G2 vs BLG - How a single Cookie has Influenced a MSI Game with over a Million Viewers!

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Жыл бұрын

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@themedic1242
@themedic1242 Жыл бұрын
imagine telling players to not abuse the known bug instead of fixing it, especially on such event...
@dragonknight4982
@dragonknight4982 Жыл бұрын
Riot has done worse, they banned certain builds in previous tournaments, they literally don't care if their game is buggy/unfair
@yusufasikk
@yusufasikk Жыл бұрын
@@dragonknight4982 How?
@muhammedadel2606
@muhammedadel2606 Жыл бұрын
@@yusufasikk If you played Samira, you were not allowed to buy GA. Because your ult would go on if you died. Also Samira with GA had some other interaction problems when you played Viego. Thats why last Season, after it happend once on stage in LEC, nobody picked up Samira when they had Viego. She wasnt really picked a lot afterwards, so it didnt really matter. But still disgusting bug
@SleepyFen
@SleepyFen Жыл бұрын
​@@yusufasikk they've had issues before where, rather than fixing the issue (because there was no time and/or a fix might carry the risk of other things breaking), they banned certain combinations of items and/or champions. In this instance, I think they ought to maybe have banned cookies from the tournament rather than rewind games like these.
@itsallinthepast2944
@itsallinthepast2944 Жыл бұрын
@@SleepyFen they dont need to ban the cookie since its a bug that you can avoid while the samira case is not
@cakeman1715
@cakeman1715 Жыл бұрын
Here is what I know about the situation, I hope this can clear it up for some people. Some of this is speculative, let me know if I got anything wrong! BLG ON (Nami) seems to have bugged his biscuits at the 4 minute mark. He bought a refil potion, then was given biscuits, then undid the potion buy. This is likely what caused his biscuits to break. However, he had no way of knowing they were bugged at this time. Around two minutes later, ON was OOM when he saw the jng getting chased. Because the enemy bot has rotated up to chase, the obvious play for ON here is to R the wave so they could bounce it and base. He tried to use his biscuit for mana to shove wave, but it wouldn't activate at all. He IMMEDIATELY paused because that was the exact moment he realized his biscuits were bugged. It's important to note that Riot briefly UNPAUSED to confirm the jng kill, then investigated. They determined that the biscuits WERE in fact bugged, but they could not fix it. They also determined that the bug was not impactful enough to justify a chronobreak. Keep in mind that G2 STILL got the jng kill, and ON was forced to keep his bugged biscuits. He had to sell them after basing to make due with the situation. You can make some flimsy arguments that the pause hurt G2s mental, but it is undeniable that this bug and pause resulted in a tangable mechanical advantage for G2. I was personally rooting for G2 in this series, but I find it EXTREMELY unlikely that this was a malicious attempt by BLG to gain an unfair advantage. Regardless of what happened exactly from a mechanical perspective, two things remain to be said: 1. Booing a team is not ok. ESPECIALLY when nobody even knows why the pause was initiated in the first place. Good sportsmanship is important for a healthy competition, and that includes the fans. 2. The blatant racism and hate speech in the live chats was disgusting. Have some basic respect and human decency. It's just a game after all.
@jbillion
@jbillion Жыл бұрын
It's still likely ON did it intentionally. Especially when you look at how ON was just sitting in base. Overall you'd rather have the refillable effect over one cookie. There's no way to know, and it probably didn't affect the game outcome. However, you also can't say it was definitively unintentional
@notthisnow589
@notthisnow589 Жыл бұрын
@@jbillion That's cool, but it also don't change absolutely Nothing from the match. Does BLG gained anything from this pause? No. Does G2 Still had a Better lead, a FB Aphelios and Still manage to lose? Yes. And That's how the game Plays. I really doubt that something like this would be done out of malicious intent since Nothing changed in the big aspect of things.
@Nurmber
@Nurmber Жыл бұрын
@@jbillion If its intentional, he shouldve used it for a better item isnt it?
@jorgdonald2734
@jorgdonald2734 Жыл бұрын
Yeah like they needed to bug abuse to stomp G2
@gigagaming960
@gigagaming960 Жыл бұрын
​@@jbillion cookies is better usually as it gives mana, something he then tried to use it for to push wave - thats why he has them - to use more spells, which he then cant
@Gambley
@Gambley Жыл бұрын
People saying that ON "intentionally abused the bug to use later, see how he sold his ruby crystal and bought it again" are actually blind. He went faerie charm to ruby to ruby, which tells me it's more likely that he was indecisive on whether to take faerie or ruby and settled on ruby, but the timing with the biscuit caused the bug to occur
@riotsee8553
@riotsee8553 Жыл бұрын
The fact that this game is played in pro scene whit all these bugs tens of bugs.. Is just typical riot to me
@Berrk.
@Berrk. Жыл бұрын
The only cookie that wasnt a PDF file.
@wedmunds
@wedmunds Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@lukor-tech
@lukor-tech Жыл бұрын
Coockielol bashing in comments, what a time to be alive
@YoHoosierDaddy
@YoHoosierDaddy Жыл бұрын
This is totally Riot's fault. Bugs are everywhere in this game. Last year, TES vs GAM the MAW bug (Which basically cost TES the game) Couple of days ago, GenG vs T1 the Aurelion Sol bug Now this.
@notthisnow589
@notthisnow589 Жыл бұрын
God, this is beyond ridiculous. The kill on Viego was kept, G2 had a FB Aphelios but was still unable to win. G2 Stans need to accept the fact that better team wins, and no conspiracy theories will change that.v
@BlackHawk21ification
@BlackHawk21ification Жыл бұрын
Just because the bug abuse didn't bring anything to them doesn't mean it shouldn't be punished, he knew the bug, he used it to try to get an advantage, there should be consequence for that. It's not about wether or not it was usefull, exploiting a known bug in competitive pro play should be punished. yet nothing happened
@120rikeshlawoju2
@120rikeshlawoju2 Жыл бұрын
​@@BlackHawk21ificationRiot is more to blame for not fixing it
@yulwu6758
@yulwu6758 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackHawk21ification you swear on your mother's dick he knew the bug?
@reginaldmustardbacon5866
@reginaldmustardbacon5866 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackHawk21ification i honestly dont think he was trying to abuse the bug. What would happen if the bug went through? He would use a biscuit that gave him only HP from the potion active that transfered and not the mana that he needs right?
@thannguyenthanhdong1315
@thannguyenthanhdong1315 Жыл бұрын
you cannot disregard breaking a rule simply because “it had no impact” For example, if theres a bug that would allow a team to have an extra second during draft phase and they are using it, then they should be punished. The gravity of the punishment is a different matter, but a list of bugs and exploits are given to the players and they should be aware of it
@Erksah68
@Erksah68 Жыл бұрын
they paused it minutes after ... why
@ciaodar2457
@ciaodar2457 Жыл бұрын
they are going to delete cookies permanently. This may solve the problem. :dd
@Xhalonick
@Xhalonick Жыл бұрын
Didn't ON buy refillable in fountain then sell when he got biscuit? Seems sus for a pro player if they are familiar with the bug to then wait until a team fight to bring it to the officials attention
@iondustt
@iondustt Жыл бұрын
More likely he changed his mind when he got a cookie
@HextechLab
@HextechLab Жыл бұрын
I don't think it was intentional, he just did not realise it was exactly 4:00 when he undid the refillable. I don't think he would have bought and directly sold it with the cookie bug in mind. Would just be wasted gold.
@Xhalonick
@Xhalonick Жыл бұрын
@@HextechLab sold, returned, I misued the word, I meant undo purchase. Just really convenient timing is all I'm saying....
@oreoyo5639
@oreoyo5639 Жыл бұрын
@bingchilling Alright we accusing cheating off of facial expression now are we?
@imheretosleep
@imheretosleep Жыл бұрын
copium comment... Its hard to accept defeat.. I know... we know...
@sierraamaya
@sierraamaya Жыл бұрын
When i watched the pause i knew EU fans will have an excuse for lose againts a better oponent.
@imheretosleep
@imheretosleep Жыл бұрын
legit
@LappKek
@LappKek Жыл бұрын
C9 will get hard stomped by GENG can't wait😊😊😊
@nuraby_9228
@nuraby_9228 Жыл бұрын
@@LappKek c9 getting mega stomped doesn't change the fact that pathetic EU fanboys like you are making excuses because G2 lost to a biscuit. 🤣
@hushed6160
@hushed6160 Жыл бұрын
after watching this series i've come to the conclusion that caps is the worst paid professional mid laner in the entire world, maybe even across all the other roles. no amount of cope could change the outcome of this game.
@OCJau
@OCJau Жыл бұрын
Well, he played for a very long time and of course he's old already. You can't expect everyone to become like Faker.
@oliverstaunton10
@oliverstaunton10 Жыл бұрын
​@@OCJau not even baby faker?
@sangnguyenduy9690
@sangnguyenduy9690 Жыл бұрын
Better than Gam Kati :D
@hushed6160
@hushed6160 Жыл бұрын
@@OCJauOLD? LOL. caps hasn't even reached his prime yet, he's just a trash player. traditional pro athletes that use the body, which deteriorates and ages at a rate twice as fast as the brain, peak their careers into their 30s and 40s and some golfers even push 60+ esport pros can by far compete the longest out of the sports pool selection, but it also requires the most time invested so you see most pros dip out before 30 so they can take care of their kids that they accidently had.
@bounedjoumwsssim4721
@bounedjoumwsssim4721 Жыл бұрын
Juste make cookies an item that can't be sold and that it problème solved
@SleepyFen
@SleepyFen Жыл бұрын
There's no doubt a possibility that teams can and will abuse bugs in order to get a remake when the game isn't going their way. We've seen losing games remade to the advantage of the losing team several times, and it wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that some teams practice abusing bugs to remake high-stakes games like these once in a while. Now, proving that that's definitely what happened is a different matter entirely, and nobody here has the evidence necessary to back up such an accusation. Ultimately it's all just speculation. As for the comments in Twitch chat, racism isnt okay, but at the same time I think you need to dial back your expectations if you expect a live chat full of agitated fans to be a civil place. It's just internet hooligans. They don't represent the vast majority of fans. The vast majority of fans don't have Twitch chat open in the first place when watching esports because they recognize that there's no intelligent discussion to be had there. I think Riot made the right call to let the game go on as it was. Giving blg a remake would've been completely out of the question. Did it ruin G2's mental? I'm a G2 fan, but honestly who knows? The team plays a bit like the wind blows, and today didn't seem like a windy day.
@luiscortes2333
@luiscortes2333 Жыл бұрын
At that point they should just make it a win for the opposite team if they use the bug so that they dont even think of even bringing out the bug for a remake
@SleepyFen
@SleepyFen Жыл бұрын
@@luiscortes2333 at the very least, I think the judgement should always fall in favor of the team which didn't cause the bug. If the cookie bug here had been impactful to the gameplay (say, by being a stopwatch or other big active), then I think chronobreaking back until the moment before the bug is used, prohibiting the player from activating their cookie and forcing them to sell it at their earliest convenience is the right call. A remake should be completely out of the question if the team causing the bug is behind in any way. Riot made the right call by letting the game go on, since no advantage was gained from the bug. Whether the pause negatively impacted G2 in some way by disrupting their momentum isn't really something we can measure.
@rinx853
@rinx853 Жыл бұрын
The weird part is why is he realizes that when G2 try to pick off viego? Isn't that bug happen a while ago?
@Creme.Fraiche.
@Creme.Fraiche. Жыл бұрын
Yeah like how did he JUST notice the bug happen when Viego was about to die? Like how did he even know it was bugged out?
@theo3854
@theo3854 Жыл бұрын
yeah, it's just bug abusing.
@oreoyo5639
@oreoyo5639 Жыл бұрын
It not weird at all. You want him to use biscuit when he full hp? He tried using it there and it didn’t work.
@oreoyo5639
@oreoyo5639 Жыл бұрын
@@Creme.Fraiche. Tf do you mean? He press biscuit and it didn’t work. You think a pro player can’t tell when they use biscuit and it doesn’t work?
@Creme.Fraiche.
@Creme.Fraiche. Жыл бұрын
@@oreoyo5639 He didn't even use the cookie mate....
@HextechLab
@HextechLab Жыл бұрын
Do you think G2 could have won this game without a pause?
@Xhalonick
@Xhalonick Жыл бұрын
No lmao
@Xhalonick
@Xhalonick Жыл бұрын
BB can't even press the right button for stopwatch or stride breaker. This pause was irrelevant (thankfully)
@bence3676
@bence3676 Жыл бұрын
Yes because g2 would have been ahed. Not just in gold but in mental wich is important in league. Perhaps g2 could have get more objective
@notthisnow589
@notthisnow589 Жыл бұрын
​@@bence3676 But G2 was ahead. The Kill on Viego was kept.
@Creme.Fraiche.
@Creme.Fraiche. Жыл бұрын
G2 had so much momentum going for them and that got ruined by this pause over a fucking cookie.
@johngapud9934
@johngapud9934 Жыл бұрын
Quickshot really annoying af.
@piotrzwirowski8435
@piotrzwirowski8435 Жыл бұрын
I think there should be a time limit to 30s after the bug happening for reporting it. The fact that they would allow a pause during a teamfight for something happening more than 60 seconds before is ridiculous
@Nuvcore
@Nuvcore Жыл бұрын
So if someone abused this to get a stopwatch on their cookie and 60 seconds pass, it's fair game?
@gigagaming960
@gigagaming960 Жыл бұрын
You can only tell when you use the cookies and they arent using the cookies in base so no, that just doesnt help
@piotrzwirowski8435
@piotrzwirowski8435 Жыл бұрын
@@Nuvcore well, it’s down to riot to keep up a list of prohibited interactions, skins etc, and I think exploits as well. So what you described should never really happen. I just think that a situation where there is a minor bug, that doesn’t affect the fight gets it interrupted for long enough that there is a bathroom break, which hinders the flow of the game is damaging to the competitive integrity of the game being played, and it would be better if situations like this could be avoided in the future to preserve the purest and most fair form of competition possible.
@piotrzwirowski8435
@piotrzwirowski8435 Жыл бұрын
@@gigagaming960 how would it not help? It would prevent an insignificant event happening minutes before from potentially altering the course of the game
@imheretosleep
@imheretosleep Жыл бұрын
well if you rewatch the vod, BLG's support was having his mind blown what happened to his items. I would probably be in the blank state as well for a couple of seconds or minutes or so.
@Creme.Fraiche.
@Creme.Fraiche. Жыл бұрын
Okay first question. How did ON know that the cookie was bugged? second question. If he knew the cookie was bugged then how come he doesn't pause until 2 minutes later when their jungler is about to die?
@Creme.Fraiche.
@Creme.Fraiche. Жыл бұрын
ALSO just noticed that ON didn't even USE THE COOKIE. SO HOW THE HELL DOES HE KNOW IT'S BUGGED?
@Nuvcore
@Nuvcore Жыл бұрын
He might not have been able to use his cookie whatsoever
@xiujames636
@xiujames636 Жыл бұрын
​@@Creme.Fraiche. The issue is he can't use it, that's the bug, he couldn't use the biscuit. He had to sell the biscuit so he was playing with one less rune and G2 still lost.
@imheretosleep
@imheretosleep Жыл бұрын
@@xiujames636 FACTS
@Chadmeleon
@Chadmeleon Жыл бұрын
@@xiujames636 your region lost, loser mentality hurts to see
@binyot5505
@binyot5505 Жыл бұрын
Since it hasn't been fixed and it will never be it's clearly an intended mechanic.
@formidable4748
@formidable4748 Жыл бұрын
G2 fans blaming a pause for throwing a 2-kill lead 😂 Maybe you should blame the stopwatch or the ADC player that never flashed 😂
@skeel77730
@skeel77730 Жыл бұрын
The new "30 ping" 😂
@ZheyuanLi
@ZheyuanLi Жыл бұрын
what does that have to do with 300k viewers?
@Xhalonick
@Xhalonick Жыл бұрын
Riots spaghetti code is ruining their most viewed product in terms of pacing and fairness, especially if anything malicious was involved.
@ashryverxS
@ashryverxS Жыл бұрын
not to mention it had over 1m (excluding chinese)
@ZheyuanLi
@ZheyuanLi Жыл бұрын
@@ashryverxS what does that have anything to do with the game play?
@ashryverxS
@ashryverxS Жыл бұрын
@@ZheyuanLi why u asking me bozo, im just corecting the op
@HextechLab
@HextechLab Жыл бұрын
@@ZheyuanLi A bug like this happening on the big stage is much more impactful than it happening in the average solo Q game.
@tak8850
@tak8850 Жыл бұрын
I thought blg was banking riot to rewind or smth
@cadenglick7783
@cadenglick7783 Жыл бұрын
Coaches can pause too, I don't know who hit the pause. Regardless, coach or player, the fact the pause was executed a few minutes later seems extremely shady.
@CrescentedPotatoe
@CrescentedPotatoe Жыл бұрын
What’s shady is you coping that Eu had a chance with that kind of performance💀💀. Why is it shady? Tell me. Its a potion for God’s sake, why would you use a potion early on especially when its a biscuit fucking Eu tards. Of course you will have to use it in lane. As we can see from the replay, On needed mana for lane. Thats the best time you should use your biscuits if your brain cant comprehend that and apparently that’s when the pause started wow who would have thought. The fact that G2 got the advantage after the pause and On had to play without cookie runes and still got stomped shows how much brain and hands your region lacks
@indiancowpissdrinker7151
@indiancowpissdrinker7151 Жыл бұрын
cope eurofeg
@hrabia6558
@hrabia6558 Жыл бұрын
This propably dont change that much how many bugs in internatiol events G2 was victim
@TulioRandom
@TulioRandom Жыл бұрын
riot games small indie company
@imheretosleep
@imheretosleep Жыл бұрын
G2 STILL LOST THE GAME even though BLG on was playing with one less rune... Humans tends to make excuses when they lose... sad fact.
@JoshTGW
@JoshTGW Жыл бұрын
This goes to show you why Riot needs to start cracking down on these bugs. Whether BLG ON did this intentionally or not, the result is still the same. That result being the match was disrupted by unintentional behavior from the coding cripling both the tempo of the game as well as the mental fortitude and praparedness both teams had. This bug without a doubt damaged this match.
@idkmate1451
@idkmate1451 Жыл бұрын
DOOM MUSIC :D
@Juicesipper17
@Juicesipper17 Жыл бұрын
EU cope is so funny hahaha
@BlackHawk21ification
@BlackHawk21ification Жыл бұрын
this is clearly intentional by ON you see him buy ruby cristal and then undo to buy refillable right before cookie appears to re-undo again to buy the same ruby cristal, and then he by coincidence mention the fact right when XUN get caught in the river and is about to give first blood to Hans sama's aphelios... Nah, BLG should have lost that game at that moment and went on for game 5.
@CrescentedPotatoe
@CrescentedPotatoe Жыл бұрын
The only thing that is lost here is your brain😂 cope more
@johngapud9934
@johngapud9934 Жыл бұрын
🤡🤡🤡
@Namieee
@Namieee Жыл бұрын
Beta game lmao
@mnsmchncs
@mnsmchncs Жыл бұрын
hard cope
@Riptide09
@Riptide09 Жыл бұрын
Thank god this bug happened so delusional G2 fan have an excuse haha 😂
@Heisenberg_.-
@Heisenberg_.- Жыл бұрын
G2 win
@eray3480
@eray3480 Жыл бұрын
I hate cheters.
@samuelt8825
@samuelt8825 Жыл бұрын
Could be not intentionnal in particular when he refilable potion is not the best one to make that (if he really want to cheat he could do it when team fight coming with more broken item)
@MonsterBandage
@MonsterBandage Жыл бұрын
@@samuelt8825 People would notice if it was the more useful actives
@ryanw2945
@ryanw2945 Жыл бұрын
G2 WILL WIN WORLD N MSI IF CHINA DIDNT PRESS THE PAUSE! IS A FACT!!!!!!
@minhhai2351
@minhhai2351 Жыл бұрын
or maybe he just accidentally causes with nami, 10% missing mana worth than 100 health.
@oreoyo5639
@oreoyo5639 Жыл бұрын
I hate sore loser. Blg was the better team so cry.
@ryanw2945
@ryanw2945 Жыл бұрын
G2 WILL WIN WORLD N MSI IF CHINA DIDNT PRESS THE PAUSE! IS A FACT!!!!!!
@skeel77730
@skeel77730 Жыл бұрын
The new "30 ping" 😂
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