To move quicker in Hook, hold down the attack button. Same thing when you fly.

Pro Tip: You can turn off the Fruit border in Yoshi's Story with L. Bonus Pro Tip: Play Yoshi's Island instead

Oh man, Hook on SNES is a surprisingly good game. I remember getting it for Christmas and thinking "darn, why did they buy this instead of something better?" only to put the cart in and and quickly realize it was a very good game. The gameplay really made the game work. It's definitely worth playing even today.

I thought Altered Beast was considered to be good by most people...

I had fun with Altered Beast as well. I didn't realize it had such a bad reputation.

Hook is still one of my fav hidden gems. I was playing through it late last year when I found out for the first time there was a way to run by holding either the attack or jump button down. When I saw it made you fly faster to it blew my dam mind.

I like the genesis "Welcome to your doom" better than arcade, sounds more evil

I didn't even know people hated Altered Beast. I always thought it was great, most of my friends did too. It was awesome back in the day.

Dave is absolutely wrong about Hook. It has a run mechanic, you just have to hold the SNES 'Y' button. It allow you, inclusive, to fly faster and pass that difficult spiky part in Hook's ship. That game was a gen. Try it again Dave!

Your Altered Beast cartridge label darkened like that because the manufacturer used cheap quality glue. The same thing happens to Activision carts on the 2600. Thank you for all your wonderful videos.

"Games That Aren't as Bad as You Might Think" Altered Beast as first game... WHAT THE FUCK???!!!

Not that it's a good game by any stretch of the imagination, but E.T. is not nearly as bad as people like to claim it is, nor is it anywhere near the worst Atari VCS game.

Not only can you turn the square of fruits off in Yoshis Story but you can also center them more or move em more towards the edges. Gotta play around with the controller Dave....!

i think you might be playing Hook wrong, because i very clearly remember running and flying fast.

This is the first I'm hearing of anybody hating Altered Beast. This was always a classic among my circle of peeps.

I'm sure someone has said this but you can run in Hook just hold down the jump button. It's a good have, it may be nostalgia, but I enjoy it.

I rented that Hook game constantly back in the day. I think I just really liked the ability to fly around in it, and the music was just like the movie!

Some games that are better than people give credit for: Simon's Quest (NES) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (NES) Zelda II (NES) Columns (Genesis)

The fruit border in Yoshi's Story can be removed or repositioned with the c stick.

On Yoshi's Story you can use the D Pad to change the size of the fruit frame and completely hide it.

Altered Beast is awesome. I don't care what anyone says. That was one of the first home games that was really close to the arcade version.

About Hook, I don't know if someone have already said but you can run by holding the attack button (Y). I really like this game.

L removes the fruit border in Yoshi's Story. I grew up with the game as a kid and my Parents were one of those people where "you can't get a new game until you beat the one you have" kind of people. I really got into Yoshi's Story, I even found the Black and White Yoshi's which were 'secret' ones.

I just discovered your show and I have to say, I like how positive you guys are. I mean, you call a spade a spade when something about a game sucks, but the fact that you even have a video about games that aren't as bad as you would think or that their rep would have you believe speaks to the positive qualities of your show. Nice to see something other than "the 10 worst games evar!1" for once. 10/10 will watch more.

Would love to see a "children's games that don't suck" episode. Great video though guys. Glad your both feeling better. 😎👍

Great to see Altered Beast getting some respect from a mainstream KZfaq creator! Same goes for China Warrior. Milon's Secret Castle has never clicked with me, but as Dave alluded to, I think it's because I don't understand how to play the game. Yoshi's Story is a cool game; I didn't realize that it was considered "bad" by some. Glad you guys are feeling better. Welcome back!

Good episode; really refreshing to watch something that reviews middle of the road titles. Many vids focus just on the best or the worst but the majority of titles fall into this category so it is great to see it featured like this, Keep up the good work!

Beatdown: Fists of Vengeance. It's a 3-D beat em up made by Capcom and directed by our friend Kenji Inafune. It seems to be hated by nearly everyone who remembers it. But I'll tell you back in the day I rented it and loved it so much that when it was due back I returned it and headed straight over to Best Buy and bought myself a copy. I've played through it at least 10 times.

The sack is back! Sorry to hear you guys were both sick last week. Great video, respect the sack!

Wait, people don't like Altered Beast? Sure it can be hard, but I always used to have fun with it, the Genesis version at least.

Damn I had no idea Yoshi’s Story had a bad reputation. And I kinda liked the way you move onto another world after one level. It gave you incentive to play through the story a few times. Also the hidden black and white Yoshis you can find that join your team and basically act as extra lives

HOOK in SNES is such an underappreciated gem Great music, good levels, and there is a run button you guys!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Was that enough exclamation marks to make my point?)

I feel like the hate for Altered Beast is oddly retroactive. I don't remember people hating on it when it was new. I was blown away by it myself.

I never understood the Altered Beat hate. That game sold me my Genesis.

That darkening has a nickname "actiplaque" since Activision labels are notorious for it. It has to do with the glue aging. If the lamination on the label is worn or not as thick(like less shiney when new) it usually will darken the worst. Hope that explains a little!

In Hook, if you hold down the weapon button, you can dash and even fly faster. It makes the game a lot more fun, in my opinion and I still enjoy it to this day. I'd go back and give it a try, if you could :)

I missed my weekly sack last week, I was starving for some sack and I am so happy that this sack was so nourishing and satisfied my craving for sack.

I'm a little late and I didn't see anyone mention it while glancing through comments, but in "HOOK" you CAN run and fly faster! Just attack once and hold down the button and you'll pick up the pace!

thank God a new ep :) i was just thinkin yesterday how i could use a dose of sack. don't ever change your format. it's perfect. there's not many half hour shows i actually watch all the way through on youtube, with you guys its just natural and i always want more.

A couple of things on Yoshi's Story (from memory having last played the game in...1998 or so?) - I remember the disappointment that it was more a kid's game than a sequel to Yoshi's Island. A lot of people were hoping for the latter than the former. That it was so easy was a bit of a letdown. - If you take it for what it is - a cute, happy game with fun mechanics - it's a lot better. - I think you can hit L or R or Z or something to hide the fruits - There's a bonus for collecting all of the light green melons instead of the other fruits. That's what I used to do for an added challenge.

Hook does have a run button hold on the attack button and he'll run he can even fly faster when he's got pixie dust by holding same button

For the next "not as bad as you think" - Mischief Makers.

oh how i would love to see more on this topic. so many 'popular' opinions on youtube for so many games are just completely ridiculous and a pure result of groupthink. nice episode as always!

I've been watching gamesack for at least t years. Don't know how I missed this episode, but holy crap. Shadow Blasters... I have had this memory for almost 30 years of the boss fight with the gigantic sprites, floating in space. I only played this game once when I was 8 or 9 as a weekend rental. I couldn't remember anything else about the game other than the boss fight. I've tried googling to figure out what game this is many times over the past 15 years! I'm definitely going to pick this one up and finally satisfy my nostalgia. Thanks Joe!

These guys have a fantastic T-shirt collection!

Who ever had the impression that altered beast was a bad game?

What about an episode discussing games that are dismissed due to how similar they are to popular games: Ex. 8-Eyes (Castlevania), Ranger X (Blaster Master...sort of), Gunstar Heroes (Contra), Kid Chameleon (Super Mario Bros. 3), etc. I love your videos, guys.

Everytime the yoshis sing, my heart melts a little

Thank you Joe 🙏 it’s nice to see someone stick up for Altered Beast for a change. I never quite understood why Altered Beast gets so much hate. Game devs were working with a new system/new software I suppose, but I think the game is fine. Nothing spectacular or noteworthy really, but I don’t think it warrants the hate it receives. Also, like you Joe, my opinion may be a bit biased and might be skewed through my nostalgia goggles, as it was the first game I had for the Genesis as well. Admittedly, the game is quite primitive and there isn’t a whole lot to it, but it still plays pretty well. The whole vibe of the setting, the characters, and especially the music, gives off a sense of foreboding. I don’t ever hear anyone praise the music, so I guess I’m in the minority with my appreciation for it. I LOVE the first song. It’s amazing how much of an impact music can have on a game. But anyway, I know I’m 6 years late to this video but I’ve seen all of the newer gamesack videos :( so now I’m binging on the older ones. This channel is by far the best gaming channel! We all miss Dave, of course, but I am so glad that Joe stuck around for us! I totally understand and respect Dave’s decision to part ways so he can focus more on his family and his responsibilities, but I bet he misses you Joe! Poor guy, being an adult sucks lol. Who wants to sacrifice their fun video game channel with their buddy, for their job at UPS 💔 lol I’m sure it pains Dave deep down, but I hope he and his family are doing well! Miss you man! And Joe, I love YOU! thanks for remaining faithful and not cheating on us like Dave 😆 jk Great video by the way! 🖤

Yoshi Story is an awesome game and you can turn the fruit display off, you know. I can't understand how you wouldn't figure that out, but whatever. I played the crap out of it and the only reason I don't have it anymore is because it my copy went missing mysteriously a few years after I got it.

The adhesive used to adhere the label to the cart is breaking down... It's weird, cause companies must switch out products during production runs cause you'll get some carts that begin to look like yours, and some that look flawless... If the cart was previously exposed to the elements, i.e. stored in an attic/storage unit or kept at a flea market etc., that can speed up the deterioration process... But yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what that is - It's happened to a few of my Genesis games...

You can move really fast in Hook by holding the attack button like in a MARIO game. Also while flying.

In Hook, there's a "run" button when you fly, but it is not something that you'll know from the start :P

I love Altered Beast! I play the arcade version of it a lot when I have a half hour to kill on Sonic's Ultimate Collection on 360, it isn't as good with that wonky-ass d-pad on those controllers, but I still love it every time. It reminds me of playing it on the machine at the gas station back in the day when I needed to get rid of my allowance.

I'm surprised you got as far as you did in Hook without figuring out how to run. Yes there is a run button... or rather, you run the same way you do in Super Mario Bros: the attack button, when held down, is also the run button. I'm honestly kinda surprised you didn't accidentally luck into that, as that's how I figured it out.

why don't people realize in yoshis story you just push the L button to hide or reveal the fruit readout

Milon's is a great game. It's like a mix of The New Zealand Story, Metroid, and Simon's Quest. It is hampered by frustrating controls and sloppy hit detection, though. It's also great proof that nobody reads manuals, as it clearly states that you're meant to use your bubbles to break blocks to find items. Angry Video Game Nerd single handedly made this game out to be something mind bendingly impossible and ultra confusing, when in fact all you need to do is fire bubbles at everything and rub up against every wall. It's exactly the same as what you do on Metroid, but Metroid is a huge sprawling planet whereas Milon is a handful of little rooms.

That Hook game would’ve been even better if it was just called “Rufio” because then you wouldn’t be a slow, middle aged man in tights-and if I recall Rufio had a cool sword.

GameSack! Important content recomendation incoming: Please make an episode about your favorite VG Music, that you listening to on your MP3 player.

yes you can run in Hook just hold the attack button its in the manual

14:45 I'm pretty sure there's a button that let's you hide the fruit.

"These are based on the four elements like fire, wind, lightning, and... whirlie blades."

In "Hook," you hold down the "Y" button to fly faster and to RUN. That's how you get through the spiked corridors AND how you make Peter look badass. Also, the music is EXCELLENT. Easy one of the selling points for me as a kid - aside from the GamePro review of the SNES cart, which gave the game PERFECT SCORES IN EVERYTHING (seriously), was the amazing work on the soundtrack.

Altered beast was my first mega drive game too

I never knew people considered altered beast bad, for myself i still love it.

That was one of the least awkward intros in a long time...good job, guys!

Great episode. would like to see more in this series. also, really glad you guys are feeling better again!

I like Millon secret castle, glad it was in this episode.

One game that I had a lot of fun with but got a bad rap is Way of the Warrior on 3do. The controls were different but not bad once you got used to them, and the graphics and secrets were insane for the time. Plus I really like White Zombie so I thought the soundtrack rocked, remember this was before almost any games had “real” music.

You can run in Hook. Great game! Just hold the Y button down while pushing a direction and after a few moments Pan will burst run. Much easier to jump bigger pits later on. Love the show!

24:25 This is such a cathartic moment, guys! Thank you so much for that - in the era of console wars, paid reviews and cliche game journalism, we truly forget that it's okay to get enjoyment from what you really like playing! I am sometimes surprised when I realise that many games I played and loved 20 years ago are considered crap and, honestly, from an experienced player's point of view, really are crap. But I don't care!

If I recall there was a way to move the fruit display in Yoshi's Story closer to the edge of the screen while paused so it isn't as intrusive.

Glad to see Yoshi's Story on here, I actually liked it.

The awful singing at the end of Yoshi's story was my favorite end game moment ever. It was absolutely hilarious and makes me chuckle now whenever I hear it. Yes, that's like 20 years later....so it's definitely a great addition

I loved Hook the SNES! I played it all the way through, I thought its soundtrack was particularly on point. And the ending with the completely stiff crocodile was epic.

We need part 2

Yoshi's Story doesn't have the fruit on screen all the time in the PAL version, you can toggle them with L(?)

Hook on SNES actually DOES have a run button. Just hold down the Y button while walking.

It might be a really subjective topic, but I think this is an excellent idea for episodes! I hope you guys do a bunch more - there are so many games that have been slandered by popular reviewers and younger players might assume are terrible, when that's not the case at all. Castlevania 2 and Zelda 2 are two of the biggest that come to mind, when in actuality they're both fantastic games, just different from and maybe not quite as good as the other entries to their series around the time of their release. I know you've talked about those in particular before but this is the kind of subject that would make it kosher to bring them up again, and many, many more along those lines, even if the point here seemed to be slightly lesser-known titles.

I keep reading 'Game Sack' as 'Games Suck' lol

I've never heard of anyone hating alterbeast

Oh, come on, Dave. You can hold some button and Peter Pan flies faster, that's how you get past that long spikey parts.

Great episode guys. Maybe next time you do an episode like this you could include reviews from popular publications from the time of the game's release. Just a thought, but I think it would add something to have an example of a contrasting opinion, and you could maybe address where a reviewer's opinion differs from your take on a game.

People thought Altered Beast was bad?

You could run on the game hook. By holding the attack button and moving forward makes you run :P . i know this cause i have the manual of this game.

You can turn off the fruit around the screen border in Yoshi story n64 (there are actually 3 settings for the fruit border.)

14:42 You can toggle the fruit display on/off with the L button or d-pad.

I honestly didn’t know that people hated the Genesis port of altered beast. Hell, I’m in high school and I have friends that like that game, and they are the same age as me or younger. It’s aged at least okay if not well.

Another game that gets a bad rap is the western rpg Elex. Very underrated gem despite mixed and mediocre reviews.

You can TOTALLY run in Hook. Walking would take forever!

"What did you think?" Dave, I've played Hook and it's AAAAAASS! 😀

I think it's the adhesive that starts bleeding through the label? My Altered Beast and GREEN DOWG are in the same shape. Streets of Rage, as well. I'll eventually replace the labels, because screw people these are my games. Not sure if I'm right about the adhesive bit, but I'm totally right about screw people. And I think they redid the voices from Altered Beast because Neff sounded like the snarky guy at a... specialty bar...

you can totally hide the fruit on the side of Yoshi's Story. I thought it was a shoulder or a c button. You guys should be more thorough

I think your Altered Beast cartridge label darkened because somewhere along the line, someone must have peeled the thin glossy layer of the label causing the paper label to deteriorate.

You guys should do and "epic sound track" episode. For example, I've never even heard of Ace Combat 2 but since last months episode, I've youtubed the full ost at least 20 times. You guys have a knack for picking out great songs from all of these games.

Wherebear? There bear.

Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street for NES deserves more love

All right! Episode 150! Have you guys planned on doing anything special for episode 200? Hopefully something as awesome as episode 100.

hey dave in the game hook when you start flying if you hit the atack button and hold it while flying you will fly a lot faster

Altered beast is good just hope it had an ending to make me feel like i accomplished something