Rule of thumb is it? Haha... I get your point as well.

The cycle continues lol

These minis are actually going to be part of a Aliens/space hulk diorama/ movie display project I am working on at the moment.

Imitation is the best form of flattery

There were genestealers in Rogue Trader but they were a lot more like Aliens in appearance Space Hulk was the first with genestealers as they are now, but they only becamea tyranid thing later.

Thanks! I like painting these because it was just relaxing and easy.

Alien would have been hot in the late 80s early 90s as well.

DRAKENHOF NIGHTSHADE SHADE

I didn't know Starship Troopers was a book? Thanks for the info.

@@FacilityD20 i think it was originally published in 1959, also has another race called skinnys which remind me of tau air cast.

@@justinchristopher8974 That is really interesting, it sounds like there was a lot more to the book than the movies.

@@FacilityD20 The movie, while being a beautiful schlock flick, has very little to do with the book. Heinlein is one of the greatest sci-fi writers, and is constantly 'copied.'

@@justinchristopher8974 I love that someone else knows about the book. This book was used in defense of a writer GW was attacking for using the term "Space Marine", claiming they owned it.

Thanks

The Necron flyers are also a lot like Cylon raiders

I feel the exact same way. I think the nid needs more color on the carapace, and claws.

They were "heavily" inspired by lol.

Haha. Thanks as well, simple but looks great on the xenomorph for sure.

A lot of people have been saying that.

Yes for sure. Thanks, some shots from the films they almost have brown tone to them.

They definitely built on it.

They are bad for it

3rd edition was released 5 years before Spawn?

Yeah, they freak out a lot if someone tries to borrow from them for sure.

We will call it Inspired by Aliens lol!!

Haha. I noticed it a long time ago, just never had a YT channel until now. Also, thank you kindly.

You're welcome Thanks for watching.

Well dam... you think they would lighten up on animators and artists

@@FacilityD20 Do you really think GW would do something like that? Just steal from other franchises, only to copyright those things as their own? Then sue people who copied their copies? Surely, someone like GW would pay it forward when it comes to others wanting to contribute to the 40k IP on their own accord. JUST KIDDING! GW absolutely does awful shit lmao

Nice. My nid army is green

Yes!

Agreed

Thanks a lot for the Sub very cool of you!

I did think about this and I think that some grey would look good, for a nid force that invaded a city, with some rubble bases. Do a city theme.

Ripped off might be a bit harsh lol. Heavily Inspired by.... we will say

@@FacilityD20 really am enjoying your videos. Keep up the good work!

@@CatchFlipsidE Thanks a lot! Drawing getting better at making videos

Thanks

Thank you! Cheers!

Haha... that sort of thing is what I don't get from GW...

My man

I agree about Terminators and the catachan jungle fighters too

The Catachans were also nod to 80s action movie heroes, like Rambo.

@@evanlindsey1100 yep, hence the red headband.

Hahaha good point!

Haha... that last line made me laugh

A few people have said starship troopers was a book before the movie and I didn't know that until today!

@@FacilityD20 Apparently neither did GW considering the whole Spots the Space Marine fiasco.

@@RoseKindred the what now?

@@FacilityD20 Okay, back when GW had their own forums and multiple social media platforms, about 2012ish, they went after an indie-author who wrote a series of books. They sent legal notices to the author and Amazon to remove the books and stop selling future copies. GW claimed they owned the trademark and copyright to "Space Marine" as well as other common words and phrases. In fact, they still claim to own "the protection" to use the word Space Marine, even though it is a common word used since the 1930's. Amazon refused to adjudicate the issue and told the author to work it out with GW. The story went out to a few news sites and famous people like Wil Wheaton signal boosted the injustice. Eventually, Amazon looked at the complaint when EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) came in to help the author. The book was later restored to be sold on the platform as well as the author being able to sell it on their own. The backlash forced GW to shut down all their social medias and their own forums. This is also why all the paint names were changed to unique names as well as rebranding the marines, so they can claim the undisputed protections of those words. GW still claims they own the registered and "unregistered" (their word) protections of the word(s) and phrases as well as others. Same stuff they are pulling on KZfaq with "fan art" even though that is protected in the USA.

@@RoseKindred I know that took a while to type so thanks. You know somehow I missed that whole thing, which is odd case I was more into the public gaming scene in 2012, before I moved to a town that has no flgs. Now all my gaming is with a group of friends.

Yes, in the earlier movies, but the later ones it's been gloss black. I like the black better.

Better late then never right haha...

The first edition nids are actually pretty unique if you look them up, I wasn’t alive so I can’t say if they look like “alien concepts of the time” lol. But after the first few editions, they just blatantly stole ideas

@@kuroshm what I mean is to call it stealing makes it sound like GW was doing something that every other IP in the 90's wasnt doing... And they all were. DnD to Star Trek, they all upped the presence of biomechanical aliens in that time period. Yes it was all inspired by Alien, but its not like they werent being creative... its just how inspiration works.

good point

the old school nids are crazy looking

This is true, but its fun to take a shot at GW...

Haha

A lot of people be saying that!

Thanks for the info, I assumed they took inspiration, but it is nice to know they were fans of Alien and it was intentional.

It would be interesting to aid the layer that Prometheus and Alien Covenant brings with the viral element.

Don't forget though that xenomorphs can infest any species (see the Dog xenomorph in Alien 3). Think of what kind of horrifying would happen if a face hugger were to impregnate a genestealer or warrior.

Definitely

Well, if you're going to rob ideas, might as well rob from the best.

everyone robbed Tolkien

Stand on the shoulders of giants

Thank you kindly! I think a lot of the push back on GW the past months have been retaliation due to their actions on fan made animations, 3d printing, and price hikes...

Agreed, honestly we live in an age where true originality is hard to come by, but so be it. However, when GW starts going around saying "don't copy us" when so many of their stuff is either "heavily inspired by" (aliens-nids) or straight ripped off (Dune: God Emperor & lasguns)...Imma point and laugh at their hypocrisy till I pass out XD.

Haha, going to town on GW.

@@FacilityD20 The truth is the truth, 😉.

I think some of my favs are Dune: God Emperor & lasguns Dark Angels: Poet Lionel Johnson 1867-1902, wrote a poem titled "The Dark Angel" ....they didn't even try with these ones XD

Eldar are based heavily on early Japanese mecha from the 1980s. They doubled down on the aesthetic when Neon Genesis Evangelion came out in 1994 by copying color schemes for the different craftworlds. Go look at Fight! Iczer-One (1985) which has elf-looking people piloting sleek mecha that could easily be mistaken for Wraithlords. Falcons and Wave Serpents are basically Mazone fighter ships from Space Pirate Captain Harlock (1977) flipped around. I'd be completely remiss if I didn't mention Dragon's Heaven, whose power armor and mecha would easily be mistaken for Wraithguard or Aspect Warriors. Death Corps of Krieg? French WWI uniforms. Valhalla Ice Warriors? Soviet WWII winter gear. Armageddon Steel Legion? German WWII Afrika Korps. Vostroyan First Born? Crimean War Russian Cossacks. Terminator armor and Space Marine Dreadnoughts? Taken straight out of Starship Troopers. Then there's all the stories and novels that are just rehashes of other books. 15 Hours is Catch-22 set in 40k. Fire Caste is Apocalypse Now/Heart of Darkness. Siege of Vraks is basically Stalingrad. Colonel Schaffer's Last Chancers are directly stated by Warhammer's designers to be the Dirty Dozen. The list just goes on and on lmao

I think it was more the other way around with Blizzard copying GW with the zerg...who in turn copied aliens...so umm copy of a copy of a copy.

lol

then is it still a copy? haha

@@jeremymohr2193 When Blizzard was designing the Zerg, they took inspiration from Xenomorphs and Tyranids but changed the aesthetic to a more insectoid from; this carries over to SC2. When GW updated their Tyranid line, they ended up copying the SC2 Zerg aesthetic

Wait what... haha, thanks for watching though,.

Haha.. nice