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Source available in the same way Red Hat is? ;-) Also today is supposedly the final day (we'll see) on the Synty bundle.

Thanks for the vid!

Can you teach us how to install the editor I tried but when I tap download after selecting version 1.6 and supported platform it doesn't show anything I need help sir

Oh nice, that's good to hear.

Genuinely curious: given the current state of the engine (very new, smaller community, less tutorials, smaller team with apparently one main engineer, and no asset store), what metrics are being used to say that Flax is worth 1% less royalty than Unreal, and 1.5% more than Unity?

​@@bitmasked It's in their TOS

@@zeon137 I’m aware of that. I’m asking why they think it’s worth the amount they are asking for.

@@gamefromscratch Pin that comment already!

@@TercumeyleSabit I'll happily let my accountant handle that when I get that sum.

@@TercumeyleSabit if you reach that level, you should give some credit to the developer, no? It's worth it!

@@TercumeyleSabitThat’s 4% after 250,000 per quarter. So, if you make 250,100 in a quarter, you pay 4 dollars. If you make 249,999 one quarter and 249,999 the next, you pay 0 (extreme example, I know). The quarterly 250k vs annual 1m means that the licensing is better if your revenue is spread out over the year. Either way, it’s significantly cheaper than Unreal. I personally think they should move down to 3% or 2.5%, and there is a card on the roadmap to make the revenue share more favorable for developers, so we’ll see what happens.

@@LordBeef Yeah, it's 20% cheaper than Unreal. If you earn $1M + $400 within a year (spread out) with Flax you pay $16 and with Unreal you would have to pay $20. I don't think any Unreal Engine feature is worth that $4. I am making $1M games regularly but still do not have custom licence, needs or employees. /s

@@LordBeef "So, if you make 250,100 in a quarter, you pay 4 dollars." ... 250k * 4% = 10k, not 4 dollars...?!

have you tried stride? whats the difference between them?

​@@tPlayerioT i used stride and it crush so hard in empty projects, and other users included me have problem where you have crash window apper when existing app

Only issue with Stride is that it can only deploy to Microsoft platforms, so Windows, UWP, Xbox, etc. I think it recently got the ability to deploy to Android and iOS, so you could maybe use it for mobile games, but I'm not sure if those targets are production-ready, and if you wanna make games for Mac, Linux, PlayStation or Switch, then it's just not possible.

@@DisturbedNeo Linux exports work fine, mobile is there but seems broken atm and console is deprecated so Xbox only works for 4.0 and before with UWP.

Having only one main dev is not a great selling point, no matter how good that one person might be.

Glad to be of help. Honestly I can kinda get how existing engines could have a Unity like EULA and have no idea it was a problem. Hell, 99% of us had no idea the EULA in Unity was a problem until they very much made it a problem. Good to here he is moving to a Unreal style perpetual EULA approach, this is the only accetpable option going forward IMHO.

... this is because I'm spying on your thoughts. It's how I stay one step ahead.... ;) Just kidding, glad to help.

Flax works pretty similar to unity with exposing fields, and you can serialize all editor fields in the current script just by calling `JsonSerializer.Serialize(this);`

The serialization API of Flax is based on Newtonsoft JSON and it's fantastic. Exposing script fields works roughly the same as Unity, and you can make their equivalent of a ScriptableObject from any C# class (as long as Newtonsoft can handle it). Being JSON that also means all of it's human readable, and less prone to errors than Unity's YAML. So unlike basically every other engine on the market: you will be able to merge your data changes.

It's a shame that Stride doesnt have nearly as much coverage that Godot has

have you tried Custom Resources? they are like ScriptableObjects, Human readable, and git friendly

​@@Wolfos530Yaml is more readable than Json. That is the purpose of Yaml. Just because unity generates bad yaml doesn't mean Flax's json is gonna be readable. Furthermore, Yaml works better with git rather than json because you can't have trailing comma in json.

@@sothatwemaybefree330 Flax, Stride and Godot

unity has near-instant playmode if you enable it though

@@deathtidegame seems like you never had project bigger in Unity. It's normal that we wait 2+ minutes after pressing play and project compilation takes 2 hours and beyond.

@@rytif yes, it requires me to clean up a couple of static variables with an extra line of code and makes my enter playmode instant. What's your point?

@@LotnyLotnik use assembly definitions and disable the domain reload, my compilations went from 1+ mins to 10 seconds and my enter playmode from 15-20 seconds to 1 second

I am thinking about doing 1 long introduction tutorial, yes. Is there enough interest?

@@gamefromscratch I'm interested!

​@@gamefromscratchI'm interested too

Count me in!

@@gamefromscratchlet’s do it

Do a web search for "Unreal problems."

Oh yeah, it looks and works very similarly. It’s also got an extensive API like unreal engine

UE 5.3 for 3D, while the rests (except Unity) for 2D

I don't like Blueprints.

Glad to be of use.

This thing is more like Unreal with C# scripting. The more I play with it, the more Unreal it feels :)

@@horeaper truth, even the project launch splash is literally identical to UE project launch splash.

What a b#@stard! Temp or die people, temp or die!

You forgot GameMaker Studio 2.

What about game maker construct and gdevelop

@@DoomCatcher I just mentioned the 2 as examples. I've made small games in both game maker and construct great as well.

@@Xero_Wolf curious to know why you recommend defold over them if you don't mind sharing

@@DoomCatcher I didn't recommend Defold over them. Maybe it's how I worded it but I just gave Godot and Defold as two examples. Couldn't go listing all the 2D game engines I know. Truth be told I have only recently tried Defold and it felt pretty solid to me. If someone is a beginner I can't see them going wrong picking any of these 2D engines. In fact I'd say try em all and see which one suits you best.

A lot of people (like myself) would be 100% happy/ok with Godot never having visual scripting. Why try to shoehorn that in, when existing (often free or open source) solutions already exist?

@@hipflipped Well, I don't need it either, but there are a lot of people I work with who are artists or musicians, who are much more productive when they need to write something in that. Text code can be scarier than most experienced programmers realize. So for that, I'm fine with it existing, as long as it doesn't cause bloat (which it shouldn't). I guess it's more of a team thing. That said, I do think that it is very important that it is editable as text (or even better, translatable to GDScript at minimum with portability to other languages), and would like it very much if someone implemented a way to go from text to visual, too. I'm not sure I follow the "existing solutions" part, though. Is there a plugin that offers visual scripting in Godot that I'm unaware of?

Why are they trying to reinvent the wheel. Just do what unreal does and make it gdscript as a node

I honestly really love the visual scripting and it’s the one of the main reasons I’m switching over from Godot to flax since it’s just more intuitive for me. I do enjoy coding and I wish I could explain it more but it just clicks better for me.

what's the problem with Stride? I give up on godot XD

what's the problem with godot? XD

​@@edward3190Stride is somewhat unstable and feels a bit abandoned to be honest. I was trying it some weeks ago and it crashed many times

@@edward3190 Stride crashes a lot and doesn't feel very stable as an editor. Godot is fine, but I use Unity for my living income (contract work and app development) and Godot does not feel like it's ready to go in that world yet. Basically.. I would not trust these engines with my career the way I do with Unity.

@@zeon137 Yes, this

I doubt that. O3DE originates from CryEngine which has stability problems from the beginning. Dev teams usually tend to introduce fancy new features rather than fix instabilities. Stability usually only degrades with time, but rarely improves.

​@@Alex-kr1egwell, Crytek games are pretty stable, sharing my personal experience, of course. I can't say these are bug-free, but you can't say these are unstable. What I dislike in O3DE is system requirements. Anything other is pretty good.

​​​@@Alex-kr1egO3DE has a huge amount of the code rewritten. The entire renderer was rewritten when they moved from "Lumberyard" to O3DE. The project is very far from Cryengine 3.5 today. But it thinks it's a question of commitment if the engine reaches a state where it's a real option.

mid/long-term perception does not exist for immediatists

What are the advantadges you like? Flax lets you contribute features, but the dev wants it to be a commercial product, as in he wants it to make him money when other people succeed with it. He's worked on it for 11 years so far, so I think he has good reason to want to make money from it.

@@user-mc4rr9fe6y He also doesn't take donations, which is huge when you compare it to Godot. Just rev share

​@@user-mc4rr9fe6yThat's the point. Flax is a one man project and most likely will always will be. It's basically impossible to build a community project with a license like that.

Correct, being a "one man project" (no matter how great a dev that one man might be" is not a selling point. I tend to avoid software that has one point of failure like that. @@novh4ck

I think flax does have DLC support listed in the docs

@@user-mc4rr9fe6y no it's still on TODO list.

There is only partialy true. While it might have some pain points, bug reports are fixed within days/weeks, while with Unity PAID support often had to wait for months before fix was released.

@@LotnyLotnik One of the bug reports I filed is still open, more than a year later. This bug had a pretty big impact on the game's animation quality.

​@@Wolfos530 What issue number is it? I could ask it be fixed in their discord. They are very good with fixing issues quickly if the issues are brought to attention.

@@user-mc4rr9fe6y #739 would be my guess.

From what I know their focus in on 3D for now, and 2D stuff will come later. But it's 1 guys work so it can take a while

The 2D support is a lot like what Unity has before 2D mode. You can make "fake" 2D use orthographic cameras (and Sprites), just like what Unity 2D game devs used to do. Proper "flat" 2D support is far far away. It's not even on the roadmap.

If you want 2d there's plenty of options really. Only devs struggling to find unity alternatives aside from unreal would be 3d honestly and godot is really not that great at it.

Thanks, will fix.

Honestly, both are good options and both have their strengths and weaknesses. Godot is certainly the safer bet, bigger community, shipped titles, more diversified/stable dev team, etc. But Flax is pretty exciting and a lot of fun to work, so if it looks appealing to you, it might be worth giving it a shot.

If you're a decent coder and you understand roughly what's going on underneath the abstractions, the naming conventions aren't that important tbh. When I started writing my own framework I tried some languages, all very different in syntax and you get used to syntax/terminology really quickly. I think Unity developers that want to switch should not rely on similarity with Unity when picking the engine. Be open minded, if you get frustrated because of some naming convention or different workflow don't outright quit the engine. If you have the time take a couple of days for each engine you want to try and build something small with it. That will give you a better perspective than "how similar to Unity is it".

having the same name would be really helpful for switching engine or writing code compatible for both engines.

but i think this engine is looking promising !!

I believe all royalty based engines are based off revenue over profits. Tracking profits is just too tricky and frankly, to easy to cheat. A good example is FOX screwed the authors of Alien out of royalties by using math to say that movie lost money. Yeah, Alien, that Alien. Lost money....

​@@gamefromscratchyou think it's bad that Alien lost money? David Prowse, the on screen actor for Darth Vader never got any residuals for Return of The Jedi, because it never made money. Yeah. The movie that had a nearly $500M box office (in 1983 money!) on a production budget of $32M lost money.

Ouch, I shall have to give this a try. Granted, building for mobile is almost always a painful experience, so I'm not sure I'm looking forward to it.

You likely stumbled on the same thing I did the first time around. You need to set your build to Release Mode in the Game Cooker settings

Did you ask in the discord? they are very helpful there

UnrealCRL was abandoned by it's developers. The contributions now are slow, and only from community. Wanted to give it a try but couldn't because of lack support for 5.0.

Honestly if web was my only target, and making a 3D game, i'd probably go Babylon, PlayCanvas or CocosCreator. All other web targets always feel a bit... hacky.

thank you very much❤@@gamefromscratch

VR is not available yet

Unigine is a good choice, a very capable engine. It's a bummer they focused so heavily on engineering and industrial use (and benchmark creation) and didn't try to enter the game engine market earlier, they could have been a much bigger player.

Try the "master branch" version, it has many fixes. You could also wait for 1.7 to release in a week or 2

Depends on what catch you mean.. you have any concerns in mind? the engine is a bit buggy for some people.. but ive never had really bad issues

It's my #1 choice for backup if not using Unity. Development has been very rapid, it runs extremely fast to the point of being instant, rather than Unity's crazy loading bars. I think the main issues I see are: 1) Some things here or there might not work immediately, but often it's already fixed if you compile yourself (which is apparently also very very fast) or coming in next version or is often fixed very quickly, and with access to the source code you could even contribute a fix too if you wanted (but unlike some fully open source software, nobody is using this to say "go fix it yourself, we don't care", which was the feeling I got from Stride). 2) There are some things that are actually fine, but look bad on paper for people who haven't had things personally explained to them, which isn't really a good way of handling it, so there are some people going around being excessively negative about certain things that have been covered but the PR/marketing just is not there and is not a focus or priority. A few major things hurting the engine's look, and it's not being addressed as quickly as actual development. So I keep seeing some frustrating comments calling out issues that aren't actually issues if you look into it (on the Discord), but I can't blame them for not looking deeper, they shouldn't have to just to not be getting a wrong idea on these things, which have been brought up but still haven't been clarified on outside of Discord. 3) It has yet to have a commercial game made in it, to really put it on the map. It's also not the best for 2d (at least currently). I was surprised how many features were present that I'd expect to have to get from the asset store on Unity, but they're just available out of the box in Flax. I think UI stuff is still coming in 1.7 or 1.8, so there may be some holes here or there for what you're trying to do. The roadmap is useful to look at, it shows how much and how quickly things have been added, and it's very down to earth and less vague about what's on the list for next. Also, code contributions are accepted, regardless of where it's at on the roadmap.

Why not? ;) gamefromscratch.com/stride-for-unity-developers/

Because when something isn't working well, the answer is "it's open source, you can go fix it whenever you want".

My reasoning is "Think of the money We can save with stride" And I went in and saw that flax and stride has a lot in common But flax is source available and will be like unreal engine in the near future (memory hog) and with their store it will be unity 🤔 the perfect balance

Its supposed to be fixed in 1.7, which comes out soon.

thats huge thank u@@user-mc4rr9fe6y