TRy building yourself an SFX-100. 10cm travel, but fast and responsive. Best part: you build and print it yourself (sounds dodgey, but look it up, it really isn't)

I know it is cheeky, but at 0:13 I can see you in what looks like the SRD Motus Ultimate, from the time you spent with it would you say you could recommend it as a motion rig?

So what motion rigs do you recommend?

out of curiosity will less work for flight and space sims too?

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Like a bowling ball in washing machine.

I’m dead 😂

muhahahaha

im bald and thats funny af🤣🤣

I thought of that actually, Mercedes seats with active side bolsters must have been a cool idea to experiment with that tighten on certain side when turning the wheel

As someone who's looking to purchase a rig, what would you recommend?

@@Moose1776 a 2 dof racing seat with scn5 actuators or gs-5 gseat.

@@systemachic not the H3 DOF?

All I want is a sim rig that vibrates a bit and feels realistic when I play forza horizon 5

What ever you do dont watch an old skool health n safety vid late at night when shes in bed.

Hi, I'm Mr Muscle. I understand you have a problem with your... "simulator"?

@@toxaq 😂

@@chilli-soup I will only watch it if GM is director and actor. 🙂

Crash! Bang! Wallop! What a video...

@@putzak 🤣🤣

Thanks 👍😊.

This is exactly my experience and why pressure seats + tension belts to me are 100x better than tilt to simulate g-forces and sustained forces.

As someone who's recently been getting into Racing sims and is looking to get a simrig in the future, where could I look around for a good rig that takes in account the tips mentioned in this video? :O I mostly do VR drifting, not sure if that's important or not, but I'm super keen on getting one of these for myself at some point! I found one called Yawvr that I thought was good, but after watching this I'm starting to reconsider it haha

With a 6DOF rig you can achieve great results regarding transition and sustained G force by combining the DOFs through filters. Basically the horizontal movement gives the initial spike feeling but since they have a limited stroke the motion transitions to a sustained G force by tilting the rig through lower frequency lowpass filters. For example the "FlyPT mover" motion software allows for fine-tuning these transitions. In case of a rectangular 6DOF rig (not stewart platform) you are using the vertical actuators' stroke mostly for tilting the rig, while still having enough headroom left for simulating the bump on the heave DOF and also allow for extra tilt due to the geometry of the race track for places like eau rouge, or for rallying, etc...that's why my motion rig has 180mm of vertical and 360mm of horizontal stroke. The actual heave movement is very much dialed down but the extra stroke comes in handy when simulating the transition between initial and sustained forces. Motion platform size alone is not telling the whole story, the devil is in the details how you drive it...

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@@GamerMuscleVideos perpetually scared 😆👍

@@ACasualRacer I mean, after the year that is 2020, I wouldn't blame him for being perpetually scared lmao

Absolutely agree ... Have my D Box since last christmas and can't be any happier. Dont think there a many better solutions out there...

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@@GamerMuscleVideos Dammit.

Bass shakers are an awesome value add... I think the further up the stack you go the less value for money you get in terms of improved experience.

This is well put. Most garage band style motion simulators advertise things people can comprehend, which is stroke, speed and DOF's. But I would submit that increasing stroke length, DOF's and even speed has significant compromises. You are in a simulator and NOT a real car, so what you want is 'accurate recreation' and not "exact replication". Besides exact replication not being attainable at most homes, (concrete screws to hold your chassis past 5G) this would also be a massive health/safety concern. Most people, "think" they want real motion, but what they really want is for the physics engine to accurately communicate data and expect the motion supplier to accurately translate that for all cars, tracks and sim softwares (this is the hardest part). You have start at the fundamental level of signal processing to achieve such a result, but as this video accurately describes, most, what I call garage band motion systems, just take raw G-force data and move the actuators as quickly as possible to achieve position targets, which never works as the change of position targets, or JERK moments, happen quicker than most current controllers, hardware and even software can handle. [speaking from 10 years of track experience and 11 years of sim experience] (could still be wrong here) :-)

@@PeterSosinski Exactly. If people do some research on proprioception, they'll make much better purchasing decisions. You can mount a NLR V3 (low) into a t-slot like a GT-1 Evo, add a 4 or 5-point harness with the vertical belts attached to a simple DIY tensioner, then add the Simrig SR1 actuators for the 4 corners. Add a couple of tactile transducers and after 10-20 hours of consistent use on the right setup, your brain will map all of the cues you have in the rig: DD FFB, seat moving (subtle & quick with the seat belt tensioning), 4-corner motion, and the tactile rumbles/vibrations. You don't need a lot of movement, just sharp, precise movements properly mapped.

What's a good value motion base that you would recommend?

I have a GS5 seat and it works great simulating g forces...! What a great product..!

think of rigs that use either 'butt-kickers' or D-BOX for their tactile feedback vs systems like the ones that were shown towards the beginning of the video!

Lol I'd love to visit au at some point who knows it might fix my sleep issues 🤣☕.

Sfx100

I was waiting for this all the vid too :) u'r experimented ? alright ! but tell me how to spend my money lmao

I would say DofReality is a great budget rig.

Most important thing not being covered..

Im a newbie. Im wondering what do you mean by haptics? Im planning to buy sfx100 too

@@Jason-tk8wm Bass shakers, I have 3 in the seat (left/rear/right) and 2 on the pedals. These use soundwaves to give feedback for things like wheel slip, TC/ABS, Gear change, etc. It's vibration, not motion basically. I'd get the haptics first, they add tons for a lot less money and time than building SFX-100.

What about the H3 DOF?

@@TheLeblancGroup i have a dofreality h3 and love it in Compilation With vr. But i Never tried another Motion rig. I think small roadtextures and bumbs are in Otter Rigs With acctuators better. But for the Price it’s a Good Motion rig. And for My Taste to less Motion is less fun and immersion.

Your message got filtered due to the link , should show now 👍 I quite liked the force dynamic rig but personally I much prefer rigs that move less / just the simplicity and practicality that comes from more minimal solutions. Obvously any person looking to buy a rig for training or commercial use should try a bunch out before they buy and make there own mind up.

👍🏻 all motion systems have extensive tuning menu’s and properly tuned for each individual sim they add so much immersion and consistency especially in a long race season. I love mine and couldn’t go back to sim racing without it! I can catch and control slides better. I can feel the bumps, the change of camber, braking on the limit better etc etc. Nothing compares except real life it’s self.

Everything that is wrong with motion sim rigs. Sorry the worst of the lot!!!

the demo you provide about constant turning and G force comparaison are amazing . Nobody provide such real comparaison to prove efficiency of there system ! i love your good sim !

It‘s okay for the money. Do you drive only or do you like also simfly? Because if you like both, then i would recommend the new yaw2 before the H3.

What do u recommend as the best set up? Was looking at the DOF H3?