Exactly, it could've been perfect for tablets even slightly justifying the higher price since a lot of tablets are more expensive than similar specced phones, don't see why they made this at all tbh.

recommendations for a tablet controller?

​@@BurbananaXbox Series Controller

@Burbanana BSP D8, there's a new Pro model and a BSP D9 also

@@Burbanana you have very few options but generally the IPEGA 9083s has been an option, it can support up to 280mm long tablets . The s9 ultra tab is 320mm so it’s so close to being big enough for that colossal tablet, but if you’ve got anything smaller which you likely do, you’ll be fine with it

Exactly!

​@@RetroGameCorps To be honest, you can just colour that in with a Texta or Sharpie, or just put a black ductape or sticker. It's really not worth listing in the Pro/Cons section. I think a MUCH bigger issue with this controller is how the right stick digs into your palm, accidentally triggering it, when you're just hitting the Action Buttons. Yes, the NSwitch is notorious for this same issue. Companies just don't focus on the end products like they used to. The whole industry seems happy to copy Microsoft here. But the Xbox doesn't have that issue simply because the controller side is that much larger. When this scheme gets adapted to a mobile device, things get squished together, and teething issues like this show themselves. Best solution actually is the WiiU Protroller from 2014, that scheme or layout actually scales down for mobile, and it's what Razer used back in 2019.

They would have placed the right thumb stick at the top like on the steam deck. That I may gripe with the game sir g8. It’s so awkward for me to use that right thumb stick in that low position. It’s for people that have incredible small hands i guess.

**glares at windows 11**

The Best fit for it is: The RaZeR Edge...or the Pimax Portal...instead of a cell phone... with or without case... 🧐🙃😎

These controllers aren't even as good as the one in handhelds,

I think a lot of companies are just not trying to reach a wide market. Instead of trying to do real innovation they just add some gimmicks and market it as a more "luxury" option. Kinda what happens with the steam deck and other hand helds.

Definitely bro

Find a fill and need it?

I don't think that's worth the trade off of no charging while using and having to charge the battery, especially when it doesn't work with tablets

​@@TimothyStudercharging while using is easy with a right angled adpapter.

@@TimothyStuder A portable, fully wireless, two piece Bluetooth controller that can support tablets is too much of an ask. If you look at this design, the only thing holding it back from supporting tablets is the clamps. Making the clamp a single horizontal design would drop the design back to a large single piece controller. Personally, I didn't get why not supporting tablets or iOS is a drawback. This is a niche enough product where any normal person would only have one device they would buy this for. If that device is an iphone, they don't buy this one. If it's a tablet, again, look elsewhere. For me, since I've broken multiple telescopic controllers the way I mentioned above, where they're fully intact but one side or both no longer function, I love this design and always wanted something similar to the Joy cons minus the drift.

I will assume that you are talking about razer kishi, but at least in my X2 Pro (and non pro, i have both), it uses 4 long retention springs as electrical connection between the two halves, which is IMO will outlast the buttons and USB C port. Speaking of USB port, I don't know about other controllers, but the one in X2 does have flex cable (because is moves back and forth), which I imagine will be the first one to go. Different brands, different problems I guess.

A spring and data ribbon and a USB connector to break VS Two springs and two batteries and two or three radios and a whole bunch of magnetic/electronic contacts to break. I don't think product longevity is going to be a big differentiator here but time will tell I guess.

Android controllers and iPhone controllers don't work with each other

True, but the x4 has hall effect gimbals. Far less likely to wear out, if ever. You pay a little more to keep the product for longer. X4 is better imho

Perfect for ROG Phone that have weird usb port positioning and large phone

yeah, it's such a pain taking my phone case off if i want to use my current controller, especially because im usually playing on the train and such

Maybe it's just my cheap phone case, but I've been using my X2 with the case with no issues whatsoever, and I'd imagine X2 Pro/X3/G8 would have the same situation. There already were Bluetooth-only options if the port is covered by the case, too.

@@HunterTracks thinner cases are ok, but thick ones, like the Supcase or Drexnor, are a no go.

Why does color way matter?

​@@billmore6486The customer is always right in matters of taste

It's the same controller. I remember Redmagic having their own version of G8 Galileo so not surprised they also have their own X4

Yeah, at that price point you could just get a handheld that comes with its own controls, and save phone battery at the same time.

This. True purpose of this product is to "try" to be pocketable for your phone. I think it largely succeeds. It is a very underserved market. The only device that gets close is the Razer Kishi, and that has a flappy middle, and hard side shells. But the first position by a longshot is the Razer JungleCat. Remove the joycons, slap them together, and stuff them into a pocket. It works too well !!!

Adding on from the Razer JungleCat. If you had one since 2019, and an ageing Samsung S10+ you had a good run. Truly. It was like the hidden gem, that aged like wine or a PS Vita Slim. And the gold standard is to keep using your Razer JungleCat, because there really aren't real alternatives to it. Not even this new GameSir X4. All you have to do for your Razer JungleCat is just ask someone to 3D Print you a Phone Case for your next phone. Wether that's the very pocketable and very impressive Samsung S24+ (fits into the Note9 case from Razer) or maybe the upcoming Google Pixel 9XL (for the root and custom roms). All of the above is for pocketable segment, where you don't need to bring a backpack or other type of bag. If you do step up, for the portable segment, you basically have a few options. The first is a telescopic controller for your tablet. The best example is the GameSir G8 controller. And the second option here is an actual controller. For example, in your backpack you have your tablet AND your Xbox controller AND a kickstand for the tablet AND a flat surface to place it on. The segment above that is a stationary device, which you add peripherals to turn it into gaming. Best example would be to have a Standard Desktop PC, and then if you add something like Racing Wheel, suddenly it's great for that mode of gaming. The above utilise an existing device and add tactile controls, but, you can have a standalone device instead. Again standalone device for gaming, you need to consider the different segments like pocketable or portable or stationary. The best pocketable device that's dedicated for gaming currently is the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro. The best portable device that's dedicated for gaming currently is the Valve SteamDeck OLED. The best stationary device that's dedicated to gaming currently is the Sony PS5 Pro. Again, there are lots of options whichever way you slice it. It really depends on a personal preference.

I'm actually pretty surprised he didn't compare this to the Razer Kishi, which is very similar in size and design, but direct connect instead of Bluetooth, and has charging passthru. It also goes on sale pretty frequently

There is another cheap split-type of Bluetooth controller, Mocute 061F, though the feature may not be the same with the X4 Aileron

​@@DuckyDoGamingthe current model, v2 uses the same design as Backbone. The old one was made by Gamevice, and they have a new version with charging and audio jack, for iPhone or Android. The only problem it's always sold out.

Mine too. Beautiful screen, great audio and SD card support. I wish LG still made phones😢

No shit, for $100 more you get a retroid pocket 4 pro

It's an android controller... It's not gonna work on iPhone. Just like controllers for iPhone don't work on Android. They have separate versions

@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 It's bluetooth. Pretty sure it should work on iPhone. Most work for both. And for $100 I would expect it to work for both.

Or Tablets

It should connect fine to Windows, using the method I showed in this video where you hold onto the Xbox button to turn the controller on.

I've got the X2 pro but this is much nicer to hold, and fits my S24U with case.

The razer kishi v1 worked with my Samsung Galaxy A52 in the case when i removed the rubbers inside it, that is until the ribbon cable got damaged and the left side of the controller stopped working

You can cut out the rubber strip near the usb c port on the G8, it fits with every case I have on my Oneplus 12

other controllers that support cases: - Razer Kishi (both V1 and V2. just take out the rubber) - Backbone One (2nd gen) - any bluetooth controller

​@@aiSage48What a dumb list.

@@aiSage48 Thanks!

But this have it advantage when you want to attach the peltier cooler in the middle of the phone, help reduce the heat when play some heavy title. I have the Gamesir X3 which is have the cooler built in, but it only fit 2 out of 4 phones of mine. I definite buy the X4.

Yes, similar to what Russ did at 18:00 you can connect it to an Android tablet.

I want to do something like that for a friend who has joint issues and can't comfortably hold normal controllers. Due to having their arms and shoulders turned inward too much. They really like split joycons and wide controllers but there's not a lot of choice out there.

Since it's a Bluetooth controller, you could just get someone to 3D print a filler stand-in, it would probably take them like 15 minutes to design it and $5 in plastic costs to print.