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If you haven't yet I would check out the old anime Legend of the Galactic Heroes as it is the space opera equivalent to GoT except it actually is able to perfectly wrap up its story and is focused very much on the world shaping the events of the characters like you wanted with this.

Wow, all this stuff is a bigger shitshow than the homestuck epilogues

*_yes_*

What's crazy too is that they have the nerve to make a sequel. Why couldn't they just spend more time with season 8 to be able to address all the cool aspects of the story-line? I'm still mad about the white walker's. I wanted John to become the new Night King after he fell in love with Daenerys. I wanted him to destroy everything in King's Landing, I mean he has a reason to want to do that (after losing his humanity which keeps him from doing so). Plus, Daenerys would have to have tragically killed him which would have made sense for the Azor Ahai lore I read not too long ago. This was really a basic show. It's unbelievable that they put so much effort and couldn't make the ending worth-wild. I wasted a few years of my life. It's clearly obvious, whoever made this show was inspired by D & D, Lord of the Rings, and Star Wars and couldn't pull their own weight. Y'all better give the writer all your blessings. He is the only person who can save this story-line, now. Daenerys IS ruthless, but every king is ruthless! Why is this a bad thing? When as a king you're literally playing God with people's lives! That is the duty of a ruler, that is what a ruler is! They tried to pull a "Democratic-system," but this was just stupid! Through all the events I was expecting to happen, to make the ending more realistic (if that was what they were trying to go for), Daenerys would have had to become a little more ruthless or "mad" due to the fact that she is desperate to protect her people after the war with the white walker's (who didn't even seem like much of a threat in the real ending btw). This makes for an excellent story-line to show that history repeats itself and there is always more to the story. After experiencing betrayal and traumatic massacres of people she kind of cared for, THIS WOULD HAVE CHANGED HER. The Daenerys we knew and loved would have had a GOOD, bittersweet ending. Bran should never have been king, he should have became her right hand because he is the link between the past, present and the future. This is the best person to be the role as an adviser, not a king. Bran was depicted as a wise man/boy, never ruthless. He can't lead wars! He is in a freakin' wheel chair. If all you need to be is a tactician to be king, why couldn't Tyrion be king?

Octavio M. V. Oneto Same.

Me too! I've been reading these books since 2002. I'm insanely angry they got so lazy with the writing. Seriously, I feel insane when I'm yelling at my TV.

Sameee. Just refueling my distaste for the shit-show of Season 8. Ughh.

@@millaray9912 Watch the last kingdom. That might help you out a little

These failure analyses are the only good thing that came from the season 8... They are so entertaining

But but, don't you see! It was all foreshadowed! Jaime pushing Bran out the window in S1E1 was a vital clue to predict D&D throwing all of his character growth out the window in S8. /s Sad thing is, I could probably convince someone that is exactly what D&D were aiming for.

@@donot5643 Mate,don't feed the troll

@@bifflarson7289 What a cool guy you are.

@@donot5643 feed the troll

Biff Larson lol ur such a kool kat

it was so bad that it's as if they are either psychopaths that hated their audience and wanted to make them suffer or they were threatened into tanking the show, "tank the show or you lose your lives", haha..GOT's ending is suspiciously awful

I don't know y I watched this video again man. I just depressed myself. fackkkkkk.

hahahahhaha

@@wheelmanstan "suspiciously awful" LMAO you just described it PERFECTLY HAHAHA xD

@@thealldrk5747 oh

I think I was more upset about him than anyone else, his arc was like 90% complete 😂 Him and Bre were two sides of the same coin, a beautiful side plot… The selfish man who pitied himself and scoffed at honor, due to his treatment by others. The selfless women who refused to pity herself and clung to her honor, despite her treatment by others.

Him and theon

Eh, I don't think it was that crazy that everybody makes it out to be. It was tragic, but makes sense. As much as he actually did love Brienne, and could imagine a life with her, deep down Cersie wasn't just the first and only love of his life aside from her, but was his twin sister. He would always love her no matter what, there was no way he could let her die on her own no matter how much she deserved it. He couldn't live with himself that way if he let that happen. He knew tragically that although he had this happy new option and possiblity of this whole new life with Brianne, ultimately he knew his fate had to be dying with his sister. They came in to the world together and they had to go out together. It actually fits wayyyy more with the whole tone of the story. It's not a everybody lives happily ever after fairy tale deal, but the total opposite.

@@The.Nasty. am i missing something or how was he ever selfish? he pushed a little boy out of a window for his love for cersei, he killed a king and lived w disgrace cause he didn't want to kill his father and sacrifice hundreds of innocent lives, and he risked his life in multiple occasions for bri

@@esqui777 you’re missing something… Doing things for the people you care about doesn’t mean you can’t be a selfish person. He put his ego and his relationship with Cersei above everything else, even Bri. I like Jamie a lot, but he is a bit of a shitter. One of the many simple terms to describe that kind of behavior is called being selfish.

Well, yeah, the wall is made of ice; the rock is made of the motherfucking earth, so its stronger.

@@somejew9163 magic infused ice

@@ErickGTRZ Some weak ass magic, if a rock can block dragon fire.

@@somejew9163 Pretty sure the "rock" was just a piece of Winterfell's wall, which the dragon completely destroyed only minutes earlier. Unfortunately there is just no plausible explanation other than the producers being morons.

@@TheRPGentleman I'm 10 and even I can tell Some Jew isn't being serious.

That's the worst part. I can't re-watch GoT. What's the point.

Truly a phenomenon.

@@sorryifoldcomment8596 same, even though the seasons previous to the last one are godly, I don't feel like re-watching at all :/ damn season 8 ruined everything.

Bro, Game of Thrones disappeared completely. People were stuck at home, doing nothing, and NO ONE watched this show again (or started watching it). That's how bad it was.

Sad but true :(

Actually this isn’t unusual, even for shows that ended well. Eventually hype bursts and people move on, it’s just natural. The shows that still get talked about are considered classics that stand alone. And if fans don’t want GOT to be forgotten, then maybe try concentrating on what you liked about it, not constantly bashing what you didn’t.

It's not really only the last season. Season 7 was also dumb as hell (actually the whole thing started collapsing slowly back in Season 5), but people still had hope, because hope dies last. But when it became clear that this is the end, that last bridge was burned.

It’s not one season, ever since season 6 the show went downhill

@@TheaterPup the last seasons deserve to be bashed though. It's an honest reflection of the writers fucking up something amazing. Unfortunate but that is the legacy of the show now. Trying to have selective memory about it doesn't make it true. I doubt it will be forgotten but it won't be remembered as something that was executed well, but for the biggest missed potential in recent tv history. happy days is considered a classic too but people also always remember jumping the shark to the point that it is a common enough idiom used by people who don't even know the origin of the phrase.

@@rs180216 It’s an honest reflection of the Internet leaning negative by default. Agree to disagree.

Haha yeap, i have Easter.binge watched GOT analysis like this. Hating on DB never grows old.

yeah that’s most likely what he did. did you watch the series that TDD did on Benioff?

show died when writers fooled the audience to believe that jon isnt a bastard like bro raegal was married to elia martell with 2 children .he fooled lyanna with a secret marriage cuz it wasnt real

Actually I'm thinking the same thing that last two seasons sucked so bad it's a taste that want go away.

HBO`s view was why should we put any more money into the ending when we can save money and cut the ep`s needed that was needed to show why people did what they did out of no where. I hate when they do this as at this point they do not care about the show as there is nothing more to be made. But they did leave it open for season 9 as the dragon brings her back to life based on where he flys.

@@Thrakus the worst part is that HBO said D&D can have more seasons and more money if they want but D&D said they don't need it

@@Thrakus That was nothing to do with HBO though, HBO did not try to save money with a shorter season. It was entirely down to the showrunners.

@@morbus5378 exactly.

@@devilstec666 wat

No, the shit started in season 5 and was already at peak in season 7. Season 7 is almost as bad as 8 but all the brainless fanbois did not see a damn about it because "Uh there is a cool dragon burning lannisters uhuh". Some people weren't even surprised with season 8 being terrible. I wasn't.

Iam so glad they got canned From Star wars So glad

@@NB-or8rs i didnt Notice That many mistakes coz we are all just Used to The epic Good wins over evil shit so Then i started rewatching then i Started noticing All of the mistakes I did notice It while watching it first time But i didnt mind that

@@howyadoinmate1868 yeah well people who noticed them in their first watch just suffered alone in a corner

@@NB-or8rs hmm i was really obssesed with this show Like this was the only Show that Got me obssesed with something like This show Made me have goosebumps like real goosebumls for first that i know of Now the villains are D&D like how are they even know as a Professional Writers What qualification do they have idk Much about them btw But still Bro how can 2 proffesional Writer fuck up this much

Yeah, him and Jamie’s endings really stung.

i mean jon was never a smart person but he was still a rational one .

@@herloss448 he wasn't tywin levels of smart but he was able to hold his own pre-season 6

Yeah Jon in the early seasons was portrayed as a principled man but he was never a dimwit. In fact he was smart and competent in a lot of situations. In Season 8 he went full autistic. His dialogue made me want to puke.

@@locke8412At least he knows how to do it

They expected us to believe that crucifying a bunch of slave masters was decent enough foreshadowing. Pretty sure The Punisher would brutally torture slave masters, but he would never in a millions years murder an entire city of innocent people or even one single innocent person. Being insanely cruel to cruel people doesn't automatically make us think "oh they will do this to innocents eventually."

@@crupt1023 she spent so much time literally saying “I don’t want to be queen of the ashes” and “I want to break the wheel” and “I will leave this world better than I found it” etc. D&D really thought they could just erase all of that character motivation and give us some flimsy reasoning like “bUt ReMeMbEr sHe KiLlEd ALL ThE SlAvErs GUUUYYSS!!” and that we would just accept that.

She was literally a protagonist until that 5th episode. I remember the start of it with her looking like an absolute fiend actually made me laugh, like "Well she's clearly now crazy Targarean"

yeah just like eren from aot becoming villain felt earned and it didn't just happen in one minute

@@anilkumarsinha5562 Darn you for the spoilers lol.

For real. I've gotten a lot of enjoyment out of different youtubers breaking down the awfulness of this season.

Exacly! I had 10x more fun watching those than the actual season.

Yes i agree i love watching KZfaqrs destroy and point out how bad Season 8 is

I agree

The honest truth 👏🏾

Sketchorama yeah then kills everyone for no reason that makes sense

Hilarious!!!

While D&D kinda forgot about the bells of shame, they certainly hadn't forgotten about *them*

Sketchorama thank u. They totally swapped Dany and Cersei’s characters.

@@sydnitheromantictaylor112 have you seen zurik 23m, daenerys targaryen - the last dragon

plus, the prophecy? 'the golden hand will squeeze the life out of you.' they put the prophecy in s4 or 5 AND IT NEVER PAID OFF

preach

It's not much to talk about when everyone knows it's good.

Season 7 and 8.sucked ass. Completely in my opinion seasons 1-5 were the best of.game.of thrones

@@joeltaveras1926 Agreed I loved 1 thru 5 besides the Dorne arc they was tripping with sand snakes. 7 &8 didn't have much character development and plot holes to say the least.

Pretty accurate summary

Only he wasn't fully grown. Balerion was considerably bigger than largest of Denerys dragon and that is Drogon. What bothers me is that flame breath became laser dragon breath of doom that literally cuts stone.

@Jake Hoff why would you ever want to eliminate bed & breakfast?

@@Nood4159 Pretty sure they considered them fully grown, but oh well

@Jake Hoff in the show they were confirmed by multiple ppl they were fully grown. and this is the show we are talking about not books.

Dark O-man balerion lived to age 200 and vhagar lived to 180. drogon, viserion, and rhaegal were only like 8! dragons never stop growing, therefore danys dragons are still practically baby’s

But what's worse is that the Night King and Euron somehow eyeballed a kill shot to the heart miles up in the sky, but somehow none of them could hit Drogon, the one carrying all of the important people, right in front of them. Like he hit three or four kill shots on Rhaegal high in the sky but none of his fleet could hit Drogon right in front of them? And the Night King could've killed Jon, Dany and literally everyone if he hit Drogon instead but chose Viserion? That was the shit that pissed me off

Ironically around the time he stopped drinking so much...

Well I hear a lot about how he thought cersei would come help but did you see him acting the scene?? Even Tirion doesn't believe she will show up but he is hoping she will and ignoring his logic because of how hopeless the situation is. Have you ever went all in on a hope you know is unlikely to happen?? Perhaps he was also trying to keep morale up. But watch it again and you can see in his eyes and the way he speaks that he doesn't really believe it. The writing is shit. I'm certainly not going to argue against that but tirion was being an optimist a lot towards the end

@@D_skeptic *MASSIVE HANGOVER*

did it? his advice wasnt so rewarded by the outcome, but it seems there is another spin to that: why cersei does not kill tyrion whenever she has the chance? easy. she loves him and hates him. like a sister loves and hates her brother. also she knows him facing her is a sign of trust and brotherly love. they know each other and their tricks better than anybody else. they might be on opposing sites, but they have a bond nevertheless, always. Plus: tyrion, in his role as "Hand of the queen" and advisor in reality helps cersei all the way. his advises to dany are often the first and logical suggestion but are always well crafted considering the countermoves of cersei and giving his sister the opportunity to outmaneuver dany without tyrion losing his face. its like a cat and mouse game between him, cersei and dany, and in the end you can see he is crushed seeing his brother and sister dead in the ruins after dany breaking the rules and just burning down the city. he tried to save them without switching sides again, and he did a mighty fine job until the very end, he wasted troops and ships at the lannister castle, he wasted troops and ships on sea at kings landing, he always considered how to split forces and give cersei a window to crush a good chunk of danys forces instead of throwing them all at once at kings landing and winning by numbers. tyrion was a genius.

Dana I’m

The Night King, Daenerys and her Dragons have made her magic far more powerful than before.

She can only do what the Lord of light lets her do

Dylan Ackland if the Lord of Light even exist. There’s no concrete proof he does. In the books other characters who are not Priest of Rholhor pull similar magic as her

@Infinity Stones No way, she was about a 100 years old when she let herself finally perish. I doubt she was still "discovering herself" by now.

@Infinity Stones I was just making the point that by the time she perished,she had learned all she could. She wasn't going to discover anything else that she didn't know before. The writers simply made her inconsistent in that some things worked, some things didn't. I guess depending on how they wanted the story to go, really.

Just stop after rewatching season 4 or 5. That's what I do.

beautifully put

Not a peep about it during covid binging of shows and movies.

And yet here you are talking about a topic that no-one talks about...

Talking or texting?

@@bendraynor4817 😁

@@bendraynor4817 Because of the first 6 seasons.

@@stevem2323 4* or maybe 5

The walking dead comic is still great the show is a poor adaptation since 3 onwards become too much of a soap opera than a zombie survival.

I was a mass effect fan. Then 3 happened. That hurt.

I quit that show around halfway through season 4 after they found they 3rd or 4th safe haven that turned out to be a surprise murder camp.

I left after season 5 I think, or between. Carl and that girl ran away or something and I was like really... rip his eye

So true. That was one of my absolute favorite shows; another great series about surviving adversity... pissed away in a depressingly similar manner to GoT.

I mean, I have never spent time with Albert Einstein and I'd say he was pretty clever. Point is, people talk and Sansa was bound to hear it since they were living in the same place. Given that she kinda learned a lot from Cersei and the Lannister ruling including distinction between propaganda and the truth, since she's literally witnessing it, yeah, Sansa saying that is not far fetched.

And in earlier seasons the Dothraki were shown as riding archers they never once use their archery skills that would’ve helped them in the battle

Nah honestly cavalry wouldn't do well in a battle against an enemy who doesn't have morale no matter how you use them. What are you going to do on a horse that you can't do on foot? Only thing is move faster, charge, and run down enemies in a route, but that's irrelevant because they're defending a castle. Even if they did a flank, what's that going to do against a much bigger block of infantry that won't break under any circumstance other than the death of their king? The charge was just dumb, there's no two ways about it. Especially since they didn't use the dragons at all, just sat by and watched while they have air power, easily the most OP weapon on the battlefield

@@jdstark24 I never said it was smart, just that the effect of the charge was unrealistic.

@@jdstark24 what does morale have to do with cavalry? If there was no advantage to it, why do u think they exist? (Tormund even comments that he learned his lesson when Stannis’ cavalry cut thru his formations like a hot knife thru butter)

@@SKILLIUSCAESAR a huge part of the reason cavalry is such an influence on the battlefield is its ability to break enemy morale and cause routes, and to influence the flow of combat. There's no advantage to having cavalry in a defensive battle against an enemy that has no morale. Historically, a majority of soldiers were killed in the rout after they broke formation and ran away, not during the actual battle. Cavalry not only causes fear in the enemy but when they do break you can now run them all down with ease. The idea that cavalry is good for charges is pretty overstated. It's extremely situational and the Battle Of Winterfell is not one of those situations

@@ec_money 1000 more than I have

oh my god i feel so bad for laughing

Last name: Walking First name: Never

Tyrion: brain the broken

sniff sniff *What on god’s green earth just fucking raped my eyes*

SavageRicktator Meanwhile Bran the broken is ditched by all 3 of them like “Am I a joke to you guys?”

Also Arya: We are family, we have to stick together Is seen leaving with the hound the next scene.

Lol, Season 7: "The lone wolf dies, but the pack survives". Season 8: Well, bye Jon. Bye, Arya, Bye Bran, and Bye Sansa. Also, never mind that Bran can just tell Arya about what she is looking for West of Westeros.

@@dash4800 So kinda like family in real life lol

@@dash4800 Mb

Lmfao

Bran Bran, Broken Man, nurses help him use the can.

🤣🤣🤣

Bran the Flake. Bran the Bland.

Bran the builder of access ramp’s.

I thought it was perfect for Jaime, not the writing but the fact he'd leave Brianne to try and save Cersei. Cersei is his first love..true love. Jaime wasn't riding back to fight against Dany..he was riding back to Save the love of his life from a horrible Death. That's in his character arc. I think he was mean to Brianne so it would be easier for her to let go. He always loved Cersei, letting her burn would not in his character

@@TheChurchofCacti It was prophecized that he would kill Cersei, it would've been a great character moment and ending for his arc if he finally got the courage to do what's good for the people and kill Cersei who he loved. That would've made sense. But he went to king's landing just to die from about 8 bricks, when he could've stepped 1 foot the side and been absolutely fine. How the fuck is that perfect? Also it's been shown several times in the show that Jaime killed the mad king and disobeyed orders to save everyone in king's landing, however in season 8 he says "i never really cared for the innocent". Perfect my fucking ass.

​@@Chair991 It was in the Books not the show. Go watch the Maggy the Frog scene again, she never mentions anything about a brother. You can't take stuff from the Books and make it fit the show if it was never in the story to begin with.

@@Chair991 Also Jaime rode North to fight the Dead, not to join the Stark's\Targaryen's. He still loved Cersei but honor compelled him to ride North. He has a very complicated character but riding back to save Cersei is definitely within his role. Again he wasn't riding back to fight against Dany, he was riding back to save Cersei. Even Tyrion wanted to save her...they're family after all. Cersei is Jaime's Twin and lover!

@@TheChurchofCacti I applaud your attempt to inject logic into the argument. Unfortunately it's like trying to talk to a flat earther. They don't like what they see so they need to make things up to make themselves feel better. Every argument against season eight of Game of Thrones boils down to one fact: "I didn't like how it ended therefore it was badly written." Still waiting for anyone to go deeper than that. Haven't seen it yet. Doubt I ever will. Peace

Same 😒💯

Yeah I have no idea why they didn't stick closer to the books and had like 12 seasons. George might have caught up better with the pressure off. As it seems he gave up as the show passed him

I was honestly expecting Ashton Kusher to show up at the end of the episode 6

@What ? those two morons wrote the final seasons like this, had no interest in continuing the GoT show but wouldn't give up the show to other writers, so they came up with this joke of a last season that's why

Drogon is probably a million times smarter than the human morons, so sure. Have him explain the mess that was the last season.

Drogon Holmes 😂😂😂

Or the Dragon said as it it died - "its because I didnt eat enough mitaclorians."

who isn't though xd

@@teeemtee5739 LiTeRalLY

@@teeemtee5739 no, I'm afraid that I'm only figuratively retarded.

didn't even realize I was watching a hour long video

@@teeemtee5739 I don't watch game of thrones.

He never planned for that

Yeah. As others have said elsewhere, my impression was that Tyrion, who became very bitter in the books for obvious reasons, and others around Dany would also start to move her towards a more destructive path. It seems the last books - if they ever get written and published - will be much darker in general than the second half of the show was.

thats exactly what im saying theyre not as good as we thought they were they just had the books

They ran out of books, yeah.

I didn't mind season 6, 7 was ok hated season 8 it definitely went downhill after the end of the book tho

Exactly 10000% this, its what I've been saying since season 7

@@aLmAnZio They didn't run out of material, they just chose not to follow the material they layed out in the books. The best example is the character of Stannis Baratheon, who is going to win in the books against Houses Bolton and Frey when in the show, he died after killing his daughter, something that wouldn't happen in the books. What they did to his character was so fucking annoying, and they only did it so they can show off their fanfiction for characters like Jon and Dany and also make things simpler and more basic with it's later good guy vs bad guy plot lines.

Me neither. I’m still offended by the sad excuse of an ending.

Who is?

DAMN STRAIGHT!!!

Who tf isn't

I watch such videos every once in a while...gives some sort of personal satisfaction to see the writers being roasted for their unforgivable delivery

LOST was one of them. That show got sloppy way before the ending though… like the writers got to a point where they were like “fuck, how do we make all this crazy shit make sense?”

@@The.Nasty. lol didn't watch lost when it started, and was very underwhelmed by the critics when I wanted to watch it. So I didn't ! But if we talk non sense then : Pretty little liars was pretty bad. The 100 just went off the rail. Supernatural was a reboot of itself every season, and a parody at a certain point. So yeah ... Pretty much every cool franchise/idea turns out bad at a certain point. Except braking bad. Braking bad was good xD

@@chowla2058 I agree, breaking bad might be the only show that steadily gets better all the way to the very end! 😂

Did anybody notice how valyrian steel is all the sudden used to kill the zombies in season 7? Previously that was reserved for the walkers.

@@yggdrasil3 True. In previous seasons people were killing wights just by giving them a good whack on the head with a heavy object.

@@CFijWPG Wights, thanks, I forgot their name.

Bro that's what I'm saying. It makes NO sense. If it's not the Dragonfire that gives Valryian steel and Dragonglass their anti-White Walker properties... THEN WHAT THE HELL IS IT???

Sinful AMVs you just need to believe

It’s weird. Arya went west, Jon went north, Drogon went east, and the show went south.

Francis Karanja yep . Why Starks don’t want stay together after 8 years separated ? That’s strange 🧐

Atheist Girl I know right. They all leave each other, half of them die, they remaining come back again, and than they leave again

Jack Yes . I also tought Wolf Pack stays together . Bran on in the iron throne doesn’t make any sense to me. If I really want to know if there is a country in the west of Westeros , I will ask my three eyed raven brother .

Not to mention he says "I'm not bran. I'm not anything. I'm the three eyed raven" or some shit of that

@@NekoMiku1234 Yes, becoming an immortal monk should disqualify you from succession, nevermind how these (medieval-esque) feudal lords would respond to their new king being physically incapable. Maybe if he was the son of a loved king, they'd accept that in a normal stable medieval society, but in Game of Thrones after everyone who actually had a claim to the throne died? It would be a free for all.

Joshua Anderson bran is the son of Ned Stark but he’s still not the true heir if anything they all should be supporting John. At least he deserves it he’s fought hard for what was right. IMO he is the only one that deserves it. Real talk. What were the writers thinking when they made one of the blandest characters that actually has one of the least amounts of screen time in the whole fucking show. He’s not a favorite at all people like some the side characters better ffs. Honestly one of the worst endings to a show in a while.

@@bigdaddy7956 Just to add on to that. Without the tree, Bran will age and die like any normal man despite his powers of vision. When he dies, they'll be no heir so who will rule the 6 Kingdoms then? If not Jon, then the best person to actually rule would be Tyrion. He had an actual sympathy for the people. Plus, though never consummated, Tyrion was legally married to Sansa. Imagine him showing up, just as a joke, and reminding her of this little irony.

Not to mention how shady bran’s motivation is throughout season 8 if you really think about it.

wauw, so you're basicly saying: the books were great, awesome writing, why isn't everyone who did not make writing that particular story their lifes-work while tied to irl limitations like budget, time and the fact they are not allowed to make significant character plots about characters from a story, to which they don't have the rights to make these changes, an equally good writer as George?

@@keesvanhameren9025 It's wierd u don't know that but by the time the books ended, the show was a global phenomenon and "budget limitations" and other petty reasons weren't an issue anymore like in the first couple seasons. Not only you don't know that but you seem to be defending the shitty ending of the show ? Ur wierd

i stopped watching after Season Six. from from what i saw of Season 7 and 8.. I wanted to tear the rest of my hair out and Burn Dumber and Dumber with Wildfire. They threw away Jamie's redemption arc, turn Jon Snow into a slobbering moron, and dropped Tyrion's IQ off a cliff

well said. shitty writers ruined the show. I can never imagine worst writers than those 2 idiots

Season 6 was mostly off the books, and is largely a decent season, 7 and 8 were just rushed steaming piles of shit, I think they had the ability write much better but they just wanted to end the show so they could get on with Star wars, and that's just worse really.

He would if Gendry actually cared about the throne.

@@BradLad56a show inspired by war of the roses would appreciate that it doesn’t matter what the individual wants… their existence provides opportunity for opponents to rally around and act through them. That’s far too nuanced for this stage of the show tho lol

Yeah... I felt the same way. Sigh...

Agreed with everything apart from the ice breath thing which is just in your head

Haha! So true.

Good one

Rotfl...

That actually makes sense. Cause in the books the weirwood tree that blood raven lives in has a bottomless cave inside .

You a beach

Well I did that, and NONE, no even a single soul at that bar liked it...

i bet d&d were shocked that the white reddit fanboys actually ended up *caring* about plot and character development

You're hot. Wanna rewatch season 8 together ?

@Max1982 You're really attractive, wanna watch season 8 togheter?

that's exactly what it is .

That’s genius

😂😂

I think that was the point, Bronn will never loose a single coin lol

He also agreed to assassinate Jamie and at the time Hand of the queen, Tyrion with no consequence! I guess D&D forgot!!

Jay Bird there was a consequence! He got the Tyrell ancestral home, lands and title. Which is DUMB. The castle, fine, whatever, but why the hell would he be be the overlord/warden of the east?! That is given to the house most able and loyal to the crown, to manage and deal with funds between other lords in their district. Bronn knows nothing of household accounts, crop growth and what to plant when. Highgarden in a farming kingdom! Why wouldn't he give it to Tarly?! Who WERE banner men of the Tyrells? They were a very old, noble family, and the man left to lead it is a close friend, loyal beyond doubt, learned, good natured, and a maester in training. No... The sell sword is obviously better equipped to lead?!

CJ Jankovics The Tarly family is extinct ………

yuan John no they aren't. Even IF his little brother, who in the books is significantly younger than Sam and likely wouldn't be old enough to go to war and die with his father, the Lady Tarly, and Sam's sister would still hold the house name and honours. Females can become the heads of houses, lady Whent of Harrenhall for instance. That said, Sam is still alive, and he has a 'son' who would be Lord Tarly.

The last season feels like a dissertation rushed the night before it’s due. Short, sloppy and shit.

@@Kopite4life12 Accurate considering they rushed it out to try to jump on the Star Wars franchise lol

@@paperbrained Yet they still gave themselves a whole two years... I'm sure HBO paid for many spa breaks and champagne with caviar in that time while D&D were 'creating"...

You can tell the cast wasn't pleased with the script with their acting honestly

Explains also why the season was rushed at some points too

Thats why Daenerys is the Mad Queen. She's a bad person

Dany didnt forget it. She realised that the people of Kings Landing will never accept her. She realised that Jon is the true king and the people will follow him and not her. Thats why she did it. Dany never wanted to "save" the city. After Missandeis beheading, all she wanted was revenge. It makes sense for me.

@@obama135 Finally someone who agrees! Her actions werent surprising at all. We knew it was coming after she knew that people wont accept her and after losing so many people

@@obama135 Revenge on Cersei. Not the common people who had nothing to do with her friend's death. She should know that killing them after the city already surrendered not only wouldn't hurt Cersei, but would actually make her own position of power open to reprisal. Also, Jon's heritage isn't even common knowledge to the people of the city. That excuse doesn't fly. It was a dum dum move.

@@obama135 "she realised that people would never accept her" even though they did the exact opposite EVERY SINGLE TIME she liberated a city in Essos, even though so many people from Westeros came to her aid. And as for Jon being the rightful king, Jorah (i think) said to her in season ONE that people don't care who the king is as long as he doesn't bother them or something similar. "after Missandrei's beheading, all she wanted was revenge" Yeah, Dany would't kill hundred of thousands of people for Missandrei. She clearly wasn't motivated by that in particular.

Hordor held quite a few

I loved it when they smothered a burning ditch with their flammable bodies.

Because he is GREAT!!

The inner hollywood spirit broke through in the last season. Plot armor was added again and things happen just because they're cool.

no no the tied that one up!! hahaha

I'm sure they named their kid "Danaerys" and not "Khaleesi".

@@sidnew2739 You may not remember but there was actually a small boom in little girls being named Khaleesi during the earlier seasons. I still remember it, because I found it odd that they chose the title instead of the actual name of the person (but still respect other people's choices of course). You can still find articles about it if you google it. For example, the Cut released an article on it just after the last episode in 2019, called "How It Feels to Have Named Your Kid 'Khaleesi,' After Last Night's GoT Episode". It states that by that time, 723 people had a child named after her, 560 of whom were named Khaleesi and 163 Daenerys. Their source for this is the Social Security Administration. Another website, called Nameberry, states Khaleesi entered the US Top 1000 names in 2014, but I'm not sure where they got the data from. Anyway, this is what I found at first glance. Hope this helps!

I can't believe I still think about how shit this season turned out. Ending a good story is hard but they turned the characters into dolts.

IKR

It's what HBO shows do. Think about it. Oz ended with an anthrax scare that evacuated the prison. That was it. All those seasons of storytelling to end it with a white powdery substance found in an envelope. The Sopranos wasn't any better either. That whole last season was great and then they have the diner scene where there are all these people that could cause the show to end in pretty much any possible way. Then, Tony looks up and.... that's it. Deadwood actually had a great ending. They just left us hanging for 14 years before we got it. Anyone who has watched HBO originals before could have seen this coming. It really didn't surprise me that they dropped the ball at the end

you're fucking dum if you think the show was ever good absolute shit from the first episode

@@saviorself1164 I would never complain about The Sopranos. The show was a complete masterpiece

Bus she is his queen foreva.

Muh kween

Well when you have a partner, you do have a nickname for them.

If I remember correctly, her abusive brother called her that. That's why it's bad.

Hey, "Dany" was only being an American woman because that's what American women do. Can't fault her for flexing a little "pu$$y joosh."

Free hookers and a voice from the gods, damn right he can.

Right? I mean the guy canonically has a magic wiener, is it that hard to believe he has a good singing voice too?

Not really

The left does this kind of shit literally all the time.

To be fair, hbo could've gotten away with nominating A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, which was written by Bryan Cogman. Instead, they go for The Iron Throne, written and directed by D&D. I don't know WHY hbo continues to back them so hard. It's like they want to be a laughing stock.

They don't want to admit themselves that it was bad.

@@outlander3000 Exactly! They choose the episode with nearly 58 minutes without dialogue only showing off the actors emotions. Watch the videos of The Dragon Demands. They are pretty damn long while pretty damn enlightening.

S8 was awesome at EVERY SINGLE ASPECT. Music, Acting, Cinematography.. Except Writing. WTF

But he made you pissed tho

If you were thinking about the actor and not the character, it kinda reveals how shitty the show has became. All immersion was gone. And yeah, Dinklage was still amazing despite this.

I was fucking pissed when I cried for Daenerys (whom I began to despise in S7) but not for Jaime...

In the rubble ? There was like one brick and a half on top of them. Don't even know how they died.

@@mcyrenne14 All I could think when Tyrion was unearthing Jaime and Cersei and holding the brick... was "SMASH THE BEETLES! SMASH 'EM! KUHNK, KUHNK, KUHNK!"

The False Edge they could have made that Dany scene morally grey instead of slaughtering the entire town after already winning

@@TheSpartan88888 The fact that the show makes Dany a mass murdering psychopath proves absolutely nothing. The show has completely misrepresented every single character in the series - why should we assume it's representing Dany in a fair way now when it never has before? Just because some plot points are going to be similar doesn't mean the characterization will be. Every single character in the show has been twisted into some funhouse version of themselves so D&D can validate their own moral judgements about the book characters. Take Tyrion for example: In the books, Tyrion pledges to kill Jaime, Cersei, and Tywin. He murders Shae - it's not self defense. He goes to Essos and rapes a few slaves, hoping that he can make them hate him as much as he hates himself. He convinces fAegon to sail his Golden Company army to Westeros because he wants to see the world burn down. Then he goes to Dany, intent on doing the same thing, and he asks that in return for his service he should be allowed to rape and kill his sister. In the show, he's a funny dwarf. He goes to Dany because gee-whiz he just wants to make the world a better place - isn't that great? He drinks and he knows things! LOL!! I'm sure they got some plot points correct, but the characterization is comically off-mark. Dany's not going to be a villain in the books any more than Tyrion is going to be a hero. George writes grey characters, but D&D have simplified everyone down to cardboard "good guys" and "bad guys" based on which ones they like and dislike. They literally turned what was grey in her show character into a one-dimensional villain who is unredeemable without even exploring how ''mad'' she was.

The False Edge king knight from shovel knight?

Knight

Hey there don't blame HBO. They were prepared to give D&D all the time and money in ghe world to make the absolute best show that they could, they just didn't want to. The writers are the only ones at fault here

I much prefer the original version of the script, in which Jorah actually survives and becomes a more major character in the end game - eventually turning on Dany and in doing so completing his arch - ending up in his father's place as commander of the night's watch.

Jeor: Daddy's so proud. Now back to the wall with you.

Such a mangina...

@@fuzzydunlop7928 That ending would have been stupid because Jorah would have never turned on Dany. Hell when they were in Meereen, Jorah was trying to prepare Dany to do what she did in the last season while Dany was the one telling him she would not harm innocents. So no. That wouldn't have been a good development, it would have gone against canon like everything else in the last season did, and would have just show the audience more of how much those two idiots didn't care about the show and the characters in the first place.

The moment i saw mighty khal Drogo perished that way because of her , i understand she is an ill-omened .

How does Jon not end up being the King of Westeros? The whole Tower of Joy angle just got totally obliterated!

He actually always wished to be Jon Stark, but the show kinda went bleh with him.

They did Stannis dirty.

Everyone on the show is dirty. Except like Brienne

@@JH-dr4xo They did Brienne dirty.

YoshPrimePainting I can’t understand this too, such a stupid thing

I feel the same way. But one of GRRM's conditions was that he got to pick the showrunners, and shockingly, D&D were the ones that passed the test and were the ones he wanted. Because in an interview they figured out Jon's parentage. I know. So even though they supposedly had a falling out with each other, I doubt George would consent to it, which is not the first mistake he made with this series. And honestly, I don't think it ever crossed HBO's minds either, I think a lot of people involved were just way overconfident and thought because this was game of thrones fans would just like it and accept it. Spoiler alert: no. But I think its worth noting too, D&D didn't get out of this Scott free. By the looks of it, Warner Brothers is trying to really distance themselves and the deal they made with Disney for Star Wars is being drastically altered so haha.

@superanimegamer01 Drastically altered, indeed...

its like how marvel got russo brothers

@Kyler Markle I'd rather start from the beginning of Season 5, picking up right where S4 left off, keeping in line with the books instead of cutting major characters. Patchface, Lady Stoneheart, etc.

I would be disapointed too,if I was him. The guy propably read up on Euron and thought:''Damn,that's a pretty cool and complex villainous character.It's gonna be so fun playing him on screen.'' And then the ended up telling ''finger in the bum''-jokes and looking like an idiot.

I actually thought he did a pretty good job considering what he got to work with. Shame that they decided to go down the maniacal route, rather than the total religious psychopath of the books.

fucking book euron was reduced to some discount hot topic "finger in the bum lolo" pirate.

As he should be... Euron was a monster in the books. In the show, he was more of an annoyance.

@@Blaklyon0 The show ended too soon. No idea what was up with the knight king because yea he just died, The battle plans where just dumb. I don't know it just felt off. The numbers in the army's never made any sense, They jumped from one scene to the next in no time, They had John say he has never rode a dragon before umm how did he get south of the wall? I could go on but its just a meh I no longer care. They talked about spin offs but the writing in the last season killed it.

Being a killer isn't really much of an indictment, considering how many people the Starks have killed.

@Ivy Sycamore he was the real hero

Says the one who ruthlessly slaughtered the whole house. Arya should look at the mirror to see the the one.

Lone Star without dessert**

Now for Arya to waste ten minutes staring at a horse that could have been spent on actual plot, only to have it disappear the next episode, leaving it as nothing important(like most of the artsy shots of season 8).

It is about them revealing they never had minds.

There were other worse characters that got a better ending. But making daeneyrs look like the only bad person is like wtf???!! There is other foolish characters what about them ????

My favorite part and the sweetest irony is that they rushed this project to do the star wars, but they ruined GoT and then didnt even get star wars ahhaahhahahahha

"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal, not to people or things." -Albert Einste

@@M.L.official this prob ruined them lol

wow i hope so.

Hehe, if true, the "lol, fuck you" brothers just got fucked as the last act, and it tickles me pink.

Drew Warner yes its true

@@barator03 *Whoops!* Excellent.

l000l thats rich man, total karma.

That even was based on history btw. "The fate Drogo submits Viserys Targaryen to in the first season (he gives him a ‘golden crown’ by pouring molten gold over his head) is incredibly similar to Khan’s treatment of Inalchuq, who met his death by molten silver being poured into his ears and eyes. " Khan as in Genghis Khan of Mongolia

@@tauriqabdullah6130 while being all poetic and such, this must be one of the most gruesome deaths there is. Assuming it was (close to) pure silver, its melting point is ca. 960 C°. The tissue between brain and ears/brain and eyes will have slowed the silver down a little bit, plus they don't connect directly to the essential areas of the brain. So, assuming the victim did not immediately fall into a shock he must have felt the molten silver liquifying his brain for at least some seconds. Truly horrifying

@Bgsleo Why would the Dothraki take inspiration for death by molten gold from the Romans and not the Mongols?

@@wildfire9280 Ikr. Why is it 'more likely'?

@@dennisbett747 hope you guys realise there was no romans and mongols in the world of GOT

I’m not even a fan of the show and I think this would have been AWESOME!

The irony (?) would have been delicious. Shame.

Yes

@@potmeetkettle took the words out of my mouth

Yesss!! Just finished this about 2 weeks ago and this would've been perfectly awful for her 😭 then have the "ice king" kill her and then he sits on the throne and his horns grow into a 👑 crown, would've been dope.

I feel like I can stand confronting the hurt a little better now though, that's why I'm also watching this lol

please, you are just a soft little, want everything your way type of person. You deserve to be disappointed.

@@FollowPrincess It's not them being a "want everything your way" person. It's them being disappointed at the fact that one of their favorite shows fucked up its ending so bad. It's not just them that's disappointed jackass, it's a lot of people. So maybe get off your high horse and gtfo.

a year later, it still hurts.

@@dantethewanderer4989 I watched all the seasons of the show as well, I am not dissapointed. I did not expect them to do anything wild that last season, regarding the issues concerning time. Why should I be on my "high horse", when we are all in the same boat? lol, I just don't complain because the ending was not how I wished it was. Obviously more fans then not wished they got the perfect ending, and don't see that they make it out to be worse then it is. Fans will always find a way to make their beliefs feel justified, hence the "got s8 ruined" videos. Trust me, its not perfect, but it doesn't necessarily need to. I think season 8 is definitely way better then you make it, but not necessarily "good", per say. Far from bad tho, regardless. Stop complaining, I have made alot of people second guess themselves, people dont even know why they hate it even. Stay quiet please, stop bitching.

this has no right to be this funny

@dexy pexy haha thanks ♡

Hmmmm you look like a Targaryen yourself

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Lol 😆😆

Probably just casual watchers who thought Arya having plot armor was "badass".

You're not the only one

If Snyder gets a second try why not this? 🙏🙏🙏 the actors, scene dressing etc were all perfect it was just the frickin script!!!

And need a better writers. Please, better writers!

@@zarabee2880 I still like to think they have real game of thrones season 8 hidden somewhere and they will release it after some time....... hope is a dangerous thing

We need,we deserve a R.R Martin cut.or something with good writers

D&D script says that Drogon burning the throne was just co-incidence and that dragons have no intelligence. In that way D&D are like dragons, they managed to get couple of seasons of good material without brains, as a co-incidence, until they burned down the whole franchise.

Thank you for saying im smart.

It's like your boss' rottweiler outsmarting you. truly D&D are the master writer of our time.

@@juzujuzu4555 and even the few good seasons they had didn't really come from "them" as seasons 1-6 had the actual source material(the books) behind them. Its when they ran out of source material that everything turned became a mess