FYB J Mane Asks Crip Mac Why He Hates the Hoovers

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10 ай бұрын

Crip Mac speaks on street politics and etiquette.
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@user-ol8zu5bf9q
@user-ol8zu5bf9q 10 ай бұрын
It’s crazy how Jmane and Crip Mac both gave us they serious self ,so the respect level hitting different.
@speedingthroughhell5939
@speedingthroughhell5939 10 ай бұрын
They Hutu Aquarius lmao they understand each other
@dataengrprospect9207
@dataengrprospect9207 10 ай бұрын
It hit different 😂😂😂
@letstalkaboutit7842
@letstalkaboutit7842 10 ай бұрын
Cmac is a Bipolar next week he want to fight him under the njk stairs .. 😂
@chillahslocal
@chillahslocal 10 ай бұрын
​@@speedingthroughhell5939lol water signs be like that
@DRANKWORLD
@DRANKWORLD 10 ай бұрын
@@chillahslocalaquarius isn’t water sign…
@theclardys4836
@theclardys4836 10 ай бұрын
Bro said “ Cousins and Crothers “ 😂😂 I’m done with this shit! 😭
@LeFFLaNE44
@LeFFLaNE44 10 ай бұрын
He had to look out for his love fivees
@LegitTheProducerBackup
@LegitTheProducerBackup 10 ай бұрын
What’s even funnier is.. I had my captions turned on, & the automated texts spelled out crothers correctly 😂. Even my iPhone just tried to autocorrect ‘crothers’ lol
@Discipleofyeshuahamaschiach
@Discipleofyeshuahamaschiach 10 ай бұрын
😆😆😆😆😆😅😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
@theclardys4836
@theclardys4836 10 ай бұрын
@@LeFFLaNE44 lmao…
@310percentage
@310percentage 10 ай бұрын
Stay "fivecused"... cro cnt even say focused cuz it sounds like a 4 😂 I'll ce damned
@m1ni430
@m1ni430 9 ай бұрын
This was the clearest level headed conversation I’ve ever heard from crip Mac.
@yomamasvaginasmellslikerai842
@yomamasvaginasmellslikerai842 6 ай бұрын
Maybe you should suck him up 😂
@justinnave8554
@justinnave8554 6 ай бұрын
Must be lost
@Lvl1Machop
@Lvl1Machop 10 ай бұрын
The fact that he just admitted it and said that people think he retarted but he ain’t so he just goes with the flow
@youngtrill9745
@youngtrill9745 10 ай бұрын
Samething flightreacts does, crazy as it sounds ppl like when you act "slow"
@Kmac223
@Kmac223 9 ай бұрын
Go catch some fuckin Pokémon
@moorishamexemal-morocco4204
@moorishamexemal-morocco4204 9 ай бұрын
This nigga act "acting" slow smh
@christopherbrown9279
@christopherbrown9279 9 ай бұрын
Retarted? 😂smh
@christopherbrown9279
@christopherbrown9279 9 ай бұрын
Retarded you mean 😂😂😂 smh
@SRT_DRE
@SRT_DRE 10 ай бұрын
Crip Mac have 100 fights a year and lose all 100 and we still respect his G 😂
@leedave9314
@leedave9314 10 ай бұрын
He’s the realest he gets his ass beat and tells it how it is, most people are too tough to even admit blatant shit
@jaychosen1151
@jaychosen1151 10 ай бұрын
He prolly won some
@bluemoneymarr
@bluemoneymarr 10 ай бұрын
He beat a brim up … 🤐
@Retro_johndoe
@Retro_johndoe 10 ай бұрын
Nawl he won about 55 for Certain
@Draqoraq
@Draqoraq 10 ай бұрын
😂
@jasonthomas2199
@jasonthomas2199 10 ай бұрын
J mane, what’s your sign? Crip Mac: IAM A CRRRIIIIP!😂😂 this combo is legendary!
@burrvisiontv
@burrvisiontv 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@reallyrell8892
@reallyrell8892 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@benjamintribe4652
@benjamintribe4652 10 ай бұрын
He a Pisces!😆💯
@datrionrandle
@datrionrandle 10 ай бұрын
That should be slogan like his signature adlib
@jwaave_oftha619waavedroppe2
@jwaave_oftha619waavedroppe2 10 ай бұрын
Lmfao TIMESTAMP?!
@QueenCityKing704
@QueenCityKing704 10 ай бұрын
Who ever thought a Rollin 50’s Neighborhood Crip & A Renegade Insane Black Disciple Would Be On Such A Platform
@abdulahiabdi3118
@abdulahiabdi3118 9 ай бұрын
What’s this renegade insane shit bout cuz I heard about the insane Gds but I never heard bout insane BDs ..are they just their own faction ?
@One30_Boppa
@One30_Boppa 9 ай бұрын
I’m a Crip from The Raq. I grew up back and forth between there and Minnesota. All my cousins is BDs and the energy is just like this all the time. All The Raqians be surprised like “how tf is you a Crip and you from Chicago”??? 😂
@Lxrzo
@Lxrzo 9 ай бұрын
​@@One30_Boppacivilian
@One30_Boppa
@One30_Boppa 9 ай бұрын
@@Lxrzo what do you mean?
@williebond9320
@williebond9320 9 ай бұрын
@@One30_Boppahe sayin you lyin
@stephanwalker4818
@stephanwalker4818 10 ай бұрын
Okay this is needed. Im glad no jumper is bringing back good content.
@aarongisclair4803
@aarongisclair4803 10 ай бұрын
These 2 need a show together
@Noeyhefner
@Noeyhefner 10 ай бұрын
You’re literally watching it lmaoo
@aarongisclair4803
@aarongisclair4803 10 ай бұрын
@@Noeyhefner oh sh*t. Is it official? I meant like a literal weekly show
@plutoloco2378
@plutoloco2378 10 ай бұрын
These two j cats is goofies. On five nem
@klankrank187
@klankrank187 10 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that's what this is
@Abarlow724
@Abarlow724 10 ай бұрын
They def need a show for all the slow folks to watch, you gotta be a ret@rd to like this shit
@9inety2wotv19
@9inety2wotv19 10 ай бұрын
Jmane and CripMac combo fire. Its regular conversation but the chemistry and the humor make it seem like they known each other for a min💪🏽
@jamesjameswhattheladyssayl7657
@jamesjameswhattheladyssayl7657 10 ай бұрын
All interviews are regular conversations
@Abarlow724
@Abarlow724 10 ай бұрын
Regular convos between two slow kids lmao these dudes need supervision
@cnotefoster7001
@cnotefoster7001 10 ай бұрын
Real street 🥷 gonna relate no matter da demographic All we need to do is come together instead of killing eachother for basically nothing
@smoove0ne
@smoove0ne 9 ай бұрын
@@Abarlow724😂😂
@johnouk55
@johnouk55 10 ай бұрын
Crip mac so authentic, he talks about his losses the same way he talks about his wins
@sunzofman940
@sunzofman940 9 ай бұрын
very sincere dude
@RONPEE-STINGER
@RONPEE-STINGER 7 ай бұрын
U mean autistic
@dj4751_mylord
@dj4751_mylord 9 ай бұрын
this was a great interview combo keep this up!!!
@mapleleafkay9824
@mapleleafkay9824 10 ай бұрын
0:57 “I wouldn’t say they’re peeling NOW, but” 🤣🤣🤣
@GetBusy-oc3rw
@GetBusy-oc3rw 10 ай бұрын
😭😭🤣
@cbtv0025
@cbtv0025 10 ай бұрын
Mannn😂😂😂
@thisislucidify
@thisislucidify 10 ай бұрын
I'm seeing whoops 😅😂
@vee1st
@vee1st 9 ай бұрын
you let crip mac speak naturally, and i got to see the first real emotion out of him... thats a great interview!
@KevKellum
@KevKellum 10 ай бұрын
“They peeling right now!” “Well we don’t wanna say they’re peeling now.” “Nah I see some whoops!” Lmaaaaooooooo
@user-sk4ss2ib6e
@user-sk4ss2ib6e 10 ай бұрын
Love how Jmane can mesh with any creator and make great content. Props to CMac too man. He is growing
@vulk7183
@vulk7183 9 ай бұрын
Literally
@donavintrip713
@donavintrip713 9 ай бұрын
If i was a gang member and I knew it was mando to fight, I don’t understand why they don’t take boxing and martial arts. All these guys look like goofballs throwing hands
@enron9983
@enron9983 10 ай бұрын
Crip Mac is the only person that actually stays on the giving back when the cameras are off. I don't love his interviews, but respect that more than anything.
@timc4765
@timc4765 10 ай бұрын
Wtf are you talking about, he only gives back when the cameras are on
@Shelovethagoat
@Shelovethagoat 10 ай бұрын
@@timc4765no he don’t do yo HW
@empiricalenterprise6200
@empiricalenterprise6200 10 ай бұрын
@@timc4765He actually gives back off camera
@user-ld2nq9wz8p
@user-ld2nq9wz8p 3 ай бұрын
Why can’t we support people when they doing good
@jaimerodriguez6406
@jaimerodriguez6406 10 ай бұрын
Crip Mac saying it hit different got me dead ass fuckkk 😂😂😂😂😂
@ellomate..
@ellomate.. 10 ай бұрын
really loving these two … please make it a regular thing
@Shroomunati
@Shroomunati 10 ай бұрын
“That’s some good gas it hit different” - the most effective use of ‘it hit different’
@84Productions
@84Productions 10 ай бұрын
I’m so glad y’all came together
@DominoCash215
@DominoCash215 10 ай бұрын
"Do Yo homework on Ficus" had me fucking crying🤣
@tkimathi
@tkimathi 10 ай бұрын
I almost passed out yo 😂
@garysanderford1572
@garysanderford1572 10 ай бұрын
Ficus is crazy I'm dieing 😂😂
@a-q9414
@a-q9414 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@ETERNALXGAMEPLAY
@ETERNALXGAMEPLAY 9 ай бұрын
It really hit different bringing these two together
@MobKingRa
@MobKingRa 10 ай бұрын
He said I thought a hammer smashed my face 😂 boy kept it real tho can’t win em all 👌
@Soloflavor
@Soloflavor 10 ай бұрын
insane thing to say
@blacklightlifestyle9763
@blacklightlifestyle9763 10 ай бұрын
Lmfaooo a fckn hammer, I ain’t geeked so hard in a minute 😂😂😂
@goatbebryant4915
@goatbebryant4915 10 ай бұрын
Crip Mac is special ed so he got no squabble or coordination
@Girlhefunny1
@Girlhefunny1 9 ай бұрын
lmao
@airhco15
@airhco15 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 he real for that whole story
@cleoncooper8623
@cleoncooper8623 10 ай бұрын
It hit different when Crip Mac gotta reinsure you if you know what a hammer is , Do your homework on how a hammer feel
@Allabtbusiness7
@Allabtbusiness7 9 ай бұрын
The collaboration we never knew we needed 😂 it do hit different
@rylordrylord7347
@rylordrylord7347 9 ай бұрын
I definitely enjoy this interview 100%
@darealsleepy7485
@darealsleepy7485 10 ай бұрын
I stopped watching no jumper but ever since FYB J Mane has been on there I’ve started back watching it. FYB J Mane keep doing yo Whoops and G’Careful out here Fam 💯💯😈🔱✡️
@tookover11
@tookover11 10 ай бұрын
Nawl fr it hit different
@dennisyoung4724
@dennisyoung4724 10 ай бұрын
He’s not even GD 😂
@tyshawnjames4
@tyshawnjames4 10 ай бұрын
He bdn goofy boa
@darealsleepy7485
@darealsleepy7485 10 ай бұрын
@@tyshawnjames4 I never said he was GD You slow asf I’m GD!!!
@darealsleepy7485
@darealsleepy7485 10 ай бұрын
I really wish y’all would read and comprehend first before y’all come on my comment talking like I don’t know what I’m talking about!! Im GD and I was showing Love to FYB J Mane and I never said he was GD. Me putting my Star and my Racks after my comment isn’t saying or means I’m thinking he’s GD!!!
@deagle2yadome696
@deagle2yadome696 10 ай бұрын
He doesn’t actually *have* a reason, it’s just what he’s been told he’s supposed to do.
@ayyeeeeee
@ayyeeeeee 10 ай бұрын
A Hoover killed his best friend.
@kennedyliberty1304
@kennedyliberty1304 10 ай бұрын
Lol 23 other morons that don't know wtf they are talking about. Get off his ❤
@nizzyni4353
@nizzyni4353 10 ай бұрын
Right, inherited war.
@h3o208
@h3o208 10 ай бұрын
​@@ayyeeeeee🎯
@KezDaBalla
@KezDaBalla 10 ай бұрын
You sound dumb ashit, there dead homies in this shit
@Clorex___
@Clorex___ 9 ай бұрын
@4:37 😂😂 Thats how Crip Mac Pass The Blunt. Just lays it on the table. 😂😂
@BlackFazos
@BlackFazos 7 ай бұрын
He was talkin too long that mf went out 😂
@jayredmon3769
@jayredmon3769 10 ай бұрын
They killing me using each others lingo😂😂😂
@reddsmoke904
@reddsmoke904 9 ай бұрын
"Did we just become best friends?" "Yep!"
@user-kp3lb7td1s
@user-kp3lb7td1s 4 ай бұрын
i like that shit lol
@Solanastatus
@Solanastatus 10 ай бұрын
This is a insane exchange everytime I see them together 😭 truly a curated masterpiece
@bctdmarketingdesign675
@bctdmarketingdesign675 10 ай бұрын
😂😂 this joint is 98% Adlibs
@TrentMcNary
@TrentMcNary 10 ай бұрын
Protect crip mac at all costs 🤙🏾🖤
@kingtmoney06
@kingtmoney06 10 ай бұрын
Lol tell that to the Hoovers
@TrentMcNary
@TrentMcNary 10 ай бұрын
@@kingtmoney06 I think I told the world there my boy.... we got similar names tho play boy
@kani6855
@kani6855 10 ай бұрын
Crip Mac just needs to stop being so street he’s been in the entertainment world for 2 years I get it made him but doesn’t last that long
@TrentMcNary
@TrentMcNary 10 ай бұрын
​@@kingtmoney06my boy you graduated HS in 2012 too.. and you play basketball... doppelganger AK my brother from another mother
@reignkaida
@reignkaida 10 ай бұрын
Why ? Seriously why 😂
@TREETOPRADIOLA
@TREETOPRADIOLA 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 this the link up i neva new I needed it hit diffren
@BusyBlizzie
@BusyBlizzie 10 ай бұрын
When CripMac said, “They Think Cuhh Mentally Retarded Cuhhh Cuhhh” 7:16 I Laughed So Hard The Way He Explained It I Swear I’m In Tears 😭 I Love The Hoodsta Man He Is As Real As It Gets😅😂🤣
@sd8484
@sd8484 10 ай бұрын
It's fake actually coherent....watch him talk when he was younger....nigga faking the accent
@fully6king
@fully6king 10 ай бұрын
😂😂
@therealpawman7467
@therealpawman7467 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 oms BRUH FUNNY ASF & CHILL AT THE SAME TIME👑 ayytime he hit that C-Mac dance I cry tears.....CHICAGO & CALI = LONG DISTANT CUZZINS
@doncaver3006
@doncaver3006 10 ай бұрын
We don’t see Crip Mac build alone but we see when he comes out he’s growing internally and THATS MOST IMPORTANT
@jrallday
@jrallday 10 ай бұрын
The energy is raw , original and authentic! We're going up.
@user-yb3jr1uz5q
@user-yb3jr1uz5q 10 ай бұрын
Dis full interview needa hurry up and drop frfr
@SSBluu
@SSBluu 10 ай бұрын
Perfect duo💪🏾
@Dumbdiego
@Dumbdiego 10 ай бұрын
Man ya gotta keep these 2 going 😂
@brandonforster3719
@brandonforster3719 10 ай бұрын
Cmac and J Mane it hit different. They were spittin facts and I appreciate that
@chichojohnson5978
@chichojohnson5978 10 ай бұрын
I could watch these 2 all day!!Just natural funny,When to different worlds collide 😂😂
@jakehoerntlein7292
@jakehoerntlein7292 10 ай бұрын
Do y’all home work 😅🤘
@vulk7183
@vulk7183 9 ай бұрын
​@@jakehoerntlein72928 ball
@jadakid1395
@jadakid1395 10 ай бұрын
Jmane n crip mac definitely are assets to no jumper. Every clip doing numbers 💯
@nvjaso
@nvjaso 10 ай бұрын
This may sound crazy but the fact that he can slide 5 before most words as a prefix n shit is mad creative even though its his hood lingo,btw their chemistry is like two decent cousins coming together 😂😂😂😂
@SRGNTSLUGHTR
@SRGNTSLUGHTR 10 ай бұрын
Crothers
@ToothTeller
@ToothTeller 10 ай бұрын
@@SRGNTSLUGHTRON H55D ♿️♿️♿️♿️♿️
@BrentWoods-nr3ui
@BrentWoods-nr3ui 9 ай бұрын
Stop it dude is a idiot
@Puzzles32
@Puzzles32 10 ай бұрын
I like this vibe here 🙏🏽
@monique88264
@monique88264 10 ай бұрын
Lovely Conversation😊😊😊
@Nupehefner7
@Nupehefner7 10 ай бұрын
“ Do yo hw on, this how I stay ficus” 🤣
@roger_smith420
@roger_smith420 8 ай бұрын
This is the first time I wasn’t annoyed by both of them, it is nice to see them being somewhat serious and just they normal selves
@user-ne4bm2vd9h
@user-ne4bm2vd9h 6 ай бұрын
Exactly my thought
@PALMERMEDIA
@PALMERMEDIA 9 ай бұрын
This interview is fire🤣🤣
@jrrob5864
@jrrob5864 9 ай бұрын
This interview is pure soul food I fuxks with this vibe, respect gentlemen.
@noochbandz8889
@noochbandz8889 10 ай бұрын
Lol I glad yall came back with another one crip mac really got slang you got stay fivecus
@seanfitzgerald2350
@seanfitzgerald2350 8 ай бұрын
This is why I respect crip Mac cause he real most people wouldn’t talk about there losses and idk why but this the best interview I’ve Hurd him do
@user-ye6bo7dm2o
@user-ye6bo7dm2o 10 ай бұрын
Lit 🔥 good job guys
@4300SIN
@4300SIN 10 ай бұрын
It hit different 😂🤝🏾
@vybespotmedia1810
@vybespotmedia1810 10 ай бұрын
“What’s yo sign Crip Mac”?… “Ima Criiip!!!” 😂😂😂😂😂
@AD-gs7zb
@AD-gs7zb 10 ай бұрын
Couldn't help but smile when C-Mac said it hit different lol. 💯
@davemyer4854
@davemyer4854 9 ай бұрын
Damn good video. Love to Cmac and JMane crazy asses.
@Alex-ub6sw
@Alex-ub6sw 10 ай бұрын
Need more interviews with these two together 😁
@Bitcheslovetony
@Bitcheslovetony 10 ай бұрын
Get this comment to 55 like’s please
@MrBodyCatcher01
@MrBodyCatcher01 9 ай бұрын
Nah
@Btree33
@Btree33 10 ай бұрын
This man thinking about the homeless. Respect
@DaDonBitterVonWan
@DaDonBitterVonWan 10 ай бұрын
5:11 when it starts to make sense 😂😂 fw both these men!
@stephenmcdonald9135
@stephenmcdonald9135 10 ай бұрын
A Lotta gems 💎 on this one
@JTLeyva
@JTLeyva 10 ай бұрын
Damn im loving it respect 🙏 ❤
@mane360tv6
@mane360tv6 7 ай бұрын
❤ love you big brother crip ohood
@TheSocieta25
@TheSocieta25 10 ай бұрын
This my favorite episode in about a year lmfao
@user-yi6hh1eh4n
@user-yi6hh1eh4n 10 ай бұрын
Much respect
@cbtv0025
@cbtv0025 10 ай бұрын
You from Chicago and it's ruff out there😂😂They def should link morr
@ishmaelbarre8748
@ishmaelbarre8748 8 ай бұрын
much respect to the No Jumper Team
@BIGGLO061
@BIGGLO061 10 ай бұрын
Salute to both men
@RonaldDorsinator
@RonaldDorsinator 10 ай бұрын
*never thought we'd see these 2 wild ass niggaz collabing and doing woops lol 😂😂😂 we need more of this*
@Daddyme92
@Daddyme92 10 ай бұрын
Talk that talk c-Mac. It hits different when c Mac keeps it 💯
@king45773
@king45773 9 ай бұрын
Luv this
@wheezy1194
@wheezy1194 10 ай бұрын
This is better than all their hosts/shows😂
@bigtimetv9109
@bigtimetv9109 10 ай бұрын
Deff need a part 2 funny asf interview when mac n fyb link up
@SwindleTV
@SwindleTV 9 ай бұрын
Dope video I really fw Mac Jmane they doing positive things
@Ewillmuzik
@Ewillmuzik 9 ай бұрын
“We don’t wanna say they’re peeling now” 😂😂😂
@rhyno9798
@rhyno9798 9 ай бұрын
The blunt went into his hands a lowercase L, came out a big C😂😂😂 That story had him tense 😂😂
@TC3theIronFist
@TC3theIronFist 10 ай бұрын
“Do yo homework on this how I stay ficus” I’m fuccin cryingggg lol
@blkhoodi
@blkhoodi 9 ай бұрын
bro need more of these two
@rickflair747
@rickflair747 9 ай бұрын
damn im feeling da CONTENT
@PlanOfActionz
@PlanOfActionz 9 ай бұрын
Yo I love these two, keeping it a buck wit it, love gang ❤
@johncombs1061
@johncombs1061 10 ай бұрын
Real shit I never really fuqked w JMane but this interview changed that n made me Respect bruh a lot more He the only one who tlks to Cmac like he got some sense and is a regular fuqkin person he got bruh expanding his vocabulary and actually had him having normal conversations 💯💯🤦🏾‍♂️
@BigSnowRLG
@BigSnowRLG 10 ай бұрын
They need a show ong
@Itsdafix818
@Itsdafix818 9 ай бұрын
This nigga bringing up fighting is always the funniest it hit different 😂
@BrenishaJackson-dl5vs
@BrenishaJackson-dl5vs 10 ай бұрын
glad to c them 2 😮kickn it❤
@Clashofclanz869
@Clashofclanz869 10 ай бұрын
Duo of 2023 ❤
@Scorpio-bv8jt
@Scorpio-bv8jt 10 ай бұрын
What’s your star sign? ‘I’M A CRIIIIIIIIP!’ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that caught me way off guard. Belly laughing 💯
@woobandzz6092
@woobandzz6092 10 ай бұрын
Respect to no jumper. For the opportunity 💯
@nickrangel3982
@nickrangel3982 10 ай бұрын
Good talk. Legit answer
@doncaver3006
@doncaver3006 10 ай бұрын
Maaaan these two are dope put aka john wick in there its a solid time! Not gonna lie I like watching my brothers all laugh and be serious at the same time
@IG2Ks305
@IG2Ks305 10 ай бұрын
It hit drifferent when Crip Mac says it hit different
@Rx7_T51R
@Rx7_T51R 10 ай бұрын
These 2 are the best 😂
@freshbaiii718
@freshbaiii718 8 ай бұрын
That was wavy, 2 niggaz that normally would neva come across eachother havin a genuine convo
@leonardmccright3751
@leonardmccright3751 10 ай бұрын
I LOVE HOW REAL CRIPMAC KEEP IT💯💯
@KingLouisDaSaint
@KingLouisDaSaint 10 ай бұрын
LOVE to see JMane winning! Big Ups to Adam for getting him straight
@TheChilledest
@TheChilledest 9 ай бұрын
Yeah it hit different!!
@deebrown5744
@deebrown5744 8 ай бұрын
Good brother..crip mac
@Mr.leek84
@Mr.leek84 9 ай бұрын
This is the shit we all needed❗🤣🤣🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@allpraises2667
@allpraises2667 10 ай бұрын
Cousins and Crothers 😂 who caught it ??
@swagbruh98
@swagbruh98 10 ай бұрын
me , crip mac , and Rihanna got the same birthday it hit different 💯💯💯
@user-yv9ko6fh2g
@user-yv9ko6fh2g 10 ай бұрын
I’m respect him for keeping it real for this lol god bless
@kevingaither8973
@kevingaither8973 10 ай бұрын
I fw these two together no cap
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