Game Theory: Are Theories KILLING Video Games?
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A while ago over on Film Theory, I tried to figure out if we theory channels and fans RUINED Star Wars. Did our analysis make the creators feel like they had to do crazy things to surprise us and not play into our predictions? Well, it looks like we need to have that conversation AGAIN - this time about the video game industry. Listen, Game Devs need to let me be RIGHT!
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@Daggz 2 жыл бұрын
Honored to be included in this discussion matpat! Been watching you for like a decade now so it's insane to just casually show up in one of your videos like that, absolutely honored
@user-jm6qe6sz2p 2 жыл бұрын
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@user-jm6qe6sz2p 2 жыл бұрын
Шшщщщ
@stupid_birds 2 жыл бұрын
@flower has eaten wdym ?
@jadedragon9262 2 жыл бұрын
I know this daggz guy
@stupid_birds 2 жыл бұрын
@@jadedragon9262 oh ok who is he ?
@chaosic08 2 жыл бұрын
Game company : "Oh no they guessed it. Quick, change it!" Mat : "I think they changed it. Here's my theory on them changing it!" Game company : "DANGIT"
@shekosheko4504 2 жыл бұрын
Whykzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLmDecqI0arGeok.html..
@The_Black_Star 2 жыл бұрын
Wait is it fnaf, oh god!
@Mr.Djagent6060 2 жыл бұрын
Read my name!
@thatKole 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Black_Star no, it's probably hello neighbor
@nickter745thebold8 2 жыл бұрын
No one’s safe from Matt… Unless I make something alongside what I’m working on to completely throw off Game Theory entirely… 😈
@homerunproduction 2 жыл бұрын
I think another thing to note is that When MatPat is correct, that doesn't mean your game is predictable, it means (like he said) your story is logical.
@cowboyblaze2158 2 жыл бұрын
Fact. I don’t care if I know who’s the final villain is as long as it was hinted too and has a pay off
@raziasultana5222 2 жыл бұрын
that makes a lot of sense
@windums560 2 жыл бұрын
You use extra T's, my friend MatPat
@homerunproduction 2 жыл бұрын
@@windums560 Ah thank you
@squadnft5176 2 жыл бұрын
@@homerunproduction ikrkzfaq.info/get/bejne/l5eabNKop9vblIU.html
@skeeplebop Жыл бұрын
After thorough thought on the subject, I've decided to not leave a comment with the word "jumpkick" in it, only because Matt asked so nicely, and I wouldn't want to disappoint him ❤
@seedingson2803 9 ай бұрын
YOU FOOL
@alexdemary5274 7 ай бұрын
You just did.
@St0xMap 7 ай бұрын
@@alexdemary5274that’s the joke
@nullut2000 5 ай бұрын
@@alexdemary5274r/woosh
@StarlordUEFN 2 ай бұрын
@@nullut2000Reddit user
@nikorosell7903 9 ай бұрын
I just wish game developers would make a fun game with an intriguing story, instead of theory chasing 🥺
@amokriinprolgiid3409 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite case of a creator trying to throw fans off of the truth has to be when Alex Hirsch (the creator of gravity falls) saw that fans started guessing that Stan had a brother who wrote the journals, and he created a fake leak framing McGucket as the author of the journals. It was brilliant and did exactly what he wanted it to do, without sacrificing the story.
@kaysee2428 2 жыл бұрын
Yea! Alex Hirsch did a great job with that!
@jamwhip5108 2 жыл бұрын
Alex Hirsch just does right by his add ins and do dads. I remember that even in the cypher hunt after someone accidentally found the next clue he asked the fan base to complete the puzzles for unreleased content.
@pb4705 2 жыл бұрын
Or how everyone was convinced Tad Strange existed and then he was a normal guy who liked bread
@jaromweissvert4121 2 жыл бұрын
@@pb4705 I thought he was?
@butterrboi1776 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaromweissvert4121there was lots of fan speculation that he'd be important, maybe even some sort of sidekick or rival to bill when all the fanbase had was a voice credit to his name in a future episode description. it was pretty funny when he was revealed to be just some guy
@Merrsharr 2 жыл бұрын
"I knew it" is way more rewarding than "I didn't see that coming", especially if that twist feels forced
@sonjaimmonen6610 2 жыл бұрын
And a confused "whaat...????" is even worse.
@EllenMF12 2 жыл бұрын
I know, the best is that you get more interested in the story, since you guessed it once, the author who made the plot thinks like you do, or follow your logic, so of course you'll read more to see if you can get more things right. Like the opposite is also true, if you believe something gonna happen and it's completely the wrong conclusion you can even get annoyed with the story and plot because there was foreshadowing for one to be the villain, but it was someone else who already was proven to be wrong and it was bs all along... The fans who were reading or following the story won't read because the logic don't make sense to them and it may even make them ignore the story.
@ting6342 2 жыл бұрын
GG
@CrymsonNite 2 жыл бұрын
Like Rian Johnson's star wars, that feels like he changed every plot point to be the opposite of fan speculation, and is easily the worst star wars movie.
@chiboiross_1832 2 жыл бұрын
That's a fact that lines up I'd rather be right than be confused with the overall plot.
@mcbjak4346 8 ай бұрын
I think its a great point that developers should let the fans have their win. The fans will get excited cus they picked up on the correct clues, and the developers laid out the clues in such a way, that there was indeed something to track, somthing to theorise about.
@tfmaker675 10 ай бұрын
I love how Mat jumpkicks into his transitions. It’s really nice editing style and I might pick it up someday.
@THESMARTWONS 5 ай бұрын
fr
@Brittanysplittany 2 ай бұрын
Smooth “jumpkick” inclusion 👌
@Zula_The_Squid 2 жыл бұрын
When theorists are able to guess it right, it's a medal of honour for the developers. It means that their plot makes sense and isn't absolute bullsquid.
@rest1585 2 жыл бұрын
Fnaf be like:
@chibi_okami 2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@cybellecrider9244 2 жыл бұрын
@@rest1585 I’m still trying to understand where we thought mangle caused the bite of 87
@TryMyName56 2 жыл бұрын
@@cybellecrider9244 Fnaf 4 is the bite of 83 mangle caused the bite of 87.
@TheRealHalolad 2 жыл бұрын
Nice pun master of squids
@SaganHawkes 2 жыл бұрын
Woah, really great video, honored to be mentioned in it. Interesting hearing your perspective on this whole topic.
@odd-eyesvon 2 жыл бұрын
The "don't chase that Game Theory video" is such an iconic line from your channel, that I'm ecstatic that he finally addressed it.
@anza3007 2 жыл бұрын
Let's Go, I'm so proud of you
@jojocircus9818 2 жыл бұрын
i love your channel
@mselysia834 2 жыл бұрын
You're the icon of this channel now buddy
@shinigami429 2 жыл бұрын
thats right be honored foohl the great master matt pat had chosen you
@focornali4349 10 ай бұрын
I think it's ridiculous that any type of media would do this (I believe the show runners of West World tweaked the finale of season 1 before of theorists) because most consumers don't read or are even aware of any of this.
@araleiasper 7 ай бұрын
At the end of last year, I was able to use this video and the film theory video "How Star Wars Theories KILLED Star Wars: The Last Jedi!" for my graduation IRP. It was really cool to be able to use my favorite channel(s)'s videos for such an important paper and I learned a ton. It's not everyday that you explain the search trends of Among Us in APA format after discussing JJ Abrams' controversial Mystery Box 😆 Thank you MatPat and the theorist gang for making these awesome videos, paving the way for many others to be creative and theorize themselves.
@Sheeprampage 2 жыл бұрын
Theories make games so much more fun! But i do feel like some games do try to change things after seeing theories
@III-kk8rp 2 жыл бұрын
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@III-kk8rp 2 жыл бұрын
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@GriffinZambia 2 жыл бұрын
Dont read my name!!..
@Mr.Djagent6060 2 жыл бұрын
Read my name❤️
@sumitahsan8032 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I watch your videos and I'm a fan
@jricket1 2 жыл бұрын
"Let us be right" and "I KNEW IT!" are rules for DMs running D&D tables too. Sure, make twists, but then keep your clues going in that same direction. Don't punish the players for being clever.
@lianaverwood9810 2 жыл бұрын
...unless they take it too far, and become smartasses - that's your cue to start messing with them...
@Storm_drain_Enjoyer 2 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about dungeons and dragons
@lacrossestick132 2 жыл бұрын
YES! I’ve had so man DMs switch up the story last minute and pull twists out of nowhere just to throw us off because we got too close to figuring it out.
@Lovehandels 2 жыл бұрын
@@lacrossestick132 Yeah I've heard some D&D horror stories about that.
@ultimazilla9814 2 жыл бұрын
If I become a game developer, I will have a FIXED lore that is pretty complicated and I am actually thinking of it but the timeline is confusing
@DavetheAf 5 ай бұрын
matpat never fails to jumpkick us
@octopusjacket3472 11 ай бұрын
As a Venezuelan, and a huge fan of Drossrotzant, I absolutely love that mat had mentioned his work and the impact it had on the topic
@dionettaeon 2 жыл бұрын
So, essentially what I'm hearing is that, in a desperate attempt to be unpredictable, some developers panic and lose sight of their own game's congruity.
@cheemslopez7084 2 жыл бұрын
Auhgg
@Ka1ven 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much
@KamalAdnanTheFirst 2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!!
@rutyqutykandi1361 2 жыл бұрын
That's how I felt about batim.
@MrFilgueiras. 2 жыл бұрын
Not really to be unpredictable, sometimes the dev is just pressured into making a more convoluted story just because of the theorists' spectation
@thatoneothergamer6158 Жыл бұрын
0:11 "the game was unpolished, glitchy and nothing like how we predcited" me: do you know how little that narrows it down?!
@omaradel210 5 ай бұрын
What is it
@bgdy-pw8xj 5 ай бұрын
Hello neighbour?
@dr.doctor5099 8 ай бұрын
I can also understand the developers vision of loosing that sparks when you think your gonna make a story snd slowly others will leatn about it, just to have everything already predicted after like 2 updates or before its even out, youd be like... oh, so much for the build up. But on the otherside, as RR martin said, just build your story you want and planned it.
@lachlanokeefe8020 2 жыл бұрын
thinking about your conclusion, game devs should do something like Alex Hirsch, creator of Gravity Falls. When fans found his big secret, he did not change his conclusion, he gave something which did not affect the story at all, but gave fans enough doubt about their conclusion that they still felt the effect of a shocking reveal.
@blankiecat9302 2 жыл бұрын
I mean he did change some thing like added the whole zodiac wich was not important intill fans wanted it to be important so he felt he had to add it in at the last minute so they felt sadifided
@PneumaAsh 2 жыл бұрын
Can you remind me what that bait and switch was?
@lucky6961 2 жыл бұрын
and we got a lot of interpretations too, like having Stanley being sure Gideon was a fraud by not knowing his real name, the story always felt consistent
@thetinykid4169 2 жыл бұрын
@@PneumaAsh It was an orchestrated leak by Alex Hirsch and his team where he produced an image of old man mcgucket being the real journal writer. They even took it down an hour after it was posted to make the leak seem more real.
@hellotoyoutoo3623 2 жыл бұрын
@@PneumaAsh the old mcguffin i think his name was the 6 fingers it showed up then deleted immediately.
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 2 жыл бұрын
I can imagine actual game developers out there watching MatPat, just hoping he doesn’t cover the project they’re working on, so the entire lore and backstory isn’t revealed to the public, just because MatPat saw a 15 second advertisement of it.
@GriffinZambia 2 жыл бұрын
Dont read my name!!😑.
@SirHimothyMcHe 2 жыл бұрын
Wow nice fake check mark there scammer. EDIT: To clear up confusion this comment is about @The Game Shorts
@avrageshocktrooperfan42 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry your comment I filled with bots
@mvl666_darkrio 2 жыл бұрын
Report the bots.
@armageddongirl612 2 жыл бұрын
you know what, jsgwoam, you honestly deserve all these bots in your replies for being so obnoxious in every comment section and leaving comments on videos before even 10 seconds passed.
@FormerlyEpicjcat 7 ай бұрын
Its actually really fun when a theory is completly wrong
@asbdowasduwagibberish4700 9 ай бұрын
mat is so obsessed with theories that he made a theory involving his own theories that theorify the games that he discusses for the theory.
@HoweverMayor 2 жыл бұрын
I'd rather have a great predicted story than a "twist" ending that's nonsensical and forced.
@thebonfireofgains 2 жыл бұрын
GoT anyone?
@criticalblaster458 2 жыл бұрын
Any examples? Sounds like an interesting topic
@dodiezero 2 жыл бұрын
@@criticalblaster458 star wars ep 7-9?? not sure cuz I haven't properly saw theories predicting it or its really just lazy writing & bad executions.
@mr.holodoc7406 2 жыл бұрын
That's because- every theorist leaves less and less possibilities for big surprises. Just imagine if Bioshock Fans early on said that Atlas would betray you and be Fontain. Then there wouldn't be that great twist, but just a shell that needs something new and better. Problem is: If the Game has allready build upon that early idea, then- you practically have to to it all over.
@psychophate 2 жыл бұрын
@@criticalblaster458 Last of Us 2: The revenge plot that doesn't end in actual revenge
@AroWolfArts 2 жыл бұрын
The theories don't kill the games, it's the writer/producers killing it by doing stupid last minute changes because they value "subverting the audiences expectation" or just suprising the audience way too high. It's the exact same with written stories like books and the like.
@shekosheko4504 2 жыл бұрын
Whykzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLmDecqI0arGeok.html..
@GriffinZambia 2 жыл бұрын
Dont read my name!!..
@veto_5762 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh the bots
@landreeallen86 2 жыл бұрын
Subvert their expectations by bot subverting their expectations and just keeping the game the same.
@Galaxy-rj1kj 2 жыл бұрын
Matpat is killing the games
@Reddluv2 7 ай бұрын
I love how scott watches game theory and he goes in and changed stuff to make it even better but like well try to make it better like with the box u could’ve change what is in the box but make it better
@cjthenarhwalking1378 5 ай бұрын
Yes and that is this done write, will parts of the fnaf lore contradict what came before it never made the games and story completely fall apart. Security breach had a cohesive story that fit with the lore but steel wool wanted a suprise ending.
@anemiropenguin2241 7 ай бұрын
Getting a theory on your game by matpat is a huge jumpkick
@Kale6196 2 жыл бұрын
To all the game developers out there, Matpat is right. Don’t worry about us finding out the lore of your games before you’re ready to release it all; it’s what makes the game fun. Finding out we were right about FNAF (in some cases) made it all the more exciting. It gives us something to talk about and reminisce over, it builds communities and friendships (from what I’ve seen, FNAF kids always migrate together). And at the end of the day, it’s nice find yourself correct about something.
@nickter745thebold8 2 жыл бұрын
…It most certainly does not.
@a_d3mon 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickter745thebold8 that's your opinion. I like it when a theory I formulated turns out to be right... Doesn't make me stop the movie/game I'm watching/playing. In fact it encourages me to play even more.
@EspeonMistress00 2 жыл бұрын
@@a_d3mon I feel this guy is generally not a theoriser of any media and doesn't like it. He is harping ab the same "why theories are bad" points in every reply on the top comments
@Saitaina 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. We keep coming back to FNaF PRECISELY Bec each new game gives us more bits and pieces. A theory or head canon can NEVER replace the next part.
@akira8393 2 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah sure buddy, i doubt that
@silhouette_chr 2 жыл бұрын
The funniest damage control ive seen a creator did when their fans' theories predicted the story was with Alex Hirsch with the author reveal. Some fans figured out that (spoilers) the author was Stan's twin brother and to salvage the climax Alex faked a photo "leak" with a single frame of McGucket writing the journal behind him and posted it to reddit- Like mans willing to troll his entire fanbase just for the reveal 😭 but at least he didnt double down and do a last minute change. The author was still Ford and i appreciate that
@deluxeedition4639 2 жыл бұрын
alex hirsch is a god
@TameHook128 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but in Dungeons, Dungeons, & More Dungeons (S2 E13) they made a gag that the whole twist of Ducktective was that he had a twin brother all along, and then the characters argue how predictable the twist was. Alex Hirsch played 4D chess with the fandom like Bill did with Ford. 😂
@exudeku 2 жыл бұрын
Alex used one of the oldest trick in making pursuers scramble: red herrings
@dogecoin9562 2 жыл бұрын
The reveal of Ford was so damn satisfying after seeing all the theories develop over the course of the show
@silversprint1213 2 жыл бұрын
it was funny but what sucks is when they actually do change the script when it could be best the way it was
@jstar2332 3 ай бұрын
who else is here after the announcement of him leaving 😭
@yellowstarproductions6743 3 ай бұрын
I am.
@alanna1422 8 ай бұрын
1:01 the music :awesome The intro: awesome The editing : awesome The video: AWESOME AWESOME!!!!
@mayosanta 2 жыл бұрын
As a writer, seeing people's reactions to a twist is always satisfying. As a consumer, guessing a twist before it happens is always satisfying. Please, writers, realise that you're making something with the primary intent of being enjoyable to an audience. If you get angry and change things when they do something that will make them happy, you're doing a bad job.
@lordvkef5843 2 жыл бұрын
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@user-fp3le7mp3p 2 жыл бұрын
I think the worse part about this is alot of them who actively have a issue put out the clues like a Easter egg hunt. They set the eggs can't really get angry when someone finds them.
@pancakes8670 2 жыл бұрын
The thing about twists is they have to make sense. If your audience ends up seeing it coming, then oh well. Don't hard U turn and start going down the Interstate backwards
@loveliiikuromi3557 2 жыл бұрын
Jumpkick
@kukuhimanputraraharja8084 2 жыл бұрын
there's also some writers out there who writes just for themselves. only sharing it with others just because they just want to share without thinking too much about it, whether it appease the audience or not.
@readysetgameover9977 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 100% convinced that Scott has changed the fnaf lore like 50 times just to spite matpat.
@westtexas_4491 2 жыл бұрын
yeah and that's extremely frustrating because, objectively, the fnaf story is pretty bad now. it's messy, it accidentally contradicts itself, and it could've been so much better if Scott just told the story instead of trying to keep fans guessing.
@samefornever5637 2 жыл бұрын
@@westtexas_4491 You also have to remember that the fans hated the original direction the lore was headed (it was all a dream), so Scott wanted to change the lore to make the fanbase happy. That is where you get the majority of your contradicting lore points. The story itself isn’t actually that bad, it just gets so confusing at points that you lose sight of the pieces you’ve already collected and placed together. This best way I can explain the lore: It’s like a tangled clump of yarn, you can see one end that’s connected to the nicely packaged yarn and the other is lost in the clump. You can’t untangle it from one end so you try to find the other end of the yarn. FNaF is a lot like that. The original, neatly packaged story wasn’t well liked so Scott changed it, creating this clump of yarn, but it’ll be all the more satisfying when we finally find that other end, that missing piece and are able to unravel the story.
@ice-choco-Icecream 2 жыл бұрын
Im kinda convinced otherwise? I feel like the majority of FNAF's lore was shaped by the fandom lol
@moonlightgarden1921 2 жыл бұрын
I mean yeah, not all of the first 7 games plot points make the most sense, but also keep in mind that writing a story in this style is probably decently difficult to make. I don't mind there being 1 or 2 small plot points that don't really fit, because the story makes sense in the bigger picture.
@justsomeguywithaplan971 2 жыл бұрын
@@westtexas_4491 well. It purposely contradicts it's self. It has like 3 timelines.
@calicoisgoober 8 ай бұрын
Love my boy superhorrorbro getting some representation
@galaxystarmau_official 7 ай бұрын
theorist making games: maybe i can do this i wannna get a video on it me: i hope i don't get a video on this. matpat: indie games are indie games we might cover them.
@BanditGames 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. This one hit hard. The infamous delays to Breath of the Wild’s sequel came to mind after I watched this, which is a game that has been heavily theorized over, and of course the messy lore of Security Breach which was also talked about in the video. What a great message, I hope it ripples throughout the game developer world. Theorizing fans are excited fans, and excited fans keep communities alive.
@visoth7791 2 жыл бұрын
It's my theory that BOTW2 was delayed because of what the devs saw from FromSoftware. They wanted to add Elden Ring gameplay aspects to BOTW. Wouldn't be surprised if we get a whole underground region. And if I am right, they probably were originally only intending a "sky region" addition.
@hollowshield2315 2 жыл бұрын
Bandit! hey, love your theories
@shrekecomment8056 2 жыл бұрын
@@hollowshield2315 ikrkzfaq.info/get/bejne/l5eabNKop9vblIU.html
@Decimator_517 2 жыл бұрын
I was literally thinking about this too🤣
@irishmanfromengland25 2 жыл бұрын
woah! I didn't expect to be seeing you here.
@TheKnocturne 2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to fan guessing the plot twists it's often not a "ugh that was so easy to guess" the reaction is more often "yes I actually guessed it"
@taizomichael7294 Жыл бұрын
Exhibit A: MUUUUSSIC MAAAAAAN
@MossMothMyBeloved Жыл бұрын
@Emily An Do what Alex Hirsch (Creator of Gravity Falls) did and create a fake leak.
@tazdivil6527 Жыл бұрын
@@taizomichael7294yes. That’s a perfect example of that kinda “Hell yeah! I got it” reaction
@samarthgoel5835 8 ай бұрын
I CALLED IT , I FREAKIN CALLED IT
@TRG_R17 7 ай бұрын
Reply 5, hmm
@CHICO-bw8hs 7 ай бұрын
i think someone should do the literature theorists for written works like comics and novels
@Hollow2035 7 ай бұрын
Matpat: im gonna JUMPKICK that hello neighbor theory idea
@therandomscout6590 2 жыл бұрын
Game devs are either: "Dammit, this guy spoiled the twist! We need to change it now!" or "We already have an original plot but this theory is more interesting."
@thebois9152 2 жыл бұрын
spam jumpkick now you wont regrt
@Foxygrandpa1912 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was a real jumpkick of an observation
@thearcanehunter2736 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the latter is genuinely fine. It comes out more interesting, though if the theory was flawed it may make it worse.
@huzaifahahmed4303 2 жыл бұрын
Neither feels like a trend they should follow tbh
@aaauuguhu9048 2 жыл бұрын
Or: we don't have real lore we just make it seem like it for more popularity so let's pretend this is what we were thinking all along
@zachattackgaming3066 2 жыл бұрын
Matpat: ARE MY THEORIES KILLING GAMES? Also Matpat: *makes a theory about it*
@nothing4youhere540 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe making a theory about killing games with theories will kill the game of making theories about games. It's like a very meta seppuku.
@bicyclesonthemoon 2 жыл бұрын
@@nothing4youhere540 I wanted to make a reply to the comment which basically says the same: "It totally makes sense: If making theory about games kills games then making theory about killing games kills killing games. perfect!" But when I logged in to write it I noticed you already did 1 minute before."
@einekartoffel2490 2 жыл бұрын
@@bicyclesonthemoon No more Danganronpa and Among Us? :,( /j
@Xyb3rAnims 2 жыл бұрын
BIG BRAIN
@panjinurfadillah2489 2 жыл бұрын
A theory in a theory that's like 16 *Theory*
@BossMr51 8 ай бұрын
coming back to this video after ruin, and it seems steel wool at least, listened, everyone assumed it was the mimic, and it was. and while. ruins still a tadbit weird. it feels far more like what security breach was meant to be, vs what we got.
@fandomfancallie1446 9 ай бұрын
I got an ad of this guy and the first thing he said is that I was watching a game theory video, cool but, slightly freaky
@animeking5068 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Matpat was only able to predict the plots because the developers had put clues in the game that led to it
@Chillipeffer 2 жыл бұрын
OMG!!!!
@ondiiina 2 жыл бұрын
It literally shows that they did their job right so there's no shame in the story being predicted
@pedroberti1588 2 жыл бұрын
Like how Disney had to refilm Rogue One because he got right the Kylo Ren soldiers 🤫
@roaringthunder115 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@voltrex7661 2 жыл бұрын
Do you expect to form a theory with no evidence 😂😂😂
@bacaestrife3615 2 жыл бұрын
I am gonna say that if game developers ARE changing their lore last minute around what you're doing, that's just poor decision making on their part. Rushed last minute changes are always gonna be worse than the actual story you were going to go with, fulfilling audience expectations isn't a bad thing, and fact is, if someone watched a theory video and spoiled the game for themselves, that's on them. Like listening to fan feed back is one thing, but changing everything around so it's a surprise, is just a bad idea.
@yourshoulderdevil5229 2 жыл бұрын
You're right and you should say it.
@nickter745thebold8 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t tell an interesting and compelling story if everyone expecting it has already figured it out. If that happened, I’d be severely upset and angry, before scrapping the entire story and just abandoning it altogether. I’m not wasting my life making something amazing, only for a theorist to figure it all out and ruin the atmosphere the story is supposed to set.
@Mr.Djagent6060 2 жыл бұрын
Read my name!
@Amodh1257 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickter745thebold8 this ^^^^^^
@Troll_vs. 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickter745thebold8 well to bad. Lore speculation existed before mat and will continue after him. If it can be guessed before you release it then it might not as interesting and compelling as you think.
@user-kq3zn4tz7b 4 ай бұрын
We also see this alot with Call of Duty, the fans don't get listened to and yet at launch every year their retail prices are the same depending on which edition you get. Do you really get more or is that just a marketing plea. Call of Duty is based on wars and combat, Something that is very real in our world. That's probably why it has the age rating that it has. Maybe it predicted the future with three games, Advanced Warfare, Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 and Infinite Warfare. I'm certain that actually going into war is way different than experiencing it in your own home. That probably explains why you don't have any videos of the sort. But continue what you are doing MatPat. I don't mean to do any harm to this channel because its fan-tastic. Im a fan btw if you got that joke. Ill admit that before I wasn't subscribed before this but watched your fnaf theory videos❤. I can't even tell you how many times I've watched the fnaf movie. You made a cameo! You are awesome! Edit: Okay I literally searched up and you do have videos on Call of Duty! Edit: Oh my, I'll just stick with your regular theory's. Hopefully I didn't spark anything 🙄🤐.
@KoiiDaBoii 5 ай бұрын
your videos are always a great jumpkick to my morning (idk what that word means)
@stormaurora1985 2 жыл бұрын
When I started watching Game Theory, I was around 12 or 13 years old, and I thought that it would be the coolest thing if I made a game that MatPat could make a theory about. Now I'm a college graduate with a degree in game programming and I still think it would be the coolest thing if I made a game that MatPat could make a theory about. I'd be super excited to have something in my game correctly predicted by theorists!
@justacommenterno.7700 2 жыл бұрын
That's interesting to know! Maybe I could play one of your games someday :D
@crystalcat1002 2 жыл бұрын
I'd play your games if my device was compatible with Steam D:
@FleaOnMyWiener 2 жыл бұрын
@@crystalcat1002 what device?
@Itsrunzo 2 жыл бұрын
Remind me when you make a cool game
@eeveebrosstudios1896 2 жыл бұрын
SAME HERE!!!
@abid5087 2 жыл бұрын
when devs change something last minute to "subvert expectations" or whatever, it just hurts the fans. and it hurts hard like a jumpkick the face
@nickter745thebold8 2 жыл бұрын
Opinionated.
@tomorrowisyesterday3215 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you just did there
@purnimakasiraju.9954 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomorrowisyesterday3215 r/beatmetoit
@davidarvingumazon5024 2 жыл бұрын
As a Minecraft fan think about this, Minecraft Lore had got to be hardest thing to be theory for Matpat. Minecraft has such a massive creative community, also there's simply too many ideas could be added to the game and lore, making it unpredictable. But WB's Minecraft Movie without Steve as protagonist is disappointing. T_T
@noheffthing 2 жыл бұрын
The devs are still awesome
@Entxty. Жыл бұрын
So my hulu keeps unpausing for no reason so when you said "Lemon party" it started the JJBA part 3 intro. it was hilarious. So funny I almost jumpkicked someone
@Toomanypeopleinthishouse 5 ай бұрын
now that im thinking about it how do you feel about the fnaf story so far and what are the things u dont like about it and if u had a choice to change the roles of characters or story how would u do it
@m-rots 2 жыл бұрын
I think Gravity Falls does theory baiting perfectly. It leaves plenty of clues, some obvious and some not, for the viewer so that it's a fun experience for everyone. If that comes at the cost of some hardcore theorists figuring it out, that's okay! They even joke about that with one of the biggest twists in the series.
@alexcoffey8804 2 жыл бұрын
"Hardcore Theorists" are some of your most loyal fans. I can't understand when a lot of stories want to punish them with unforeshadowed asspull twists.
@cityofnewjack 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexcoffey8804 (i assume) its cuz storywriters(storycrafters? cuz video games too?) either get angry that their hard work is seemingly going to waste because fans figure out the story, and then after that the writer changes the ending as one last "ha see you never saw this twist coming!!!( ͡0 ͜ʖ ͡0)" to try and get that reaction from the audience that they feel like they lost. What also could be happening is the author worrying that the fanbase would be dissapointed, and surely some of them would be, having expected a twist and then feeling robbed of that feeling of piecing the twist together in their head, just because they watched a youtube video and because they worry about those fans' dissapointment, it leads to them changing the twist or mystery last second to avoid that problem, ultimately leading to a rushed story
@r.omantiholic 2 жыл бұрын
yes! gravity falls, steven universe, the owl house, these types of shows (and in turn stories) are always the best because they plant the clues for you to figure out then when it's revealed it feels so much better than a "wow plot twist that you never saw" because it feels like it fits more and makes more sense in the universe we follow along with
@zapzap1485 2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean series at whole or just the McGucket leak incident?
@SphoenixBlue Жыл бұрын
I miss Gravity Falls so much 🥺 nothing has replaced it for me.
@colekiesler6218 2 жыл бұрын
Matpat 2014: “Let’s solve a series of haunted animatronics.” Matpat 2022: “What was in the box again?”
@questionister 2 жыл бұрын
These bots
@temmie5960 2 жыл бұрын
Did we ever find out what was in the box?
@mothichorror446 2 жыл бұрын
@@temmie5960 nope. Never brought up again.
@rotprotectorofrateria8042 2 жыл бұрын
@DONTCLICK shut shut it shut
@massiveidiot77 2 жыл бұрын
It might have been a Robotic version of the crying child
@pran_dog8301 Жыл бұрын
I just want to jumpkick out. By hearing that the companies are changing their games by watching fan theories.😢
@VictorTheDrabit 9 ай бұрын
And that's why I'm going to do what I wanted to do with my game. Do what I wanted in it.
@applewarrior1529 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, its a real jumpkick to the face when devs rush a game so the ending doesnt make sense
@andrewcoburn6519 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you did sir. *gives golf clap*
@systemdoesmusic 2 жыл бұрын
*joins in on golf clap*
@mononyon2537 2 жыл бұрын
also joins in golf clap
@notexpected7439 2 жыл бұрын
Also joins in the golf claps
@Jax0nian 2 жыл бұрын
Also joins in the golf clap
@heresywithana 2 жыл бұрын
Mat has finally reached the "Are we the bad guys" level of doing theories.
@thedeepabyss5754 2 жыл бұрын
@DONTCLICK shut up
@wariodude128 2 жыл бұрын
Weed-chan... are we the baddies?
@kylepalmer9094 2 жыл бұрын
"Am I the drama?"
@averagegenzguy2751 2 жыл бұрын
@@wariodude128 "Weed, come on, it's all behind us. Let us blow it all out of proportion. Why not? I say we we can't have interesting games NO-ONE, no-one can."
@OmegaQuinn 2 жыл бұрын
He reached that back when Fnaf 4 came out and he did his 800th video on fnaf
@NoobTiki 8 ай бұрын
I would never do what matpat tells me not to… Jumpkick
@John83118 3 ай бұрын
This piece is quite remarkable; akin to a book I found equally enthralling. "Game Theory and the Pursuit of Algorithmic Fairness" by Jack Frostwell
@sigull4192 2 жыл бұрын
Not entirely theorists fault but it sucks that this happens and games studios just need to stick with what they have and finish it
@deepmind5318 2 жыл бұрын
Not at all theorist's fault, because the developer has layed out most of the pieces for them. FNAF Security Breach was working off of hints that creator Scott Cawthon had already put out in previous games and in trailers. We especially know this happened, because the game has almost no Lore, what little story there is, is messy, doesn't make sense, and the gameplay doesn't fit. The creator admitting that he has done this is the final nail in the coffin.
@khatunamezvrishvili6211 2 жыл бұрын
Not entirely? More like not at all their fault.
@noheffthing 2 жыл бұрын
Games studios are better than yters
@TheRealMagicMan 2 жыл бұрын
fr
@ricardoperezjr574 2 жыл бұрын
Hey do you mind doing a theory on evertale?
@SomeBlackGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on the consumer. I stay away from spoilers as much as possible. My close friend however, dives DEEP and wants to know everything before whatever is it comes out, so he loves any and all theories!
@asaelpaniagua 2 жыл бұрын
My name's Tom sweeny and I....
@dhilan_yt9412 2 жыл бұрын
@@asaelpaniagua huh?
@asaelpaniagua 2 жыл бұрын
@@dhilan_yt9412 probably better that you don't know
@clownymoosebean 2 жыл бұрын
Keith David?
@loveliiikuromi3557 2 жыл бұрын
Jumpkick
@N2013J Жыл бұрын
there is a new add in merge mantion that is live action
@Mr_StickboyThird 10 ай бұрын
Just Underrated Monthly Perfect! Kicking Information Contest King!
@themaskedcrusader 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an author. In one of my creative writing courses in college, my professor basically drilled home the idea that was highlighted by George R.R. Martin in this video clip: When the twist happens in your story, don't make it an unexpected twist. When the reader reads the twist, they should say to themselves "I should have seen that coming" because you (the author) laid out the clues before. Crazy storyline twists without clues don't trigger the reader's dopamine response and make the story fall flat. Apparently that's the same thing with video games.
@lame-o693 2 жыл бұрын
That makes sense
@extremesandvich9346 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Thank you for making this comment.
@luketfer 2 жыл бұрын
If only the TV show writers saw that for Game of Thrones season 8...aka 'needless unsatisfying plot twists: the season'.
@mr.holodoc7406 2 жыл бұрын
But if someone, before you even released the Book says "this and that will be the big twist" then- Well, you gotta think of something better, because you don't want to have that big reaction/suprise. And that is the Problem. If you corner a Dev/Writer of the Possibilites of a Twist, then yeah- it'll be bad.
@takkycat 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best twisty series in my opinion is Gravity Falls. Watchers were rewarded for solving the twists and it was very satisifying!
@enderking_13 2 жыл бұрын
“And if you don’t want to include any real lore at all, fine, I’ll still be here claiming it’s a prequel to earth bound anyways” the most accurate game theory quote
@IEatSignificantAmountsOfAss 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Matpat owns the Sans is Ness meme and doesn't shy away from it is pretty respectable. A lot of others would try and hide their past lunacy and just prove the Streisand effect to be real.
@GREEKPLAYER64 2 жыл бұрын
@keep rolling at
@jeffjeff9037 2 жыл бұрын
But at that point, wouldn't that mean lore exists whether the developers want it there or not?
@beashemmad.sayson545 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffjeff9037 i mean yh, but at the end of the day, they’re just theories
@beashemmad.sayson545 2 жыл бұрын
@@IEatSignificantAmountsOfAss what’s the streisand effect
@scruffy910 8 ай бұрын
i miss the old intro, the nostalgia hit me hard
@narrator-bf 9 ай бұрын
man what if sonic's legs did a JUMPKICK ( matpat you used a hard word to make a joke about )
@KaptainKuba 2 жыл бұрын
This is a really interesting topic that I frankly never gave it much thought lol
@yuseixp3058 2 жыл бұрын
نفسي اشوفك والله انك صادق والله انك صادق والله انك صادق والله
@Wesmin2 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the translation of that comment isn't perfect.
@bojafar8870 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wesmin2 it actually is
@tanishqpathak2712 2 жыл бұрын
Yo Kaptain Kuba, big fan
@KaptainKuba 2 жыл бұрын
@@tanishqpathak2712 thank you for watching 😉
@CrocBoi14 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with mat with the “let us have something” line. If you are watching a murder mystery-type film, it obviously has clues leading to the culprit and as with any puzzle, there is someone who will put the pieces together. If someone figures out who the culprit is, do they just stop playing the movie? No, of course not
@shikoshiko1210 2 жыл бұрын
Whykzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLmDecqI0arGeok.html..
@zodycoder 2 жыл бұрын
perfect comparison
@futurelazarus8217 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great comparison like why would they leave clues if you dont want us to solve it
@localhdmain6306 2 жыл бұрын
It would be funny if out of no where someone screams "Oh the pizza delivery guy did it" and the movie just fast forwarded to the credits
@eatyourcreal9365 2 жыл бұрын
@@localhdmain6306 ikrkzfaq.info/get/bejne/l5eabNKop9vblIU.html
@DudeJFlames 8 ай бұрын
lemons jumpkicking parties, there you go, a technical truth (the best kind of truth)
@prathitprasad 7 ай бұрын
Feels like centuries since I heard the Acid Usagi theme 🤤🤤
@teeleaf9252 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like sometimes developers forget that the whole point of leaving these clues and hints is for us to piece them together as the story goes on and it sucks ,because the feeling of calling something out before it happens isn't out of superiority ,but it makes you feel like you truly understand and appreciate the work put into this and when writers or artists or developers actually follow through or fulfill that end it feels like a little nod from them to us like *I'm glad you got here* it is 1000000 times better than them changing it for us to be wrong, because then what are we even here for?
@roberttheronin9803 2 жыл бұрын
For mr Bone's wild ride
@eatyourcreal9365 2 жыл бұрын
@@roberttheronin9803 okkzfaq.info/get/bejne/l5eabNKop9vblIU.html
@squadnft5176 2 жыл бұрын
@@eatyourcreal9365 yesss🔥🔥🔥
@shrekecomment8056 2 жыл бұрын
@@eatyourcreal9365 yessir🔥🔥🔥
@r3bel758 2 жыл бұрын
As a fanfic writer, I'm usually ecstatic when someone figures out the next plotpoint I'm introducing. It makes me happy knowing that it makes sense, and it makes them happy knowing they got it right. Companies shouldn't be changing the plots of their stories and games just because someone predicted them, and it always sucks when the Internet goes "oh! we figured this out!" so the story gets thrown into the trash.
@LeuBlue 2 жыл бұрын
So true haha
@ooi97 2 жыл бұрын
More than that, these companies don't take into account that their plot is going to become known anyway and it will have to defend itself from scrutiny for years to come.
@Smiuley 2 жыл бұрын
Same, I do write original work and if I have a plot twist, I want to achieve an "Omg that makes so much sense" moment, but a "I knew it!" is just as great. The worst is if it doesn't make sense from a reader's perspective or if the clues haven't been laid out properly
@nickter745thebold8 2 жыл бұрын
It would make me absolutely furious if someone figured out what I was writing and I’d be forced to restart everything from scratch. It ticks me off like you wouldn’t believe.
@djsanders4813 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickter745thebold8 Why would you have to restart? That's just overly insecure.
@oldmanjankens1618 8 ай бұрын
mans the only guy who would think he shot someone in the leg see the problem and do it again
@mdfalcon2665 9 ай бұрын
20:52 "ruin" "11" so it was fnaf SB , steel wool ceo , 11 is for the times Scott changed his plans but heeeey it's just a coincidence , a coincidence theeeeeory
@nozo7325 2 жыл бұрын
Matt Burnett, from Steven Universe, actually said something interesting about this type of thing : "'I knew it!' Is always better than 'I didn't see that coming.' It's a much more rewarding experience to be right." It's sad that most games of this genre always try to surprise us, when really, getting something right is just as nice as being surprised.
@ethan5915 2 жыл бұрын
the best games do both--and do the "I didn't see that coming" with things that have actually been hinted about and could be figured out if you were smart/pieced together everything.
@ExarchGaming Жыл бұрын
@@ethan5915 I agree, Bioshock is an incredible example of the latter. the pure essence of "whoa I didn't see that coming"
@Mephilis78 Жыл бұрын
This is part of why The Last Jedi sucks, making completely universe breaking twists simply because the fans would never expect it, is cheap and dumb. Edit: capitalized "sucks" instead of "the" for some reason. Glad I read my comments after I hit send lol
@jeffjeff9037 5 ай бұрын
I think the issue is that when the viewer watches the video and the product echoes it, it's no longer surprising because the viewer didn't have to think about it.
@AlphahawkA25 5 ай бұрын
Just look at how happy MatPat was when he saw the Security Breach trailer
@kevinl4837 2 жыл бұрын
To all game developers: As much as we like twists into the story, we also like getting our theories correct.
@TheNovemberain71 2 жыл бұрын
100% true
@redbomb6797 2 жыл бұрын
Well thats a jumpkick.
@shrekecomment8056 2 жыл бұрын
@@redbomb6797 okkzfaq.info/get/bejne/l5eabNKop9vblIU.html
@tealablu3759 2 жыл бұрын
If there’s a twist, we want it to make sense. We NEED it to make sense! Otherwise the ending isn’t satisfying. Whether we got it right or wrong is whatever, but MAKE IT MAKE SENSE, MAMA!!!
@dadeamatic3772 2 жыл бұрын
@@tealablu3759 Right? It’s more fun to realize it was an error in judgement than to realize there was no point in trying at all
@Sheithan 11 ай бұрын
Drossito appeared in a GT video and I didn't even know, I really should watch this channel more often.
@Gerald22222 8 ай бұрын
6:18 ok matpat you don’t get to take credit for that.
@BeansOnButter 2 жыл бұрын
Matpat: That's JUST A THEORY Everybody: No.. no that's straight-up fact, you right
@Toy_freddyofficial1 2 жыл бұрын
This is sadly true even for the dumb theories that are not confirmed.
@Marshall.R 2 жыл бұрын
@@Toy_freddyofficial1 no, in those cases the entire internet gets out their pitchforks and banishes him to the shadow realm
@stakezen7825 2 жыл бұрын
@@Toy_freddyofficial1 Hollow Knight, Sans is Ness
@Toy_freddyofficial1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Marshall.R unless it's fnaf cough cough gregory is a robot.
@Toy_freddyofficial1 2 жыл бұрын
@@stakezen7825 just read what I said to the other guy
@InsideAMindInsideAMind 2 жыл бұрын
A great video. I personally see a similar problem in ARG's/web series too. I think a lot of creators worry about revealing too much to the point fans might stop talking about their work. The influence of videos like these and how we consume media has been fascinating to me this past year. Glad to see your coverage on this too.
@newthejsterjacob408 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh Inside a Mind, I love you and I agree with your point, but I do love the videos you make
@polkadotjohnson 2 жыл бұрын
When two channels you love interact it's almost as pretty as an eclipse
@newthejsterjacob408 2 жыл бұрын
@@polkadotjohnson very true and very poetic
@aubreyterry9453 2 жыл бұрын
I love your channel!
@gealachmidnight6614 2 жыл бұрын
Omg hi IAM
@user-ml8cp7dm3i 8 ай бұрын
If i was a developer : i wouldn't reveal ANYTHING NOT ANY TRAILER NOT ANY SNEAK PEAK, so the game would come smooth and surprising.
@w.afton2848sp 4 ай бұрын
MatPat became the man(+ the team) behind the theories
@nedaraid3372 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, I call this "the Moffat factor" where subverting expectations and "outsmarting" the audience is valued more than actually telling a compelling strory.
@TheOverArchiver 2 жыл бұрын
I call it “the Nolan factor” because of Westworld, but it’s the same premise.
@III-kk8rp 2 жыл бұрын
MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео):. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/maeBq7OE3LOYmGQ.html
@KingsBard 2 жыл бұрын
Still better than Chibnal
@filmandfirearms 2 жыл бұрын
@@III-kk8rp Why is the Tsar of Bulgaria doing an impression of a paper shredder? Assuming Bulgarian Cyrillic is the same as Russian Cyrillic, that is
@nickter745thebold8 2 жыл бұрын
It’s hard to tell a compelling story when everyone else has already figured it out.
@adammarano8264 Жыл бұрын
"If you design a story where the butler did it, and somebody guesses it. You can't just change it to be the maid. It won't make sense and it isn't worth "subverting expectations" if it ruins the story ultimately." Some paraphrased author, probably.
@thatkangajackie1841 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, just the author of Game of Thrones, no biggie
@beProsto Жыл бұрын
@@thatkangajackie1841 ngl i have only heard of that movie like a year ago and neither i nor literally any of my friends still know basically anything about it so i read the "no biggy" very literally 🙃
@GKKNs 9 ай бұрын
19:48 excuse me if i'm wrong but... isn't he playing a mouse and keyboard game with vr controls?
@Mr.Doggo83 9 ай бұрын
What is the game Matpat was talking about in the beginning of the video? I think it's actually security breach. Also, Matpat, I am a nice guy, so I won't say Jumpkick. You are welcome
@realsanmer 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading somewhere that it's ok when your audience figures out the plot twist beforehand; it means the twist is believable and makes sense.
@Roadent1241 2 жыл бұрын
And it's not a bad thing?
@fancyboy3806 2 жыл бұрын
Plot twist should still make sense, it subvert expectations but not change it entirely
@menthols4625 2 жыл бұрын
There's a fine line to balance, if a movie plot is so freaking obvious that the majority guess the plot twist, they won't be happy that it turned out to be such an obvious plot twist, they will think it was boring, but if the movie was pretty deep and complicating so that it took a lot of digging and thinking to figure out the plot twist, then fans would be very happy and satisfied that they figured it out. On the opposite end, if your story is far too complicated and doesn't have coherent hints and foreshadowing, then fans won't like it because it's pointless and impossible to try to figure it out, there's no satisfaction with the conclusion because there was no way to figure it out in the first place. It's a fine line to ride and it isn't easy.
@EspeonMistress00 2 жыл бұрын
That's literally a JJ Martin qoute that's in the video.
@a_d3mon 2 жыл бұрын
@@Roadent1241 Nope
@Astrafurry 2 жыл бұрын
I pray that game company’s will watch this, I feel games like these would be so much better.
@afewofmycommentsarecringy.8646 2 жыл бұрын
emas (read backwards)
@waterandcereal 2 жыл бұрын
I think "that game" was Hello Neighbour...
@tomasbeltran04050 2 жыл бұрын
at least some indie guys will
@brothers4ever768 2 жыл бұрын
HMMMMM YES! PATHFINDER!
@q-miiproductions878 2 жыл бұрын
I'm planning on making a game one day, and I'll take this advice to heart.
@sleepybunny186 3 ай бұрын
We’re really gonna miss you jumpkick …. Wait I mean Matt!
@notactuallyacat. 2 жыл бұрын
If developers/writers don’t want us to solve the mystery, then that begs the question: why did you bother leaving clues?
@akira8393 2 жыл бұрын
it's basically just left for a speculation but when you have a fan that just basically spoiled everything before the big reveal, that's when it becomes a problem
@THEJPIndustry 2 жыл бұрын
So that after the twist the fans can go back/replay and be like omg its foreshadowed here, what an idiot i am for not thinking about this"
@DarkRaikon 2 жыл бұрын
well .... games sell more when you're unsure...
@Predated2 2 жыл бұрын
The better thing to ask is: why did you leave so many clues? Because often enough, if it takes 1 game for the player base to deduce the plottwist as one of the biggest things to happen in the next game, even if it is a plottwist you preferred was kept secret but discoverable on second playthrough, then you simply left too many clues. The key rule to plottwists is to leave out enough evidence to hint at a potential plottwist, but that there is more evidence on the contrary. Again, not too much to a point where it feels like the potential plottwist is being covered up making it more obvious. But just enough red herrings to show there is something is not right, but with enough normality for players to not dig too deep. Let alone that the biggest killer of plottwists is devs adding certain files that can be detected by the second game that have super obvious names. And if someone manages to guess it correctly even against your best efforts to avoid it being revealed, just admit defeat and toss them a bone or easter egg in the update.
@kamieldekoning6639 2 жыл бұрын
@@akira8393 but no one spoiled anything because you don't know if it's right. you will still be excited about a twist even if matpat made a video about it correctly
@TrickyTalon23 2 жыл бұрын
MatPat should have no blame for any of this. At the end of the day, he’s just a fan like us. And we choose to watch his videos and spread his word. We approve of his analysis and ask for more. This is a lot alike his film theory video on the movie “The Lorax” where all the trees get destroyed and it’s not the fault of the man who cut it down, but the population who insistently approved of him doing so for what came from it. Just like MatPat’s situation. One person who took a jump in a different direction than most and ended up with unforeseeable consequences.
@GriffinZambia 2 жыл бұрын
Dont read my name!!😑.
@rocknrepublic9046 2 жыл бұрын
This ^^^ needs to be pinned
@basic_avarage_person 2 жыл бұрын
Might as well say its not muerderer fault but us for exist,after all if we dont exist who the muerderer gonna murder
@Mr.Djagent6060 2 жыл бұрын
Read my name..
@emberlyncrow3704 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Therandomrando007 10 ай бұрын
i dont know if i have said this but you should make a theory on the game symmetry
@PadmalovaelPriyankadevi-mo7nb 7 ай бұрын
i love your theory i one day wanna be a theorist -lovael your biggest fan
@logdinafter383 2 жыл бұрын
When Matpat said "Let us have something" it immediately made me think of MUSIC MAN because the amount of satisfaction from him seeing that he got it right was insane and I think it's a big example of us actually getting something.
@Gooberpotomous 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts as well
@mr.holodoc7406 2 жыл бұрын
But it could've been a much more cooler Character tho. Afterall, it could've been one of Vanny's Constructs. Hell, it could've been a bunch of Robots mixed together.
@FireyJm 2 жыл бұрын
Theories make sure dead games are alive again and makes everyone look into it again.
@InvestmentIdea 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ibZ8n5qGzNzZfHk.html Finally it's here.
@GriffinZambia 2 жыл бұрын
Dont read my name!!😑.
@lolzha8163 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree. Also Damn that's alot of bots
@owyemen9367 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I'm waiting for Matt to do a SoT theory
@hey5929 2 жыл бұрын
Yea when he covers horror games IV never even heard of it makes me think more about the game and wanting to try it
@zaoqsquek 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, MatPat Jumpkick
@TheFourthTower 7 ай бұрын
Jumpkick I'm alredy subscribed
@ItsJustLom 2 жыл бұрын
See, what developers and writers seem to forget, is that if fans are theorizing about your story... it means the fans are *interested.* It means we're paying attention. Don't punish fans for enjoying and being engaged in your story by sabotaging your story just to try and surprise us.
@-Luocha- 2 жыл бұрын
Finally the dumb bots are here. Anyways I agree with what you said
@noheffthing 2 жыл бұрын
Devs are still amazing tho.
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