Oh my god kev you honestly made my eyes water with this comment haha geez man thank you sooo much, this comment made my day, and weekend, and week and everything haha.

Didn't Tyrion mention something like this in Season 6? Something about great conversations in great rooms?

Shows she has picked up a few things of Cersei, if we think back to the "armour dress" she wore in S2 before Blackwater Bay battle

Thank you Linda!! I've removed the troll :) sorry you had to get that undeserved treatment from that ass hehe. And I've already mentioned it to you in private but for anyone else reading this, the book version will be out in a couple days!!

Thank you so much. Looking forward to it 💜

Loved it too and never saw that coming... so great.

I know! I'm worried they'll take her out now or kill pod

LOL!!! yaaaahh

Yeah took me a while to realise that, as I've seen a few Gwendoline Christie interviews and Comic Con appearances, but it did strike me when someone mentioned it that it is indeed the first time we have ever seen the character smile in the show. It was great too as it occurred amongst friends who all had respect for her and genuinely pleased after all the mockery she has received throughout her life

A bit on the nose if you ask me. Sort of silly tbh.

@@DNotzz im with you seemed very forced, unless the girl turns out to be melesandre...

That pretty much spot on, brother. Completely agree. I've said the same thing. He gave up the Northern crown and didn't have to, but he did it for his love for Dany.

I agree, it is my favorite also.

I think a lot of people have misread that scene. Most commonly people seem to say that Dany is jealous that Sansa can inspire loyalty. I disagree, Dany can obviously inspire loyalty. What Dany is longing for is the family that she never had. She has no brother or sister or half-brother or foster brother to turn to. No nostalgia from a happy childhood. No lifelong friend or companion. No memory of parents who loved her. Dany is, and pretty much always has been, on her own. Jorah is the closest she has to family.

@@dragon-ed1hz I think you're right, and I think this series has subtly emphasized and foreshadowed that difference between Sansa and Dany in a couple places as well, such as the episode where the Starks work together to undo Littlefinger, and where Arya reminds Jon to remember that he's family, and Theon's story arc in which he's reminded that he is more stark than he ever was a Greyjoy, and even as far back as when Ned Stark told Arya that "the lone wolf dies, the pack survives". Even Tywin Lannister, after a fashion, tried to drill a similar lesson into his children, though his family ultimately fell apart at the seams because of its dysfunctions, including Tywin's own problems. Dany has succeeded in spite of never having a family to fall back on so far, but she's been the "lone wolf" up until now, and has shown little sign of that ever changing. As you said, her advisors and followers were the closest thing she had to family, but she'd banished Jorah twice for making mistakes, beheaded her most loyal followers when they made mistakes, threatens Tyrion for his mistakes, has spent more time ignoring the advice of everyone else more often than she listens to it, and she hasn't had a stable romance since Drogo died (and even that relationship, though it had grown over time into a marriage based on mutual respect, had a nightmarish start and finish!) Being unforgiving to her "family", being unwilling to "bend the knee" in loyalty to them, and refusing to trust or rely on them seem to bode ill for her future. If Denaerys doesn't learn something about how to bond with her "pack" fast from the Starks and her other allies, she's going to end alone in tragedy as the sort of "lone wolf" that Ned warned Arya about.

@@pietrayday9915 You make some good points, but let's remember a few things: Jorah didn't just make a mistake; he betrayed her. Took awhile and a lot of effort and suffering on Theon's part to win back Sansa's and the other Starks' trust after he betrayed them, didn't it? And remember, the second time Dany banishes Jorah, she's following Tyrion's advice. The only loyal follower she beheaded was Mossador, who went directly against her orders by murdering a prisoner in Dany's custody. She was trying to establish the rule of law and to show that it applied to everyone, advice she took from Barristan Selmy. Jon beheaded Slynt because he directly disobeyed an order. As for a "stable romance," I'm not sure how that is of consequence here. Sansa hasn't had one, Arya hasn't had one, and neither has Jon since Ygritte died (if you could ever call that "a stable relationship"). Dany's relationship with Daario was far more stable, even if not built on love on her part. She has certainly trusted Tyrion and he has made mistake after mistake. She is understandably upset with him, yet she does listen to Jorah and stands by Tyrion. She has listened to her advisors far more than anyone else. Jon didn't listen to Sansa before the BotB, did he? Or about giving the Houses to the loyal Northerners. Or about going South. Sansa doesn't listen to Jon when it comes to Dany. Dany has certainly shown loyalty to her advisors many times. That's not the same as having a family, though, is it?

Spot on dude!

@@dragon-ed1hz love this yeah! It lines up with my thoughts of Dany eventually realizing that what she always wanted was a home and a family and not the throne, I think this is pretty much what her vision at the House of the Undying was telling us

i love gil too, less that i loved him with itamar but new chicky is cool..... i wont watch chris though he's a prick.

Who are Chris and Gil? What am I missing?

Chris is SmokeScreen, a very knowledgeable, intelligent, and plain-spoken commentator. Chris gives much more insight from book canon and lore, while here we get amazing insight to the story from Valentina's knowledge of filmmaking. Gil is GOT Academy. I'll let you find what to like there. :)

Yep

Hash tag me too

Hard to ignore the present he left inside of her.

Oh no! Not a leech!

He's the only man that would love her for who she is, and not try to change her.

@@lella2201They are so right for each other.

Like, Valyrians being the spawns of the WW? Or just the Targs?

I would guess the Vals at first then the Targs.

I took it to mean Euron and Dany/John. Kraken Vs. Dragon.

Thank you!! I've wanted to do that but I usually have people over at our place, if I was watching it on my own it would be easier >_< but come watch my tuesdays night and wednesday streams on twitch! we have some awesome episode discussion on there :D

Thanks!!

Good point. People know this show and the characters aren't black and white. Even if Danny does know Jon may not want the throne, people have been elevating him all his life when he was only a bastard. Who is to say this track record does not continue. Conversely, Jon may decide he'll own this one because he'll be a better ruler or maybe together he breaks the wheel with Dany. The beauty of this show is the different shades of grey.

@@shockwave1126 Even simpler than that, consider the fact that we don't know his motivation or why he didn't want to be king in the north .. maybe because he was a bastard he felt not deserving or felt as an outsider .. but now that he knows he is the legitimate king, that might change what he wants .. we just don't know enough to make any assumptions right now ..

@@TheHigherSpaceAgree with you. This can go in so many directions.

I want to make more videos so badly but I'm so slowww haha I'm only able to make one per week. I do theorize during my Tuesday and Wednesday livestreams on twitch though! and sometimes on twitter hehe

I understand this feeling for sure. I think there's different ways to interpret their relationship because we didn't really see them growing up so to say that they thought of each other as sibilings is mainly an assumption, unless there's a reference for this in the books that I'm forgetting. But if they were raised as siblings then why did Theon always felt like an outsider, and like he didn't fit in? I think there's something there. He probably wasn't very close to Sansa either and well they never thought of each other as blood relatives so I do think that after they're all grown up they could develop feelings for each other

Ahahaha niceeee 🤣

Maybe this friend was a little less invested in the characters... I really thought this was nice for the fans of every character

He's not the sharpest tool in the box though.

@@davedogge2280 Jon just doesn't have time for the clever bullshit!

@@davedogge2280 Maybe in the show. Jon in the books was younger and more intelligent

Somebody has to think about survival. Sure won't be thes bickering hens at winterfel trying to decide who's in charge

Thanks Elena!!!

Jamie is save he must face cersei again (valonquar) and theon might survive as well because alfie teased that theon and euron have scenes together( which didnt happen when he rescued yara)

Yeh, I knew a lot of people wouldn't see it, but a lot of others do!

Sadly her brother's influence was not the greatest on Dany...But she can learn and I expect her to do just that... GRRM said all the clues to the ending are in season 1. I believe that Dany at the end of it...just wants to go 'home' rather than just lead a Kingdom... the battle to come might open her eyes to the simple reality of vanquishing the NK and staying alive... who wants to rule over an army of the dead?

@@deenick8794 Dany leave King's Landing in Winter (the snow falling in the throne room) to go North beyond the wall. Then she find a hut (home) with Khal Drogo (a dragon, a Targaryen, Jon Snow) and her child (she get pregnant). She leave the throne because she doesn't want the throne, she want a home. She always wanted to return to Braavos, to the house with the red door of her childhood. Robert/Ned scene about joining their families -> Arya and Gendry. Gendry being the son of Cersei and Robert (I think he was exchanged with another when sick by Varys, to weaken the succession to the throne for a Targaryen Restoration - but Varys, being Varys, could not kill him).

i do think they are going to get rofl stomped at winterfell. I like that you have missandei instead of greyworm. I pretty much agree with your predictions, but i would add varus to the list

I think Denaerys herself actually explained that in some dialogue in the show recently, I believe to Sansa when Sansa asked "What about the North?": reaching for the throne is the only thing Dany has known her entire life, it was the only thing that was important to her brother, the only "real" family she'd ever known. There's also an implied parallel to Tyrion and governing: Tyrion seems to have been surprised to find that he liked governing and that it was something he was really good at, and Tyrion was crushed when that was taken away from him by his family; Dany, too, seems to like conquest and to be good at it, and having that taken away from her would almost certainly kill a part of her, too... Dany and Tyrion are characters who had nothing to live for, until they got a tatse of their respective versions of leading, and would have nothing much left to live for should that power be taken away from them. In fact, that parallel could be extended to Sansa, who was raised to be a Lady to some powerful noble or prince and to have his babies, and thought at first that it's all she could do, and all she really wanted. She might have been good at that, and with the right lord would have probably been happy doing it, but that was taken away from her very quickly the moment her father was arrested for treason, through the long series of horrors she endured. In the end, Sansa found that she had other things to live for than her version of power: when all else was gone, what she wanted more than anything was to go home to her family, not to regain any position of power that was "hers by right". Like Sansa, it seems like Dany would have been happy to have been Khal Drogo's husband and to have raised his babies, only to see that taken away from her. One wonders how Dany's story might have been different, if she'd been left with anything other than the Iron Throne to live for?

@@pietrayday9915 Fair point, but isn't governing and conquering something very different. You can govern your kingdom for as long as you live ... but once Dany has the throne or even the entire world; then what?

Jon did for love

@@aphrodisiac2162 that wasn't the only reason

She wants to break the wheel yet wants to rule the seven kingdoms. Breaking the wheel would mean getting rid of the Iron Throne yet it’s all she wants. What Varys said could also be applied to Jon. He comes from 2 great houses, is fair and just, and thinks about other before himself. Also, he’s never wanted power yet he inspires loyalty and is chosen to lead. Dany thinks she’s entitled to the throne bc of her name. It’s like Val said the ppl see has a foreign invader who wants to rule over them. As far as “saving the North” Dany didn’t want to save the North last season. She refused to help Jon unless he bent the knee. She was also more worried about Cersei taking back the lands she won in the FOF 2.0 than the NK and his army. She agreed to help after she saw the threat and her dragon was killed. Dany really had no choice to but to help defeat the NK bc then she’d have no kingdoms to rule. Dany isn’t fit to rule bc she’s unstable when it comes to ppl not doing what she wants. She uses her dragons as power. Jon never had to use fear to try to rule others. He’s always tried to get ppl to work together and achieves this by showing them that he’s willing to ‘walk the walk’ per say. Plus if anything Meereen showed us how Dany is an incompetent ruler who refuses to compromise.

@@penelope7880 OK, let's take your arguments one at a time. Breaking the wheel does not necessarily mean getting rid of the Iron Throne. Power must be consolidated before it can be redistributed. In other words, if there are kings and queens here and there, the wheel will not be broken; it will simply become a plethora of wheels, as it was in the days before Aegon the Conqueror. Dany agrees to let Yara take back the Iron Islands only if Yara agrees to stop the reaving and raping that the Iron Born have traditionally engaged in. When Dany took over Slaver's Bay, she allowed the people to choose their own rulers, but, one would assume, she would not tolerate rulers who wanted to reinstitute slavery. Dany is concerned with inalienable rights not particular political systems. Jon does indeed have some great qualities, but he has failed as a ruler time and time again. He was unable to unite the Night's Watch and walked into Thorne's trap and was killed. He was unable to rally the Stark bannermen to his side before the Battle of the Bastards, and he led his people into Ramsey's trap because of his own emotional impulsiveness. His beheading of Slynt and his hanging of the conspirators was not an attempt to use fear? A certain amount of ruthlessness seems a necessary ingredient to success in the world of Ice and Fire. Of course Dany uses her dragons as power. The question is, to what end does she use them? As Tyrion said, The question is not whether they are terrible people but if they are the right kind of terrible. Birthright is a key ingredient in this world but not the only one. Sam immediately assumes that Jon should rule because he has a better birthright than Dany. Dany is not a foreign ruler. She was born in Westeros and only left because she would have been murdered otherwise. Jon has little real power. Dany has enormous power with her dragons and her armies. Which of the two could best implement benevolent rule? Power is power, after all. Dany originally didn't want to save the North because Jon's story was fantastical. She originally wanted him to bend the knee because she could not break the wheel unless she owned the wheel. Despite her skepticism, she listened to her advisors (another good trait she has) and not only allowed Jon to mine the dragonglass but provided the manpower and resources for him to do it. As she became more convinced of the truth of Jon's assertions, she condoned the plan to bring back a wight as proof. She then risked her life and the lives of her dragons to save Jon and the men with him. Afterward, she offered to help with no demand for him to bend the knee. Jon chose that action; he was not coerced because he saw who Dany really was. Dany certainly had a choice once she knew the NK was real. She could have packed up her armies and her dragons and gone back to Meereen and let Westeros be overrun. Dany is impatient with people who don't seem to recognize that she is far more powerful than they are. They want to make demands that they have no hope of enforcing. The Northerners originally named Robb King in the North because the dragons were gone and there was no overwhelming force opposing them. Well, the dragons are back. Torrhen Stark was smart enough to bend the knee to save his people from Aegon's dragons. As a result the Starks were wardens of the North for 300 years without interference from the Targaryens. Dany was an inexperienced leader when she took over Meereen, but she learned pretty quickly. She did compromise by reopening the fighting pits, allowing former slaves to sign a one-year contract with their former masters, and marrying the leader of a great house. Ending slavery is not easy. Just look at the U.S. Around 800,000 people died in the Civil War, the South was left in ruins, and the KKK terrorized people for a 100 years after. The repercussions are still being felt today. It caused chaos. Should Lincoln have just left slavery in place for generations to come to avoid turmoil? As Davos suggested, perhaps the best of all possible worlds would be a marriage of the two.

Yes, it fits with Dany's vision, she burnt the enemy in the House of the Undying... and Jon has died once, and has Ghost, I just hope he doesn't become the NK, since he is the King. Arya and Gendry would be really poetic, Sansa wanted to be a Queen, not Arya, and Joeffry was a bastard, not even Baratheon, but I think that would be too sweet for GOT.

@@IlicBojana It's also possible that Arya would not be a queen of the Seven Kingdoms, but Queen in the North, thats means Sansa dies

They love flipping love and hate, but they also love taking characters that don't know how to figuratively "bend the knee" to a higher power than their ideals and goals, and then either having the characters learn to change, or break - Dany has been acting rather rigid and inflexible, especially where taking the Iron Throne is concerned, and one can't help thinking that she'll prove to be too brittle to carry the responsibility that comes with it; conversations between characters like Varys, Tyrion, and her other advisors when she isn't there seem to have been underlining the fact that they believe they'll need to step in to intervene by finding a way of controlling her in those moments where she isn't wise enough to compromise and control herself (see, for example, the scenes involving Dany burning the Tarlies alive and the fallout from that, and the scene where she beheaded her own supporters in Essos and the fallout for that....) So, I agree entirely that Denaerys will end up being a divisive force in the alliance over the long haul in a "villainous" way, at least unless something happens to give her character a chance to grow in ways that her earlier experiences haven't yet, and if Denaerys should go "dark side", and for thematic reasons that division is not going to bode well for those she takes with her....