FX Impact M3 MKII Hammer Upgrades : when we need them or do we?

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@whiteykauai 2 ай бұрын

Excellent vid tutorial! You help us guys save time and money as well as the frustration of putting in too heavy of a hammer for the specific need.

@ronnygordy5862 Жыл бұрын

to confirm: this morning I removed the tungsten hammer weight and light spring, replaced with the original hammer weight and spring. Lo and behold I'm still at 960 fps, have all move adjustment back in the macro wheel and my spread with 40 shots is 10...thanks for the knowledge you share

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

@Don.E.63 Жыл бұрын

I have an impact m3 25 cal. 600mm I bought it to hunt small game and punch paper, at first i thought i wanted to shoot slugs and still do sometimes, it is a totally stock gun, after much frustration and several times taking dozens of shots over and over just to find the sweet spot i came to the conclusion that for me and what i do with it, its just not worth it, having to buy more and more expensive parts to add on to an already expensive gun. In stock form it will deliver 75+ fpe with a 34 grain pellet & 34 grain slugs. the range i shoot at (50 to 75) yards, i just dont need the slugs, the power kits, hammers, barrels, etc. What the m3 will do is shoot very impressive groups with pellets and can be a very quiet and powerful small game gun, once i got this mindset about it i have had great fun. Each to his own, thanks moose for another good info video!

@iiimilleriii275 Ай бұрын

Just ordered the huma hammer set to get more tunable Fx M3. The 14gr hammer is just to heavy for finding a good tune for my 25gr slugs. Thanks for the detailed info. I didn't know there was something in between like the Huma hammers 👌👍

@michaeleber4752 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great video. It is the first one I've seen that talks about what and when of hammer upgrades.

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@JIBREAL1967 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for that dose of clarity

@markusscholl4958 Жыл бұрын

Great presentation. Such information is so huge of value. Thank you.

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@a.w.mmathijssen7517 Жыл бұрын

another great video, these videos have the right information! keep up the great content, regards from the netherlands

@rwilliam01 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Good Info big help. Puts things into perspective

@precisionairgunninghunting6265 Жыл бұрын

I have the Gen 1 Slug kit with standard hammer in my Impact MK2 25/700 & I have no issues shooting 25.39 pellets or upto 50gr slugs 980fps on 148reg. I've always wondered about the slightly heavier Huma. With regard to the Tungsten, many don't realise exactly what it was designed for, to start it needs 165reg minimum & it has been known to snap the valve pin because of the brutality 🙂

@hobar8031 Жыл бұрын

Thank u for the video! This is what i have been looking for a longtime! Thank u !

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed and you are very welcome

@jasonjones1720 Жыл бұрын

Again awesome explanation. Just put a heavy in my crown. (Shoots crazy fast but no tune ability im not a fan) With this explanation and what I experienced in the 1st shots I'm going to the lathe and making my own hammers of different weights.

@georgedeedsnotwords2162 Жыл бұрын

Great video moose ! Love this type of information . I made a mistake about the set screw a couple weeks ago (my friends fx dream tech that was only shooting at 200 fps). It wasn't down by the trigger set screws . It was up in the magazine well . Down to valve and hammer . When you get it out you can see the valve and hammer . We took out set screw and it instantly shot better . After a few minutes of adjusting he was as happy as a teenager loosing his verginity ! Went from 200 fps to 760+ fps and one hole three shot groups . I have a feeling the chipmunks are not messing around his place as freely as before . Lol another fx fan ! Keep up the great work bud ! 👍🍻

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Yep the packing screw. Most dealers remove them

@quailman3669 Жыл бұрын

Nice I’m a vk fan as well .My bsa loves them as well .

@gudendk Жыл бұрын

So informative, thanks!

@elcristiano22 Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for this video

@centralidahoairguns4240 Жыл бұрын

Nice job Moose. Thanks

@hotchihuahua1546 Жыл бұрын

Great video and very informative . 👍

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@Fernando_Woolybooger Жыл бұрын

YES! Thank you for this! I dropped the tungsten in my 25 and was slinging 43.5 grainers crazy fast but it was taking my M3 to extremes I was not comfortable with. Loud. Violent and nerve racking . And just not enjoyable. Put the stock hammer back. Retuned to pellets and my happiness is back. I fell victim and got sucked into the go big trend. It’s not that great.

@bobbysusenbach9687 Жыл бұрын

This helped me so much. Thanks!

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

@chrisfigueroa3361 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video .... great info I found out for me that the regular slug kit with Ernest rowe dual port and light value spring works for me in both of my fx impact..... I tried the huma kit with both hammer weights I tried the tungsten hammer etc ...and for me the the regular slug kit is good enough for me for shooting slugs thanks for sharing bsafe buddy 👍

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

The hammer is in addition to those pieces. Regulator pressure dictates hammer weight

@chrisfigueroa3361 Жыл бұрын

@@abitoutside yes sir

@lazydays-bw4kh 3 ай бұрын

New sub great information nd well explained cheers

@abitoutside 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

@rdangc4419 Жыл бұрын

Great info, thank you

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Very welcome

@fredbrackely Жыл бұрын

I'm running an Impact M3 .22 standard (600mm barrel) with the slug probe and barrel port only (no other changes) with the FX hybrid 22 grain slugs. Very good results with standard STX liner with 1st reg. at 140 bar, second reg. at 90 bar (try and keep 50 bar difference for harmonics). Ok, its not shooting +1000fps, but high 800's - very repeatable and good 480cc air-bottle life.

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Cool

@eddieliang2845 Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@Just_Wimski1130 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for nice explanation

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Always welcome

@countryboitv2693 Жыл бұрын

Really helpful video

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@hackmasterHQ Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video and all the people commenting. I was thinking bout adding the tungsten to shoot slugs. I am more interested in acuracy and how many shots I get then anything else.

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Don't do it!

@obab18 3 ай бұрын

Yes ,for my impact mk2.22, regulate 80 bars, it's the hammer stock 6 grammes for pellets 18gr, and i think a hammer 7,5 or 8,5 max for 25 or 28grs. I'm totaly ok with you for having a différents réglages with the impact.👍

@abitoutside 3 ай бұрын

Right on

@robbypro3370 Жыл бұрын

Makes sense

@karlhuts78 Жыл бұрын

Spot on!! I noticed the tungsten hammer only starts allowing ES tuning from 140-145 bar upwards. You can tune for speed below that, but ES will be all over the place!! Another thing to watch is the length of the hammer spring. I do not know lengths for the impact, but for the maverick there are two versions: a 52 and a 56mm. The 56 allows for more power BUT is a lot less forgiving on ES level (impossible to get ES below 12-15 consistently). The combo 56mm spring & heavy hammer is an absolute tuning nightmare once you go to anything-but-very-high-power (

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Exactly 💯

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

You need a heavier hammer, Tungsten at those pressures

@user-ck6cc5eo1v 7 ай бұрын

Good video 👍

@abitoutside 7 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

@ronnygordy5862 Жыл бұрын

Really good vid. this may be my issue. I installed the tungsten hammer with the light spring. Got maybe 10 fps. then added the pin probe got quite a bit, maybe 40 fps? BUT now my Macro wheel was ineffective. It could be on 1 or 16. Made no difference and also gave me about a spread of 30. I'm going to remove the tungsten...Thanks

@ronnygordy5862 Жыл бұрын

forgot to add, that w/ 130 on the 2nd reg and 4 lines on the valve. 170 on the first reg

@beyondtwominutes Жыл бұрын

Wish I hand found this before I've spent hours trying to figure why the tungsten hammer is only giving me at max 800 fps... 🤦I'll be switching it back to stock

@MrLlosent Жыл бұрын

Hello, many thanks for your video. I am desperate as I am stuck with my Impact MKII; since 7 days I can't use it. My problem is I can't reach 150Bars into my plenum, I installed the regulator 11washers, regular set up )()()()()() but even opening quite much the set screw I can not reach the 150Bars. Why? If I unscrew more the regulator set screw it vents and blow out all the air of the plenum. Can someone help me? Many thanks.

@ravshanbabayazov2294 Жыл бұрын

Hey, great tutorial video. I have an FX Impact M3 power block 5.5-700mm. Installed only pin probe from Huma-Air. I shoot 30 gr slugs. But I couldn't adjust to stable speed, 10ms (35 fps) speed difference. I bought a Huma-Air slug kit but haven't installed it yet. The set includes two springs and two hammers. Accuracy speed for slugs at 280-290ms (920-950fps). Which of these to install on a rifle? Do you recommend putting both springs and a heavy hammer?

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Try them all to find what works best. I use stock spring with heavy hammer

@whiteykauai 2 ай бұрын

I have original hammer in my M3, how much will it change with the 8.5gr Huma hammer and High Power 56mm spring set?

@marcbrown7174 Жыл бұрын

I have both tungsten hammers for impacts and mavericks the mavericks is 26gr the impact ones I got weren't that heavy I think it was only 16 or18gr i believe ?

@panchosmairgunner Жыл бұрын

well the Impact one is hollow, so it must be lighter for sure if they are the same size.

@whiteykauai 2 ай бұрын

I have the M3 in 35 with 700 Speiror liner with V2 Dual transfer port. I've been testing a variety of pellets and slugs. My goal is to be able to tune the gun down for small game then up for Feral pigs. Haven't put in heavier hammers and spring yet as I also want adjustability. My settings are 170/120/16/4.7/line 6 or 12.12mm VA shooting NSA 93 same hole at 25yds and thumb nail at 50yds. @ 835fps and 144ft lbs. Then I switch barrels to the 700mm 30 cal.Superior Heavy and use JSB 50g pellets at 170/120/8/3.8/and 9.20mm VA.similar groups @ 805fps and 72ft lbs, Using the Huma Slug Probe and V2 dual hole transfer port. Can share your info with me from what you've leaned? Aloha, Mark

@abitoutside 2 ай бұрын

All that is in these videos, I have not done that with a 35cal

@whiteykauai 2 ай бұрын

I'm curious, have you tested just adding the heavier hammer in the Huma Hammer Wt Tuning Set and still use the stock springs or just adding The Tuning High Power Springs and us using the original hammer?

@abitoutside 2 ай бұрын

Ohh some where I have, its been a long time.

@recklessjunkie Жыл бұрын

Hey Moose so I was looking to buy the slug power kit but I’m confused because Utah airguns has it but it’s description is confusing it say * x & mkII But If I go to another dealer it shows the same things you get it the picture but it’ll state it’s for the m3.. and then also no hammer is included just those washers you mentioned.. what do I actually need to know so I get the right one thank you I have a m3 thanks moose love the videos

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Call HPP this morning and order one from Tom. www.myhighpressureair.com He will get you hooked up

@recklessjunkie Жыл бұрын

@@abitoutside nice 😊 thank you

@whiteykauai 2 ай бұрын

My M3/700 in 35 is set at 170/120/16/4.5/line6VA. Shooting NSA 93g at 840fps. If I raise 2nd reg above 120 fps drops. For ex. at 150 bar I got 800fps. Why is this?

@bigfranksworld Жыл бұрын

Good info. I'm running an M3 with Huma transfer and NSA pin probe. 600mm barrel. Can't get the power out of it I thought I was going to get (75fpe) with 29.5 or 34.9 NSA slugs. Running 2nd reg at 160bar. Was going to buy the tungsten hammer, but now not sure if i should. What hammer would you recommend for this setup? Thanks for the info...

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

The heavy Huma should do it. Or the smaller Tungsten hammer that comes with the slug power kit

@bigfranksworld Жыл бұрын

@@abitoutside Thanks for the info. Just talked to Tom at HPP on your recommendation. He called me right back and answered my questions. Ordering the Huma hammer tuning kit and the high power spring. He said that should do what I want to do with the gun.

@benoconnorcroft421 Жыл бұрын

Hey Moose, are you swapping out the spring with that? Maybe im being dumb but no-one has talked about the spring /hammer weight combo.....

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Yes most of the time I do.

@starlightHT Жыл бұрын

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@abdulrahmanalbotaih2478 Жыл бұрын

Hallo, do you find brass material(shaving )around the hummer because I use huma 7.5 and I found a lot of brass material which It’s does not happen with original hammer weights

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

I have not . However, I'll be looking now

@abdulrahmanalbotaih2478 Жыл бұрын

@@abitoutside thanks

@kansasairhunters2057 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if a guy coukd shave a little off the back of that tungsten hammer to lighten it...i have a maverick 30 cal with that hammer on its way to me. Im ok with running 160 bar reg.....sure would be nice to have at least one pellet and one slug tune on the dial.

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Great idea!

@aubreylukebird7403 Жыл бұрын

I m getting 75 fpe & 915fps with 40 grains slugs with the rig pressure at 150bar with d standard hammer 700mm barrel I hav the fx impact mk2...I want to increase the speed so I guess I shud use a slightly heavier hammer ...do tell me 👍🏻

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Huma tuning hammers will do ya. They are available at www.myhighpressureair.com

@DanielGarcia-zw8nx Жыл бұрын

Trying to get as much info on fx guns especially on the wildcat Mk3 BT before i buy one, Will it be better to get a slug power kit or just a hammer ?

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Depends on reg pressure

@DanielGarcia-zw8nx Жыл бұрын

@@abitoutside i have no clue on where to start but i would like to push a 22 or 23 gr. Slug 950 or around 40 to 45 fpe is that to much for a sniper wildcat BT?

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Should be no issue at all buddy, if you contact www.myhighpressureair.com for that airgun he can get ya setup and we can make sure it is shooting that way for ya.

@AIRGUNMADUNREAL 4 ай бұрын

What about the valve spring did you put the stronger? One in or just the standard thanks

@abitoutside 4 ай бұрын

It was changed a few time for testing

@AIRGUNMADUNREAL 4 ай бұрын

Put in the 14 g tungsten in my .25 sniper 700 to shoot 36 grains and the back reg 165 trying to get ta 1000 fps sound violent would the next hammer weight down be a better job

@todaylets2583 Жыл бұрын

Now I'm confused Moose. So I bought an M3 at the very end of 2022. I was told that my gun has a tungsten hammer from the factory in it. Is this true?

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Who told you that?

@kurtsmith3842 Жыл бұрын

Do you know what hammer weight the stock M3 0.35 caliber impact ships with?

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

They all ship with the stock hammer in them.

@bdog3869 Жыл бұрын

@abitoutside do you have any info on .35 cal usage with slugs. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I bought the huma kit and wasn’t sure about which hammer weight would be best and is it necessary to use the springs that came with the huma kit. Thanks again and great explanation.

@whiteykauai 2 ай бұрын

@@bdog3869 I have the M3 in 35 with 700 Speiror liner. I'm testing a variety of pellets and slugs. My goal is to be able to tune the gun down for small game then up for Feral pigs. Haven't put in heavier hammers and spring yet as I also want adjustability. My meeting are 170/120/16/4.7/line 6 or 12.12mm VA shooting NSA 93 same hole at 25yds and thumb nail at 50yds. Then I switch barrels to the 30 cal.and use JSB 50g pellets at 170/120/8/3.8/and 9.20mm VA.similar groups. Using the Huma Slug Probe and dual hole transfer port. Can share your info with me from what you've leaned? Aloha, Mark

@brorjordas1979 Жыл бұрын

Just a small notice... Grams is "gr" in the US and not just "g"? I just took a note on that because my chronograph do work with "gr" as grams instead of grains and the chrono does a terrible energy calculation if entering a 0.77gram pellet as "g" instead of using the "gr" instead.. I've got an Acetech chronograph.

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Yep

@Liam-ql7tr Жыл бұрын

So your saying to shot heavy slugs with heavier hammer then you need to gut your impact internals including beefier items such as valve.

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Don't know what video you were watching but you commented on the wrong one.

@Liam-ql7tr Жыл бұрын

Haha. No right one. No sleep 4am typing on phone maybe not clear. If Heavy hammer is not tunable with stock internals. Would it be better to get everything else beefed up to handle heavy weight hammer to be so it can be tunable? ( heavier slugs ) ?

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

No, the hammer is subject to reg pressure directly, the stock hammer will be fine till you are increasing your reg past its ability to open the valve consistently

@Liam-ql7tr Жыл бұрын

So to be clear with 150 bar and up reg along with Heavy tungsten Hammer you will be-able to adjust your gun well ( of course talking about heavier slugs ).?

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

@9uhaib114 Жыл бұрын

I don't think the numbers you provided are valid, upon tests and recommendations from pro's, the dual ring hammer that comes in the slug kit should operate at minimum of 150 bar reg pressure if you are using the light valve spring.that applies with a bit more on the light huma hammer and you will notice that as you're using your gun. the 7.5 hammers can open the valve safely all the way to 168 bars reg pressure if you intend to go high reg pre's beyond 170 bar it is recommended to use the 14.5 tungsten hammer noting that the new power block regulator is designed to hold 200 bar reg pressure, so it is suitable for those who use high reg pressures on power blocks or modded regulators failing to accurately use the right hammer for the right pressures will lead to excessive air consumption (and huge velocity spread), slug wobbles ( or inaccuracy) or even valve rod damage.

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha, the "Pros" huh? Follow them since you know.

@recklessjunkie Жыл бұрын

I hate that tungsten hammer you are dead on right when you said Violent it’s extremely VIOLENT! The gun feels like ass! What would you say if I put back the oem hammer and shoot slugs weighing between 29-33 grain would that be fine atleast until the US gets a batch of huma tuning hammers I’m not paying huma 49 bucks for something costing 16 bucks before shipping and VET fees !

@abitoutside Жыл бұрын

Utah should have Huma tuning hammers in stock or check Talon Tunes