GÖBEKLI TEPE REVELATIONS: Thoughts on 3 days at Göbekli Tepe.

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As the first steps in making the Göbekli Tepe to Stonehenge film project, a few weeks ago, we spent three days at Göbekli Tepe with access to the whole site - we've been down amongst the T-pillars, we've seen the places where the people lived, we've seen excavations that are normally out of the public eye and much more - all in the company of the head archaeologist there, Lee Clare.
So that is what this show about: we so had our minds blown during our visit, we've got so much to talk about, and this is the first opportunity - probably the first of many - to share what we've taken away from our visit.
00:00:00 - Intro & overview
00:05:22 - First sight of Göbekli Tepe
00:10:04 - It’s a settlement!
00:19:30 - The North West excavations
00:22:02 - Göbekli Tepe is huge!
00:23:53 - How many T-Pillar sites?
00:25:36 - Sedentary hunter-gatherers
00:31:38 - A T-Pillar quarry & geology of area
00:36:50 - Exploring the Special Buildings on the ground
00:43:18 - The deterioration and end of Göbekli Tepe
00:47:43 - Stonework and sculpture
00:52:55 - Roof entries to rooms and portal stones
00:57:30 - More carvings and ... dog kennels?
01:00:54 - Consistency of iconography
01:04:34 - Echoes at Sayburç
01:07:22 - The ubiquity of T-Pillar sites
01:13:52 - Information overload & goobyes!
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@AncientArchitects 6 ай бұрын

Very jealous of your recent adventure. Can’t wait to watch this podcast. Hope you’re both well. Matt

@ThePrehistoryGuys 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Matt, much appreciated. I have to thank you for your piece about the thousands of quern stones found at Gobekli Tepe. It was the first I knew about them and added a whole level of excitement around getting to see the domestic aspects there:) All best, Rupert

@oddevents8395 6 ай бұрын

Love @Ancient Architects also, top notch videos! Thank you also for such good information

@AncientArchitects 6 ай бұрын

@@ThePrehistoryGuys Thanks Rupert. This was a superb podcast episode! Really enjoyed the info and also hearing your personal experiences. I can't wait to see your videos from the site. If you're ever near Leicester I'll take you for a pint (although not sure why you'd come to Leicester 😂)

@farmersdotter7 6 ай бұрын

I’m feeling a keen sense of FOMO knowing that the full excavation of sites like these won’t “happen in our lifetime”. I want to know how the story ends. Thanks for your wonderful updates.

@RalphEllis 6 ай бұрын

I still think Gobekli is a necropolis, just like the nearby Harran and Sogmatar necropolii. You take the body ti the sacred enclosure for a ceremony, and then they are placed in the square rooms behind for three years, and then you collect the bones. That is why the square rooms have small T-pillars in them, because they are sacred soaces for the dead, not houses for the living. Cities of the dead were big business in those days. Look at the Harran necropolis. Look at the Chaco Canyon necropolis in New Mexico. R

@sirds1548 6 ай бұрын

The story ends however you want it to. It's all speculation no-one can be sure of anything with archeology.

@hazeluzzell 6 ай бұрын

For pigments (not dyes), is there iron bearing rock in the area? Lots of colours there.

@hazeluzzell 6 ай бұрын

I think boar hounds is going a bit far?

@Travelswithgirlbear 6 ай бұрын

What an amazing experience. I really appreciate your interest in the domestic sites, not the the special buildings. I am so much more interested in the everyday live of the average people than the “temple” sites. I was in the Orkneys in August and loved sitting at the Barnhouse site and just trying to imagine the everyday activities going on around me, then then walking the same pathway to Stones of Steness, Ness and Ring of Brodgar.

@susanhague4719 6 ай бұрын

Good heavens! Walls with broken tools, bowls, equipment in them! Right up there with our modern day earth houses - walls with old tyres, bottles, etc etc! So much for our advanced technology! Just wonderful!

@johnbyrne8037 6 ай бұрын

As a lime and earth plasterer I found the section on stonework and decoration particularly interesting. One of my hobby horses is the idea that stone circles might have been decorated with the type of art now only surviving in caves. Also I do like the idea that the walls might have been plastered.

@richard66754 3 ай бұрын

Thank you guys for showing us this amazing archeological finds! I absolutely love your channel and have massive respect for you fellas!

@christianwhittaker6718 6 ай бұрын

Love the enthusiasm from two people who have seen so much . Only watching endless videos of different takes on the site almost makes you blasé about it untill you hear the guys enthuse about it and less "glamorous" aspects. Really enjoyed this. 👍

@ethanielhalling9426 6 ай бұрын

The information you shared regarding the scale of the domestic buildings has left me awestruck !!! My mind is overflowing with beautiful thoughts of generations of people settling, struggling, thriving, destroying, creating, loving, feuding, and nonetheless living wholy in community with eachother while developing distict and colorful cultures to leave us traces of !! Its sublime in the truest sense of the word 😭

@janetmackinnon3411 6 ай бұрын

How wonderful! Thank you so much--few of us will ever be there in real life, but to hear a passionate description is so stimulating.

@oddevents8395 6 ай бұрын

the way they explain and tell a story. And the laughs, lol.

@ericdenoorman1188 6 ай бұрын

Thanx a lot from Spain, for showing this wonderful place. Love Prehistory Guys.

@woofbarkyap 6 ай бұрын

Been looking forward to this!

@pamelagamblin981 6 ай бұрын

I am new but am going back to your other videos to watch 😊

@aussie405 6 ай бұрын

People who are artists still spend hundreds of hours carving sculptures, creating art etc. Many more hours are spent creating the textiles that were worn or used to cover people as they sleep. The real difference is that today many people spend those hours watching tv and playing games. Craftspeople make stuff and without the modern time wasters, they make lots of stuff.

@nightlyshift 22 күн бұрын

Well said! And even today, craftspeople and artists are willing to spend many, many, many hours on a single item. It's not all churned out as fast as possible using the biggest machines possible…

@amyjones2490 6 ай бұрын

The more one hears about this site the more intriguing these people seem.

@Sybil_Detard 6 ай бұрын

I was so happy you showed us the surrounding domestic areas. It helped me to envision the larger site surrounding the main feature. Thank you.

@astridadler6467 6 ай бұрын

Not exploiting but managing the water. Thanks a lot. this was very exciting and I can imagine it all a bit.

@ruthcherry3177 6 ай бұрын

A school friend of mine had a "pet fox", he was adorable BUT he stank! Rupert, cats were domesticating humans 10,000 years ago in the fertile crescent. I started researching this last summer for a presentation for the academy where I work, unfortunately, they changed the theme and I never finished it, so I don't have the link to the archeological study, but I can say, beyond a shadow of doubt, there was an article published in Nature Journal called: How Cats Conquered the World (and a few Viking ships). That's where I found a lot of info on cats in the Fertile Crescent and the DNA results from archeological studies.

@ingeleonora-denouden6222 6 ай бұрын

If you go on studying how 'cats domesticated humans', you can write a book on it! 😽

@nightlyshift 22 күн бұрын

I'm pretty sure I read the very same article, some time ago! UNfortunately, I don't have a link for it eithr, sorry.

@chiperchap 6 ай бұрын

great stuff guys once again. its all so exciting eek

@elizabethmcglothlin5406 2 ай бұрын

I wait in hope, having seen Rupert try to take photos of every last pebble! It must have been intoxicating, with whole museums worth of stuff just lying along the paths!

@vetprehistgeek 6 ай бұрын

Brilliant guys! Give us more more more!

@squirrly001 6 ай бұрын

So interesting. When I first heard about GT, the thought was that nobody lived there and it was just a temple, then it was some kind of skull cult and now we know people lived all around and did everyday things like using quern stones etc. Makes you wonder what will be discovered further. Great channel Prehistory guys!

@mariansmith7694 6 ай бұрын

There are habitations there, recently excavated. Yes, VERY EXCITING!

@dianespears6057 6 ай бұрын

Guys great as usual. Very interesting. Thank you for the review.

@annaleesteed788 6 ай бұрын

WONDERFUL!!! So much new information, without the sensation. Have they found any burials? Who were these people? Do they have any descendants? We need DNA studies. Can't wait to see your movie documentary. Thanks for your efforts!

@asexualatheist3504 6 ай бұрын

What a wonderfully informative podcast with personal impressions and insights. Than you!

@erpthompsonqueen9130 6 ай бұрын

Thank you. Watching and Listening from Alaska.

@loulagregg8468 6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing your experiences! I will never be able to see the sites for myself, and you are making it so real to me in your inimitable style! WHOOPEE!

@ruthcherry3177 6 ай бұрын

My mind is boggling at why they needed such heavy portal stones in timber rooves! Why not solid wooden planks? What were they keeping out? It is a risk, having something so heavy and so frequently used overhead, so why? There must be a logical reason. Thanks guys - keep it up!!!

@nightlyshift 22 күн бұрын

How about keeping up with the Joneses, impressing the neighbours? In other words, good ol' status?

@The_Reality_Filter 6 ай бұрын

Looking forward to this chat. GT is a real mystery.

@JunoDiovonaDemihof 6 ай бұрын

GT isn't a mystery, at least not to me- but it is soooooo very fascinating.

@JunoDiovonaDemihof 6 ай бұрын

Foxes do hunt mice. 1:00:28 The red fox is an omnivore and its diet includes fruits, berries and grasses. It also eats birds and small mammals like squirrels, rabbits and mice and invertebrates like crickets, caterpillars, grasshoppers, beetles and crayfish. They also eat carrion.

@nightlyshift 22 күн бұрын

so, pretty much anything they can get their paws on?

@JunoDiovonaDemihof 22 күн бұрын

@@nightlyshift how cute ! yes - 🦊🐾indeed!! In addition, these foxes were the first ones to be domesticated by humans, long before cats were. The wolf domestication into dogs took place in Asia/Eurasia by hunter gatherers of mixed Sapien and Neanderthal DNA. Foxes belong to the canine line. They are extremely loyal and devoted just like wolves and dogs.... and unlike cats become very quickly domesticated.

@trendtalklive 6 ай бұрын

I've been to Urfa so many times on business yet had no time to see Göbekli Tepe. I really must make the time to go now while it's winter and cooler. I wonder how the recent earthquakes in February has effected the site? My building was severely damaged (Kahramanmaraş) and I've since relocated to Ankara. If you haven't already done so, visit the Urfa Archeological Museum. It's fantastic. There is a replica of one of the 'round houses' with T pillars. Next stop - Gaziantep and the Zuegma Mosaics Musuem. We're waiting for you!

@samudroprem6936 6 ай бұрын

Oct 2023, there was no evidence of earthquake damage at the Taştepe sites. But the city museums were closed.

@earlt.7573 6 ай бұрын

If anyone can convey the experience of this site, it would be you two fellows, you have a real vision and appreciation for these places. Cheers.

@cdb081258 6 ай бұрын

Release all the footage!! Dont whittle down the 7 hours! I am certain it will all be full of amazing knowledge!

@alisn.7998 6 ай бұрын

Glad to be in at the earliest. So fascinating. Thanks, gentlemen.

@oscargranda5385 3 ай бұрын

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉as allways......Thancks😊😊😊😊😊

@laurencelz 6 ай бұрын

When Rupert talked about that stone portal / trapdoor all i could think of was : denial of access. To keep something out or in. Can not wait to see photos of this stone panel.

@laurencelz 6 ай бұрын

After seeing photos of this portal stone, I think the vents are for smoke to escape , again, basing this only on conjecture and what Rupert and Michael said about weight reinforces the wood structure / roof

@nukhetyavuz 6 ай бұрын

seems that in göbekliregion male ' gods' became dominant while in catalhüyük and other places in central asia and europe it was female 'goddesses...' cant wait for more,thanks🙏

@nightlyshift 22 күн бұрын

Maybe the women at Göbekli Tepe had their own rituals and Big Stuff going and said, pff, we don't need these poncy big stones or any kind of show, we do our own thing and it's so grand and so secret that nobody will ever know about it.

@1d1ane 6 ай бұрын

Splendid.

@kariannecrysler640 6 ай бұрын

The T pillars shaped like men… making my imagination go wild lol. I couldn’t help but think of the Titans and Atlas myths. The evolution of myths is always widening their horizons as archaeological discoveries continue to broaden our understanding.

@nightlyshift 22 күн бұрын

archetypes!

@dalearaddatz6815 4 ай бұрын

Enjoyed your speculations and additional discussion on what you saw on site. I have been following GT for a decade or so. Lots more information in Part 1, which I just viewed, that I had yet to read about. Looking forward to additional video on the sites and information you have gathered there. Have you been to Malta? If not you should look into it. The ancient sites there also have a lot of animal iconography similar to Gōbekli Tepe. It is my understanding that the pigments used to color most ancient stone carvings and sculptures are not usually dies. Dies are often plant based. Most are generally pigments made from various ground minerals and rocks. All very interesting stuff. Look into Malta if you haven't already. Thanks for your hard work. Wish I could join you!

@leejones4757 6 ай бұрын

So intrigued by your channel. So much 'out of date' data in the history books. With all the new information obtained over the past decade, i would suggest a rewrite? p.s. nice 335 Mr. Bott. All the best from Lapworth 😊

@dianewilson7984 6 ай бұрын

Seldom do researchers ever mention the fact that contagious diseases or epidemics affecting the human population or wildlife may be a big factor in the abandonment of ancient villages.

@nightlyshift 22 күн бұрын

If they weren't smart about waste disposal, they could've polluted themselves out of existence.

@MegalithomaniaUK 6 ай бұрын

Great podcast! Thanks for your close-up insights. Very interesting and look forward to hearing and seeing more at Megalithomania in May - Hugh

@elainerichards6406 6 ай бұрын

Fascinating topic!

@napalmholocaust9093 6 ай бұрын

The stressed timber buildings still made with traditional material or rough planks have criss-cross lattice roofs. They must have a certain amount of weight applied before temporary internal braces are removed so they have to be planned and designed. Usually barrel not round, the sides slope down quickly and much standing room is lost so a short wall or dug chamber is a minimum necessity to be liveable. Unsupported dry laid roofs require a very substantial and equal or greater counterbalance so you'd see it or a tremendous amount of stone at the top of the wall. I'm partial to peat slabs over bark or reed mats over timber. For all we know it was a giant pointy dome of combed straw like a russian church onion dome.

@janetmackinnon3411 6 ай бұрын

Still in this century in France some people eat a pâté made from young fox-cubs.

@banditbaker1675 6 ай бұрын

Thank you gents that was fascinating

@Padraigcoelfir 6 ай бұрын

At some point, I was thinking Göbekli Tepe was the first hospital. Lack of burials, yet bone fragments. Skull bones that shows some skulls have drilled holes. Might not be trepanation but, not to be casted out hypothesis. Access to water, food, alcohol from fermentation of wild grain...

@1916JAD 6 ай бұрын

Time spent in good company yet again chaps. Thank you. Not sure if it’s my algorithm but your videos are suddenly filled with awful adverts.

@a.v.7797 6 ай бұрын

Did they find any fabrics? Or signs of it for making it? If you are busy with weeds to eat, why not use the rest of the plant for making other things? We live in a world of dispossables, and we are now busy to recycle and be more conscious of our resources, but I can't imagine the people in that era thought of discarting things just as easy as we do now. Love your channel!

@TheSweeeeeetz 6 ай бұрын

Woohoo!! Been waiting for this !!!

@merryndineley2629 6 ай бұрын

Great to get your impressions. Gathering those wild cereals was clearly important to these people, as well as hunting, fishing and gathering all the other wild food resources. Of which there were plenty, it seems. So. What were they doing with the grain? Why did they want to gather it? How were they processing it? It's a question that some archaeologists choose to ignore. I think it's time to get back to the Braidwood Debate and consider the potential for malting and making malt sugars, a delicious nutritious food resource in itself. And it's also the basis for a fermented cereal based alcoholic beverage: ale. There's a lot more to Gobekli Tepe (and the other sites) than this, however, and I'm really looking forward to hearing more of your insights into this amazing place.

@yensid4294 6 ай бұрын

I thought it had been theorized that they were making beer on site? Large stone vats were present with residue...wish I had a link for you. Can't remember where I saw the info 😢

@merryndineley2629 6 ай бұрын

@@yensid4294 Yes indeed, there has been some work by Oliver and Laura Dietrich, Jens Notroff of the German archaeological institute.

@erdekind 6 ай бұрын

Thanks, very insightful.

@samudroprem6936 6 ай бұрын

Many thanks for the extra info on the Taştepe sites. It was really helpful that I had been to Göbeklitepe & Karanhantape a couple of months ago. Alas only from a tourists pov. You guys didn't mention the tree at the top of the hill and its role in the discovery of GBT. Note: Şanliurfa is pronounced Shanliurfa. Many locals just call it Urfa, and consider it the birth place of Abraham. At Karahantepe, the statue of the man holding his phallus has been vovered by a large black box. It seems they are waiting to cover the site as they have done at GBT. Having been to these sites I xan confirm your observation of the vastness of the terrain. I wonder, very speculatively, about the connections of Taştepe sitrs with that of Çatalhuyuk. If it were the descendants of one culture that moved across the Anatolian plateau... and even later to Hattusa.... Certainly, it is an exciting time for Turkish archaeology.

@b0thers0me 2 ай бұрын

I keep thinking about the special buildings. And I keep thinking, this is a protected place, where they gathered to talk, sing, dance, tell stories, teach children, solve problems and dispense judgement. I'm glad the "ritual" emphasis is being diluted, since it is facile to just decide these are the 'churches' rather than the social halls.

@nightlyshift 22 күн бұрын

Excellent thought! I'm very much in favour of the "multi-purpose buildng for important tasks" idea, myself.

@micheleheddane3804 6 ай бұрын

Thank lads very stimulating

@lulubelle0bresil 6 ай бұрын

Congrats gentlemen, very exciting presentation! I believe I've seen images of the boar with traces of pigment somewhere very recently - if only I could recall where! (maybe Matt?) so look into it as maybe you won't need to keep it under wraps anymore. When I first went to Brussels and saw the infamous Manneken Pis I remember rolling my eyes at how tacky it was, never suspecting very similar images were already dear to our long lost ancestors... (then again maybe our female ancestors were already eye-rolling at the time? who knows...) LOL

@forestdwellerresearch6593 6 ай бұрын

These monuments were prehistoric discotheques simple as that.....from Göbekli Tepe to Stonehenge!

@lauraferreyra8489 6 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

@mkd4076 6 ай бұрын

Thank you Prehistory Guys. I will get there one day however your first impressions are a terrific description of true awe.

@clarkabrpi3428 Күн бұрын

Looking at a map of the sites discovered now, Gobekli Tepe seems to be in the center of all these areas. I do not think it's not a site for worshiping, but more a place where the local people came to learn of their history. Like now days where cities build a library or museum of historical data.

@mikebradt8080 6 ай бұрын

Has there been any estimations of population size? Also, has any human remains ever been found at the site?

@davidpotter6873 6 ай бұрын

Awesomeness.

@dianewilson7984 6 ай бұрын

Presumably the elevation of the site meant winds could often be a concern. The heavy stone entrance covers would prevent the loss of covers. Also instead of foxes, could these canine sculptures be of wolves.

@alextyler9912 6 ай бұрын

Great job guys, format works nicely, these could well form a body of work in it's own sphere. I love the way you're both willing to drift along a thought pattern until the other does a reality/subject check. Hmmm, noticed Rupert struggling with animal domestication. The problem is the word domestication, I'd rather go with 'useful allies' to describe cats & dogs. Which there was more research. . Diolch.

@jowest7020 6 ай бұрын

Excellent. Thank you. Question. What stone would they have used as a chisel for carving. I had a lesson on stone masonry using Maltese limestone , it’s fairly soft but I chopped off bits I didn’t mean to as I had angled my thin bladed steel chisel wrongly. And, are any practice pieces ever found?

@michaelfulford6330 2 ай бұрын

Lots of flint tools are found at the site.

@brett-lothian 6 ай бұрын

Perhaps they had domesticated foxes and the big houses were just that, the big house, precursor to the long house for the chief of the tribe and family. Love your work.

@SmallWonda 6 ай бұрын

Really enlightening - I follow other podcasters who recently visited GT, etc, not long after the earthquakes, and it seems Finds & Discoveries are coming thick & fast at these sites and the vail of time is being pushed back to reveal a truly rich and fascinating Past. How long before the stone infill around the T-Pillars is discounted as contemporaneous? I thought I had heard that plaster had been found in some places, and I'm guessing there was much more water around then than now. I do look forward to your film, as I'll never be able to get there now. Cats were very much a part of ancient Egypt, & they wouldn't have just appeared like that then, so I don't see why cats & dogs wouldn't have been around GT - look for gnawing evidence on those old bones! Thank you.

@hatfullofsky2470 6 ай бұрын

I'd be interested to know if the evidence of human settlement is thought to date back to the date of the T pillars etc approx 12,500years ago or if settlement came later on? I mean I'd expect the settlement artifacts to be older than the temple 🤔

@SmallWonda 6 ай бұрын

12:16 - Excellent News! I can't imagine an enormous site like that (and what of all the others in the region) being built for Ceremonies Only! Surely, if we look around our world at hunter-gatherer & nomadic communities how many of them flocked to permanent sites like this, I don't think I've heard of any? Where were the folk supposed to have the time or where with-all to undertake such enormous projects? And maintain them, remote from where they lived. - I don't see the logic to it. It would be like building the White Tower of London, leaving it vacant & merely gathering there on high days & holidays - I can't see how that would work. A green, an ancient tree, a hill, a cave or spring perhaps makes for a special meeting spot- - more like Burning Man or any festival, fete or fair, with people travelling from far & wide brining their accoutrements with them - which still happens today at modern & traditional gatherings. Look at Medieval churches & cathedrals, they aren't plonked in the middle of nowhere... I do hope answers will be forthcoming in our lifetimes, and very much appreciate the work you & others are doing to turn that hope into reality. Looking forward to your film - won't be easy, as it seems information on this changes every day!

@Walkinlookinlivin 6 ай бұрын

Strange to come across your podcast while I sit for making jewelry😅

@lengnauer78 4 күн бұрын

What is your impression of the potential damage done to the archeology by the placement of the ramps, their cement footings, the visitor center and the planting of the huge orchard on top of unexcavated structures?

@ingeleonora-denouden6222 6 ай бұрын

I watched this episode with the original 'live chat' at the side. Saw a discussion start on changing 'hunter-gatherers' in different words to describe those people(s). I asked myself 'why?' If they got their food through hunting and gathering I think it's very clear to call them 'hunter-gatherers'.

@yensid4294 6 ай бұрын

Hunter-gatherers were/are traditionally nomadic. I have heard/read "forager" in place of hunter-gatherer.

@ingeleonora-denouden6222 6 ай бұрын

@@yensid4294 it might be 'traditionally', but the word(s) itself do not have the meaning of 'nomadic' ...

@RalphEllis 6 ай бұрын

@kirkhunter146 6 ай бұрын

I think it was used for ritual sacrifice. Looking at it I cannot see a way or path from one structure to another either, each plot is built in isolation and enclosed.

@candui7278 6 ай бұрын

Nothing spiritual or ceremonial about any of these ancient megalithic structures. They were almost certainly all functional production facilities.

@JHaven-lg7lj 5 ай бұрын

I’m very curious about whether or not any fibers have survived in the holes that seem to have been used to hang things across the rooms. They would have needed quite a lot of line for those hangings and for the ladders, unless the ladders were pegged rather than lashed. And it seems like they would have needed a lot for lowering carved figures down and manipulating pillars and roof elements, too.

@ianrosie4431 6 ай бұрын

Were the properties more 'well-to-do' as you got closer to the monument?

@JunoDiovonaDemihof 6 ай бұрын

T-pillars and the Greek mythological stories about the Titans, also known as the elder gods, who apparently "ruled the earth before the Olympians overthew them". The ruler of the Titans was "Cronus" who was de-throned by his son "Zeus". Most of the Titans fought with Cronus against Zeus and were punished by being banished to Tartarus... Cronus -- was the ruling Titan who came to power by castrating his Father Uranus. His wife was Rhea. To insure his safety Cronus "ingested each of the children as they were born". This worked until Rhea tricked Cronus into "swallowing a rock"... Cannibalism ? Zeus would revolt against Cronus and the other Titans, defeat them, and banish them to Tartarus in the underworld forever.... burying the T-pillars and the old religion? Thank you for your video. looking forward to your new video chats. (added to at 10.10 am) Ταρσός = Anatolian name, from Hittite 𒋫𒅈𒊭 (Ta-ar-ša), possibly from 𒋫𒅈𒆪 (Ta-ar-ku), a god. The name may have entered Greek through Akkadian 𒋫𒅈𒅆𒅆 (Ta-ar-ši-ši). Derived terms Ταρσεύς (Tarseús) Ταρσόθεν (Tarsóthen) Descendants Greek: Ταρσός (Tarsós) Latin: Tarsus Old Armenian: Տարսոն (Tarson) Ottoman Turkish: طرسوس‎ (Tarsus) Turkish: Tarsus I still maintain, it does have to do with the Greek "Titan". Τειτάν (Teitán) τιταίνω (titaínō, “to stretch, to extend”), τίσις (tísis, “retribution”), τίνω (tínō, “to pay a price as a penalty, expiate”), Hesiod attempts to explain. Compare Doric Greek τίτας (títas), Ionic Greek τίτης (títēs, “avenger, punisher”). However, modern scholars doubt Hesiod's etymology. Jane Ellen Harrison asserts that the word "Titan" comes from the Greek τίτανος, signifying white "earth, clay, or gypsum," and that the Titans were "white clay men", or men covered by white clay or gypsum dust in their rituals.

@mr2wo 6 ай бұрын

Amazing stuff, so was this region an actual city as we would deem it nowadays?

@TankUni 6 ай бұрын

I didn't realize Withers was also into archaeology.

@aripiispanen9349 4 ай бұрын

♪♫♥Very Interesting !

@shirleynoble685 16 күн бұрын

Re: the “dog houses”. First divergent lineage of dogs found in Levant approximately 7000 YPB. However, first genetically undisputed dog found buried by humans 14200 YPB in Northern Europe. Bonn-Oberkassel dog found during quarrying at Oberkassel near Bonn, Germany. Proposed centers of dog domestication (3 proposed at present) are all quite far north of the Levant in areas which would have been occupied by hunter-gatherers at the time. But the situation with dogs is all a case of earliest found so far as it is with so many things. There is some evidence suggestive of steps toward domestication circa 30,000 YPB, so who knows what might turn up. I love animals but when I was trying to make a career choice over 50 years ago it never occurred to me that there would be archeological interest in horses and dogs. Turned out I was so very wrong. And cats - kitten buried with human on Cyprus 9,500 YPB.

@crow7291 2 ай бұрын

Do you think deforestation could have added to the land slides that buried GÖBEKLI TEPE? If they are clearing land for fire wood, or even for planting ancient grains.

@Mimi4UEyesNotBlue 10 күн бұрын

I think it was used as a place to do experiments mixing different kinds of animals. Just my thoughts.

@forgetful3360 6 ай бұрын

Advice for listeners: unless you're whacked on weed listen at 1.25x regular playback speed. Also start at 5 min, 30 sec.

@Maisiewuppp 6 ай бұрын

Why?

@chuckleezodiac24 6 ай бұрын

and don't forget your Adderall.

@duquesnesears5743 Ай бұрын

Love the commentary. But, seriously, no pictures?

@duquesnesears5743 Ай бұрын

No offense, how much data to stream to watch you guys sitting in front of microphones?

@orsonzedd 6 ай бұрын

All right the sequel to Five Nights at Freddy's I've been looking forward to

@bongofury3176 6 ай бұрын

the Pete and Dud of archaeology...

@boogy4you 27 күн бұрын

10,000 yrs is kinda hard to grasp, five times into the time of JC. I wonder how many humans were on the planet back then?

@paulroberts7429 6 ай бұрын

Does anybody know if gobekli tepe was tested for Terra Preta.

@MrJellyroll007 6 ай бұрын

Bugger the stones!!! What is that guitar????

@HBADGERBRAD 6 ай бұрын

Dammit I’m an hour late. Alright I’m ready go….

@oscargranda5385 3 ай бұрын

There are books or articles.....of all of these discoveries???

@geniexmay562 6 ай бұрын

Have there been any guestimations of population numbers at GT??

@The_Reality_Filter 6 ай бұрын

Many and more...

@kirkhunter146 6 ай бұрын

Given as how only a fraction of it has been uncovered so far how could that be possible?

@Ck-zk3we 6 ай бұрын

The landscape can not sustain that many settled people from just hunting. These people were framing wild crops and herding wild animals . Domestication takes thousands of years. What were seeing here is that process

@yensid4294 6 ай бұрын

Exactly

@allangardiner2515 6 ай бұрын

Rather than just saying that the "only a temple" idea is pervasive, it would be useful to trace the origin of this interpretation. In my view that history shows how the agendas of the funders of high-profile sites distort scientific archaeology.

@Andy_Babb 4 ай бұрын

28:41 Didn’t Neanderthal wear jewelry and decorate themselves with dark feathers? Were they just proficient enough at hunting and gathering that they did have some extra time to make jewelry and art? Would there have been winter months or a period of time which they would have enough meat and other sustenance that they had more time to evolve socially?

@jamesrmorris1952 5 ай бұрын

It was said that there was no water on the site and no domestic too, well there must have been water there if people are living there plus it makes more sense who they got the work force. I understand it was deliberately buried was the domestic part deliberately buried too?

@yensid4294 6 ай бұрын

Domestication of dogs happened between 14,000 & 29,000 years ago. And yes, they were used to protect grain from rodents. Certain breeds of Terriers were specifically bred for hunting vermin. Cats were attracted to the rodents around human settlements & basically domesticated themselves 😉 Dogs were first & I think horses were the last animal to be domesticated with cows, sheep & pigs inbetween.

@jamesrmorris1952 5 ай бұрын

hang on you say they aren't farmers but they are harvesting loads of beans, irrigating the fields, grinding seeds is it really a stretch to think that they were also planting some of what they harvest? if so how is that not farming?

@jamesrmorris1952 5 ай бұрын

You have to remember that these were built with stone, wood, bone and antler/horn only no metal. Could pre farming civilization really support such an enormous population.

@julianmetcalfe1070 6 ай бұрын

You could be standing in the cellars of a once bigger building

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