Oh please even Ares said “For the sake of FRIENDSHIP”

100% agree. Great scene and great decision by the writers. Gab and Ares both know the "for friendship" thing is BS. He's just manipulating her.

Yes she is. She just had to be Gabrielle.

I agree and the late great Kevin Smith was also a great actor. I know people talk about the chemistry between Lawless and O'Connor, and rightfully so, but it seems everyone in that great cast had chemistry with each other, it was the great writing that would let that play out!!

@@MrAddonald9 true... They had such great chemistry it's like they were all friends and hangout apl the time

Exactly lol

It s based on the same idea, the god of war, Aries sign is dominated by Mars which is actually the god of war, Ares for the greeks and Mars for the romans.

@@eeeccc3562 But english spelling of these words is defined regardless of history

🤣🤣🤣lmao

Blame her anger on Ares. He has a way of doing that.

@@ginay8800 I think they meant in the gayest way possible😏

Yandere

@@guesswho7159 lol

EXACTLY!!!!! When Xena said yes and walked away that's all it took for Gabby. She became seethingly jealous. The yin and yang. She has her good, but def a decent amount of bad in her too. Had she let the good win, she would have accepted it, cried, sulked, and been miserable hoping for Xena to come back.

It was quite interesting and unexpected to explore the darkness in Gabrielle

Really loved how they tied this episode into The Debt. Lots of depth. Great choices made.

LOL "BFF" xDDDDD They were a hell of a lot more than that

@@ladycalderone99 That is true! But they weren't acknowledging it then. That's later in the series. LOL

I completely agree and you said that very well. Oftentimes when a character gets jealous and feels replaced after someone they love develops a bond with someone else, we see that character as weak and even pathetic. But I think that's unfair We're social creatures who thrive on connection. It's natural to be hurt and resentful when we feel a wedge has been driven between us and someone we love.

Yeah I think this is when Gabrielle had to swallow the bitter pill she'd hurt Xena on purpose, and she started to see it was closer than just friends

First, we need to accept the past of the people we have in our lives, our spouses, our friends. Second, if we try to isolate our loved ones from also having other people they care about it s possessiveness and toxicity, not a healthy and authentic feeling of love. It s actually what abusers do. Gabrielle was very jealous of every living creature that came in contact with Xena, except maybe Joxer.

In all fairness, when Gabrielle said she was going to leave Xena for Perdicas she basically indicated that Perdicas meant more to her than Xena did so yeah that excuse kind of falls apart. Also, Xena let Gabrielle go willingly because it was Gabrielle's happiness that mattered. Gabrielle got petty because she realized she wasn't the source of Xena's goodness alone. That someone before her had nurtured it..in fact two people did. Lao Ma and M'Lila. So yeah Gabby got petty and because of that...HOPE lol.

@@isaiahangelo yea but their feelings for each other wasn't as serious at that time.

That gal has spirit

Renee is a great actor

I grew up in DIC Sailormoon. and Amara and Michelle (Haruka and Michiru) were always weirdly close. so when I looked at the original anime and learned they weren't cousins it made total sense and I always kinda suspected. but with Xena and Gabrielle I didn't see it till much much later like when i was in my twenties

@@Scully818 in my country there was somethin odd scene that im sure it had get censored. Well im not sure but maybe i realise the gayness thing on Xena was around 7th grade? Younger than that? Im not even sure Sailormoon and Xena aired on the same era in my country anyway

@@Scully818 anyway it wsnt only haruka and michiru that showed gayness. There hapend to Joicite?(how to spelt it name again?) one of the 4 antagonist that had a blonde hair. It been dubbed with a man voice but his act very feminims and act intimate with one of the other guy. And then the other 4 transgender sailors that was make my inocent litle girls brains confused a whole seasons. You can said it can be banned on my country this time. Our country kind of againts the LGBT stuff

Honestly it's perfect the way it is. There is no need to add unnecessary romance bullshit.

@@ChildOfAshes1 I know Lawles and O'Connor want to Fix ending. I am not sure were I stand on having romance in the open. On one hand a limited series with thr original actresses, fine long as it over don just to ackownledge it exsistse. A reboot that would take away from the original series. But Xena's death felt forced to me, so i'm onboard fixing that 100%. I hates show just character just because they can, Game of thrones and 24 come to mind good examples.

@@ChildOfAshes1 Agreed. I like the fact that they kept it a mystery and tbh I feel like that is one of the reasons why the show has such devoted fans. People love to speculate.

Sarah G it was romantic tho

They said they’re soulmates, it’s obviously romantic.

It's technically not a secret though. She and Xena acknowledged part of this in the episode with the Green Dragon. While the full issue wasn't addressed it also wasn't consciously hidden from Xena. Gabrielle herself didn't fully realize the depth of her feelings as 'jealousy' only that the taking of an 'innocent life' was something she would not stand for. That's why this episode was necessary.

I think Gabrielle crossed over because at that time she felt liberated. She hadn't realized back then the very root of the problem that was mostly subconsciously hidden to the point where not only she didn't acknowledge it but she didn't even realize it. In her mind she did it to save Xena and her intentions had been good. Xena on the other hand at that point felt the guilt profoundly. She hadn't been fooling herself and her mentality wasn't playing tricks on her. It is like when you go to the therapist and you try to find the root of the problem but it is not always easy because you can't identify it yourself since it is too deeply ingrained in parts of your soul you can't reach or are at a place you don't even know they exist. That can create phobias and become a source of crippling emotional problems which later on happened with Gabrielle that had to go to the temple and go through all those trials to get the epiphany and understand what she truly felt and what really motivated her. She had been lying to herself without realizing it. Like a placebo effect. But I believe that when she crossed over the barrier in Bitter Suite she really felt as if she had cleansed herself and that belief got her through. It is not so much as the objective fact as it was the subjective way of feeling over a fact. This is why Xena couldn't pass until she let go of that burden that she had acknowledged before she got to that point but chose to keep it a secret for her own reasons.

@@maevelin Wow! Well said! And totally agree with you.

It was buried so deep in her subconscious not even illusia got it out. Plus Solan did it to get X and G back together to save their lives.

Nothing beats good cinematography on film for me. It has a texture that digital will never have and is able to create mood through lighting choices and other natural means.

Gabrielle let Ares get to her.

I don’t know about that. Gabrielle’s was the fusion of the two tropes. Xena’s was because of Lucy’s real life pregnancy.

Tostada Jones Well they’re women, and just because their badass women doesn’t mean they shouldn’t have children lol.

Tostada, i agree with you. True comment. i thought it was dumb also, not sure where the writers were trying to go with it. My guess is they were tring to feel out the viewers to see if it would take off. The kids story line never made sense.

jo monticristo FAF

Yep

Maybe Callisto was the daddy

Lol, nice one.

why was Gabrielle naked? what xd

I noticed that too...! What is this, an easter egg?

@@Losrandir more like a pair of Christmas hams :)

Yeah 😀

Don't worry. Xena got even by dragging Gabby across rocks with Argo in Season 3 and killing her with the Chakram in Season 5. Beautiful relationship, huh? lol

She really is the worst, a friend of mine suggested teh show was really about her and it was then I realized what a terrible person she was and the show was ruined for me

@@Nepthu We dont know if the baby really killed the knight or her father did it. Hope manipulated Gabrielle to trust her. Gabrielle killed her daughter. Xena couldnt do the same with her own evil daughter.

@@Violet2148 Because Xena's daughter was prophesied to ending the Gods and creating a new era. I wouldn't want to kill her either plus Gabrielle's daughter was pure evil, Lydia was just raised by Ares lol

@@BlackGirlMarvel And yet Lydia killed more people. Gabrielle wanted to believe some part of her was in Hope too. She paid the price for her mistakes.

Actually Renee was pretty fit. that's probably her

Yes, sadly from a fall while filming a movie.

*Ares. Aries is the zodiac sign.

@@ginay8800 He wasn't filming a movie actually he was at a studio lot in China waiting for a ride and decided to climb a prop wall for a movie that was being filmed there (he was not in the movie), there were no safety measures in place and he ended up falling 3 stories and died from his injuries later in hospital.

@@ginay8800 Omg wow

@@SjofnBM1989 😱