I mean thats a no brainer

Yeah this isn't gain staging, this is routing

Yeah I'd like to understand that a bit too, Ahee, if you have a minute. Simply adding these all up is not necessarily the magic. Afterward, what levels do you set your channel, utility gain (though doesn't look like you use that much), gain on each effect, each limiter, etc - so that over the course of the signal routing, you still get a clean and clear signal at the right level at the very end? And maybe a bit on WHY you would turn this up and that down along the way? I would be surprised if the answer was unity gain on everything.... Nice videos BTW, not dissing above, just asking for more more moooore!

It is in reference to his levels, and shows how he groups different elements of the song to different premasters, plus he can add effects and whatever to whole groups of sounds, like drums, sub, melody , rhythm vocals, fx. It is sound design in a way, layering and mixing your sound to fill all the space available, I love mixing and mastering, thanks AHee, for this tutorial bruh! ✌🏽

Agreed.

That's what I expected too. Hmmm misleading title

LOL right

so group chain is routed to the pre master and not the master as showed in the video?!

audiowav3 I just learned this is actually called “Brauerizing” and is a top mixing engineer technique: There is a similar approach in the pop and mainstream world. Michael Brauer started emulating this approach in the 80s from his mentors. brauerizing.wordpress.com/2014/03/19/brauerizing-a-how-to-guide/

@@OfficialAHEE Thanks for the insight! I'm applying what I learned from your video and what I will be researching on Brauerizing to my new track.

Aaron Stevens did u see the one I posted last week?

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When he put the limiters on it became gain staging

can you explain what you mean by this

Ableton is at default post fader send. That means whatever signal you are sending to the fx depends on the level of your channel as opposed to prefader where the level of the sent signal is independant of channel level or the signal level you are sending into fx. For eg: if you r in post fader and you r sending a synth in a reverb and the channel volume or gain is at -6 db, it will send reverb of -6db(ofcourse given that your signal is all wet), But in prefader it will send full range probably 0dbfs. So in post fader if you take the channel volume down the reveb will come down accordingly but in prefader it wont. Hope that helps.@@noahhenderson

@@whosagoodboi6217ahhh okay. so by default ableton is kinda how you’d normally want it ? does he have it pre-fader in the video? i can’t tell

Shubham Singh I did! Here it is: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j7alidGCqK2UdqM.html

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I personally don't use return tracks, I find them annoying as they take up so much screen space. You can achieve the same results by routing to audio tracks like in this video. But if you want to use them just turn up the lil wheel on the right hand side of the track or if you're unfamiliar there are loads of YT vids just look up "How to use Return Tracks". Cheers

he's probably processing both chains simultaneously within the chain group on top of all the other processing before it feeds into the premaster

It let's you monitor and control the peak value at each stage. Also small amounts of limiting at different stages helps you inch sounds forward in the mix, getting your mix louder and louder, inch by inch.

Labden yes before the premaster b/c drums are sent to the premaster

I put mine on the chain group because that’s where everything except the drums, effects and vocals go

@@SENRALL side chain the chains group to the k/s group

Abletons stock limiter is less transparent and depending on how aggressively you're limiting the chain/group it will be a bit more noticible. Will still work make no mistake, but you can't get away with quite as much limiting unit it's noticible with the stock limiter. That being said, the idea here is to use multiple limiters individually so that your master limiter has to do less work, so if you were to be limiting your groups too aggressively you'd be missing the point of using multiple limiters anyway. Tldr: you can use stock limiters if you push them gently

Brian B AT2020USB

Looks like he is using Ableton 9 in this - it is much less colourful than 10 but if you look around you will find plenty of great ableton 10 themes

I was surprised at first as well, but that's how Skrillex's is set up in the video he posted. If all the steps are followed, then having the group going to the master doesn't matter since the routes are going to the premaster and it works. :)

@@OfficialAHEE I was wondering this same thing actually. I assume you could simply treat the actual "Ctrl G" group that the 3 chains are in as the chain group with the basic and hype chains going into it first, and then sending that group to the premaster. Wouldn't that have the same effect as the setup in the video?