Thanks man! Appreciate you sending this over :)

@GadgetryTech thanks for another amazing review and solid advice and comparisons! @FreshReviewsYT you need to put the Aretes on your wall hack tier list please!

Damn boss people really respect you and what you do. You two are my trusted reviewers when I am interested in something about gaming btw!!

@@equiknox_ that’s very much appreciated. Thanks so much

@@GadgetryTechwhat is ur best gaming IEM with a max price range of 400 euro’s?

Thanks so much for the kind words! I hope you enjoy them

@@GadgetryTech Thinking about buying the arete to switch out with the orchestra lites(which I love)but don’t want to just eat it on the orchestra lites. How about u trade me one of your cheap but decent desk dac/amps u don’t really use. I’ll send first🤷🏾‍♂️

Haha thanks man! One day!

Wow - calm down there, Little Girl!

🤣 dude I just happened to have both out and had a wth moment. Thank god it’s a good shape

Thanks! Any specific models you had in mind for comparison?

@@GadgetryTech To be honest it was mainly against the Maxwells. I love them, but the comfort is starting to get to me. If the Atlas Air isn't too much of a compromise in sound quality then I am sold!

Nice, thanks!

On PC? I use an XLR mic, low profile arm, and connected to Elgato Wave XLR. On console, whichever headset I'm using at the time. I usually don't use IEMs on Xbox because I rarely play solo when I'm on it. For PS5, I change it up quite often.

@@GadgetryTech excellent choice I use the ELGATO wave 3 mostly for convenience and save space, had good sound but I don know how to apply the effects/filters to talk with my squad using DISCORD

@@GadgetryTech I’m looking at IEMS for the PS5 for competitive gaming! I’m not really a sound tech so right out the box would you recommend these or the super mix 4 or EM6L for directional and footsteps ? Awesome channel by the way I just subscribed!

Or Epos gsx 1000 to add more of your options 😂

Absolutely

This is my question as well, the Orchestra Lite has been EXCEPTIONAL for FPS games in my experience, especially when it comes to discerning front vs rear directionality which most full size headphones, let alone IEMs struggle with. Also worth mentioning if your'e struggling with OL fit as the reviewer is here, I found the Kbear 07 and Tri-Clarion tips to make them fit both very well, and very comfortably. Spinfit W1s didn't work all that well with that IEM though to me. Fresh puts them above the OL, but then he did make them. If other reviewers corroborate that it's a step up then I'll grab the Arete.

​@@NeonMako better to upgrade to Simgot Supermix 4. This guy also recommended it in another video.

@@eboboboy Supermix 4 is worse than the Orchestra Lite for comp gaming. (but then it is also a hundred bucks cheaper) For music it's personal preference, and if you do other stuff the Supermix is probably your preference there, but for purely gaming the Lite is very, very hard to beat withough passing 350 bucks or swapping to similarly priced open back headphones. For anyone also asking the question I had; I did end up with an Arete to try an compare, and it's marginal, it really is marginal, but the Arete > OL for comp gaming. ESPECIALLY when it comes to rear directionality from 4 to 7 o clock, which is where audio advantages can really save your butt in games. It is also more precise in it's directionality across the board, but again, it's a small gain. And for music it's much more fun than the OL, with far better note weight and anything 250hz and below having way more impact. (OFC 'Fun' is relative to the user in the audio world.) As well as a fair bit more sense of 'air' in the highs. But then both my OL and Arete were very close to 200 dollars shipped, making them effectively the same price for me, but I'd take the Arete given the choice betwen the two having now owned both. The caveats; Arete has an issue in Hunt: Showdown specifically that the OL doesn't, where some sounds 'jump' out at you from way WAY further away than they should and mess up relative distances, which is usually an issue the OL has in certain games (and with voice comms), so for that game it's reversed. Still overall better than the OL for Hunt, but it is a thing to be aware of. Arete also has the worst cable I've ever seen on an IEM, and that includes stuff like the original Moondrop Chu or Salnotes Zero:2. It's also worse than the iffy cables on the Truthear Hexa/Zero. It came twisted, never stays flat/straight, is light and VERY thin and has a slippery 3.5 jack housing. The OL cable is words ahead, and even cheap (but rather good) Tripowin Zionie cables are too. So I'd factor that into the cost from the get go IMO. Have the purple Zionie on mine (which I borrowed from my Quartets) The 0.78mm 2-pin socket is VERY grippy on my Arete too, concerningly so, although it's possible this is a one off issue, as I don't exactly have multiple copies to compare. Be VERY careful removing any cables you have on it, wiggling it gently from top to bottom of the IEM seems to be the safest method. Arete tips are also a bit shit in terms of quality and isolation since they are very thin, but they do actually seal well enough and sound just as good as much better tips, so they work but they could have done slightly better here. Kbear 07s are basically just better built versions of the Arete stocks. Tangzu Sancai Balanced are very good on it too. I find Spinfits to be too long for them really, as they push the IEM out for a shallower fit too easily. OL's stock tips are famously terrible, so it's pretty even there out of the box. Hope this is useful to anyone considering the same question!

I would still take the Arete over the SM4 overall, but yeah without EQ I don’t think the SM4 is a great pick for Radiohead either. With the Qudelix 5k that’s a toss up! I guess it depends how you’ll connect to the Arete if you don’t have a 5k?

@@GadgetryTech I was just thinking I could pick up the Qudelix for the EQ features with the savings from the cheaper price on the Supermix’s. For the Arete’s I could still get the Qudelix or something similar if it was worth it, but I’d more likely just run with something simple like the Apple dongle. I could use EQ for them on my PC but not very well on iPhone in that case, but that’s not that big of a deal

Where are you finding the arete for $200 (or sm4 for $85)

@@DloBlack Linsoul is having a sale rn and I have a $50 voucher

@@adamsandler8114 thanks best I saw was aliexpress with code USSS25 to get it to 209 after tax

Spinfit w1 or JVC 1000++ for daily, dunu s&s for fps games.

He said in the video, EM6L or grab a little more cash and pick Arete

@@317Amg I am going to buy the EM6L , thx for the info

You can buy blue tooth adapters for them. There will be some latency since its not using a receiver,

Lmao who hurt you 😂

You don’t trust Chi Fi?

If you really don't want Chinese source gear, then I'd think the IE200 from Sennheiser is a good starting point. Even their IE200 and IE300 are assembled in China.

@@GadgetryTech thanks for the response, at least Sennheiser isn’t a Chinese company. Are there also wireless IEMs you would recommend?

Probably would have been if he and I played together a few months ago lol