Matpat in 2013:Willy is innocent Matpat in 2020:Willy is responsible for the extinction of humanity

"Who is Mega Man's TRUE Villain?" Capcom

MatPat: *In later episode* WILY KILLED HUMANITY! MatPat: *here* Wily is innocent!

As a german I am offended! That is a sausage not a Wiener Schnitzel!

"I am more than a robot" Door opens, "My name is Connor. My mission is to deter all deviants, and I always complete my mission."

You know it's a good #GameTheory when people are debating your research, ethics, science fiction, religion, AND which game is the best :) Which #Megaman is YOUR favorite? My choice is 5...Gravity Man FTW!

Actually, did you know that the "DIE WILY!" Dialogue is only in th U.S. version of Mega Man 7? In the original Japanese version, that text is actually just supposed to be "........" It's supposed to be Rock questioning himself. He's basically asking himself "could i really do it? If i could? Should i do it...?" But of course here in the U.S. it had to be cool and edgy, so it was changed to "DIE WILY!"

that scene in MM7 was added only to the NA version in order to make Mega Man seem more edgy

Looks like Dr. Light took Roboethics too... LIGHT-ly.

The Japanese version of Mega Man 7 has Mega Man stop charging his buster after Wily reminds him that he cannot harm humans; which effects this theory significantly, as it suggests Mega Man's immunity to the three laws of Robotics was added in the English version. The stuff with the Mega Man 9 robots still applies, however, but keep in mind that Dr. Wily also modifies them to better suit his needs. The Mega Man X series establishes that the first completely autonomous robot was Mega Man X, establishing that all previous robots at least had some limitation on their autonomy, like the Three Laws (this is why Proto Man is not considered a Reploid like the robots in Mega Man X are).

Anyone else here from his mega man video from like 30 minutes ago? Lol

This part of megaman saying he is more then a robot is changed on the original he stops once willy mentions the laws of robotics

looking at the first robot rule Me: well there goes fnaf

There's few small flaws in your theory, Matt. 1. Dr. Wily is hardly an idiot when it comes to robotics. You make it sound like all he can do is sit back and beg robots to pretty please join him. If that were the case the stages and his fortresses would be empty, and he'd come at you on a bicycle. 2. You made it sound like Dr. Light made all the robot Masters. He only made the first and ninth Batch of Robot Masters himself. Has I recall, the second, fifth and Seventh batches were all made from the ground up by Wily. The third was made by Light and Wily together. The fourth batch was made by Dr. Cossack. The sixth were made by robotic engineers from all over the world and entered in a global competition. The eighth also came from all sorts of different places, such as Clown Man's being an old amusement park attraction, though I don't believe their creators are ever credited none of them were Thomas Light, I'm pretty such. 3. LIGHT'S ROBOT'S CAN'T KILL PEOPLE. Dr. Wily reprograms them and erases the program that prevents them from doing so. Yes this includes Mega Man. That's probably why he's talking so slow he's, trying to go against his programing, and probably wouldn't have been able to. Remember that scene in Robocop, when he tries to kill Dick Jones? Yeah he was a real prick too. But Robocop could not break his programing, and that dude had a Human Brain! It was like that. Mega can point the Buster and threaten. But that's about it. As advance as Mega Man's A.I. was, able to make some choices for himself he was still a slave to his programing. That's what makes X so special. Dr. Light wanted him to be a real person, he wanted a son. So he made something more than a robot, something with complete free will, capable of random thoughts and actions, true autonomy. An absolute variable, hence the name "X". And though he did it begrudgingly, that included the ability to kill people. He knew he had to have that choice for his actions and decisions to have any meaning. If what you're saying is true, then X's existence is pointless because Dr. Light's been pumping these out since day one.

"Robots can't harm humans!" FNaF: LeT Us iNtRoDuCe oUrSeLvEs

Ok so, mega man comics. Please. For my sanity, please know that cut man was built for forest management.

Cutman: Lumber cutting robot Fireman: Incinerator robot Bombman: land excavation robot Protoman: Willing to help anyone. Megaman: Saves the world 11 (12) times. Roll: Not Weaponised MM Death Count: 0

If I remembered correctly, the robots were not created with weapons. They had tools, but are later modified by Wily and turned into weapon grade arsenals. Almost all of the robots were industrial robots, except for Rock, Roll, and Zero. The fact that Wily mentioned that robots cannot harm humans, it means Light must have already had safety protocols similar to Asimov's laws in those other robots, except for Megaman who were meant to be as human as possible. Megaman's statement is actually an assertion of his ability to be able to judge what is right and wrong. Meaning he is not a slave to humanity, but as equals. BTW Asimov's laws are not air tight because a robot cannot judge what is considered harm or injury without very specific parameter. In fact the first law is the problem, because while it prevents a robot rebellion, it will make the robot non-functional quite often, which will be explained below. Okay, let's say I am in a mall with a gun pointed at my head by a lunatic who is about to shoot me. The first law dictates that the robots in the vicinity must help me, but the first law also stated that harming the guy holding a gun to my head is not allowed. Now a normal person with freewill will assess the situation and make a decision. Which decision or whether it is a good decision or not, it doesn't really matter. What matters is that a person with freewill can look at the other decision and say "screw it". However, a robot cannot do such things because it has no freewill due to Asimov's law. Lastly, the example about the autonomous turret. Is that suppose to be horrifying because the turret has freewill, or is it horrifying that it has the ability to kill without human pulling the trigger? Yet, the turret have no freewill and is following programming set by humans, essentially an obedient slave. Freewill is not the issue with that turret, it is how horrifying human beings can be when we act in fear that is the problem. The turret is only doing what we told it to do, and we did not give it freewill to question the orders. Freewill can be good or bad, and if we deem robots as loyal servants, then we first must question ourselves because we are the ones with the freewill to do so, not the robots.

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Anybody else Here Watching This After Learning That Wily Killed All The Humans?

Mega man's true villain is CAPCOM

The scene where Megaman decides to kill Wily actually is covered under Asimov's laws, because there's an unwritten "zeroth" law, which supersedes all the others. "A robot may not harm HUMANITY, or through inaction allow HUMANITY to come to harm." If by killing one man a robot saves many lives, then the robot is not just ALLOWED to do so, it MUST do so. This is a dilemma Asimov himself addressed. So, it's actually possible that Megaman was following the laws of robotics. By killing Wily Megaman could save countless lives, so under the zeroth law he actually is required to kill the man. He's just following his programming.

I do miss Ronnie's editing... And "Digressing and Sidequesting" too... RIP Ronnie.

Who's here from the wily wins one?

One huge flaw: Light never ignored the law. The only reason Protoman can think for himself is due to an error in his system (same reason he ran away too.) Megaman 1's robot masters were built to obay humans and were made as utility robots and had their weapons (And likely robot ethics) modified by Dr. Wily for evil, they originally did nothing dangerous at all.

You're forgetting what I call "Asimov's Loophole": killing the few villains to protect the many innocents. I Robot had this loophole as the major plot point, resulting in the AI gone awry being able to justify EVERY SINGLE ACTION on the Three Laws, without any error in logic!

Can't wait for the next one where you talk about him actually winning at the end

1:24 Here's a German sentence: Aua Das tut weh. (Ouch that hurt)

*Turns to doctor Light* Good work, man. *Claps hands slowly* Good work.

Someone didn't pay attention to the laws of roboethics when creating Aperture Laboratories...

The time has come to discuss Dr.Light's out of control pottery experiments, the real evil of 20XX

Matpat was not kidding this one is OLD

1:15 What about Medic from Team Fortress 2, he clearly isn't drinking bear, he isn't eating prezel's nor weiners. He also isn't nazi, if he was, he wouldn't heal Demoman...

The true enemy is... CAPCOM!!

oof that og intro hit hard. its been a long time

5:57 look at cut man the little angry thing

On the japanese version, he only stays in silence: (..........) after Wily says that robots cannot harm humans.

i love that in the background that when matpat says "is it really his fault?" the cutscene says "of course."

Me: I LATE, QUICK GOTTA THNK OF AN EXUSE!!! Me: if only I got out of the shower earlier..... My friends: you took over a seven year shower? Me: uhm.....yes?

2:17 you should've checked the Japanese version of the game

There is a really good video about Megaman released from Capcom called the Day of Sigma which shows the implementation and development of Megaman. Yeah Protoman just escaping was pretty damn funny. Ehh F@#$ it, I'll jusst build more LOL.

Megaman's true villain is capcom

I think the “Wily is innocent!” in the image was always intended to just be clickbait. What Matpat is saying is Dr. Light is the one to blame for Wily’s rise to power.

Reploid REVO: What Do You Mean Wily Is Innocent?! MatPat: Uh, I Can Explain...

Do you know why Dr. Light made X? He did it to have complete free will on his actions, not before putting him in a 30 years A.I. Test to assure he didn't have homicide thoughts to the human race. All this happening in the end of the Classic Megaman timeline

I wonder when the theory about the double gear system will come out

Just want to point out that the Super aEgis ii requires human confirmation and warns before firing

THE SEVEN YEAR DIFFERENCE OH MY GOD

Game Theory: Done more with Mega Man than Capcom has in years.

OBJECTION! Game Theory, I realize this is merely an entertaining video, but your basis of information is the anomaly that is the English ending of Megaman 7 that most fans don't consider canon because Megaman acts out of character, and it also is different from the original Japanese ending. Before 7's ending and after it, it's repeatedly stated that Megaman is a pacifist FORCED to fight, and yes, clearly bound by the rules of robotics if you look at all the actions he did in every other Megaman classic title. Megaman only wanted to kill Wily in the English version of the game - something added by Capcom USA, not the original creators. In the original Japanese version, he merely threatens Wily, and then when Dr. Wily reminds him that robots cannot harm humans, he lowers his buster and stands down, rather than saying that he's "more than a robot", like in the English version. It's sort of ridiculous to count edits made by a localization team as canon, especially when the original creators never agreed to the changes. Keiji Inafune has stated he was personally displeased with the ending of 7, and even the original threat against Wily was not his doing.

Oh my Goodness he missed Megaman and Bass so there are 12 games when this was posted

Man I remember when this video came out lol I Am an og theorist my first video was dead body's in the companion cubes

Except that the only Robot Masters built by Dr. Light were the ones in 1, joint built with a "reformed' Wily in 3, and 9. The only other person who wasn't wily who built any Robot Masters was Dr. Cossack in MM4....The Robot Masters in 2, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 10 are all Wily's doing.

In Megaman 2, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8, wily built the robot masters himself. Also the doc robots in mm 3

8:22 - 9:51 now i'm scared that judgment day is ACTUALLY inevitable

Yeah but that doesn't make Dr. Wily innocent, that just makes Dr. Light equally guilty.

Fun video, and an interesting little hypothesis. However, there are some problems with it: 1: Dr Light did NOT create all the Robot Masters in each game. Dr Wily created the ones in Mega Man 2, 5, 7, and 8, Dr Cossack created the ones in 4, and several scientists were the creators of the robots in Mega Man 6. Since so many of these robots were made by other people, you can't say that it was all Dr Light's fault that they went on a rampage. And keep in mind, Wily created many of these himself, making him share even more of the responsibility. 2: It is heavily suggested by the overall plot that the type of autonomy Mega Man possesses is unique to him. Notice in the very scene that you use to prove your argument, Wily is shocked that Mega Man is able to decide for himself to blast him.. and this is in Mega Man 7, meaning that a whole lot of time has passed with Wily and Light messing around with robotics. If autonomy was something that all these robots had, why then is Wily surprised that Mega Man was able to make the decision he made? Even more, consider also that the ones in Mega Man 9 were going to accept their fates, and only went with Wily because he promised to fix them so they could keep on doing their intended purposes (by the way, note that many of these Masters are actually re-purposed utility/worker robots, only sticking with the jobs assigned and programed to them. What's more, the decision making abilities they have were specific to their job set and for commanding other less advanced robots for the projects they were made for - Guts Man, a construction robot, commanding a bunch of less advanced construction bots such as the mets - ; that's why they are called Robot Masters, actually. If they had the full autonomy Mega Man has, couldn't they have decided to do some other work, or be able to go against their programing?). They did NOT chose to go on a rampage, that only happened after he reprogrammed them. So if the autonomy that Mega Man possesses is unique to him, or at the very least is something that only a few of the robots have (such as Proto Man, Roll, and Bass), then that pretty much deflates the argument that all these rampages are Dr Light's fault because of all these robots having autonomy. Another point, though it's not really theory busting: Dr Light didn't actually just let Proto Man run off and not care about pursuing him. When Proto Man escaped, he was considered destroyed, thus there was no attempt to get him back. Dr wily later found and repaired him; that's how he was able to figure out how to reprogram the robots Dr Light made. So yeah, nice hypothesis, but it doesn't really hold up when one recalls the overall plot of the games. Still was a fun video though, and I like the other Game Theorists videos, so no biggie. :p

Asimov's law:*exists* The robots (animatronics in fnaf): I pretend I didn't see that

Here after the 2020 Wily theory. It's so nice to hear the og theme

1:49 *OBJECTION!* That moment was included for the American audience, not the original Japanese version. It is not a constant.

I love my Brezel, Bier und Wiener Schnitzel! :D

Game theorist : Dr. Wily is a good guy! *7 years later* Game theorist : Dr Wily killed all humans

One problem in the Japanese version instead of saying he is more than a robot when Wily tells him he can't harm him rock actually goes silent knowing he can't do it even if he really wanted to

okay im considering the reason why megaman is megaman. He chose to don the armor and protect his home, heroes protect by any means necessary even if the hero is a machine. Megaman must've believed through his hero's morality system that he had to try and destroy wily

"Some of the worst things imaginable, have been done with the best intentions." A quote from Jurassic Park 3 that is going on your tombstone Dr. Light!

Love that you played Bright Mans music when talking about Light. Well played.

I do miss the old intro

who is Mega Man's true villain? capcom for killing him

They went to RIT, where, instead of MIT, it's in Rochester!

0:52 on the right corner there is 2020's... HOW DID HE KNOW IN 2020 HE WILL LINK US BACK TO HERE

Ahhhhhhh, feels good comin back to this 7 years after watching, love the old vids

Counterpoint: Manufacturing a sharp knife does not make you responsible for someone stabbing someone else. Wily's fault.

Normally, I'm inclined to think at length on these topics, especially since such a good case is put forth. However, I can't agree at all on this theory. What's being argued here is purely semantics. Dr. Light created a series of androids with autonomy, but NOT, as was stated, without ethical programming. Rock and Blues were experimental exceptions to this as Light wanted to see how a robot without a specific purpose would adapt to human life. Blues chose to "escape" and find his own path whereas Rock acted more like a child would and chose to see Light as a father and act that way. Both, though, exhibited strong ethical tendencies (Blues, though rebellious, usually did the right thing even so far as to end up being a major ally to Megaman in his fight against Wily). The incident at the end of MM7 was the case of Megaman finally being pushed too far and acting like an angry teenager. In summary, Light built some robots who's "purpose" was to be human. Now, had you said that Light was responsible for the Reploid uprisings in the X series, then I would be more inclined to believe it. Dr. Light did build X with the full intention of him being absolutely free willed. Dr.Cain, having found X some years later in stasis then used X as a template to create the Reploids and, ultimately, Sigma. And we all know what happened with Sigma there. Though, it could be argued that Wily was just as much at fault when he created Zero as a means to infect all other robots with a virus that caused a sort of induced robot madness and eventually infecting Sigma as well. But, really, this is all just like blaming the person who invented the spear for every war ever fought and the deaths that have occurred because of it.

FNAF: looks at the first rule of robots FNAF: mega man robot rules stink…ha suckers

watchin in 2020. i forgot how much i missed the old intro

Nothing in this video surprised me, I knew you were going to talk about Dr. Light from the start. Better luck next time Mat.

Buuuut Light only made Proto, Rock, Roll, and the original 6/8 masters (depends on if you believe powered up is canon). Also, X was the first robot with free will (and I guess zero as well), so these robots still had the laws of robotics at the time. Dr. Light in fact tried really hard to make sure X had a conscience by storing him for 30 years (and stayed for 70 more)

I WANT MY MEGA MAN SHOW Edit : the one with the cool space like theme and the actually human megaman

Good video and I'm inclined to agree with some of your points. That said its a huge leap to go from "Dr. Light is irresponsible" to "Dr. Wily is innocent".

An ethical possibility for Megaman deciding to off Wily in the seventh game could be the same as Zero being able to fight and kill Dr. Weil in Megaman Zero 4, "fighting for those he believes in" aside. Asimov's 0th Law of Robotics, which states (probably get a little of this wrong) that robots cannot through action or inaction allow harm to fall upon humanity as whole, as in if there was a threat to the entire human race. If said threat was by chance a human, and said human was intent on destroying humanity, a robot would be free to ignore laws one, two, and three in order to ensure humanity's survival. Megaman likely recognized the neverending process of Wily trying for world domination, thus countless lives being lost even if he was stopped each time, and decided that Wily's death would prevent the eventual destruction of humanity.

From what I understand of the lore of the Megaman games, Dr. Light did build the original collection of Robot Masters (Iceman, Fireman, Elecman, Gutsman, Bombman, Cutman, and possibly Oilman and Timeman) but he build them not to be weapons but to be tools to help humanity (Gutsman was supposed to help in Construction, Iceman was to help fight fires, Bombman was to help in demolition, Cutman to help in deforestation, etc, etc.) But Wily corrupted their programming, he didn't give the Robot Masters a choice. In fact, in Megaman Powered Up, you can rescue the Robot Masters and after beating them with your Mega Buster, it becomes clear that all the Robot Masters had been tampered with (prime example would be Iceman's split soldier personality). Also, while Light made the first collection of Robot Masters, for all the other Megaman games, they were created by Dr. Wily (that's why we got more weapon-oriented Robot Masters like Crashman and Napalmman). Also, regarding Protoman, obviously they were supposed to replace Dr. Light's children, so if Protoman wanted to have nothing to do with him and left, that was his choice, so in his suffering he made two more children to bring joy to his life. And finally, let's get to Megaman 7, this is all guesswork but if Megman registered Wily as to much of a threat, he could have calculated that he must be terminated (though why it took 7 games to figure that out? Who knows) but isn't it possible, that after absorbing so many corrupt Robot Masters that it started to affect Megaman's mind? Seriously, how could you absorb the essence of 54+ Robot Masters (up to the point) and not be affected? So it's possible that the Robot Masters' programming by Dr. Wily, negatively affect Megaman after absorbing their powers?

ᶘ ͡°ᴥ͡°ᶅ Wily what you want. Im just a robot chillin.

I'm here from the future, and I have to say that this intro is amazing! :D

If the path to anhilation was paved with good intentions dr.light was about to build a highway

Well, who's the one who scraps Megaman's powers after he defeats Wily? Megaman: Hey, Doctor Wily fled, I gotta go catch him Light: You don't need those powers anymore Megaman: But! Light: You, don't, need, them, any, more .... dun dun DUUUUUUUN!

I just realized something... We've always known about rock and roll... But what's interesting is protoman's name in Japan is Blues. Blues is the precursor to rockabilly, and eventually rock and roll.

What about the Zeroth Law? (paraphrasing) "A robot may not harm a human, unless doing so would be for the greater good of humanity as a whole." Arguably, killing Wily probably would've been the quicker short-term solution for protecting humanity (especially since we all know how hard it is to get politicians to change any laws). No more Wily = No more Robot Masters terrorizing humans = No more Wily-related problems (and with the added benefit of no Maverick Virus, no Zero Nightmare, and no Model W)

Willy creates and hacks Robots to kill people Mega Man wants to kill Willy because he is destroying the world... Conclusion: Dr. Light is the villain.

mega man 3 is my favourite because it was a game that introduced proto-man

02:10 in de Japanese version Megaman says ".........." plus in the developing of this we have never the "die Wily"

That humanoid robot level are highly machine sentient and of course movement are realistic quantum mechanic

I W I L L H U A N T Y O U U N T I L T H E D A Y Y O U W I L L D I E . . . -Vile, Megaman X3

Here's the thing though: a majority of the games, Wily does do his own programming/reprogramming/robo-building. MM1, he reprograms 6 utility robots Dr. Light created into weapons. MM2 he built the robots himself. MM3 reprograms both the 8 Robot Masters and Gamma. MM4 kidnaps another scientist's daughter and forces him to create 8 more robots. MM5 he created 4 Dark Man robots. MM6 Wily reprograms the 8 finalists of a tournament held for fighting robots from other nations. They were not of Light's creations and were used for actual fighting, though they may have been based of Light's designs. MM7 He not only built 8 new robots to bust him out of jail, knowing he was going to be imprisoned at some point, he also built Bass and Treble, two robots CLEARLY on par in independence with Protoman and Megaman. MM8 He uses the Dark Energy to power his own 8 robot masters MM9 Wily builds 8 robot masters to battle the "evil" Dr. Light's robots MM10 Roboenza? Seriously Dr. Wily? Also, blaming Light as being evil for programming robots with free will, then seeing those robots re-programmed/side with Wily, would be the same as calling Einstein evil for having thought up the equivalence of matter and energy, and then others using that to create the atomic bomb.

Lmao looking at this after game theory’s most recent video is weird

Technically Thanos in Marvel vs Capcom says that of how Tony stark and Dr.Light try to avoid war but instead start it

The Game Theorist is the best channel on KZfaq. Gosh, I love it so much.

Awww... he was going for 1 million subs back then... :3

Try humming the Megaman Castle theme from Megaman 2 to the intro song of Game Theory. They fit rather well together.

"The slowest scrolling dialogue ever". Me: *Laughs in Undertale*

I think a more important question is whether it is ethical to impose absolute laws on beings of similar cognitive capability as Humans.