the one sin that makes the most sense - why the the hell did josh focus so much on torturing Sam and Chris soooo much, when they were the LEAST to blame? Chris was completely uninvolved and Sam LITERALLY TRIED TO STOP IT. Mike was the most at fault, followed by Jess since they both orchestrated it, and Josh literally sent them AWAY FROM ALL THE SHIT HE SET UP. The only things he did to Matt and Emily was lock a door and inadvertently send them up into a fire tower. It's so confusing

this game is one of the few "your choices will matter" games that seem to do their best to make it happen. you can kill every main character, you can miss large portions of the map, etc. It's probably as good as you can do without rewriting an entire game fourty times.

i dont think you can call the cliches in this game "sins" since the game is literally based on horror movie cliches. thats the point of the game.

"No guns in the Lodge" Yeah, no shit. Josh made sure there were none because that would get him killed. Wat.

Jess telling Emily that she has all the natural advantages is actually proving Emily's point of Jess having to sleep her way into a job

"Your girlfriend is calling for help, saunter faster!" Hahaha! Love that.

You should have sinned one of the most stupid moments in the game, which is when Sam and co. leave Ashley behind because they can't wait 5 seconds for her to close the sewer hole, leading to her potential death. Also, Matt leaving his axe at the bottom of the radio tower when they think they're being chased by a psycho killer.

I like how the Wendigo have really jerky, sudden movements. That kind of moving terrifies me, and is really good for making me hate the bloody things, in whatever form of media.

One major problem with this game is how Josh focuses his revenge prank on Chris, Ash, and Sam when the major factors in the prank were Mike, Matt(who was recording), Emily, and Jess. Not to mention Chris was PASSED OUT with Josh during the prank and Sam had nothing to do with the prank and actually disapproved of what they were doing.

*This isn't Internet Jess. This is Real life - Mike 2015* lmao

Are we going to ignore how all the characters specifically Mike walk around like it's not cold at all

27:02 “THEN WHY DID YOU COME TO THE SAME PLACE WHERE THEY DIED LAST YEAR?!” Thank God I wasn’t the only one who is pissed off at that

I think the fact that Ashley kills Chris if he chooses to save himself rather than her should've been a sin. Especially since she was begging him to shoot her.

Spoiler alert: The reason dropping the phone was so important is because Hannah survived the fall, it's just to make it more realistic why she couldn't call anyone for help. It doesn't seem important at the time but it's just to get rid of people saying "But she could've done this what an idiot"

Also the "fourth phone this year" thing makes Jessica look even worse, when you consider the fact that it is only February... the year began two months ago... HOW!??

ya know i never realized how weird it was that even though Jess was already part of the friend group from the opening, for some reason they switch to acting like she's a new addition.

"This isn't the internet Jess, this is real life". Mike 2015. My sides.

OMG when he said Hannah was a bitch I never really thought that until he explained it lol.

33:46 This death actually makes complete sense, the guy may be an expert in dealing with these things but in this situation he was out of his element. Up until this point he dealt with the wendigos by himself, difference is this time around he had someone with him. Rewatch the scene, basically Chris inadvertently caused his death by being in the way of his flamethrower blast preventing what could've been an effective hit that routed the wendigo. The stranger had both himself and someone else to look out for which split his attention and focus, barking orders at Chris while simultaneously trying to contend with the wendigo. The stranger lasted as long as he did because he only had himself, and his survival/methods were solely catered to that. I guess you can consider it an uncontrollable butterfly effect the likes of which wrote the guy's death in stone by Chris making the choice to go look for Josh, had the stranger gone by himself he likely would've survived.

*chooses to shoot the squirrel* “Chris is a bad person to squirrels”

There's enough starwipes to create a whole new constellation.

You missed "Clearly experienced survivor with years of history fighting the Wendigo dies five minutes after hes introduced." Great vid dude, better than the competing gaming sins channels.

Characters don't see anything in the totem. Only players do.

If you choose for Matt to try to save Emily, Matt will die, and in the ending police interrogation, Emily says she doesn't care about Matt because he left her there to die. But, if you choose to leave Emily to fall, resulting in Matt gets to live (depending on if you don't die later while playing as Matt), and then Emily is all concerned about if Matt is alright or not. Did they accidentally switch those to scenes in the credits for Emily? Either way, what a bitch. *Sin*

There's a "gaming sins" on another channel that's very clearly sponsored and scripted with very unfunny jokes and sins that aren't really sins, just stupid nitpicks. I've seen a couple of them, and I have to say, You actually put a ton of love and effort into it that surpasses what people paid to do it do with a writing staff and sponsorship could ever do. You have more than earned a subscriber, a view on every video from me, and a couple handful of thumbs ups. Very well done.

Seems like they went for the "Everyone lives" ending. Unlike telltale, your choices really do matter.

Actually at 16:40, in the basement scene while Sam and Josh are talking, there’s a few seconds where you can see Chris sneaking around behind the shelves to get past them. It’s very subtle, but that’s how he gets down into the basement past them.

"Dawn, at the earliest. Not until dawn, over." "Role credits." This bothers me so much but holy shit it is such great wordplay.

That song is saying "oh death"? That makes way more sense, I thought it said "oh dad"

I feel so sorry for Josh :'( He was obviously sick and needed help beyond that asshole doctor. Not to mention that even his "friends" are completely apathetic to his obvious Paranoid Schizophrenia. The meds he was on were for depression, not PS. There is no happy ending for him. He doesn't get to go home. He doesn't get to get any help. Just death from a harsh, uncaring world.

until dawn is a game about how a prank goes wrong and freddy mercury wants revenge.

5th time watching this and I still don't get why they didn't bring any snacks and drinks with them...

"this game is already too much like supernatural" OOHHH SHIIIITTT

I lose all respect for Until Dawn videos when they say your choices don't matter. I've seen a lot of different outcomes. They matter. Also the fact that they die whether or not you drop Hannah or let go is important. That's the past. You can't change the past.

Can’t believe this game has been out for 5 years already

I love how ALLL the girls have perfectly manicured nails that stay perfect until the end of the game. Check it if you don't believe me.That's almost impossible.

The Starwipe shall be the response for all future lame jumpscares. So say we all.

Emily also claimed that that shirt she ripped to light her torch cost $600. It was a grey turtle neck. Where the hell do you find a grey turtle neck worth $600?!

This game was great but I just never got over the fact that sam and mike never froze to death. They were terribly underclothed and they even waded in water, which would surely result in hypothermia. Also Sam packed rock climbing clothes as if she knew she was going to climb

I loved this game when I bought it. I still think it's great. But the story sure relies on a lot of stupid events to work. The biggest one being the twins never being found. They were literally down in the most likely place, very close to the house, easily accessible by anyone, specially a rescue team...

Don't understand why people like Hannah so much. She didn't deserve to die, sure. But she wanted to get it on with a friend who was her other friend's boyfriend. If that isn't a breach of confidence that deserves total humilation, I don't know what is. I just can't bring myself to like her. Emily though at least is honest in her egotism and one hell of a tough woman. Ashley is the most human, tries to stay strong but succumbs to her weakness now and then. Sure, I also like Sam, but she's practically superhuman in terms of abilities and psyche. That's reassuring, but not very entertaining.

How did josh know where everyone was in the prank if he was passed out at the time?

I want to see a playthrough of this game where everyone makes the choices that the characters would genuinely make, given their personalities

Actually, sanatoriums build on mountains were a real thing. People used to believe that mountain air was good for tuberculosis. Their logic was: "Well, the air on this mountain seems to be pretty dry... It totally will dry the moisture from my patient's lungs"!

21:31 Emily is LITERALLY saying what the player has to do. I love games that reference the player.

"Mike should have shot him, he's heavily armed" Said the guy who just sinned someone for thinking the gun would actually shoot.

I have a sin: How did Josh know the exact position to set up those dolls in when he was passed out during that entire incident? I suppose he might have been able to guess based on the video Matt took, but that's a stretch.

Your actions actually do effect the outcome in this game

"When are you gonna take her to the BONE ZONE?"-Josh 2016 "Jesus hot sauce Christmas cake, this is fucking unbelievable."- Mike 2016 "A sexcapade." Jess 2016 "Understand the palm of my hand, bitch." Emily 2016 "Whatever you say, princess." Matt 2016 "Boom. Butterfly effect." Chris 2016 " Just GO, get OUT OF HERE!" Ashley 2016 "Well, it seems a towel doesn't seem to be the best outfit for fighting off killer maniacs." Sam 2016 "Hold on! Hold on!" Beth 2015 ( the year before) "I'm such an idiot. I'm so dumb." Hannah 2015 "This mountain don't belong to the Washingtons. This mountain belongs to the wendigo." Flamethrower guy 2016

Chris is a dick to squirrels. Crows are dicks to Sam I died laughing XD

Why is it that in anything horror, everyone loses the ability to flick a goddamn light switch?

He forgot to mention that the wolf made no sound as the Wendigo approached it. Mike is calling for the wolf to jump down with him and as the Wendigo came up on the wolf Not Once did the wolf growl nor did it at least whimper out of fear. It didn't even yelp before it died. The fuuuck.

How does the ENN stay on the air when their only listeners are protagonists, you ask? Because EVERYONE is a protagonist. In that world, every individual is the star of his or her own specific storyline, and the ENN takes care of the exposition for ALL OF IT. They are an extremely powerful and thorough network.

This game is very creepy. Not because it's trying to be, but because the faces give me the uncanny valley effect.

Pause at 17:43 and look at the background

Half of the sins were later explained, but his attention span is 5 seconds ig 💀

So you're not gonna point out that Jessica was standing still when the Wendigo grabbed her? Sure, she was moving and shouting outside before But the moment the Wendigo actually attacked her she was leaning against the door

18:51 "they were all iPhones, meaning nothing of real value was lost." hahahhahahahahhahah, couldn't agree more!

the reason it took sam “so long” to draw the bath was because all most the events are all happening at the same time. as mike and jess go up to the cabin is right when sam goes to start her bath so the scene where she says “hardy-hard” is happening as jess and mike are going to the cabin. its all happening at the same time

Here's another sin: If Chris knocks Josh out in the shed, Handigo still manages to find Josh and kidnaps him, even though an unconscious target shouldn't be moving and wendigos are effectively blind to stillness.

Obviously you can't control how the prologue turns out. It HAS to happen to set the events for the rest of the game. Why do people always complain about this point?

How did they lie about Emily's character bio? It's completely accurate lol. Intelligent - yes. Resourceful - yes Persuasive - yes + the fact that Matt is a total pushover which makes it easier too.

18:50, the game takes place on February 2nd-3rd, what the hell has she been doing to break three other phones

Until Dawn is one of the best games I have ever played!

Her dropping the phone in the beginning is shown to you, because, otherwise, why wouldn't she call someone after she fell, that dropping the phone is their 'Look, she dropped the phone, she can't call for help now'.

Even with the flaws I liked untill dawn it could have been better and for sure could have been worse

This was a new gaming experience I enjoyed immensely, cliche on purpose had it's faults but overall pretty awesome

Another sin: I didn't see the characters eat or drink anything so how did they have the energy to run? I would've been starving after the first hour 😭

well, Hannah and Beth both HAD to fall of the cliff, otherwise the story wouldn't have worked... who played through the whole game, knows what I mean Oh and the other choices effect your story and the end for real.

U probably know this but I still want to say it, you do know that the game is based on horror cliches right?

Nobody has like ever noticed the other windigos have clothes yet Hannah is wearing panties. She was dressed. Two sets of clothes even.

You forgot that they all had the most boring cliche names that make it difficult to remember who they are: Ashley Samantha Jessica Emily Chris Michael Matt Josh Literally the most boring names ever. And almost everyone who played through it struggled to remember whos who bc their names are so not unique or can be even possibly tied in w their personality or appearance to help memory

" take off your shirttt " " it offends the spiritsss " " I'm defiantly not Hannah/Bethhhh "

Add ANOTHER sin because in that Saferoom sin, if Emily is left alive and Ashley reads that book, Ash says "Oh no, no,no,no" It's a sin because she reacts so fucking inappropriate for the scene at hand!

"I can't imagine doing anything worse to someone" Have you ever seen a film called Carrie?

I always find myself coming back to this video 4 years later. i played the hell out of this game and got the platinum trophy. Your humor and how you describe the characters in the game makes me cry laugh at some points. I loved this game and i love this video.

The "Mike - 2015" quotes were cracking me up. I actually laughed out loud instead of breathing heavily through my nose with humor!

THEN WHY DID YOU COME TO THE SAME PLACE WHERE THEY DIED LAST YEAR... This, this alone made me finish this video, sub and watch 8 others at 6 am.

All of these sins are worthy, but this is still one of my favorite games.

This game is actually really good though, literally one of the best choice games out there

17:04 Ashley broke the #1 rule when it comes to ouija boards: NEVER ask if there's anyone there. You risk summoning demons and allowing them to hijack your body. Damn Ashley, do you not watch cliché horror movies?!

these actors are in their mid twentys and they are supposed to be playing teens ? no dude, the actors are in their mid twentys and they are playing characters that are in their twentys

18:15 18:50 27:03 28:29 37:35 13:01 dartigan is a man of culture

I have no idea if this has been addressed, and I know this video was made years ago, and this doesn’t even matter much, but some sins are just from not paying attention like with Mike’s gun. That is a loaded gun that Mike obtained in the sanatorium. The guns don’t even look the same. The door Chris struggles with is a different door tho that scene is still ridiculous lol. The flamethrower guy drops his bag as he walks into the lodge. The next scene after Chris comes back we see the group in the basement. It’s likely they took it down with them.

Am I the only one who thought Matt was way hotter than Mike? Matt is probably the only likable character (in my opinion anyway) in the whole game besides Sam. Mike just reminds me of Nathan Drake who's kind of a douche. He also looks like the kind of guy who'd enjoy a Jersey Shore episode. Again just my opinion.

"Plus she's rich." "Hannah is a b*tch" Yo that rhymed

This is my favorite of your videos. I've listened to this (I listen to youtube while working) over 10 times and counting. Thank you Dartigan. Thank you for all the entertainment you provide, with your ours of recording and editing (I know how hard and boring it can get).

I've been watching several of these sin videos lately and they are plateaus above any other channels. I find you have a very sarcastic humor and I love sarcastic humor. Keep up the awesome videos!

no subtitles on the game? literally unwatchable edit: lmao i've never seen people so outraged over such a minor complaint. i'm sorry for my crimes, i've been tried and i'm currently doing time in the youtube prison for disliking the lack of subtitles

You and GCN should do a collaboration together.

For the game's defense, Chris IS humorous. His humor's just shit is all

This channel is infinitely funnier than gaming sins

See, when I say "I'm just getting into the bath!" I mean that the water has filled the tub, I'm probably half way naked at least, and I've already got one foot in the tub. When Sam says she can't help Josh set up the fire because she's "just about to get into the bath", she's fully clothed and hasn't drawn any water at all. This was honestly something that ticked me off so damn much

Jessica fell down multiple stories of an elevator shaft with twisted metal following her down. I don't think Mike was wrong for thinking her dead 😄

Additional sin! Blank rounds can still kill or cause sufficient injury at point blank!

Before I say anything, I want say that I am a huge fan and I love your KZfaq channel (shout out in particular to the FFXIII sins videos, I have re-watched them countless times). There are a few things I wanted to point out (some in response to some of the sins and others my own interpretations). I am sure others have mentioned them as well, but I haven’t seen them in the comments lol. -For the sin about having barrels of combustible fluids, I believe that the flamethrower guy must have amassed them from somewhere, it may not have anything to do with the sanatorium itself. -The reason Sam reacted the way she did when she saw flamethrower guy’s journal is that she learns that he has several wendigos in captivity in the sanatorium, which is where Mike is headed. -The ghost lady jumpscare was explained in-game. While playing through that scene, you can find a camera, and I THINK a projector of some sort (can’t remember, but I know there were two clues in that one room). It wasn’t the robot that Josh built. -I believe Josh never encountered a Wendigo while setting up the prank because he never left close proximity of the lodge, while flamethrower guy had all of the other wendigos under control. It’s not super clear when Josh set it all up so Hannah may not have become a wendigo at this point, and even then, she seems to retain some of her memories as a human, seeing as she has Josh in her hold in various parts of the game but doesn’t seem to harm him (until that one part close to the end). -Which brings me to another interesting point. It takes a really long time for the Hannah wendigo to actually go after Mike or Sam (there is even a scene where she pulls Mike under water and he escapes unharmed). I believe she still recognizes them and that she stops herself from going after them (which would explain not only how Sam escaped the Wendigo during the running back to the lodge scene, but also why it went after Jessica first and was so sneaky about it). I would remove a few sins for that. -Lastly I have a feeling that Emily is generally disliked, but can we talk about Ashley for a second? Girl is very gullible and dives into Josh’s plan headfirst at several points, panics every two seconds and ends up acting out in really dumb ways that put herself (separating from the group to find “Jessica” after reading herself that the wendigo can imitate its prey) and others (immediately jumping to the conclusion that Emily is becoming a wendigo for being bitten by one) in danger. Emily has an attitude but at least she can handle herself, whereas Ashley in an actual horror movie setting would probably die first. Anyway, I apologize for the long comment, and keep up the good work!! Your videos are hilarious 😊

This guy has a nice voice.

"I remember that thing that happened right behind me that I never saw."- Dartigan That had me laughing

I don’t think you can blame the therapist for not being realistic when the point was that he was a delusion the whole time...

half of those aren’t sins at all. 0:23 the reason they show the characters’ twitching faces in the menu is probably to make you uncomfortable with the proximity 0:42 that’s just ridiculous. camera angles are obviously meant to show the information that is the most interesting and/or important to the viewer 0:58 first of all, it’s dark in the entire lodge (and the fact that it’s never explained is a sin, but that’s not what we’re talking about rn). second of all, they obviously never meant to hide for long, emily wouldn’t allow hannah and mike to actually make out, so they didn't need good hiding places 1:42 she is being dramatic, but it’s inderstandable. though no sex was filmed, it’s still a giant embarrassment, especially for a “good girl” that hannah’s used to being. everyone saw her willingness to instantly undress for mike the second he offered sex while he was still dating someone else, that’s desperate and humiliating. not to mention, hannah’s quite likely a virgin. it’s very understandable for me that she wanted to physically remove herself from the house. 1:53 what is wrong with quick time events? in a game like this, where a lot realistically depends on how agile characters manage to be, they’re a great feature 2:14 it is important because even though there is no phone connection on the mountain, hannah could’ve used the phone to make sound or light signals to locate herself after the fall. she apparently didn’t have her phone on her so beth’s was the only option 3:33 the therapist is josh’s hallucination and josh’s head is a mess. the therapist was obviously meant to be weird and obnoxious. 4:21 i assume sam’s rewatching the video because she finds the idea of going back strange and is worried for josh so she’s trying to get a better understanding of what he has planned 4:38 why is everyone always so surprises that when josh invites everyone to the mountain with a secret purpose, the excuse he makes to get them to come makes no sense? it makes no sense because it’s not the truth. 5:44 if there was a run button, everyone would run all of the time. and that ruins the immersion, because in real life people walk most of the time. 12:32 why do people always act like a character acting irrationally is a sin? emily overreacts and makes things up because she’s jealous, that’s as easy as that. 13:17 i’m pretty sure emily is supposed to be 100% unlikeable at the beginning and that’s okay 13:40 the house is big enough to fit everyone and they were having a party last year so they were supposed to all hang out together. it’s perfectly possible for jess to not know where the cabin is. 17:34 sinse chris apologises, i assume he knew about the prank before getting drunk and didn’t do anything to stop it. they told sam, hannah’s best friend and the most reasonable person here, about the prank, so why would they hide it from chris? 19:12 they did have to run away from a wendigo that they thought was a bear, that does kind of ruin your mood 19:27 how is that a sin? mike likes jess and he wants to get her to sleep with him so he would obviously say that 19:37 they literally are in high school 20:38 you don’t set wood on fire with a lighter, you need something you can throw in the fireplace and leave it there (i.e. a match) 21:11 probably because josh was drawing inspiration from this movie? 21:22 the first stage is always denyal and that is normal 24:27 the reason she kept the light on is, surprisingly, because you shot the squirrel at the beginning (seriously, why would you do that?). because of that, she had a scratch on her eye from the crow and that distracted her. so it’s you who failed, not sam. 25:37 she doesn’t have a stable ground to make a good enough jump from. the ledge is clearly not “just a few feet away”. moreover, if she tried to jump, she probably would just deform the gate more and possibly end up with nothing to stand on. 27:27 she’s extremely on edge with a lot of adrenaline, she would obviously react strongly to the tiniest things 27:45 this was set up by josh. why can’t he add a tacky jumspscare into his tacky maniac story? 28:53 probably because the killer isn’t actually a killer and wants to create an engaging story? it would be a lot less interesting if sam had spent the rest of the night tied up in a locked room alone. 29:04 while this does look suspicious, mike is athletic and chris is a nerd so mike would obviously be stronger 32:03 how is that a sin? emily and mike still being strongly attached to one another is a part of the plot, regardless of whether you believe that they’re secretly together or not 32:12 didn’t you say that you know the gun is full of blanks like a minute ago? 33:32 chris acts irrational in this scene because he’s caring. exactly the trait that he’s originally described as and that you said he actually didn’t have 34:33 he was shown putting his bag on the floor earlier. obviously they took the bag with them when they went to the basement 36:36 the flamethrower guy lived here. the explosive liquid is probably the fuel for the flamethrower.