Game Theory: Phoenix Wright is a CRIMINAL (Ace Attorney)

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@ramen2716
@ramen2716 3 жыл бұрын
Remember, we're talking about a game where one of the prosecutors hits the judge with a whip
@woofyou1186
@woofyou1186 3 жыл бұрын
And where a different prosecutor almost murders Phoenix Oh and where one throws a coffee mug at anyone who confronts them
@girosvaldodeskate2214
@girosvaldodeskate2214 3 жыл бұрын
@@woofyou1186OBJECTION godot doesn't throw coffee at anyone, he just throw coffee on trite because he hates him
@woofyou1186
@woofyou1186 3 жыл бұрын
@@girosvaldodeskate2214 Hold It! he’s probably done it to more tho
@girosvaldodeskate2214
@girosvaldodeskate2214 3 жыл бұрын
@@woofyou1186 OBJECTION ! the only other 2 characters that we see that he don't like, is a dead person, and a person he only encountered one time, so you have no evidence or motive to suport your claim
@woofyou1186
@woofyou1186 3 жыл бұрын
@@girosvaldodeskate2214 objection! It’s obvious that Godot experienced some emotional trauma, and is not a very good person. Based on the amount of coffee he drinks, and enemies he would have made as a prosecutor - it’s extremely likely it has happened at least once, despite not knowing if it truly did
@broman55gaming
@broman55gaming 4 жыл бұрын
Now that I’ve played the games, I can confidently say Phoenix’s actions are least of this courtrooms problems
@adorluigi
@adorluigi 4 жыл бұрын
whipping the judge, throwing a cup of coffee on someone, faking being taken as a hostage by a wooden dummy ... etc
@CYBER_N0T
@CYBER_N0T 4 жыл бұрын
Literal suicide in the courtroom and spirit channeling takes place too
@randomsorcerer1801
@randomsorcerer1801 4 жыл бұрын
Ya it's... Problematic to say the least
@ambergilbert7216
@ambergilbert7216 4 жыл бұрын
And an orca somehow being prosecuted.
@CYBER_N0T
@CYBER_N0T 4 жыл бұрын
A courtroom gets bombed in the middle of a trial
@pixelz8626
@pixelz8626 3 жыл бұрын
OBJECTION! *That theory is O U T D A T E D, Your Honor.*
@loushicharara4640
@loushicharara4640 3 жыл бұрын
I herby Phoenix Wright N O T G U I L T Y!
@minignoux4566
@minignoux4566 3 жыл бұрын
I requested a new theory yesterday. I received it this morning
@adriKat653
@adriKat653 3 жыл бұрын
lmao underrated comment
@jennaproulx4987
@jennaproulx4987 3 жыл бұрын
Yea it is old like comments being toxic
@motivationgobye59
@motivationgobye59 3 жыл бұрын
Hold it! U n d e r r a t e d
@OliyTC
@OliyTC 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with this theory is that in this world detectives explicitly work for the prosecution and all evidence can be hidden from the defense until the prosecution presents it in court. The defense basically acts as their own investigators because they have to. It's not a good system, but the system is consistent and the prosecution follows similar rules.
@iananderson4754
@iananderson4754 2 жыл бұрын
yeah now that i think about it thats highly unusual and could potentially be abusive
@justbny9278
@justbny9278 2 жыл бұрын
@@iananderson4754 i think it works more from the gameplay pov as it puts you as the defense a little more on edge right?
@metinhesenov
@metinhesenov 8 ай бұрын
​@justbny9278 yeah I mean if we haven't need to investigate on our own and you had to cut investigation parts from the game, it will become significantly shorter and boring as well considering you discover a lot of the story in this parts
@keeprollin9911
@keeprollin9911 3 ай бұрын
@@metinhesenov maybe you could play in the detectives POV during the investigation parts and then back to the defense attorney's POV during the trials.
@Tatsuk1Akag1
@Tatsuk1Akag1 6 жыл бұрын
WELL EDGEWORTH SURPRISED THE COURT TOO WHEN HE BROUGHT THE FREAKING UPDATED AUTOPSY REPORT!!!!
@Geoform187
@Geoform187 5 жыл бұрын
In case two, but why was that not aforementioned? Better yet, why does the video frame Phoenix Wright of being the criminal-minded one here against a team of prosecutors that defy the judicial system that the game imposes?
@mar_speedman
@mar_speedman 5 жыл бұрын
The Wolf Link Yeah, it's like he deliberately ignored the fact Von Karma tasered Wright and stole all his files on a previous case lol
@simpingforshoto_1015
@simpingforshoto_1015 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah,it's true bc Phoenix said he didn't get the dated autopsy report, which is a wrong doing. So, Game T. What do you gotta say?
@mohalemafohla7721
@mohalemafohla7721 5 жыл бұрын
Yes he did
@jessejames4722
@jessejames4722 5 жыл бұрын
... okay? Why does that magically make Wright innocent lol
@bmsvg7356
@bmsvg7356 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmm This reminds me of a certain character. I believe his name was Miles-I-withhold-evidence-and-pull-out-an-updated-autopsy-report-out-of-nowhere/Edgeworth.
@Gechi22
@Gechi22 4 жыл бұрын
@Bleh Oof also Mia-I'm-dead-but-come-back-almost-too-late-to-save-the-case-Fey
@halluvicmin1914
@halluvicmin1914 4 жыл бұрын
And Mr. von-Taser-the-defense-attorney-and-his-sort-of-assistant-to-steal-the-file-evidence-and-to-cover-up-me-murdering-my-student's-dad-to-get-my-revenge-for-him-ruining-my-clean-record-Karma.
@shadowclaw7210
@shadowclaw7210 4 жыл бұрын
For fictional world they have long lastnames.
@sbcd7808
@sbcd7808 4 жыл бұрын
I'm seeing a trend here
@bmsvg7356
@bmsvg7356 4 жыл бұрын
SBCD I hadn’t noticed Mr SB-I-can-see-obvious-similarity’s-amongst-people-CD
@ghrey8557
@ghrey8557 3 жыл бұрын
Edgeworth to MatPat- *"You're not a clown, You're the entire circus."*
@crabinfestation7487
@crabinfestation7487 3 жыл бұрын
CIRCUE TO THE RESCUE!
@cipollalord8066
@cipollalord8066 3 жыл бұрын
Maximillion Galactica intensifies
@kingkomedy1300
@kingkomedy1300 2 жыл бұрын
That's edgeworth to everybody
@JustAM0nkey
@JustAM0nkey Жыл бұрын
This aged….
@AquaQuokka
@AquaQuokka 4 ай бұрын
You don't wanna talk about clowns in Ace Attorney 😅
@chesonnor1646
@chesonnor1646 3 жыл бұрын
4:47 Edgeworth, the case's prosecutor, has no idea that that thing exists and has no chance to think about the evidence Me in my head: what about that time edgeworth suprised everyone with an updated autopsy report which pheonix did not know about?
@kek-senpai243
@kek-senpai243 3 жыл бұрын
Or the fact that edgeworth did know the bellboy and told him to stay quiet.
@tainted2141
@tainted2141 2 жыл бұрын
@@kek-senpai243 and if u play the second or third game or 5th case it tells u about the law
@notme8232
@notme8232 2 жыл бұрын
@@kek-senpai243 Or the fact that von Karma, in case 4, coached Lotta not to mention very important parts of her testimony.
@legendarywiimaster
@legendarywiimaster 10 ай бұрын
@@notme8232which von Karma?
@notme8232
@notme8232 10 ай бұрын
@@legendarywiimaster The one in the first game
@jabba233hutt3
@jabba233hutt3 4 жыл бұрын
USA: You are innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Japan: You are guilty until proven innocent beyond a reasonable doubt.
@vaporizedhollow98
@vaporizedhollow98 4 жыл бұрын
Phoenix Wright: You are guilty, not until you prove innocence, but when you find the true murderer.
@idkarl3364
@idkarl3364 4 жыл бұрын
@@vaporizedhollow98 that's too accurate
@lu-em6wr
@lu-em6wr 4 жыл бұрын
Vaporized Hollow well somebody’s guilty, and we don’t get paid if we don’t arrest anyone, right?
@sherlockas1546
@sherlockas1546 4 жыл бұрын
So true
@wistful3631
@wistful3631 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Liu 1223 exactly
@tugaoenshanessas.8667
@tugaoenshanessas.8667 5 жыл бұрын
1:50 Matpat: *says phoenix is on trial but puts phoenix in the judge's seat*
@ninjagamer9086
@ninjagamer9086 5 жыл бұрын
LOL guess pheniox is the juge of his own case
@AbdulAhad0128
@AbdulAhad0128 5 жыл бұрын
Not guilty verdict in a matter of seconds
@raducristianudrea5017
@raducristianudrea5017 4 жыл бұрын
well of course hes even defended himself
@verschilles
@verschilles 4 жыл бұрын
3:49 > Shows Phoenix > Apollo Justice's "TAKE THAT!"
@imaonion1217
@imaonion1217 4 жыл бұрын
Future Phoenix: Not guilty
@thenabbitgamer
@thenabbitgamer 3 жыл бұрын
5:05 But Edgeworth did know that the bellboy existed as a witness. The bellboy literally says “because Mr.Edgeworth told me not to tell you unless I was directly asked” so Edgeworth clearly knew about him. Please use a better example.
@thenabbitgamer
@thenabbitgamer 3 жыл бұрын
If anything that means that the prosecutors should be arrested for bending the trial themselves, not Pheonix.
@Poofee01
@Poofee01 3 жыл бұрын
you just OBJECTIONd matpat
@Alb410
@Alb410 2 жыл бұрын
Overruled. you didn't say Objection :/
@kv-2537
@kv-2537 2 жыл бұрын
Also karma suggested to call the parrot as a witness and egdeworth wasn’t even prosecuting
@thenabbitgamer
@thenabbitgamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alb410 OBJECTION that doesn’t change anything
@somebodylikesbacon1960
@somebodylikesbacon1960 3 жыл бұрын
"Edgeworth had no idea that pill bottle exists' Also Edgeworth: *Your autopsy report is outdated*
@CyberVirus549
@CyberVirus549 8 жыл бұрын
I thought Phoenix never took any of the evidence or even touched it, but just made a note of it.
@batsandbabydollsvods
@batsandbabydollsvods 8 жыл бұрын
You are correct. That part of the theory was based on a misunderstanding of the game's mechanics.
@JackalopeBunny
@JackalopeBunny 8 жыл бұрын
um he did I think? Its been awhile since I played it, but I think in one game he presents a piece of evidence he actually touched and the piece of evidence was something only he himself knew about and broke the case.. So ;/
@batsandbabydollsvods
@batsandbabydollsvods 8 жыл бұрын
It happens, and when it does, it's obvious from a story standpoint. But in that case, it's usually something given to him or something that seemed unrelated to the case until a certain moment. But the court record is not Phoenix's inventory and he doesn't pick everything up. The receipt that MatPat cited as an example was not taken from the crime scene. It's actually the first thing the detective notices and it's the reason that Maya was detained as a suspect. The first person to bring it up in court was the prosecution. Which would be obvious if you played the game, so I don't believe he really did.
@batsandbabydollsvods
@batsandbabydollsvods 8 жыл бұрын
Basically things in the court record being things Phoenix picked up are the exceptions, not the rule. And the one specific example that MatPat picked was definitely NOT one of those exceptions.
@llewelynshingler2173
@llewelynshingler2173 8 жыл бұрын
You are correct.
@birdsnestisstupid
@birdsnestisstupid 4 жыл бұрын
“He tried to bend the trial to fit his needs” Edgeworth: y-yeah! That’s wrong, Wright! Von Karma: t-totally! What were you thinking wright?
@clone796
@clone796 4 жыл бұрын
Thats what i thought all the video lol
@angiebeaudoin9926
@angiebeaudoin9926 4 жыл бұрын
Fransiska: *uses whip*
@noodles9442
@noodles9442 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is with the forged evidence he doesn't do it himself. it was the detectives.
@panthertakamaki7141
@panthertakamaki7141 4 жыл бұрын
Gotot:sips coffee
@helloimme9198
@helloimme9198 3 жыл бұрын
m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eaiEoMSouNHNkpc.html Not a rick roll I swear
@brandontan2335
@brandontan2335 3 жыл бұрын
MattPat: -And this is why Phoenix Wright is a crim- Everyone: *OBJECTION*
@theboithatwillbeveryverymi9479
@theboithatwillbeveryverymi9479 3 жыл бұрын
yep, Pat's objection has been overruled lol.
@Spottedshade
@Spottedshade 3 жыл бұрын
Game Theory: Phoenix Wright got away with it! Kristoph Gavin: Ah, I see you’re a man of culture as well.
@doriancostley9075
@doriancostley9075 8 жыл бұрын
OBJECTION! This doesn't seem shocking when you remember that a prosecutor whips the JUDGE in the middle of the session when things aren't going her way. Their judicial system has as much in common with our laws and customs as an apple and an orange. They are both fruit and share the traits that fruit often share, but if you are given an apple and only have experiences with apples, you can't understand an orange. Therefore, without further information about this court system you cannot make these slanderous claims!
@jjmara01
@jjmara01 8 жыл бұрын
this is a court where people can bash in with surprise evidence and they go "i allow it" and it is "guilty till proven innocent"
@ryismazin
@ryismazin 8 жыл бұрын
In Japan, tampering with evidence is illegal.
@aajjeee
@aajjeee 8 жыл бұрын
How's your coffee man
@raymondbrasuell2564
@raymondbrasuell2564 8 жыл бұрын
Edgeworth did it in episode two with the autopsy report, claiming it to be "Updated". If the coroners were smart enough to get the cause of death right in the first episode, then they shouldn't've had to redo it in the second.
@Glatix
@Glatix 8 жыл бұрын
The game takes place in LA. Watch the video.
@bigyoshi7134
@bigyoshi7134 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow I didn't know a game that has physically abusive prosecutors, spirit mediums, testifying animals and having them as defendants, where a verdict is handed out within three days could in anyway be inaccurate in the real world
@pheonixwrong2461
@pheonixwrong2461 3 жыл бұрын
Because, all of it is fiction.
@bigyoshi7134
@bigyoshi7134 3 жыл бұрын
@@pheonixwrong2461 What? Video games aren't real life!??!1??11!!!1!1!1!
@pheonixwrong2461
@pheonixwrong2461 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigyoshi7134 yes!!1!1!1! fiction of course!
@webs2099
@webs2099 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigyoshi7134 no they are we are the fake ones video games are real
@bigyoshi7134
@bigyoshi7134 3 жыл бұрын
@@webs2099 reject society, welcome gaming. We live in a society, gamers rise up
@theshermantanker7043
@theshermantanker7043 3 жыл бұрын
"He tried to bend the trial to fit his needs" Every prosecutor in the game besides Franziska, Payne, and Klavier: *Intense sweating*
@soliarsystem
@soliarsystem 3 жыл бұрын
didnt franziska scare the judge into obeying her
@brunokimbao968
@brunokimbao968 3 жыл бұрын
@@soliarsystem yes, but it didn´t affect anything it was just for some jokes
@kv-2537
@kv-2537 2 жыл бұрын
Edge: I have an updated autopsy report
@zimonzieclown1633
@zimonzieclown1633 2 жыл бұрын
Except Franziska? Come on! Also, the only reason Payne doesn't is because he sucks.
@HyLion
@HyLion 2 жыл бұрын
@@brunokimbao968 She literally presented an illegally obtained photo under the pretense that as long as the judge looks at it, the info will be burned in his mind and she doesnt actually need to register the evidence legally
@kek-senpai243
@kek-senpai243 3 жыл бұрын
If you actually played the game, you would know that there exists a book about evidence. It has 2 rules. 1. No evidence shall be submitted without the approval of the Police Department. 2. Unregistered evidence presented must be relevant to the case in trial Just try to play the game next time.
@laraechesney
@laraechesney 2 жыл бұрын
I think he might've played a version that didn't have the 5th trial, from the graphics of his screenshots lol
@liviealamode
@liviealamode 2 жыл бұрын
​@@laraechesney it had gant's office so he at least acknowledged it in the video
@ultibee509
@ultibee509 2 жыл бұрын
@@laraechesney he play gba version with english rom hack.
@n4tur414
@n4tur414 2 жыл бұрын
That’s in rise from the ashes, very hard to get
@superblitz2274
@superblitz2274 2 жыл бұрын
@@n4tur414 is it? I literally pirated it and it had the 5th case
@squidddinator
@squidddinator 7 жыл бұрын
Are we sure MatPat's badge isn't made of cardboard?
@phoenixwright4291
@phoenixwright4291 7 жыл бұрын
I took a Closer look after His Agents Arrest me (Because he Didn't Called the Actual Police) and Yes, it's Cardboard
@reset6292
@reset6292 7 жыл бұрын
is this a reference to the series?
@squidddinator
@squidddinator 7 жыл бұрын
CyberWardenYT​ yup. Case 2 in the third game
@reset6292
@reset6292 7 жыл бұрын
i knew it
@lillialuna8651
@lillialuna8651 7 жыл бұрын
Case 3 in the third game, actually.
@_Baku
@_Baku 8 жыл бұрын
Except.... Phoenix DOES get arrested and disbarred in the fourth game for presenting unlawful evidence? At least play all the games first, MatPat.
@sub7se7en
@sub7se7en 8 жыл бұрын
That doesn't make MatPat wrong. He's still a criminal. He called it bruv.
@helenmay3893
@helenmay3893 8 жыл бұрын
By MatPat's logic every prosecutor is also a criminal for hiding evidence, and some even more so (Franziska and Manfred Von Karma) for actually attacking people.
@sub7se7en
@sub7se7en 8 жыл бұрын
Helen May Attacking people is a crime, and so is hiding evidence. Also, every prosecutor doesn't do that. Generalizing isn't cool bro.
@helenmay3893
@helenmay3893 8 жыл бұрын
I did say it is a crime. I've only played up to Apollo Justice, and every prosecutor did hide evidence in some way.
@sub7se7en
@sub7se7en 8 жыл бұрын
Helen May Oh, I thought you were talking about real life. My mistake.
@ultraomega6274
@ultraomega6274 3 жыл бұрын
Mat Pat: Phoenix is a criminal Edgeworth: I believe your brain is OUTDATED
@tebby6621
@tebby6621 3 жыл бұрын
Game Theory: phoenix guilt- Comments: theme starts playing*
@shadowknightdxd6865
@shadowknightdxd6865 3 жыл бұрын
Literraly while i am reading the comme t section i am hearing Pressing Pursuit - Cornered
@swagsiciles
@swagsiciles 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowknightdxd6865 nah I can hear matpat saying why do I hear boss music.
@loushicharara4640
@loushicharara4640 3 жыл бұрын
Lol these comments are defending pheonix lol
@kv-2537
@kv-2537 2 жыл бұрын
Me who actually played the game : Objection Matt do you truly believe that Phoenix is making surprise evidence Matt: yes Music starts playing Me : then why did edgeworth had an updated autopsy report and Phoenix did not know Matt: 🤭
@dbclass4075
@dbclass4075 Жыл бұрын
@@loushicharara4640 With loads of evidences.
@LaserFace23
@LaserFace23 8 жыл бұрын
>The game that no-one's ever played I mean... Speak for yourself, pleb.
@vincenzocirillo7380
@vincenzocirillo7380 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I am playing this game in Italy.
@ImmaLittlePip
@ImmaLittlePip 8 жыл бұрын
>Game isn't popular in America but it is in Japan [cringed internally]
@vincenzocirillo7380
@vincenzocirillo7380 8 жыл бұрын
Besides this theory is full of holes.
@LaserFace23
@LaserFace23 8 жыл бұрын
ImmaLittlePip Yeah, I'm actually fairly certain he got that entirely backwards, right?
@jamesundefined6795
@jamesundefined6795 8 жыл бұрын
I played the first 3 games
@starnicu4660
@starnicu4660 4 жыл бұрын
MatPat: So I’m putting our favorite lawyer on trial- **puts him on the judge stand**
@HardFard27
@HardFard27 3 жыл бұрын
Phoenix: this court finds the defendant phoenix wright *N O T G U I L T Y*
@ghrey8557
@ghrey8557 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@VoidWilbyte
@VoidWilbyte 3 жыл бұрын
*What an uncultured swine* 😂 (Im just kidding)
@augustomoreira7441
@augustomoreira7441 Жыл бұрын
phoenix: ooh, surprise promotion!
@sreedevprasad2625
@sreedevprasad2625 3 жыл бұрын
Comments:- Proves Mat’s theory is inaccurate Mat:-NGOOGH
@videakias3000
@videakias3000 2 жыл бұрын
the comments don't prove the innacuracies in his video,the comments talk about how he told us something that is already common knowledge.
@pawncube6787
@pawncube6787 2 жыл бұрын
MatPat: Edgeworth has no clue that Wright has these pieces of evidence. Edgeworth: Laughs in *Updated Autopsy Report*
@RD_Gravehill
@RD_Gravehill 4 жыл бұрын
MatPat: Phoenix is the criminal because he keeps bluffing! Phoenix: .... Edgeworth, Von Karma, and Franziska: *cha cha real smooth* :^)
@jaideninky3929
@jaideninky3929 3 жыл бұрын
He did it boys! He said it! *Air horn noises*
@galinabojarova3237
@galinabojarova3237 3 жыл бұрын
Both von Karmas in a nutshell Manfred: *Forged evidence, told his witnesses what to say, took control of the court and scaring the judge etc etc Franziska: *whipping noises*
@RD_Gravehill
@RD_Gravehill 3 жыл бұрын
@@galinabojarova3237 not only that but Manfred literally committed AND admitted to murder lmao dude even told a whole backstory
@galinabojarova3237
@galinabojarova3237 3 жыл бұрын
@@RD_Gravehill Yeah lol.
@sherriehubble3590
@sherriehubble3590 3 жыл бұрын
PHOENIX IS NOT CRIMINAL!!!!!!!
@commanding3335
@commanding3335 5 жыл бұрын
Matpat:phoenix Wright is a bad guy Fans of game: OBJECTION👉🏻 Edit: I never got this many likes before! Thank you all 😊
@Luka-bt2ve
@Luka-bt2ve 5 жыл бұрын
Well, I suppose nobody would like to hear that.
@commanding3335
@commanding3335 5 жыл бұрын
Ok
@mariokartt466
@mariokartt466 5 жыл бұрын
Me
@unbxn9351
@unbxn9351 5 жыл бұрын
Well..read the top comment-
@songsakchandrasakha7987
@songsakchandrasakha7987 5 жыл бұрын
Matpat fans: HOLD IT 🖕🖕
@jellyjackcheese
@jellyjackcheese 3 жыл бұрын
I love how he says he played the game, but based on the video, he didn't even pay close enough attention to know everything that was going on. Kinda funny, seeing as how this whole series is based on attention to detail.
@neonbunnies9596
@neonbunnies9596 2 жыл бұрын
Such as...
@TW13024
@TW13024 2 жыл бұрын
@@neonbunnies9596 you clearly never played any of the games
@neonbunnies9596
@neonbunnies9596 2 жыл бұрын
@@TW13024 yes, and I would like to know, as I haven't played the games
@TW13024
@TW13024 2 жыл бұрын
@@neonbunnies9596 just look up a video call defending ace attorney the video explain everything
@voidpickle5684
@voidpickle5684 2 жыл бұрын
@@neonbunnies9596 such as: Phoenix didn’t hide the note, gumshoe saw it, which is literally why he needed to defend a 17 year old and explain to the court why it’s BS this child killed her own sister. Another time matpat clearly wasn’t paying attention was when he kept saying stuff about the constitutions and amendments and federal laws, even though it’s been proven this is not only a Japan based legal system, but at the start Phoenix says that it’s legal hell, implying the rules are easily stretched and bent.
@Tyxaar
@Tyxaar Жыл бұрын
Matpat: PHOENIX IS THE WORST MOST CORRUPT 'ATTORNEY' EVER. Meanwhile, at the prosecutor's office: A 70-year-old trial speedrunner, a lady who regularly assaults everyone in court with her whip, a traumatised coffee-hurling robocop, and Miles 'updated autopsy report' Edgeworth. Also that other dude is there as well I guess.
@bartekkaminski3274
@bartekkaminski3274 5 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, the tutorial dude what was his name again?
@HornetofHallownest
@HornetofHallownest 4 ай бұрын
@@bartekkaminski3274Winston Payne
@jamzgamez3368
@jamzgamez3368 4 ай бұрын
winston payne. he is also the only attorney in the series who has never done anything illegal.@@bartekkaminski3274
@CheeserMeo
@CheeserMeo 2 ай бұрын
You mean the janitor?
@Tyxaar
@Tyxaar 2 ай бұрын
@@CheeserMeo Yeah him I forgot his name.
@deadinside1036
@deadinside1036 5 жыл бұрын
right brain: i’ll never look at nick the same way ever again left brain: *OBJECTION!*
@RevAustin68
@RevAustin68 5 жыл бұрын
Lungs: *HOLD IT*
@deadinside1036
@deadinside1036 5 жыл бұрын
REV, Finger: *TAKE THAT!*
@pakacha8999
@pakacha8999 5 жыл бұрын
Right brain: *OBJECTION DENIED* Heart: Order! I will HAVE ORDER!
@w1nnii
@w1nnii 5 жыл бұрын
*OBJECTION OVERRULED* 😤
@isaactorres2163
@isaactorres2163 5 жыл бұрын
Stomach:HOLD IT I HAVE EVIDENCE
@SolaireFlair
@SolaireFlair 3 жыл бұрын
I want to point out that Phoenix didn't hide the receipt with Maya's name on it, and in fact Gumshoe discovered it and it's the reason Maya was arrested on the spot under suspicion of murder
@CountNikiko
@CountNikiko 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah idk where he got that info gumshoe found it
@loushicharara4640
@loushicharara4640 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@luisasia1412
@luisasia1412 3 жыл бұрын
What about the wiretap
@melvinjones6862
@melvinjones6862 2 жыл бұрын
@@luisasia1412 Illegaly obtained, but i'm not sure it would get you disbarred or in prison. Would deal a really serious blow to your carreer though.
@TW13024
@TW13024 2 жыл бұрын
@@melvinjones6862 not really The rules and ace attorney says as long as the evidence is relevant to the case it’s fine
@min3bubblegum
@min3bubblegum 3 жыл бұрын
*Apollo Justice Ace Attorney, Turnabout Succession, flashback* Phoenix: "So, you're accusing me in forging the evidence?" Klavier: "Um, actually, not only, Herr Wright…" *shows this video*
@nix.i
@nix.i 3 жыл бұрын
this video is complete bs, matt had finished, even played, the fifth case of the first game then he would have realized that too. therefore, mr. gavins evidence changes nothing to the facts of this case
@amirmohammad4948
@amirmohammad4948 Жыл бұрын
If a prosecutor can steal evidence from a police department and use a stun gun against a 17 year old girl with no reason, I think it's safe to say phoenix's methods are totally fine
@prismaflex6195
@prismaflex6195 7 жыл бұрын
"So today, I'm putting gaming's most famous attorney on trial." *places him in the jugde's seat
@makokitsune6487
@makokitsune6487 6 жыл бұрын
I cought that one to XD " I Phoenix Wright consider myself..." *Not Guilty* XD
@yodachaingun6462
@yodachaingun6462 6 жыл бұрын
in case you didn't know it's at 1:45
@aaron75fy
@aaron75fy 6 жыл бұрын
innocent due to sudden promotion
@markaldrichsoria466
@markaldrichsoria466 6 жыл бұрын
OBJECTION!
@terylene_n
@terylene_n 4 жыл бұрын
OBJECTION! The thing is sure, Phoenix does do his best and sometimes uses bluffing to defend his clients and find the truth, but that is because the prosecutors that he stands against are the ones bending the truth and reality by not concealing certain facts which might reveal that the defendant is not guilty (the Von Karma case), by changing crucial evidence (such as that autopsy report by Edgeworth) which is why this game is such a cool series. Sure, sometimes the legality of the characters' actions in this game is questionable as this is a...game but the game's main plot point is the story of this defense attorney that has won seemingly unwinable cases (due to the shady prosecutors he is up against) because he points out what seems to be "irrelevant" evidence that ends up being the turning point of the trial (this also happens a lot in Detective Conan, although not in a court trial setting, but it happened once where one of the juror was Conan's teacher). While I see what this video is trying to do, there are a lot of problems. HOLD IT! 1. A lot of people have talked about this but the wiretap evidence in April May's room was included legally in the game as Court Evidence and was not slipped into his pocket (this action happens later on, you should have used those moments as a way to prove that point). OBJECTION! 2. Phoenix was far from concealing evidence of the receipt. He touched Mia's body to see if she was really dead and was unable to call the police (which they came anyways) as the phone was previously trampled with. He did not take the note for himself and Detective Gumshoe even arrested Maya first place because of that note itself. When you pointed that out in the video, you even put the footage of Gumshoe talking about the note and arresting Maya on the spot! There is also a case in Justice for All where Phoenix's client was clearly guilty (even to Phoenix's knowledge) and he chose not to conceal evidence regarding that after Maya was saved from De Killer; he would rather lose the trial but not accuse an innocent person instead. TAKE THAT! 3. You should play the other games too (I mentioned Justice for All previously and there are many more). Phoenix has been disbarred as he unknowingly presented forged evidence and he received punishment for it (bear in mind that he was tricked as well). Also, he was almost excluded from trial (contempt of court) and Maya was punished for it when she caused an uproar a second time. So no, whatever he did wrong in the series, the game acknowledges it. There are some facts about the legal court system that you pointed out that are also slightly incorrect. An example is a "surprise witness". Some court trial do allow their existence but the other party (defense or prosecutor) are allowed to have more time to prepare themselves. (However this is only a minor issue, I just felt like pointing it out.) So, my verdict is that Phoenix Wright is Not Guilty. Thank you.
@elicokelet9113
@elicokelet9113 4 жыл бұрын
Hardcore, m8.
@amiakeli2682
@amiakeli2682 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you're a lawyer or not, but this comm is underrated..
@Pari-eu4th
@Pari-eu4th 4 жыл бұрын
@@amiakeli2682 agreed, this theory has a bunch of holes
@AgentAli9272
@AgentAli9272 4 жыл бұрын
Phoenix Wright is one of the best games, I refuse to believe Nick is guilty
@pokemaniacjerry2422
@pokemaniacjerry2422 4 жыл бұрын
@Alpha The Ultimate Werewolf OBJECTION! Although this person seems to be a fan of the games, from my read through of there comment, only presents the facts!
@ValiantAtlas
@ValiantAtlas 3 жыл бұрын
"It's time for the defense to go on defense." (looks at the amount of times Phoenix defends himself in the games)
@notme8232
@notme8232 2 жыл бұрын
@@retraktable7186 in the FIRST GAME, there are quite a few I haven't played yet
@Mythitie
@Mythitie Жыл бұрын
Matpat: says that you can’t just bring out something suddenly in court and phoenix is doing it. Edgeworth: *OUTDATED AUTOPSY REPORT*
@LordRobaZe
@LordRobaZe 5 жыл бұрын
I like how you talk about phoenix hiding the note with mayas name on it and in the background you show footage of gumshoe the police detective literally commenting on the note.
@tomsky4751
@tomsky4751 5 жыл бұрын
Robatic oof 100
@LeafHasADHD
@LeafHasADHD 4 жыл бұрын
Yah he hasn't withheld the evidence at all!
@OGRsonic
@OGRsonic 4 жыл бұрын
Also if you try to calle the police on the game it saya that someone has cuy the phone cables
@shadowlujiaxrenewed
@shadowlujiaxrenewed 4 жыл бұрын
And at that moment he knew *He Fu**ed up*
@nikel-
@nikel- 4 жыл бұрын
It was mentioned to not tampering with the scene, even slightest movement Last time my friends put down their classmate's body from suicide, the local police scolded them
@audreydyer714
@audreydyer714 5 жыл бұрын
*Video:* Made in 2016 *KZfaq:* Recommending it in 2019
@thelivingliver6715
@thelivingliver6715 5 жыл бұрын
Rilaxation i think it recomended it now cuz (besides youtube recommendations being broken) an updated graphics version of the game was released recently, rising its popularity in the states.
@audreydyer714
@audreydyer714 5 жыл бұрын
@@thelivingliver6715 oof
@thelivingliver6715
@thelivingliver6715 5 жыл бұрын
Rilaxation im gonna be honest with you i was just guessing 😂
@audreydyer714
@audreydyer714 5 жыл бұрын
r/wooosh
@aoinene
@aoinene 5 жыл бұрын
Tbh I only found PWAA in my recommended because Kubz Scouts played it
@scarletnight4554
@scarletnight4554 3 жыл бұрын
Did matpat play this game at all beyond the first case? He talks about phoenix hiding evidence from the police, while the scene were maya is arrested because the police found that evidence is being show in the video. Also a mental note according to matpat if I find a body I shouldn't check if they're still alive, before calling the police
@Mike_Dubo
@Mike_Dubo 3 жыл бұрын
Admit it, Matthew Fittzpatrick. You just wanted to rise the ire of a fandom, because you knew it would get you clicks and view time. Also, insuating that there is a possibility Pheonix would want to get a little "personal" with the dead body of the mentor that SAVED HIS LIFE at one point? Even the Karma's wouldn't stoop to such mudslinging.
@SA-vl9dr
@SA-vl9dr 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah , he played only the first game so he doesn't know about mia defending wright
@Zoe-hb2oj
@Zoe-hb2oj 2 жыл бұрын
Nick literally said that he touched her shoulder.
@Wingsaber
@Wingsaber 2 ай бұрын
​@@SA-vl9drand arguably not even the entire first game, since the 5th case literally shows you the rules of evidence law in this universe
@salad9166
@salad9166 7 жыл бұрын
*OBJECTION!* Your honor this is irrelevant to the case!
@TheCreeperGuy777
@TheCreeperGuy777 7 жыл бұрын
OBJECTION! You're irrelevant!
@shikitohnoreal7199
@shikitohnoreal7199 7 жыл бұрын
Tay From The Kubz Scouts Im liking this comment just because of the name
@NycmanTheNicestOfMen
@NycmanTheNicestOfMen 7 жыл бұрын
Trinitysora 7 you know him
@shikitohnoreal7199
@shikitohnoreal7199 7 жыл бұрын
Abid Ahmad Yup!
@NycmanTheNicestOfMen
@NycmanTheNicestOfMen 7 жыл бұрын
Trinitysora 7 congratz m8 you are the 2nd one who knows that channel
@Mestoyo
@Mestoyo 4 жыл бұрын
Mat : It's in a alternate universe Also Mat : ACCORDING TO FEDERAL LAW
@aceattorney7783
@aceattorney7783 4 жыл бұрын
I thought to it at this point that mat lost idea for content at that time of year
@ceciliac5757
@ceciliac5757 3 жыл бұрын
ace attorney: *is based on the japanese legal system* mat: ACCORDING TO FEDERAL LAW
@cresoma
@cresoma 3 жыл бұрын
Ace Attorney: *clearly has its own alternate rules, and are mentioned in RFtA* MatPat: ok so anyways, america
@azuredraftman
@azuredraftman 3 жыл бұрын
But in Japanifornia the US federal law is unvalid
@minignoux4566
@minignoux4566 2 жыл бұрын
He litteraly said that ace attorney had other laws IN THE VIDEO But anyways America And eat your hamburgers Appolo
@tegtronixtmcertifieddealer6446
@tegtronixtmcertifieddealer6446 3 жыл бұрын
What a way to tell us you've never played ace attorney without telling us you've never played ace attorney
@legendarywiimaster
@legendarywiimaster 10 ай бұрын
Imagine calling a guy a criminal in a game where we’ve got a prosecutor whipping the judge and a guy that throws coffee
@aidenlalic5086
@aidenlalic5086 5 ай бұрын
@@legendarywiimasterI mean he did get disbarred for forging or tampering evidence in Apollo Justice
@crypt5129
@crypt5129 Ай бұрын
​@@aidenlalic5086And then it was proven that he didn't do it
@itsyaboitavino3273
@itsyaboitavino3273 2 жыл бұрын
9:09 “wiretaps are illegal unless ordered by court” did… did he miss that entire part of that case?
@Xenomata
@Xenomata 8 жыл бұрын
Thing is, the Prosecutors of the Ace Attorney series are notorious for leaving out multiple details in their crimes that Mr. Wright himself (or Apollo) has to present instead. In fact, some prosecutors have even told witnesses they call to the stand to not state specific evidence that would otherwise point to someone else being the killer (because it is always a murder). If anything, Phoenix Wright and Apollo Justice are just doing what all other lawyers are doing, which would point to such practices actually being okay in any case, murder or not.
@ketchupacket
@ketchupacket 8 жыл бұрын
And he only used one game as his source
@eliteethereal0909
@eliteethereal0909 8 жыл бұрын
Manfred Von Karma did the same in Turnabout Goodbyes telling Lotta to hide the enlarged photo from the court.
@cardboardluigi6957
@cardboardluigi6957 8 жыл бұрын
He described an average Ace Attorney prosecutor almost perfectly. The only problem was he was trying to describe Phoenix Wright.
@JohnnyTeststar
@JohnnyTeststar 8 жыл бұрын
Just saying, not all crimes are murder in the games. there 1 (and sort of a half) theft cases.
@lisamasouras5031
@lisamasouras5031 8 жыл бұрын
Apollo Justice Dosen't Really Count, It Sucks, That's Why
@josieseal6066
@josieseal6066 5 жыл бұрын
OBJECTION! Point 1: The wiretap This video claims that Phoenix stole the wiretap that was in April May's hotel room, but that is not the case. If you look carefully, the wiretap is "added to the court record". If he had physically taken the evidence with him, it would say something like "slipped into pocket", words that are used later on in the series. What he likely did instead what take note of the existence of the wiretap and take a photo of it to be able to prove it later. Point 2: the receipt This video also claims that Phoenix nonchalantly collected evidence after Mia Fey's murder in the second case instead of calling the police, but that claim is bogus when you look at the sequence of events at that part of the game. This is what happened: Phoenix, being the second person to arrive at the scene, finds his mentor dead and her sister, Maya, in tears. She passes out and Phoenix places her in a sofa in the next room. He then does the sensible thing and checks if Mia is dead. For all he knew, she could have been unconscious. Her body goes cold after he puts his hand on her shoulder, so he concludes that she is, in fact, dead. He then looks at the scene, taking note of the Thinker, the broken glass light stand and the receipt with the word "Maya" on in blood. (The phrase "added to court record" is used.) He then tries to call the police but the phone in the office was tampered with, so he is unable to. He then finds Maya awake and, after learning of her name, tells her about the note. The police arrive at the scene. Detective Gumshoe finds the note next to the body and arrests Maya after also learning about her name and concluding that Mia wrote her killer's name on the receipt. When did Phoenix conceal any evidence here? He didn't! If he did, Detective Gumshoe wouldn't have found the note in the first place, and thus wouldn't have suspected Maya when he did. Plus, the evidence that Phoenix found was still there for the police to find later, which is how both Detective Gumshoe and Prosecutor Edgeworth knew about it in the trial. Therefore Phoenix is NOT a criminal!
@Caseph_Sergio
@Caseph_Sergio 5 жыл бұрын
One thing too you can give evidence as long as its revelant to the case
@ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs
@ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs 5 жыл бұрын
OBJECTION!! POINT 1 : The problem in this one is not how he slip the evidence, but how he obtain that evidence. Both in US and Japan, you're not allowed to searching someone house or possession without warrant. The defendant can sue you back, even the police. POINT 2 : No objection, sir. He isn't hiding the evidence. The police even ask Phoenix about that evidence. I'm done, Your Honor.
@commander1488
@commander1488 5 жыл бұрын
Hold it! Sadly... In anime, Phoenix Did take the wire tap... The only logical thing I can come up with this is lawyers can act as inspector in their world... But about the receipt...I agree with the theory that Phoenix didn't conceal the evidence..
@ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs
@ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs 5 жыл бұрын
@@commander1488 Even if you're police, you can't conducting a search in defendant property without warrant from the court. Both in Japan and US. You can be sued back to jail by defendant. Fact.
@commander1488
@commander1488 5 жыл бұрын
@@ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs is this about the wire-tap.... Hmm actually you're "wright" P.s did you get the pun?
@santiagos6881
@santiagos6881 3 жыл бұрын
I love how game theory forgot to say that the prosecutors do everything that Phoenix does times 10
@Callistosdotcom
@Callistosdotcom 3 жыл бұрын
"The game that no one's ever played" Me staring at the AA game my friend loaned me which I finished 2 days ago "guess I'm no one"
@kiwinatorwaffles
@kiwinatorwaffles 5 жыл бұрын
matpat is making a theory about a fictional japanese game where everyone has puns for names and i also love how the comment section is just everyone defending nick
@Mia-vw5zt
@Mia-vw5zt 4 жыл бұрын
kw1206 true😂 bc nick is the best👍🏻
@hunter11220
@hunter11220 4 жыл бұрын
They're defending him because mat made a video that makes almost constant mistakes to the point that it's laughable if you play the game as far as episode 2. Also he admitted his fault today that helps
@zanerobbins3794
@zanerobbins3794 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Ace Attorney has a few Ace Attorneys of his own
@Mia-vw5zt
@Mia-vw5zt 4 жыл бұрын
Zechariyah III Yep Looks like it
@royalmunchy
@royalmunchy 4 жыл бұрын
That’s not true there’s Maya Fey and Miles Edgeworth an-and Wendy Old...old........ Wendy Oldbag....... yeah no I get what your saying
@apalletspallet8131
@apalletspallet8131 3 жыл бұрын
What could've been done: How the Khur'ain Channeling Technique works, what poison did Dahlia use to make Diego blind/lose pigment, why does Diego's mask glow red in the first place. What we got: Phoenix is kinda sketchy man.
@linusovery-smith4246
@linusovery-smith4246 2 жыл бұрын
This came up when I searched for ace attorney memes, guess that shows how much of a goddamn joke this video is
@annieleonhart365
@annieleonhart365 2 жыл бұрын
You roasted him, my guy 😂👍
@chaoticnote
@chaoticnote 8 жыл бұрын
According to the Evidence Law Book of the game. Rule 1: No evidence shall be shown without the approval of the Police Department. Rule 2: Unregistered evidence presented must be relevant to the case in trial.
@piebsa6597
@piebsa6597 8 жыл бұрын
That's pretty contradicting, but I haven't played the game, so...
@PabloUrayoan
@PabloUrayoan 8 жыл бұрын
The game doesn't follow the US system. It's a hybrid of Japan's system with a few invented things.
@PabloUrayoan
@PabloUrayoan 8 жыл бұрын
Whoops, read your comment wrong. Didn't see the "of the game" part. Sorry. Carry on!
@Busterman64
@Busterman64 8 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised he didn't bring this up since its pretty important in the last case of the first game, but then again...it would have contradicted his entire case against Phoenix in this video.
@piebsa6597
@piebsa6597 8 жыл бұрын
+Busterman64 he did say that in Japan you can do that, and since it's a combination of America/Japan, and accepted that Phoenix isn't doing anything illegal by brining unregistered evidence. He did not say anything about the laws the game itself gives you, though
@goldenredstone04
@goldenredstone04 2 жыл бұрын
I hate how MatPat applies real world rules to fictional games. Minecraft is the best example. He goes from claiming that the Minecraft world isn't flat to claiming that the souls of the dead are trapped in sand.
@godofredobattulayan1601
@godofredobattulayan1601 Жыл бұрын
True he even said that capcom confirmed that ace attorney takes place in los angeles but he even said that he played ace attorney but many times there was hints that ace attorney takes place in a place call "japanlifornia" even capcom confirmed it
@tireddetective3468
@tireddetective3468 3 жыл бұрын
The whole fandom : OBJECTION ! Phoenix is not a criminal ! Game theorist : *chuckles* i’m in danger.
@frontierdustice
@frontierdustice 4 жыл бұрын
Well Matthew immediately forgot the game’s version of “Evidence Law.” In order for a piece of evidence to be presented, it must be relevant to the case. That pill bottle may not have been relevant up until that point.
@cresoma
@cresoma 3 жыл бұрын
Frontier Dustice He most likely just got to 1-4 and called it a day, otherwise the evidence law book would’ve made him realize how wrong he was sooner
@mldag1678
@mldag1678 3 жыл бұрын
it feels like that's almost exactly what's said during the trial lol
@frontierdustice
@frontierdustice 3 жыл бұрын
@@mldag1678 yeah it was important during 1-5
@OliveOil02
@OliveOil02 3 жыл бұрын
@@cresoma OBJECTION... I present to you the ds version in the game only 4 cases are in it.
@cresoma
@cresoma 3 жыл бұрын
@@OliveOil02 TAKE THAT! The international DS version was actually the first version to include 1-5! It was the GBA version that only had 4 cases!
@Mm40545
@Mm40545 8 жыл бұрын
Most of the prosecutors do all these illegal things throughout the series, especially Von Karma, who MatPat should've known about, so it's stupid to say the "main villain of the game is Phoenix Wright" when 1. Others are breaking the law in the same/worse ways than Phoenix 2. Phoenix only cares about justice, he's trying his best to make everything fair, so you can't call him the bad guy for doing the right thing.
@TheGerkuman
@TheGerkuman 8 жыл бұрын
Main Villain no... but Phoenix is kinda sketchy. That was the reason why they made him how he was in Apollo Justice, but many fans thought that Phoenix wouldn't go that far.
@koutsioj4762
@koutsioj4762 8 жыл бұрын
yeah,I was about to comment something like that and also I think it's pretty obvious that this game takes place in an alternative universe where the court rules are completely different but it'd be a good theory if it happened in our universe...except that then everybody in the series would be a criminal...
@SamuraiHunter
@SamuraiHunter 8 жыл бұрын
I think the main problem with this theory is that he says that phoenix took the evidence in the second case...which is untrue as gumshoe goes into the office a second later and sees the letter without phoenix showing it to him...anyway my point is...this theory didn't really say anything...It was very obvious what he is going to say.
@sheenaorten7441
@sheenaorten7441 8 жыл бұрын
you do make a point that there are some villains in the game that have done acts that are as bad if not worse. But two wrongs don't make a right. Phoenix, who had become a lawyer and therefor knows the way the law works, should not be doing shady acts or such to help win his cases. You could say he's no better than the prosecution where he is constantly accusing them of doing shady acts. For someone who cares about justice, you have to admit that if he wants it and innocence of his clients to be legit, he's got to play by the rules instead of playing to criminals and prosecutions level. Mat does make a good point. I forgot that by examining the body and investigating a murder without permission from the police would lead to tampering with both crime scene and evidence. Still love the series, love the fact that we learn different perspectives, still think iris and phoenix should be a couple but at the same time yeah, Phoenix isn't as amazing as people proclaim him to be
@YayaFeiLong
@YayaFeiLong 8 жыл бұрын
Any evidence that's collected through illegal means (such as secretly bugging a personal mobile device) can't be used in court. I'd say Phoenix is more of a Robin Hood kind of guy: he does stuff for good, but his methods are a bit shady.
@TheGovernor1899
@TheGovernor1899 3 жыл бұрын
MatPat: Phoenix Surprises everybody with evidence that was unknown to the court at the time! When evidence is added, it says this! *Added to the court record*
@adriKat653
@adriKat653 3 жыл бұрын
Ace Attorney fans after seeing this video: "I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that"
@scarletnight4554
@scarletnight4554 3 жыл бұрын
Well considering how half assed this is...
@dbclass4075
@dbclass4075 Жыл бұрын
More like present counterargument, Ace Attorney-style.
@FavChanger
@FavChanger 8 жыл бұрын
I understand why you made this video. You played Phoenix Wright, it's amazing, you couldn't wait to make a theory on it. Unfortunately, because you haven't played the rest of the games, you only had one game to get info from and it suffered as a result. Phoenix being a criminal is nothing new. Play Apollo Justice and you'll see what I mean. Phoenix isn't even the worst offender of this type. Look at the prosecution, Von Karma and Edgeworth both commit similar crimes in the same game. But even then, it makes sense why he could get away with this stuff. The Ace Attorney universe uses the 3 Day Trial method, and so the defence and prosecution are logically encouraged to get as much information as possible as quickly as possible. I love that you've played Ace Attorney. I hope that you find the time to play the rest of them and I can't wait until your next theory after you've played all of them.
@FavChanger
@FavChanger 8 жыл бұрын
Aside from all that, this theory wasn't entirely useless. You've used this opportunity to teach us about the differences in law between the real word and the romanticised version of law in the Ace Attorney series.
@ferdousalrafi6126
@ferdousalrafi6126 8 жыл бұрын
+FavChanger I just wished he did just that. But he had the stupid part about Pheonix is a criminal. btw, he's a criminal in the 4th game, not in the original trilogy.
@maroon-azure
@maroon-azure 8 жыл бұрын
He also would've known about the Evidence Law.
@kirukiru5924
@kirukiru5924 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah. only playing the first game isnt a solid base for a theory. he would have to play the whole trilogy and Apollo. and maybe the one that afds Athena to base any theories.
@888SpinR
@888SpinR 8 жыл бұрын
He hasn't finished the rest of the game, let alone games. You can't finish the first game without learning about Evidence Law, and you can't make a video about Ace Attorney and law without that ever crossing your mind. Unless he's following the Von Karma doctrine of evidence- if it doesn't help you, don't present it.
@randyrodriguez2014
@randyrodriguez2014 8 жыл бұрын
This makes me want to throw some coffee
@greedow
@greedow 8 жыл бұрын
the #102 mix? I heard it's the best one
@foleyproductioninc
@foleyproductioninc 8 жыл бұрын
No! He can't waste *THAT*! If you're going to throw coffee, it needs to be a blend you *don't* like!
@greedow
@greedow 8 жыл бұрын
Max Buffkin OMG! What was I thinking? you're right. let's throw blend #666 then XD
@foleyproductioninc
@foleyproductioninc 8 жыл бұрын
+ Qualquer gamer That's better! Nothing better for this 'theory'! XD
@jonzycloux9105
@jonzycloux9105 8 жыл бұрын
Kingdom hearts number one :)
@travellingcircus7658
@travellingcircus7658 2 жыл бұрын
10:55 “There is no evidence that Phoenix Wright tells the police about this evidence” _shows clip of gumshoe talking about said evidence_
@ziggystardust7001
@ziggystardust7001 3 жыл бұрын
MatPat: Phoenix Wright is the one who gets away with everything unethical in attorney business! Edgeworth who constantly has the latest reports and intentionally never tells anyone: *phew* The Von Karmas who not only forge evidence, but physically harm people: *phew* Godot who throws hot cups of coffee at people and has murdered people: *phew* Kristoph: Who has manipulated the entire courtroom and all of law just so he doesn’t ruin his perfect record: *phew*
@pickle_foot929
@pickle_foot929 4 жыл бұрын
"No ones ever played" I feel attacked
@DeletedTroll
@DeletedTroll 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if the game was famous 4 years ago correct me if I am wrong since I never played this game. Just seeing the comments full mad at PatMat for fun
@deadassbird3763
@deadassbird3763 3 жыл бұрын
the fact that people use ace attorney quotes and dont know where they come from
@pickle_foot929
@pickle_foot929 3 жыл бұрын
@@deadassbird3763 yeah thats really annoying
@OliveOil02
@OliveOil02 3 жыл бұрын
@@deadassbird3763 yeah like "your not a clown your the entire circus"
@fink3245
@fink3245 3 жыл бұрын
HOLD IT ditto
@tomsky4751
@tomsky4751 5 жыл бұрын
“Grabs whip and starts whipping matpat” Me: STOP! BEING! SUCH! A! FOOLISH! FOOL!
@imaonion1217
@imaonion1217 4 жыл бұрын
FBI OPEN UP
@raducristianudrea5017
@raducristianudrea5017 4 жыл бұрын
a folish man dreaming of foolish dreameas about a foolish theory
@julianeacedo2808
@julianeacedo2808 4 жыл бұрын
@@raducristianudrea5017 your talking about matpat?yes or no?
@rockbeauty3439
@rockbeauty3439 4 жыл бұрын
von KARMA!
@GeorgeDCowley
@GeorgeDCowley 4 жыл бұрын
Only fools say it twice.
@SnowBoy1008
@SnowBoy1008 2 жыл бұрын
Matpat just argued to a fandom who plays a game about arguing regularly
@whateverthisis389
@whateverthisis389 3 жыл бұрын
Oh there's a simple explanation actually: *anime logic* Cause literally every single one of Phoenix's rivals do the same
@VoidWilbyte
@VoidWilbyte 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@chionophbia
@chionophbia 5 жыл бұрын
"Nobody has played the game" Kubz Scouts
@artsnimation4020
@artsnimation4020 5 жыл бұрын
Lance The Android KittenTM & and me
@616png
@616png 5 жыл бұрын
*Objection!!!* I died so I couldnt play it (jk)
@juhosaarenpaa7727
@juhosaarenpaa7727 5 жыл бұрын
Well, MATPAT definitely hasn't. LOL
@leoisdumb3508
@leoisdumb3508 5 жыл бұрын
_this video is 3 years old, didnt he just start playing recently?_
@manspider86
@manspider86 5 жыл бұрын
this video was uploaded in 2016 that’s way before Jay started playing this game
@spookyhogan
@spookyhogan 5 жыл бұрын
Ja-merica: "The Land of the Rising Gun"
@applesaucestudios7014
@applesaucestudios7014 4 жыл бұрын
Spooky Hogan lol
@saucyboy3013
@saucyboy3013 4 жыл бұрын
Yus
@silverdandylmao
@silverdandylmao 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao that's a good one
@michaelfixedsys7463
@michaelfixedsys7463 4 жыл бұрын
and gun swords
@skiglepigle9942
@skiglepigle9942 4 жыл бұрын
The hetalia fandom is just screaming
@zavalanovakidue
@zavalanovakidue 2 жыл бұрын
Mat: It's illegal in US! Phoenix Wright, being a japanese game: Uh, okay, whatever
@anothertvguy
@anothertvguy 4 ай бұрын
This video was generously paid for by BLUECORP
@alexeyshcherbakov5371
@alexeyshcherbakov5371 3 жыл бұрын
"The game that no one ever played", including MatPat
@steelpump100
@steelpump100 3 жыл бұрын
He did play you amnesiac. The game, not series, he didn't play the entire series, he played the original ace attorney.
@alexeyshcherbakov5371
@alexeyshcherbakov5371 3 жыл бұрын
K
@galinabojarova3237
@galinabojarova3237 3 жыл бұрын
@@steelpump100 Not enough. All the evidence that contradicts him is further down the series, not in a single game. Not to mention he's being the amnesiac in this video.
@HyLion
@HyLion 3 жыл бұрын
@@steelpump100 Which is funny considering it looked like he only picked stuff from the first two cases, completely disregarding the 5th case where evidence law in the Ace Attorney universe is explained
@MartaTarasiuk
@MartaTarasiuk 3 жыл бұрын
@@steelpump100 Then why doesn't he know that Phoenix didn't take nor hide the note with Maya's name? It's a pretty big part of the story.
@mrpenguin4350
@mrpenguin4350 4 жыл бұрын
Mat pat: this is a good theory Comment section: are you sureeeee
@crypt5129
@crypt5129 3 жыл бұрын
That’s how it usually is, although it’s usually just sane human beings rather than the entire comment section
@crypt5129
@crypt5129 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t remember commenting that but I still agree with what it 100%.
@wontap1667
@wontap1667 2 жыл бұрын
The best thing is by his logic every single other prosecutor and attorney is Guilty of these crimes.
@mrloleno
@mrloleno 3 жыл бұрын
1:57 dont forget about air bending skills
@SylentVoidkeeper
@SylentVoidkeeper 7 жыл бұрын
You think that if you were to make such a bold statement, like "Phoenix is a Criminal" than you would at least play the other two games in the trilogy....or just the 5th case in the first game....
@BillytheCorgi
@BillytheCorgi 7 жыл бұрын
Cellisperfect Or at the very least play the second case, seeing as how the prosecution uses the evidence that he claims phoenix hid.
@gibuswagen7729
@gibuswagen7729 7 жыл бұрын
do you know the difference between than and then?
@SylentVoidkeeper
@SylentVoidkeeper 7 жыл бұрын
Ah, thanks for correcting me. My point still stands, regardless of the typo. Most people I've talked to say this is one of his worst theories. And for good reason
@cutekiller-qu8pq
@cutekiller-qu8pq 7 жыл бұрын
Cellisperfect Objecten!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@shabader7400
@shabader7400 7 жыл бұрын
Guys Phoenix IS A CRIMINAL submitting false evidence TWICE (one on accident, other one he gave to his daughter to give to apollo)
@metalex64
@metalex64 8 жыл бұрын
6:54 Objection, pal! Must I remind you that the game was created in Japan and that the creators made the game's events happen in Japan? The translators just changed the japanese references to US references. TAKE THAT! (I always wanted to say this, pal!)
@metalex64
@metalex64 8 жыл бұрын
... I can see so much contradictions in this video, have you even played the game, pal?
@ImmaLittlePip
@ImmaLittlePip 8 жыл бұрын
Hell the French version say it takes place in Paris so yeah I guess we go with it takes place in japan
@metalex64
@metalex64 8 жыл бұрын
ImmaLittlePip Really pal? I didn't know that. Well, the more you know, I guess.
@ImmaLittlePip
@ImmaLittlePip 8 жыл бұрын
+Dick Gumshoe Eeyup so the whole "American Japan" thing doesn't really hold enough water when you have to ignore other localizations
@metalex64
@metalex64 8 жыл бұрын
ImmaLittlePip Yep, you're right, pal!
@uitraupstnctu8937
@uitraupstnctu8937 3 жыл бұрын
4:32 (Meanwhile Edgeworth holds back critical evidence in the form of a probably fake updated autopsy report)
@zamzamciise6704
@zamzamciise6704 Жыл бұрын
4:04 but in episode 2, edgeworth presented the updated autopsy report. Phoenix did the same by presenting the sleeping pills. What go’s around comes around.
@sylve_r2810
@sylve_r2810 Жыл бұрын
if the judge sees nothing wrong its likely that this alternate universe doesnt have this discovery thing
@averagewillpower754
@averagewillpower754 8 жыл бұрын
Sherlock Holmes is also a criminal by that logic. I really like Game Theory but this one is the weakest one yet.
@josephdandrea9465
@josephdandrea9465 8 жыл бұрын
Well at least he didn't say that Phoenix Wright was Lucus from Mother 3 right?
@mustafabaksh893
@mustafabaksh893 8 жыл бұрын
Doesn't he call himself a "Highly funcctioning Sociopath" tho?
@rachelwritesstuff8518
@rachelwritesstuff8518 8 жыл бұрын
I mean, he's technically right about him doing illegal things; it just really doesn't matter, because its a game.
@tochaz4684
@tochaz4684 8 жыл бұрын
Dude, heck no, the Sans is Ness one is by far the worst
@averagewillpower754
@averagewillpower754 8 жыл бұрын
Tochaz I really liked that episode. It was well thought out.
@mariamejia4495
@mariamejia4495 4 жыл бұрын
12:06 “Mr. Wrights wrongdoing would get his lawyer license revoked” *sweats profusely*
@chumtoad14
@chumtoad14 4 жыл бұрын
*Sweats in apollo justice*
@minthemadnezz200
@minthemadnezz200 4 жыл бұрын
*sweats in hobo*
@rayadoodle
@rayadoodle 3 жыл бұрын
Cries in Apollo Justice case 4
@hatsuneminion8087
@hatsuneminion8087 3 жыл бұрын
**stabs kristoph casually.**
@michelle8575
@michelle8575 3 жыл бұрын
Wat
@artexjay
@artexjay 9 ай бұрын
Matpat got the acts of what Pheonix did completely wrong in turnabout sisters. Matpat pretends that Pheonix hides or even takes evidence like the giant monkey head from the statue that got toppled.
@KyrieFortune
@KyrieFortune 2 жыл бұрын
"Phoenix is a criminal because he brings up unregistered evidence" Three words: *updated autopsy report*
@sigh824
@sigh824 8 жыл бұрын
OBJECTION! He didn't tamper with that evidence or hide the receipt, that's why Maya got arrested in the first place.
@sigh824
@sigh824 8 жыл бұрын
Not only that but the discovery clause has been ignored on both sides, that's why Edgeworth was so formidable. That's not as relevant but it bugged me.
@HelplessFangirl
@HelplessFangirl 8 жыл бұрын
Literally the discovery clause has no existence in any games
@samusaran11
@samusaran11 8 жыл бұрын
That is also why Manfred Von Karma won alot of cases.
@jrg2866
@jrg2866 8 жыл бұрын
Touching/moving the evidence is technically tampering
@AmeshaSpentaArmaiti
@AmeshaSpentaArmaiti 8 жыл бұрын
AND edgeworth has been (and has been accused of) using forged evidence.
@omegasnake18
@omegasnake18 8 жыл бұрын
Ok Matpat, I think this needs to be siad because you missed a pretty crucial detail. yes, tampering or hiding evidence is illeagal and carries jail time...but he never tampered with the evidence or hid anything in that case! first of all, the only thing he truly touched was Mia's body, more specifically, just her shoulder. and since he was taken into questioning and was questioned all night, he obviously admitted that he touched her body, and maybe the phone when he tried to use it to call the police. but most importantly, he never took that reciept with Maya's name written in blood. as you can see after he adds the reciept to his court record, the note is STILL there, and Gumshoe finds it really easily next to Mia's body, hence why he arrests Maya. I don't know how you missed it, but just keep this in mind, that when Phoenix adds something to his court records, unless stated otherwise, he only makes a note of it in his court record so he won't forget and can ask someone about it later. so in conclusion, Phoenix didn't break any laws in that part.
@espurrseyes42
@espurrseyes42 8 жыл бұрын
Except in AJ: AA, but that's a different game with a different story (and assuming you're familiar with it, you already know how that went).
@omegasnake18
@omegasnake18 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I own all the games. To be fair though, he didn't know it was forged and was set up for a fall
@holaacu8814
@holaacu8814 8 жыл бұрын
Also it would be a crime to not touch her, as he touched her to see if she was alive and in need of an ambulance, which is a citizen's obligation to do if she is alive but can not be left alone (at least in my country)
@omegasnake18
@omegasnake18 8 жыл бұрын
Holaacu oh wow, that is very true. thanks for sharing. :)
@omegasnake18
@omegasnake18 8 жыл бұрын
I think your reply to me got marked as Spam....the one about you asking for a strategy from Xenoblade Chronicles X...I hope mat pat didn't do that himself... anyway, sorry dude, but I don't have either of the games.
@animeizsyellenide
@animeizsyellenide 3 жыл бұрын
"the game no one ever plays" AA Fans: "a-"
@qoben38
@qoben38 Жыл бұрын
ace attorney: includes whipping the judge, throwing coffee at the other side, bringing weapons to the courtroom, everybody shouting... matpat: phoenix is a criminal
@TheBeaster19
@TheBeaster19 8 жыл бұрын
you just contradicted yourself with the gameplay. at 10:53 you say "there is no indication that that Phoenix tells the police about this evidence", but at 11:01 you can clearly see gumshoe acknowledge the evidence that Phoenix collected, thus he did tell the police.
@ploucleplouc542
@ploucleplouc542 8 жыл бұрын
Yes!!
@ploucleplouc542
@ploucleplouc542 8 жыл бұрын
Finally someone clever, I was wondering if I were the only one
@TheBeaster19
@TheBeaster19 8 жыл бұрын
Plouc Leplouc don't worry, you're not. a lot of the game theory's lately have been a bit iffy. I hope his theories improve.
@ploucleplouc542
@ploucleplouc542 8 жыл бұрын
So this whole video doesn't make sense, I am so disappointed by Matpat. He is not the same anymore
@TheBeaster19
@TheBeaster19 8 жыл бұрын
Plouc Leplouc I agree. He contradicts himself several times in this video, but other commenters pointed those ones out but I didn't see anyone point this out so I posted it myself.
@xAreuto
@xAreuto 7 жыл бұрын
You should've played apollo justice and dual destinies. You're arguments about the legal system are immediately answered. Also case 5 in the first game should've made you know that someone can take evidence out of the crime scene and be submit it into the court as that's what literally happened.
@xAreuto
@xAreuto 7 жыл бұрын
You're theory on ace attorney is full of holes.
@dethtreeorigin
@dethtreeorigin 7 жыл бұрын
Aren't most of his theories full of holes?
@darkdjinniumbrage7798
@darkdjinniumbrage7798 6 жыл бұрын
Might as well call Mat Pat Harry Butz
@PeterLiu-wl2ox
@PeterLiu-wl2ox 6 жыл бұрын
Bullet said the guy named bullet, lol.
@yesitsmeyeees
@yesitsmeyeees Жыл бұрын
Matpat: Phoenix is a lawbreaking, evil lawyer! Kristopher: *Sips Attroquine*
@justinjhelolegaspi5320
@justinjhelolegaspi5320 3 жыл бұрын
Game theorist: Edgeworth was surprise because he never knew about the pill bottles* Also Edgeworth himself: Your autopsy report is oUTDatEd
@Mask0fFate
@Mask0fFate 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, Phoenix didn't hide the receipt with Maya's name on it. The police actually DID find it at the crime scene. That's why Maya was arrested in Case 2. Phoenix didn't actually hide the note. He just made a note of it for future use.
@ScootsNBhistorybehindthegaming
@ScootsNBhistorybehindthegaming 7 жыл бұрын
Yep. This theory is severally flawed... Sad thing is that he didn't even play the future games lol He didn't even pay attention the Case 5. Which states that it doesn't follow the normal laws that we do in reality lol
@mads_in_zero
@mads_in_zero 7 жыл бұрын
In fact, the first thing the prosecution brings up is that receipt, during the first day of court. Furthermore, during the very testimony where it is brought up, Edgeworth pulls his little trick of revealing the updated autopsy report. Phoenix was not informed about this ahead of time, so if anyone is withholding information, it's Edgeworth, not Phoenix!
@ScootsNBhistorybehindthegaming
@ScootsNBhistorybehindthegaming 7 жыл бұрын
+Sirmat Yep. It's a bit ironic that he eventually got the rank as a Cheif prosecutor too...Even if Phoenix and him eventually became friends/Friendly rivals.
@dracos0024
@dracos0024 7 жыл бұрын
Sirmat Then again, that's something we already knew. I mean, withholding evidence and witness testimony is why people called him the demon prosecutor to begin with.
@cinna_mochi
@cinna_mochi 7 жыл бұрын
Samuel Johnson Adding onto that, I don't think Phoenix even knew it was a receipt at first until the final day of the trial. Maya called to Mia and Mia told Wright to double check the paper when turned out to be a receipt for a glass stand. Also the glass shards were okay that Phoenix kept in mind (I am pretty sure he didn't keep that physically.) because of his absent knowledge on the "note" being a receipt. And if I am correct, Detective Gumshoe and the Police didn't see the glass shards as an important piece of evidence. "They may have just been in a struggle." As they say. I hope this adds on to your claim ^^
@domslitnigga
@domslitnigga 4 жыл бұрын
I love how the comments its just debunking matt's theory 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@fahadsaad750
@fahadsaad750 4 жыл бұрын
IKR
@cresoma
@cresoma 3 жыл бұрын
It’s as bad of a theory as that persona 4 one lmfao
@oliverbowen2276
@oliverbowen2276 3 жыл бұрын
Aww I liked this game
@cresoma
@cresoma 3 жыл бұрын
@@oliverbowen2276 Ace Attorney is a great game, we’re just insulting the theory MatPat made on it
@atrueultrakillianpatriot
@atrueultrakillianpatriot 3 жыл бұрын
Helling f**ker
@henriquealves3086
@henriquealves3086 3 жыл бұрын
Game Theorist: (saying 92378 rules that Phoenix broke during cases and deserves prison) Me: Chill bro, its just an game it wasnt made to be Attorney Simulator
@leslietan4977
@leslietan4977 3 жыл бұрын
11:02 Phoenix just showed it to Dectective Gumshoe
@likeablekiwi6265
@likeablekiwi6265 3 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding me! Everytime he gets evidence it says added to court record!
@kv-2537
@kv-2537 2 жыл бұрын
That is true
@SealandRoyal
@SealandRoyal 8 жыл бұрын
Mat Pat don't joke about shipping america and japan. Hetalia fans actually do it.
@emily3615
@emily3615 8 жыл бұрын
XD
@duntemdraws310
@duntemdraws310 8 жыл бұрын
I just commented about that xD
@insertmeme6154
@insertmeme6154 8 жыл бұрын
i relate to this so much but italia x germany is bae
@yaoilovingbastard3567
@yaoilovingbastard3567 8 жыл бұрын
+RougeNightmare Indeed 👌
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@urarakaochako6230 8 жыл бұрын
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