a huge mechanical difference between AWD and 4x4. I prefer 4x4.

More is more, AWD FTW! 🔥 You have both FWD and RWD

I just miss the handbreak. Nothing was more fun than thinking i can drift well at 18 with a fwd and a handbreak. I hate that stupid electric break bs

There's a lot of factors but objectively without any cost restrictions and full technological limits being hit AWD is going to be faster in every scenario although when costs come down and technology is simplified RWD becomes an option maybe if there was a race class of highly strict rule set fwd could be competitive but it would always be a struggle to stay competitive

AWD with more power being sent to the rear is king. You get max traction in snow, can drift, and has amazing speed.

Fwd understeer because no one seems to understand that going aggressive in corners is what makes it do that. If you drive it properly it can sometimes even oversteet

The trick to fwd is to power through the understeer

It depends on what performance your looking for.

all wheel drive, i want an evo or subie so bad but everyone say spare the headache

Driven all three and owned all three. All are good on their ways and require different set of accel and braking works to make them work. Think of it as learning different martial arts. All are fun and great and have their own weakness.

RWD

Each of the three platforms have their place that they excel in, its just about being open to different types/styles of driving as well as different builds, the debate cant really be which one is better when they all fall short in different categories. Its like a rock paper scissors sort of deal when you think about it. Like sure they can all kinda do the same thing, but the other can just do it better. All i can say is if you havent dedicated time in properly learning a car of each layout or havent tried a different style of driving I'd suggest that you do.

Dude talked about AWD, but mentioned Subaru and Mitsubishi, how can you forget Audi? Quattro is legendary.

The best drive train layout is the drivettain on the car you own and love Idk if FF are understeery and an MR will beat it on track. You cant have fun in an MR if you cant drive an MR. You can have fun in an FF if you want to.

The best drivetrain is individual-wheel drive, ie. an electric motor on each wheel.

I love fwd for daily since I’m always cutting up in traffic 😼

I’d say at least rear wheel drive is better than front wheel drive because of the understeer thing. Because that can genuinely be dangerous

Honestly, y'all forgot two drivetrains: MR and RR. Or, Mid-Engine/Rear-Wheel, and Rear Engine/Rear Wheel. Essentially, an MR car is the Toyota MR2, amd the RR car is a classic Porsche 911 or an old-school VW Bug.

RWD is fun for highway and moderate turns, AWD is for off-road and inclement weather, and FWD is for learning how to actually drive. If you can’t manage a FWD car, you have no business learning RWD later on. Too many people in the US focus on straight line speed and that’s not all there is to offer.

Srt 4 neon you stay on the gas into corners you just gotta tell yourself the front end is pulling me through it

Subaru and Mitsubishi? WHAT! I bought a Toyota ST185 off the showroom floor in 1991. In the US it’s called an All-Trac Turbo and a GT-4 elsewhere. As far as I am concerned my completely stock Celica All Trac Turbo is better than very car ever made except the 1969 Camaro RS with a rag top or the 1968 Mustang with the small V8 (280 something) and a rag top. Celica is still the fastest car I’ve ever driven on the highways. 147 mph with no add ons…totally stock. ( it still looks and runs great!)

Personally I’m a sucker for FWD and AWD, we can all agree for example if u come across a sleeper civic or even a fully modded out civic/ Honda with slicks on the front wheels or even all 4 and a intercooler up front and a laptop in the passenger seat. Ur either dealing with a difficult kill or not at all.

I have driven all of them. I have 2 fwd drive cars and 1 AWD SUV. BLESSED BY GOD. I am going with AWD as the best because the handling ,control, and the power on the ground with little to no slip

idk why but the understeer diagram makes me cackle

Rwd Easiest to work on Least picky setup Best for overall fun