Game Theory: Why Everyone HATES YouTube Shorts… And You Should Too!

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What do you think about KZfaq Shorts? Since their release, they've seemingly been one of the most polarizing new features ever launched on the platform. What seems like fun little short-form videos may actually have MUCH larger ramifications across the platform and the creator economy as a whole. So put those swiping fingers away and let's chat friends.
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@smartereveryday 4 ай бұрын

Co-signed. One additional thought: KZfaq is not discussing the overall impacts of shorts on society in general.

@N.Nocturne 4 ай бұрын

Heya Destin

@NaiFarang 4 ай бұрын

11.4M subs DANG

@hariskhan01 4 ай бұрын

I am kinda glad I used to watch this instead of shorts when I was little.

@faxfromfred 4 ай бұрын

Sup mate!

@Neobjects 4 ай бұрын

LETHAL COMPANY LORE.. please?

@amyrydell2715 4 ай бұрын

It really saddens me how KZfaq is moving away from longer videos. That's what I go to KZfaq for. For the creators for listening to what they say

@nschep 4 ай бұрын

100% I actually use and love Tik Tok, more than I should, and I love KZfaq for the longer videos. I don't want shorts on KZfaq, despite consuming a bunch of that content on other platforms

@JamesTDG 4 ай бұрын

EXACTLY! I want to have a discussion that forces me to use my brain, to actually THINK

@nataliaentalia 4 ай бұрын

It’s so annoying. I go to youtube to watch longer videos and all I get is shorts shoved in my face.

@emewantstoplayXD 4 ай бұрын

Me too! I love KZfaq because I can rewatch my favorite long videos to listen to in the background.

@The_MadDuck 4 ай бұрын

Yeah fr

@gabeburch8234 3 ай бұрын

I like how he foreshadowed his announcement of stepping down and straight up told us he had a "dramatic couch episode penciled in for January"

@ignacyantkiewicz8654 Ай бұрын

Tok tok is for kids.

@Thegamersun. 5 күн бұрын

@@ignacyantkiewicz8654bro your a kid 😂😂

@Swiftie_Does_Craft 3 күн бұрын

@@ignacyantkiewicz8654 what is tok tok?

@soulking45242 2 күн бұрын

@@ignacyantkiewicz8654what's a toktok 💀😭

@nit.nat.kit.kat. 3 ай бұрын

"Now normally, this would be a dramatic MattChat on the couch, but I've already got that one penciled in for January." Hearing that after the whiplash of "Goodbye Internet" two days ago is WILD 😭

@theqbash 3 ай бұрын

Yeah… it is for me too.

@Obese2000kg Ай бұрын

We will miss matpat

@Kaliiixx_ 19 күн бұрын

I GASPED WHEN I REALISED HE MENTIONED IT SO EARLY ON

@Professoridiot 4 ай бұрын

As someone with adhd I have been avoiding KZfaq shorts and tik tok like the plague because I already have a bad attention span and I DO NOT want it to get worse

@captainbluescreen5713 4 ай бұрын

Same here, and I swear it feels like even my attention span is still better than most of my classmates who use tiktok and all that!

@Jimpipecigarbear 4 ай бұрын

As a neurodivergent. Been avoiding ticktock and hate certain shorts because of the sounds some of the videos make. I like picking and choosing over scrolling.

@anonymousking5215 4 ай бұрын

@@Jimpipecigarbearthis. If I’m going to watch a short, I’m not going to the shorts tab. I’m going to pick one from like 8

@NickChad 4 ай бұрын

It's funny because as someone with adhd I've always hated tiktok and shorts because it's impossible to have them as something to listen to in the background when I've got a long drive or want to do some chores. Can't even use mini player on KZfaq shorts like regular KZfaq videos to check other stuff on my phone. I literally don't have the attention span for shorts.

@countryball-enjoyer 4 ай бұрын

I completely oppose short form content like tiktok and KZfaq shorts because of how addictive it is. the worst thing about KZfaq shorts is that I can’t even mute it or delete it.

@RaeganScarlett 4 ай бұрын

KZfaq really needs to make a “Restricted Shorts Mode” setting where you can block shorts from showing up on your Home Screen, remove the shorts tab from the app, and block scrolling if you find a short through search.

@Chris-rg6nm 4 ай бұрын

Theres an extention i use

@SkitzSkitzVids 4 ай бұрын

Settings >General >turn off playback on feeds

@aleksandrakowalczyk6043 4 ай бұрын

How it's called

@lemonlyedits6016 4 ай бұрын

I agree to this SOOO MUCH like I feel as if I don’t get to enjoy all the long form videos anymore. I wish I could have an extension but I’ve always watched on my phone haha so I guess it doesn’t help with shorts

@birdbrainiac 4 ай бұрын

@@Chris-rg6nm tell me more - what's it called?

@chrisalvino812 3 ай бұрын

You totally hit the nail on the head of why I prefer KZfaq to TikTok, even though they're so similar now with shorts. I HATE how passive TikTok is. I like to actively determine what I'm consuming. And I love interacting in the comments with others and really connecting with the creatots. It's been bugging me for awhile why i can't stand TikTok and this is exactly why

@Gavetheduck123 3 ай бұрын

2:21 now I know what this means

@benwatts764 3 ай бұрын

“Normally this would be a dramatic chat on the couch but I’ve already got that pencilled in for January” oh boy did he 😭

@stickshiftman8433 3 ай бұрын

yea sad

@JeffHawthorne 3 ай бұрын

I watched that one first. Before this one.

@henryhutch_07 3 ай бұрын

The most dramatic couch talk ever

@Heartlessdummy 3 ай бұрын

He really meant it

@poniez8348 3 ай бұрын

Don't remind me 😔

@skilfularcher 4 ай бұрын

Realizing that shorts and TikTok’s are passive as opposed to active explain why I feel so disgusted when I watch them for like half an hour cause I’m not doing anything, I hate being passive and stagnant, so this definitely explains it

@theucheao 4 ай бұрын

Same

@prehistoricorchid3455 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, except I can't watch more than 2 shorts cause 1. Not what I came for, 2. It immediately goes to something I don't even care about

@UltraVioletKnight 4 ай бұрын

I would recommend "Hide Shorts for KZfaq", it's a browser extension that will hide all youtube shorts

@orangelightning2352 4 ай бұрын

I only watch 4 shorts that are shown to me because I don't want to keep watching shorts, not what I came for, but the reason why it's 4 is because they're interesting

@MrGamelover23 4 ай бұрын

Don't pretend like you're somehow any less passive or stagnant if you spend 3 hours on KZfaq.

@hntrboi1585 3 ай бұрын

I just realized Matt forshadowed his talk about leaving Game Theory around the beginning, at 0:29 the KZfaq title says “Say goodbye to your favorite KZfaqrs” and he says his couch chat will be later in January.

@Messixftbl19 3 ай бұрын

MatPat told us he was quitting secretly 2:16 😢

@waalex11 4 ай бұрын

I hate them personally for how addictive they can be and be unremovable, but I do like how it helps boost some channels.

@Dont_Read_My_Picture 4 ай бұрын

Don't read my name!..

@gelubra44 4 ай бұрын

In case you want to to get rid of them, you could always get a shorts remover plugin.

@waalex11 4 ай бұрын

@@gelubra44For some reason I assumed that didn't exist and never checked. Thanks!

@bibasik7 4 ай бұрын

On the desktop version of KZfaq, you can hide Shorts for 30 days by clicking the X.

@nofbi8582 4 ай бұрын

@@BangerContent + ur a ni

@Y2lazer 4 ай бұрын

I definitely realized the addictive powers of KZfaq shorts. I wish they would make it a separate app at least to remove the temptation.

@Buckets182 4 ай бұрын

I agree, as someones who's content almost solely relies on shorts a separate app would be great

@em.5941 4 ай бұрын

there is a separate app, called tiktok

@olz33 4 ай бұрын

there HAS to be a setting where you can block them from the home page

@ossian882 4 ай бұрын

@@olz33ReVanced

@luzellemoller6621 4 ай бұрын

@@olz33 yeah i literly cant watch a fun fideo if it isnt FERY fun as in FERY without watching a short mid fideo

@BTS_ot7_Potterhead_ARMY 3 ай бұрын

Who would have guessed his matpat Couch Talk was going to be goodbye internet

@withoutmaster79 3 ай бұрын

😢

@kai_alex Ай бұрын

2:20 the january couch chat destroyed us all

@DannoDraws 4 ай бұрын

That last point you made is right on the money - and adding to your point, many shorts creators feel themselves inferior to long-form youtubers. We feel like we're less worthy of being called a "KZfaqr" because we can't manage to make the switch to long form content, or because we feel like our viewers don't care about us nearly as much. It adds to the burn-out and emotional toll of an isolated job a wholeeee lot. Personally, even though my entire internet presence was built off shorts, I'm really really disheartened by the effect they've have had on youtube as a whole.

@Bombilicious 4 ай бұрын

wsg danno

@DingdongShingydotQuandaledinle 4 ай бұрын

i am taking first so no kid can say it

@ToshibaXD. 4 ай бұрын

DANNO?? what are you doing here 😭

@Bombilicious 4 ай бұрын

@@DingdongShingydotQuandaledinle your 2nd but i see why

@user-hr8yd1ky4x 4 ай бұрын

@@ToshibaXD.He likes game theory

@RoseMimikyu 4 ай бұрын

One thing that has really bothered me about shorts especially when I follow a creator that does exclusive shorts content is finding the shorts you WANT to watch. Unlike long form videos if you go to someone's channel and look through their shorts none of them have the title listed so you just have to pick one based on the one frame of the short you see and hope it's what you want. Makes refinding a short to share with someone a nightmare.

@BetterNevaia 4 ай бұрын

yup or when you see an old short mentionning an update in 2 months so you gotta dig through their shorts to find the update

@faithhellman402 4 ай бұрын

And the fact that you can't even see whether or not you've already watched a short, to help you filter through the content when you're trying to watch a series you stumbled upon, but don't know where the rest of it is.

@Md_Arif2004 4 ай бұрын

@@faithhellman402 the basic solution is to add the red border on watched shorts and hoping that the creator will set a template of what the video it was, also if there was a list button[that shows the shorts as video detailed format] . near the popular botton on short page

@benjones7634 4 ай бұрын

As someone who basically only makes shorts, this is true even for the creators themselves

@InnD135 4 ай бұрын

Definitely a struggle to find previously watched shorts. I will say I've been able to find shorts I've watched in my watch history though.

@dankxp420 3 ай бұрын

"creators always go out of style, burn out, quit..."

@BruoBrno 3 ай бұрын

2:17 I just realized he hinted at his quitting days before.

@Keyga 4 ай бұрын

Another thing I really don’t like about shorts is when I try to search for unspecific videos it shows SO MANY shorts rather than videos

@TeenPerspektiva 4 ай бұрын

Right?! Thats a real problem

@Keyga 4 ай бұрын

@@TeenPerspektiva there needs to be an option to exclude shorts from searches

@Eocarcin 4 ай бұрын

If you never want to see shorts again, get the 'hide youtube shorts' extension on your browser

@FreeStatesofKapuska 4 ай бұрын

@@Keyga But then they wont get money!! Paying? Who, their creators? So that there are more creators, and thus more money? Never heard of that...

@starsiadraws 4 ай бұрын

That and showing "recommended for you". Like I already see these same videos on my home page and side bars, I'm looking for a specific video/type of video. There's a reason I clicked "search" and not "recommended".

@EnerJazzOfficial 4 ай бұрын

the amount of times i’ve felt literally hypnotized by shorts while trying to do something else annoys me to no end and i feel like i need some kind of off option to stop KZfaq shorts or Instagram reels from popping up in my results

@III_three 4 ай бұрын

Well you can easily block shorts on a modded KZfaq app.

@III_three 4 ай бұрын

It's called ReVanced. An open souce frontend to KZfaq.

@rpocc 4 ай бұрын

Oh yes, it must be considered a dangerous mental drug and be supplied with a warning, like cigarettes.

@good4gaby 4 ай бұрын

😢I know

@clowntownyt 3 ай бұрын

Someone commented that going into settings>general>stopping playback should help with them turning on automatically. I did that and while I was in the settings I also turned on a reminder to take breaks. This is also in settings>general. You can make the timer whatever you want. I hope that'll help at least a bit!

@kevinfan6869 2 ай бұрын

The mind-boggling thing I've realized is that I've watched nearly EVERY GAME THEORY video ever made, almost every film but every food and style theory so far. Iove the work Matt and the rest of Theorist, Santi, Steph, Leigh, Amy, Austin, and NEARLY EVERYONE has done for the channel. Identities matter in making sure youtube creators keep their following, otherwise they become short 20-second laughs on social media

@LetoandZuno 3 ай бұрын

2:18 , Matpat loves foreshadowing, even his retirement💀

@SomeThingElseYT 4 ай бұрын

The payout of this new Tiktok like approach has been a concern of mine for a while and a fear that it will become a reason for KZfaq to double down. With how little shorts pay out, creators are forced to spam their channels with as many videos as possible to make any sort of income from it. Since we see a high volume of spammed content, youtube as a whole see’s a higher volume of traffic which allows them to take these new artificially inflated numbers to investors and rake in a higher profit. The problem to me is creators wont see their fair share of this higher profit and in a way rewarding youtube for this bad behavior. Which might be a reason they have been pushing creators so aggressively to take on this new video format (along with competition of course) and what feels like punishing them for not. Just my 2 cents though. Glad you are getting the conversation surrounding shorts started! This video was pretty insightful.

@SomeThingElseYT 4 ай бұрын

I say this as someone who made 3 shorts that raked in 3 million views for a month and was paid only $18 for that work. I also find my channel being hit hard view wise not being recommended as much (despite retention and click through rate being incredibly high) and what feels like punishment from KZfaq for refusing to post anymore shorts due to its low pay and high effort.

@sirbrandalf7813 3 ай бұрын

@@SomeThingElseYT...18? Wow. That's utterly absurd. 3 million is such an unimaginable number when you think about it, and only making 18 dollars out of that is astonishingly unsustainable

@xtremesubber9136 3 ай бұрын

⁠@@SomeThingElseYTyeah, $18 is DEFINITELY not enough for 3 million. Like, I heard KZfaq shorts doesn’t pay that much, but I didn’t realise it was THAT little. Also, I completely agree with you Adam, this ‘shorts’ content concerns me. As a 13-18 year old, I don’t have TikTok. The whole reason I didn’t download it in the first place, is that I didn’t want to go down that endless loop of scrolling, but now that KZfaq shorts is a thing, I’ve become a victim. And I hate it.

@xninja2369 3 ай бұрын

@@xtremesubber9136Can Use ReVanced and disable short feed , on homepage , recommendations etc .

@ImSonnyReal 3 ай бұрын

oh my god its SomethingElseYT

@marleypurdue4923 4 ай бұрын

The biggest problem with yt shorts is that they are EXTREMELY popular with generation alpha. This is not only bad for that generations attention span etc but for creators like mat said

@Mr.bigheadRetro 4 ай бұрын

stop complaining

@Squidgyluigi 4 ай бұрын

@@Mr.bigheadRetro bruh.

@GassedUpGangsters 4 ай бұрын

@@Mr.bigheadRetroblud is definitely an iPad kid 💀

@Miracle12348 4 ай бұрын

@@GassedUpGangstersI own a iPad am I a ipad kid? I have really bad vision and since iPads are bigger I rather use a ipad then a phone. So like- what am I? (Even though I’m not a kid)

@alexanderyu9120 4 ай бұрын

One of my friends' little brother is hooked to KZfaq shorts and he is 3 yrs old

@BubblesThe_Bee 2 ай бұрын

Honestly I love seeing nutshell animation on my feed. BUT I ESPECIALLY LOVE SEEING MAT PAT❤

@Lemmings19 Ай бұрын

As a method of discovering new creators, shorts have some potential on KZfaq. While I won't generally actively seek out someone's channel if I enjoyed their short, I would hope to start seeing their longer-form content show up on my video feed if I've been watching/liking their shorts or if I hit the subscribe button on their short. I'd like to imagine that this will happen with channels I might not have otherwise ever found.

@TheStone190 4 ай бұрын

I think it would be great if KZfaq made it more obvious how to move to regular videos of creators while I scroll through shorts. Instead of having looping videos, allowing creators to have them not loop and have a recommended screen, or at least have it show for a few seconds before looping.

@whisptrz 4 ай бұрын

DIDNT ASK + I MAKE BETTER CONTENT SO CRY

@An_M4A3 4 ай бұрын

Jesus the bots

@DiamondPizza1 4 ай бұрын

I am so freaking tired of bots on every large KZfaq channel, and it's just completely unrelated content.

@thedraftingax5963 4 ай бұрын

@@DiamondPizza1Me too

@Yenka3 4 ай бұрын

GOD I HATE THE UTTP

@creditcrazy597 4 ай бұрын

Crazy how matt pat has gone from "mat pat the destroyer of childhoods" to "mat pat the guy how's telling you to not get your childhood destroyed"

@mikesurel5040 4 ай бұрын

He is a parent now....

@DaBigBrozer 4 ай бұрын

He made the whole video to unhook his wife from tik tok... Kudos to him

@KrisRN23935 4 ай бұрын

The hero we needed but didn't deserve.

@_cloudface_ 4 ай бұрын

I have no idea who he is, his voice kinda irritates me so I think I'd remember hearing him before so he's gone from "unknown to kinda annoying guy that made a mid essay" for me 🤷‍♂️.

@dougla517 4 ай бұрын

I really dislike the UI and just generally how TikTok works, but I'm in my mid 20s so my opinion hardly matters to KZfaq... For the most part. I'm also *slightly* concerned about what TikTok will do to future generations. I have ADHD, and I find the format frustrating and overwhelming, but that's also because I prefer 30+ minute videos that are more comprehensive to shorter form content - I can watch/listen while I do other stuff.

@synthearose 3 ай бұрын

I feel like IG is the same bc they really are in full on competition with TikTok. It gets boring actually…just scrolling thru nameless content. That’s why I still love YT the most. When mindlessly scroll I can and when I want long form content I can have that too, and all in one app. Plus when I stop scrolling thru shorts, it just sends me back to the last long form video I was watching

@blackoutamvs6550 Ай бұрын

This is actually something i have noticed recently, some channels that i watch suddenly dropped views from 200k+ in every video to barely reach 100k on the recent ones even though the content is pretty much the same.

@joemint5666 4 ай бұрын

I never knew KZfaq shorts had its own game.

@Mag3.1415 4 ай бұрын

^bot

@RainPrime 4 ай бұрын

@@BangerContentstfu bot and go away

@agilecandle428 4 ай бұрын

Wow you got double bots just report them and ignore them

@amazingspiderguy 4 ай бұрын

@@BangerContentdon’t think we can’t see your arguments in your comment history, bot actor

@xaynekingmassiah 4 ай бұрын

@JordanJ1 3 ай бұрын

Foreshadowing Matpat leaving is nuts. The video title in the beginning, the upcoming January couch monologue, heartbreaking. But I’m happy for him ❤

@insanoorange 3 ай бұрын

2:15 FORESHADOWING? 😮

@IbbySS. 3 ай бұрын

Coming back to this video after watching the big announcement video. It really painted the picture of what’s happening to KZfaq creators right now

@NavDisCode 4 ай бұрын

Me realizing I’ve been watching matpat for like 9-10 years… Did my brain shape my personality through game theory? Oh no.

@Bulbbley 4 ай бұрын

Hah, yeah I feel you there. Part of my personality was shaped by this channel. Also You got Quintuple botted by the same bot. That’s insane.

@Hoschikus 4 ай бұрын

That's just a theory..

@Jettfighter 4 ай бұрын

@@UTTPNewEnglandPatriotspack your things get out!

@Sai36ofc 4 ай бұрын

@@UTTPNewEnglandPatriots Well it’s not a bot, maybe a 3 year old. Get off your mom’s phone kid!

@thependingdataset 4 ай бұрын

duuuude me too what the heck

@PuckTDS 4 ай бұрын

I'd get really mad at myself whenever I found myself having had scrolling for hours. I eventually started making conscious efforts to remove KZfaq Shorts from my feed. KZfaq Shorts is the first addiction I've kicked to the curb

@Eocarcin 4 ай бұрын

Get the 'hide youtube shorts' browser extension, it completely removes even the temptation of clicking on one and you don't have to have them clogging up your recommended and home page.

@captainbluescreen5713 4 ай бұрын

Same! I'm so glad I finally got over the addiction, I found out that I wouldn't see the shorts easily if I used the browser on my phone or just kept using "do not reccomend" on the shorts showing up on the app home page. It took a while, but it feels much better knowing I'm not wasting hours scrolling through the toxicity and other stuff I don't like seeing just to get 1 occasional funny video.

@daphne4407 4 ай бұрын

if you turn off watch history they give you a 'turn it back on to see recommendations' message after like 1-2 shorts. does also turn off regular recommendations but mine were always bad anyway. you still get similar videos/shorts under whatever you watch and I find those are closer to what I'm interested in

@Idenversioinfernosquad 4 ай бұрын

@@UTTPNewEnglandPatriots You are the living definition of why society is going downhill. Also give your mum's phone back kid 😂

@ronik7102 4 ай бұрын

@@captainbluescreen5713 you gotta love how the uttp annoyances got 0 likes but you got 26

@sunny__41 2 ай бұрын

2:18 THE FORESHADOWING IS INSANE

@WiiU_G4meP4d 3 ай бұрын

1:57 THE NINJA SLIME

@nowhere280 3 ай бұрын

I CAME FOR SAME REASON

@OneHundredFiftyTwo 3 ай бұрын

@@nowhere280fr

@luckydoomduck6614 3 ай бұрын

Sammmmemme

@Dot_the_best 3 ай бұрын

I CAME FOR SAME REASON 2

@estebanr.fantini9592 3 ай бұрын

Raaaah us anthem plays Goku appears

@rwolterbeek 4 ай бұрын

This is why the 'link to full vid' feature is so amazing. It keeps the exporative nature of shorts, but makes it really easy to actually go to the creator themselves and foster a newfound fandom. More and more shorts are active advertisements for a channel or video, and I'm all for it

@supercat765 4 ай бұрын

Yes, now if there was an option to limit the feed to those shorts specifically. then it is then just mainly a preview feed that is potentially an excellent tool for finding new creators that you would have never thought to actively search for. Like the preview short, maybe you will like their channel.

@bbysiea 4 ай бұрын

@@supercat765 this! i'm constantly looking for new creators to watch, and i love the idea of having a little preview short of their commentary/kind of content they produce or just their general vibe.

@CarlosDaBird 4 ай бұрын

@@bbysieamy exact thoughts too

@kennethM 4 ай бұрын

Yea but the ui for it is awful.

@MrDannyDetail 4 ай бұрын

That's the first I've heard of that feature. Is there somewhere specific I have to click to get to a full vid from a short, or do content creators have to actively choose to add that feature if they want it?

@MyMateNate 4 ай бұрын

This video is 🔥🔥 Hit the nail on the head and cant wait for the sit down serious video early next year 🙏🏻

@dontlookatmypfp5722 4 ай бұрын

Wow 13 million subs. Can I please have a shoutout?

@sansdiamond7229 4 ай бұрын

how does this only have 1 reply? maybe the comment section algorithm is rigged, but thats just a theory, A COMMENT SECTION THEORY!

@mangmee69420 4 ай бұрын

ผมไม่นึกเลยว่าพี่ Nate ก็ดู Game Theory ด้วยเหมือนกัน 555+

@chris5823 4 ай бұрын

windersons father and kennys son

@Poppy-ie8hg 4 ай бұрын

My dyslexia hates your username

@Favvlatina 3 ай бұрын

Guess his dramatic couch talk was so dramatic that we missed it lol

@night_abra7702 3 ай бұрын

?? He did it, just a bit later

@harley_kay_ 3 ай бұрын

2:20 the mad lad foreshadowing his retirement

@ShyCorn 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for speaking out about this. It’s insanely discouraging to see KZfaq pushing Shorts so hard, being what is now considered a “long-form” content creator. I’m finally starting to see decent traction this year, and knowing KZfaq are working towards a future where I will have to choose between my passion or seeing continued growth is really unsettling. Fingers crossed they listen to feedback from all of us and can find a better balance.

@MbitaChizi 4 ай бұрын

Matpat inspires me, my parents said if I get 30k followers here. They'd buy me a better camera for recording.. begging u guys, literally begging

@PulseEva 4 ай бұрын

you don't even have content bro what are you on about@@UTTPNewEnglandPatriots

@noblesseoblige319 3 ай бұрын

"this won't be a couch-talk. I got one of those planned for January, and that'll be more serious" Didn't realize what he meant by that until now... I'm not crying, you're crying.

@RobairtO-Dhoilingta-n16420 3 ай бұрын

...No, you're the one crying.

@quattuorvigintupletritrigi8357 3 ай бұрын

No I’m not crying, he’s crying

@PxtchiMxmo 3 ай бұрын

Im not crying, theres a waterfall starting inside my eyes.

@user-pb8nn8iv9l 3 ай бұрын

Now I know what Matpat meant by having a serious chat on the couch in january.. :(

@nousukas 3 ай бұрын

What I especially hate about the shorts, it's that I see a notification from a youtuber I've subscribed to, but the "new video" is just a short that's just a short clip from his latest video. I think he could just stop posting those, but maybe this video will tell me, why he has to do it.

@keebler138 3 ай бұрын

I'm watching this AFTER watching Matpat's announcement. This video hits harder knowing where it was leading. Thank you for everything Matpat. ❤

@markwing1806 3 ай бұрын

Same 😢

@waffelpokalypse7365 3 ай бұрын

Samesies.

@savionsavior3425 3 ай бұрын

That's just a theory...

@Fleetwood.376 3 ай бұрын

The foreshadowing too he hinted about a serious matchat in January when he quit😢

@danielsilvanusp 3 ай бұрын

literally at it.. 2:15

@chromerot 4 ай бұрын

it finally feels like it's over. youtube has been my main source of entertainment since 2008 and the magic is truly gone at this point. i watch more of it than ever, but i have less emotional attachment to creators than ever. running my own channel has been the thing that pulled the veil for me, realizing my 100k subs are next to meaningless. every video needs to please the algorithm over and over again in order to even show up on peoples' feeds. the concept of an "audience" has lost all of its meaning compared to 10+ years ago, and it didn't just happen randomly. the shift towards algorithms and optimization was orchestrated to pull the most money and attention out of us and it ruined content.

@MbitaChizi 4 ай бұрын

Matpat inspires me, my parents said if I get 30k followers here. They'd buy me a better camera for recording.. begging u guys, literally begging

@FreeStatesofKapuska 4 ай бұрын

I feel like this is both a meaningful comment and also just a flex that you have 100k subscribers, but I agree nonetheless

@bryantheking9149 4 ай бұрын

@@UTTPNewEnglandPatriotsgodamn you're so annoying like don't share it with us. We don't care bot.

@dontlookatmypfp5722 4 ай бұрын

@@MbitaChizithat doesn't work anymore

@Muffin44434 4 ай бұрын

Why is everyone in the replies a bot

@OuterEdgeOutpost Ай бұрын

I've always wondered why TikTok seems to have have so little human engagement. Even compared to Instagram, you see so few conversations in the comments, you never get DMs, etc. TikTok's "de-identified" format probably explains this. No one interacts because no one knows who they're interacting with.

@sahalehogue-eskew1619 3 ай бұрын

As one of the many many ripples you've impacted. Thank you for the 13 years of mind expansion, the laughs, and the brain tickling theorys. I can't wait to see the gifts and treasures you bring from your new adventures when we get matpat cameos. Thank you

@theabandonedbuilder 4 ай бұрын

I can speak from experience, and I’m traumatised about how unsafe, and unfiltered YT shorts are

@GamerTVR 4 ай бұрын

@@BangerContentbot

@GamerTVR 4 ай бұрын

@@BigStrongShoebillbot

@Dont_Read_My_Picture 4 ай бұрын

Don't read my name!..

@Timmering 4 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s true. I’ve seen some weird stuff.

@lnon4361 4 ай бұрын

Bro is a snowball

@anonymousturtle34 4 ай бұрын

I can kind of personally relate to this. When I was in the golden demographic, I watched a lot of channels like CinemaSins, High Boi, and, yes, Film Theory, and because of that I know notice so many of the little things in movies. I notice the plot holes, the odd lines, the things that just don't make sense, and I'm pretty sure I owe it a lot to those types of channels. Thanks for shaping me, MatPat.

@ninjanate5018 4 ай бұрын

I feel the same way ngl. If not for MatPat, I probably wouldn’t be able to gain a deeper understanding of media and would’ve just ignored all the plot holes and such within films.

@bakondude84 Ай бұрын

The one reason is i dont like making them is because it always kicks me out and it’s literally like its so annoying im literally getting angry at it

@aaidenlol 3 ай бұрын

you did indeed have a serious couch talk scheduled for january, god that made me cry so hard 😭😭

@mattsnotbanned 4 ай бұрын

Around 9-10 years ago when KZfaq added autoplay, I always hated it and thought of it as a nuisance, because I always wanted to pick and search the videos I wanted to watch. Still to this day I never use it at all. Now I kind of understand why TikTok and all these other social media platforms have never interested me

@boltogen5416 4 ай бұрын

I agree exactly with this, the first thing I always do on KZfaq is make sure auto play is off

@southernfriedwestcoaster 4 ай бұрын

@bilbsy734 4 ай бұрын

I'm not usually the overly emotional type but that bit at the end nearly made me cry. I was raised on this website. Love ya matpat

@kaimemes 4 ай бұрын

Same

@morebadcoffee 4 ай бұрын

yea

@TheArtsyAviary. 4 ай бұрын

It's been 11 years since matpat joined KZfaq

@sapphireraine7019 3 ай бұрын

Shorts made me realize I need long form videos

@JohnathanFallSeasonGuy Ай бұрын

KZfaq has always had short form media, I remember when the longest video you could upload was 10 minutes, the problem isn’t that Shorts exist the problem is how KZfaq is handling them, by treating shorts and long videos as separate entities instead of embracing them both as equally valid forms of content. Creators should be forced to make shorts, and creators who make shorts shouldn’t have to struggle to make long content.

@awkwardhuman6314 4 ай бұрын

This made me realize just how important and targeted children are on social media that its scary. Ive been on youtube since i was 10 and i still have the same interests i had at that age! Luckily this channel has always stuck with me and was a factor in me loving random and geeky stuff lol But I do wish KZfaq had a switch to turn off YT Shorts because now I am seeing the consequences in children that are less than 10 being targeted and becoming addicted and dependent with the short video format instead of the normal videos. Anyways, thanks GameTheory for being a part of my childhood ❤

@victorsmash12english10 4 ай бұрын

I was also thinking about some sort of switch like that and fell terrible after watching too many shorts. Because one comes up on the homepage that interests you, and from there, it all goes downhill

@WestRipStiker 4 ай бұрын

If you have an android, you actually can turn off shorts, with a different version of the KZfaq app, it's definitely not reVanced, definitely not ;)

@szymex22 4 ай бұрын

You can turn off by clicking three dots and I’m not interested on each one on your homepage whenever they show up. It turns them off for a couple of months unless you watch one then it starts again

@Muhluri 4 ай бұрын

There are also chrome extensions to block shorts

@tc8135 4 ай бұрын

@awkwardhuman6414 i did turn off my YT shorts for a while by selecting "Not interested" on a whole row of shorts. Like the other poster said, they came back after a while, but it was enough for me to get unhooked.

@zerocaris5498 3 ай бұрын

My man talked about how KZfaq is dying and then announced that he's leaving. We love you MatPat

@bluejeremiah1818 3 ай бұрын

look at the title at 0:26

@darladay4766 3 ай бұрын

Not the devastating "January" Easter egg. Side note, as a Tiktok anomaly I was always in my following feed. Those creators helped me survive 2020.

@tigrzera 3 ай бұрын

2:19, wow. Guess he wasn't lying 😭

@camtuber23 3 ай бұрын

I'm watching this after "Goodbye Internet'... 2:15 I understand what he was talking about now.

@Map_bot_but_not_really 3 ай бұрын

Look at the title in 0:26

@justluke9456 3 ай бұрын

@@Map_bot_but_not_reallyWow the fact he hinted towards it...

@gabrielleduplessis7388 4 ай бұрын

The thing companies never seem to understand is balance. You know how they say energy diversification is important. That should apply to social media. You have to adapt to many different learning styles which requires using different formats. That does not mean only focusing on the one thing you think is popular and ignoring the rest.

@neeneko 4 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, career advancement doesn't mesh well with balance. Personal brands are built off being transformative , any pieces left over from the previous person takes away from the singular focus of what you have done, and that image is what gets you your next job.

@stoodmuffinpersonal3144 4 ай бұрын

And we don't do it to energy, too. We say we should, but don't. We should ACTUALLY do it for both.

@TheXenoEnder 4 ай бұрын

Capitalism isn't designed for balance, it is quite specifically imbalance in practice

@Dominguezzisa 3 ай бұрын

WHY DID MATPAT TEASE HIS RETIREMENT IN THIS VIDEO?? 2:18

@forthelowpriceof4.99 3 ай бұрын

His goodbye at the end too😭 the signs were all here

@Dominguezzisa 3 ай бұрын

@@forthelowpriceof4.99REAL, and there has to be more of these teases. I need a compilation of them

@ThatTexan-xr9gx 3 ай бұрын

Around the 4:30-ish minute mark when matpat talks about how you can get interested in anything at anytime is so true. Just moved, but on the way up I35 to DFW, I noticed all the different big rigs had different states on their license plates, and I started keeping track of the different states I saw on the plates to see how many states I could get. Fast forward, and now I wanna draw license plates😂you can definitely get interested in literally anything

@shannyn7404 4 ай бұрын

This video made me realize why I find using TikTok frustrating. I was using TikTok like KZfaq. I'd watch a TikTok I really liked, and then try and go to their page to watch more of their stuff. I'd search for a type of video instead of just scrolling. I want to choose what I'm going to watch. Its definitely because I grew up on KZfaq. Fascinating.

@opaque3998 4 ай бұрын

dang. looks like youtube got this one!

@ZeldaLilly330 4 ай бұрын

I gravitate towards longer videos on KZfaq, because I like to play them while I'm working and they feel more meaningful. It would be a shame to lose those.

@SilverstarandFriends 4 ай бұрын

I'm with you, I like to watch the longer videos once but then my favorites become my go to for background noise while I game or work on other stuff because it's still entertaining but I don't feel the need to look since I've seen it before. Having to switch videos every 10-15min would be a pain so I pretty much exclusively watch ~hour videos or a playlist.

@mr.boomguy 4 ай бұрын

@@SilverstarandFriends That's what I do myself when I'm at work. Put up either a playlist or long for videos. It sometimes helps to calm my nerves during work and also helps to dull my thoughts (which are mostly just fantasies and such, but can be draining in the longrun)

@SilverstarandFriends 4 ай бұрын

@@mr.boomguy yep, having something interesting playing helps with the monotony of work for sure.

@Square_Peg 3 ай бұрын

I really REALLY hate shorts, not so much because they are short, but because the player sucks, I can no longer add them to my watch later playlist and because they clutter up my subscription feed. I'm 46 and a PC user watching on Chrome so I found an extension that just simply blocks all shorts everywhere. It is wonderful. It is the way KZfaq was before shorts even became a thing.

@ProfessorLinder 3 ай бұрын

HE DID NOT JUST FORSHADOW HIS RETIREMENT @ 2:15

@N2O_The1000thElement 4 ай бұрын

This is exactly why I hope that youtube will one day develop a "turn off youtube shorts" option.

@RLane-xz5cj 3 ай бұрын

The shorts cluttering my page is the straw breaking the camel's back for me to get into ad blockers and stuff. Some of them let you isolate and block specific features on a website instead of just ads. You have to keep up with which ones youtube has figured out how to block itself though, so it's a bit tedious. I also don't think there's any hope for the mobile app on this front though.

@nicodawisp 3 ай бұрын

@@RLane-xz5cjyoutube revanced :D

@nicodawisp 3 ай бұрын

youtube redux (for desktop) and youtube revanced (for mobile) are your friends :3 i never watch shorts or even see them unless im actively seeking them out from a creator i like, makes my life a lot better

@amylivsley4882 3 ай бұрын

Matpat is leaving the Internet😢

@pythogron 3 ай бұрын

@@nicodawispYUP! I just couldn't understand why would anyone not search for their own solutions and waiting for "official" solution. I don't even remember the last I watched a short, it's been peaceful

@pokegard 4 ай бұрын

I have been strongly against KZfaq shorts since it became a thing, especially because as far as I am aware some old videos of short length was turned into shorts after the fact Edit: autocorrect added an extra s

@theoutsiderjess4869 4 ай бұрын

My cringy first video when i was in high school got turned into a short when it lsunched

@Jettfighter 4 ай бұрын

@@UTTPNewEnglandPatriots🤡🤡🤡🤡

@zerogaming0000 4 ай бұрын

yeah you're right, somebody i know uploaded a video that was under a minute long and it was turned into a short automatically

@zerogaming0000 4 ай бұрын

@@UTTPNewEnglandPatriots just remember, nobody asked you to exist

@iamgoo 4 ай бұрын

@@zerogaming0000Unfortunately yeah, two of my vids were as well

@Fisheygamer 3 ай бұрын

Everyone was shocked by that serious couch talk in January

@Jadevilz_ 3 ай бұрын

2:20 FORESHADOWING.

@clarkclemons7756 4 ай бұрын

It feels so strange to imagine not having a favorite content creator. I know what I am getting when I click on a game theory video. I like the familiarity that it brings! It really does help me relax to watch videos from the same creators I watched as a kid. I still occasionally look up Dantdm’s video of him moving in next to Dr. Trayaurus’ lab just to remember how it made me feel watching that as a kid.

@tominieminen66 4 ай бұрын

Hmm... now I want to know when I started to watch KZfaq, I tend to roam around more in my entertainment, different creators come and go Spurred by your comment I shall try to dive into the history of my KZfaq journey

@ash4760 4 ай бұрын

This, i know they’re basically ruined but i still sometimes look up popularmmos and watch their OLD videos because I love them!

@AnonimusQualquer 4 ай бұрын

Interesting to hear about this because without using TikTok, without being in touch with the younger generation I wasn’t aware that you are supposed to just scroll through the shorts. I saw my husband doing that few days before I watched this video and I found it confusing since it felt like going through the entire recommendation list to find the few gems he really intended to see. And yeah, I actually look through the Shorts recommended and only click on the ones that actually interest me, I don’t scroll through them. Because of that I do notice the channels producing them and interact with them just the same. And I’m not that old, I’m in my mid thirties, but still it was interesting to see that being somewhat virtually illiterate on how short videos are supposed to work and treating them the same I do with longer videos, I didn’t feel this alienation with the creators. Though can’t say I escape the addiction part. That s**t is strong.

@YingofDarkness 4 ай бұрын

Same tbh. I only started paying attention to shorts when my favorite creators started making them. Then I only paid attention to the ones from new creators I like. I don't just scroll through feeds unless I am extremely bored and even then if I find one creator's videos I really like, I'll go to their channel page to look for more videos and will subscribe if I see more stuff I like. I treat it like a marriage of Vine and KZfaq more so then i would tiktok

@PoiuyKnight 4 ай бұрын

My situation is the same. However, I'm 18, 19 in a couple of months, for what it's worth.

@TheKetina 4 ай бұрын

Yes! This is exactly my situation as well - I actually could tell MatPat my favourite shorts creators, because I watch them selectively and visit their channels and never scroll through them!

@MsCellaneous 4 ай бұрын

@@YingofDarknessagreed

@VcSaJen 4 ай бұрын

I find "shorts" interface virtually unusable. It's incredibly easy to accidentally move to completely unrelated video I don't want to watch, and going anywhere where I want is basically impossible. I always substitute shorts URL to normal video url when I watch them. It's still annoying to watch without a vertical monitor, but at least I can actually navigate.

@user-dt7ss5xz4x 3 ай бұрын

KZfaq needs to make “Shorts” a separate app. Easy fix, they can compete with TikTok and not ruin KZfaq. It can be the s in alphabet

@user-pn5wk3sd6r 3 ай бұрын

2:19 Is like matpat telling us hes leaving KZfaq soon, but in after 9 videos he'll be gone.

@Athena_Light 4 ай бұрын

This felt haunting. I avoided tiktok but fell in yt short addiction.

@crumblingcascade 4 ай бұрын

In the same boat :(

@thecuriouscat4102 4 ай бұрын

You're not alone, unfortunately.

@sirichandanaakarapu378 4 ай бұрын

Same 😢

@CasperdaGreat 4 ай бұрын

Yep, that’s me

@Wyldflare 4 ай бұрын

Same

@AmethystsMinecraft 4 ай бұрын

Personally I have already been avoiding shorts and TikTok just for these reasons, my attention isn’t the best, and I’ve been trying to get better, which they certainly don’t help with.

@Jay_Frank 4 ай бұрын

Shorts blocking extinction would make that easier.

@MELLMAO 4 ай бұрын

@@Jay_Frank they removed almost every single one and it only works on desktop, when real issue is the phone app

@thexavier666 4 ай бұрын

@@MELLMAO Google KZfaq Re.van.ced

@fredericbellemare3991 4 ай бұрын

@@MELLMAO on the home page of youtube on your phone, you can click on the three dots on each short video and choose "not interested" until there is no longer short recommanded for you. Unless you watch a short from the short tab, youtube will not present you anymore shorts

@randomrandom2020 3 ай бұрын

Bro why isn't this a film theory?

@santoi 22 күн бұрын

Why are you the most popular comment?

@theoschneider6099 17 күн бұрын

@byron. 3 ай бұрын

Another thing unmentioned here is content theft/plagiarism has always been a problem online, but the lack of creator identity makes it even worse. If you saw a game theory video with matpat’s voice on a channel called “mysteries of gaming” then you’d probably realise something was up. On the other hand, many ‘successful’ shorts accounts across all platforms purely steal or ‘react’ to content, but viewers don’t know or care that it’s stolen.

@mckenziebate2949 4 ай бұрын

Finally someone brings this up! KZfaq shorts has always creeped me out for some reason, but I could never quite put my finger on it until now. Thanks MatPat for bringing these issues to light!

@Cinnaschticks 4 ай бұрын

Same. I just assumed it was because all of the weird stuff that cropped up the further I scrolled.

@Jay_Frank 4 ай бұрын

Get the shorts blocking extension

@Cinnaschticks 4 ай бұрын

@@Jay_Frank that doesn't really work for phone users, the main audience for shorts...

@burgerking6368 4 ай бұрын

1 year ago I deleted tiktok from my phone and my life changed for real for the better. One thing tiktok or shorts can´t replace is kind of the feeling of belonging.. especially at Gametheorie, there it feels like one huge community, all with the same interrests and intentions. Thanks Teamtheorists for making this happen. Greetings from germany

@Squidgyluigi 4 ай бұрын

I am so sorry you have to deal with these bots.

@aSpookywaffle 3 ай бұрын

Me realizing what he meant 2:15

@Zepherlink 3 ай бұрын

Not mat subtle hinting to his retirement video right at the start 😢😢

@SeanLamb-I-Am 4 ай бұрын

It's interesting that this video appeared on my suggestions shortly after the health update for Dianna that Destin made. The outpouring of love and support for Dianna in the comments is what helps make this site what it is. Creators may sometimes make bad decisions, but they can also have unfortunate circumstances around which the fanbase can rally to help.

@LuisSierra42 4 ай бұрын

I just watched that video as well, but I saw them in my notifications

@saphcal 4 ай бұрын

i just watched that video too lol weird.

@calebfaulconbridge9629 4 ай бұрын

Same

@srbu8650 4 ай бұрын

Same with me.... It's so uncanny

@AGuyThatMakesStuff 4 ай бұрын

who is Dianna

@soffren 4 ай бұрын

This explains perfectly why this year was such a boom for editors. Cutting shorts became the highest paying skill beside smooth brand integration.

@Thegamerpro1243real 3 ай бұрын

We will miss you matpat

@Abdichar 3 ай бұрын

Thinking about how KZfaq emphasizes the creator or the Contant… I feel it is ironic that this is probably the last, Matt Pat video or game theory video that I will watch unless I go back and watch replays… Now that Matt Pat is leaving game theory, I really have no interest in the channel anymore… It was Matt Pat his demeanor when he talks, and the way that he approaches topics that kept me invested in this channel… Matt, Pat we will miss you… I will miss you… I have been watching ever since your first assassin‘s creed theory… And I really enjoyed all your theories since then. Thank you for educating us, and opening our minds to concepts that we would never have considered on our own.

@user-ho8wm8xp1i 4 ай бұрын

When Matpat uploads a film-themed topic to a channel intended to analyzing gaming, you know something has fallen into the deep end.

@jan_Eten 4 ай бұрын

yeah

@webbedshadow2601 4 ай бұрын

Yep you know its gotten bad...

@SeaForest 4 ай бұрын

As someone who is 24, started watching KZfaq in late elementary/middle school, with Markiplier, Game Theory, and Jacksepticeye as the 3 channels I first got invested in… I don’t think this is just a theory 🥲 Hope KZfaq changes for the better, I keep hearing so many creators I watch talk about how depressing it is, and with the Theorist himself showing the overall view of it, hope 2024 is a better year ❤

@tobias-steinert 2 ай бұрын

They should release a second app for Shorts. It would help both short and long form videos.

@GrumbleThePerson Ай бұрын

“This wont be a couch talk i have that saved for January” never realized what that meant untill i rewatched this vid 😢

@KETROSSI 4 ай бұрын

Actually a fun fact: if you don’t watch KZfaq shorts for long enough you won’t get any on your front page! (I actually managed to do this and I found out myself. Since KZfaq saw me never watching shorts I didn’t get shorts on front page anymore.)

@Natewu188 4 ай бұрын

I still get pushed them, I don't watch any at all I hate them lol. I've solved the issue by getting KZfaq redux to return to 2018 layout and hide all shorts from all pages and on mobile I have vanced to remove shorts

@Hebdomad7 3 ай бұрын

Lies. The algorithm knows what you're looking at. Do not look at what you don't want fed to you...

@KETROSSI 3 ай бұрын

@Hebdomad7 well it did happen to me so I'm not lying, it just could be different since it's been around a half year

@silverbloodborne9495 3 ай бұрын

KZfaq made it default so when i open the app Shorts straight away

@LifeHecker 4 ай бұрын

2013 MatPat: KZfaq is a game. 2023 MatPat: It is still not a film theory!

@SorchaSublime 4 ай бұрын

to be fair from the perspective of a youtuber, KZfaq is absolutely a game in a way that film isn't.

@Face._. 3 ай бұрын

0:25 and 2:15 😭 foreshadowed twice, we'll miss you Matpat

@AceofAllAcesJames5558 3 ай бұрын

1:59 IS THAT NINJA SLIME?! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇲🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅