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Gaming vs. Office Chairs: What I Learned Using Both Fern Chairs
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The Haworth Fern is the chair I sit in everyday, and Halo is my favorite game series of all time. So when Haworth said they were dropping a gaming chair that featured the Halo Series I was pumped. Let's see how this gaming chair stacks up against my normal office chair.
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@TheRussianFloofCat Жыл бұрын
What I can appreciate about this chair is that it's an office chair that became a gaming chair. So we don't have to deal with all the drawbacks that a normal gaming chair would have.
@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@SubdueOG Жыл бұрын
Just received my fern yesterday. Went with digital knit, and did opt for the headrest. I’m 5’6 and I can get it in that sweet spot for lounging which I like. Something I recommend if anyone is looking to buy a custom fern is do a bit of a deep dive into the seat fabrics. I went with something called Big Diagonal and it’s fantastic. Great color, very comfortable and not too soft. The material makes me think of super fine sweat pants fabric, it’s great so far!
@btodtv Жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Did you go with the lumbar? -GK
@SubdueOG Жыл бұрын
@@btodtv no lumbar, tested one with it and felt like I had a fist in my lower back. Without lumbar is like sitting in a supportive hammock, love it!
@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын
@@SubdueOG It almost seems like the lumbar support does more harm than good on the Fern. I think Haworth should have added some kind of depth adjustment for it. This is what I love about the Aeron, as I can always loosen the PostureFit SL, when I need to lean firmly into the backrest to do some stretches.
@Pistolita221 Жыл бұрын
@@StardustLegacyFighter I like the lumbar, it couldn't hurt to make it more adjustable though.
@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын
@@Pistolita221 Yeah, it's lacking a depth/pressure adjustment imo.
@davidwilson6577 Жыл бұрын
At a guess, the motivation behind this was to associate the fern with 'gaming chair' searches. They can make a product in low quantity that's great for a small number of people, and advertise their top end chair to the gaming market who are probably looking for that exact thing, even if they don't know it.
@btodtv Жыл бұрын
It's definitely made for a VERY small group of people. It's a cool looking chair though, I really like it -GK
@sonicpop Жыл бұрын
Fully agree. I bought my Fern last year to replace my bucket gaming chair and I absolutely love it. It took a lot of research to stumble upon it though and it seams this Halo edition is only meant to increase their exposre in the market for those looking to replace their gaming chairs. The Fern is the GOAT and this colab will allow more people find it.
@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын
Now this is what a gaming edition chair should look like, one that has nice branding, but is still a proper ergonomic chair. It may not be in the best configuration for the Fern, but it's still better than other gaming edition chairs I've seen. Take notes Secretcrap.
@btodtv Жыл бұрын
LOL. No Comment -GK
@eriksaari4430 Жыл бұрын
logitech embody??
@t.h.9897 Жыл бұрын
I never heard about the Fern in Germany. Thanks to you guys I found the perfect chair for me after buying and returning e.g. Embody Logitech, Sayl, Gesture. So thanks a lot.
@edalamay 6 ай бұрын
The black Haworth patch on the back, below the UNSC eagle being misaligned would drive me crazy, especially for a $1400 chair
@ib78 Жыл бұрын
You guys do really good reviews. Probably the best I have seen so far.
@btodtv Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Appreciate the support -GK
@sopwithsnoopy8779 Жыл бұрын
I like the headrest, but yes it is hard-ish and uses the cheaper material even if your chair is upgraded to the digital knit material. My only wish about the headrest is that I wish it could be configured like an airliner headrest to be able to cradle your head in it. But I guess you arent supposed to nod off in your office chair 😁
@OzzyMoto2K10 9 ай бұрын
The bottom patch on the back not being perfectly parallel vs crooked is…janky (especially for such an expensive chair that is banking on visual attraction as a selling point for Halo fans).
@GraffitiEditsClips Жыл бұрын
Bought one, then returned it. Headrest is hard, doesn't lean back far, so you can't relax when ur just watching videos, if you have wide shoulders the chair will hurt them when leaning back for an extended period of time. The arm rests were great other then they don't lock. So they will move on u put a little to much pressure on them. For 12 to 1500 not worth it. Customer support wasn't to bad though via email. Good luck getting ahold of them on the phone.
@Svanir.80 Жыл бұрын
I'm one of those who fit into the lumber support lovers for the Fern. Before I got it, though, I made sure there was a way to remove it. It's a complicated mess to do so, but at least it can be done. Great for those folks who want the Master Chief or a quick ship chair.
@michaellieberman9419 Жыл бұрын
We need a review on the new Zody upholstered.
@btodtv Жыл бұрын
January 11th it goes live -GK
@TheRealBix Жыл бұрын
It's so much pain to get a custom Fern in France (and Europe I imagine) that I think this halo chair will be greatly appreciated here. The price tho.. I expect it to be around 1600€.. (~1800$) as normal fern are around 1400€
@btodtv Жыл бұрын
I believe the Fern is worth the price, they are very comfortable -GK
@eriksaari4430 Жыл бұрын
bf sale had fern(no lumbar) for 759
@TheRealBix Жыл бұрын
@@eriksaari4430 but no headrest. Can't do without. I've ordered the ticova, for 220€. I will try it in few days
@trimfly Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealBix so how was it?
@TheRealBix Жыл бұрын
@@trimfly as you can expect for its price. It's not that bad, but there is nothing to be praised like I often see on videos like this. So : very plasticky, very wobbling, but customization is pretty nice and back is well ventilated. However the lumbar support is painful, I had to remove it to prevent severe back pain.
@stevenftw2 Жыл бұрын
Do you have any recommendations for an office chair that has thicker soft padding for both the seat and back? It doesn’t need any extra bells and whistles, just something very comfortable for longer periods
@guillaumeroberge8718 Жыл бұрын
thanks for that nice review! What are those light bars ?
@glenngratz4077 Жыл бұрын
Since it was both Black Friday and also recently my birthday, we got the Halo Fern chair. Love it, but think I need to sell a kidney now. I got it since I'm both a gamer and work from home.
@themrgumbatron Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. Love the production
@aidengeiger9606 Жыл бұрын
I am so annoyed because I can not find a chair that I can genuinely pull the card out for. I am 18 6 2 to 6 3ish and a couple days ago I was going to purchase the fern due to the sale however i missed the sale by 6 hours due to my new credit card not coming in on time. I am looking for a chair around 800 dollars absolute max would be 900 if I am completely sold on the chair. I currently have the Autonomous Myochair and can tell that the quality is terrible but it lasted about 2 years so not too bad. One of the main things im worried about is the chair not fitting my height and with my myochair the headrest really solidifies the height of the chair even tho my shoulders hang over the back seat. If there is a video that yall have made for taller people with regards to chairs that yall recommend that would be extremely helpful or naming your top 3 picks for taller people around 8-900$.
@Pistolita221 Жыл бұрын
Your weight matters, too. Hmm, they have a relatively recent video on their picks for different price brackets, maybe check out that video? You could also pick up a used fern for 800$ or any other high end chair, on craigslist or fb market place. Sometimes people sell them for dirt cheap cause they think it's a generic office chair. And even 5 years used, these things are built to last another 7 years or more.
@coolvinay Жыл бұрын
Mate, your reviews are awesome. I just wish you were in Aus and did reviews on chairs available in Aus market. Had been to office works yesterday to check Haworth chairs. The zody is simply not an option as its definitely not upright enough for me in normal seating position. I liked the fern over Soji for its comfort, but the Soji gave the best upright position among fern and soji with fern coming almost perfect upright but i felt its still not there but the back rest was twice as good. Even with the lumbar support removed the sojis back rest simply didnt fit my back well. I dont know if its just me, but upright just helps me think better. I just wish the fern didnt have that play in neutral positon when leaning back and it would have been perfect. So much confusion deciding. I spent 2 whole hours just trying soji and fern and still couldnt make up my mind.
@btodtv Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! You can increase the tilt tension to help eliminate that play in most chairs -GK
@ib78 Жыл бұрын
You should try Ryan's strategy with Zody. He keeps it in forward position but with loose tension, so he can rock it back and forth. That strategy works out really well.
@coolvinay Жыл бұрын
@@ib78 But the seat will be tilted down in that position so its not comfortable. They should have made the seat tilt independent like on the fern.
@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын
@@coolvinay The Fern's forward tilt is terrible, you lose contact with the backrest, when the seat is tilted forward. The Zody gets it right, because the chair should move forward with you.
@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын
@@ib78 I don't think he uses the forward seat tilt on the Fern, he just keeps it in the neutral position with the tilt tension loose.
@BrandonWestfall Жыл бұрын
I’m a massive Halo fan and my knee jerk reaction before you even went into the details is that I liked the base model more. Slapping a Spartan logo and 117 on a chair isn’t enough to make me buy it.
@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын
It's unfortunate that it's not in the best configuration and that you don't get to customise the chair. If there was a way to get the Halo Fern in the digital knit configuration, with no headrest or lumbar support, it would be incredible.
@Skynet_01 10 ай бұрын
@BTODtv can you guys do an updated review on the New Xbox Fern with Digital Weave + Headrest?
@nitzanbegger6250 Жыл бұрын
Awesome channel guys !!! Can you please review "duorest d2" ? Just bought it after trying all Steelcase/Herman Miller/ Haworth/ Humanscale .. Great price and amazing Ergonomic build . I would love to hear your feedback on it 🙏
@btodtv Жыл бұрын
Sitting in it right now ;) -GK
@nitzanbegger6250 Жыл бұрын
@@btodtv ♥️🙏
@fabian3112 Жыл бұрын
I have noble chair hero and am so sick of the racing chair look. The thing is the chair is in perfect condition and all the other good office chairs i looked up, like this one, are so damn expensive...
@btodtv Жыл бұрын
True, but if you get the right one you should be set for a long time -GK
@Pistolita221 Жыл бұрын
You can also find them for half off or less pretty reliably on craigslist and fb market place, sometimes cheaper if they think it's a generic office chair. second hand stores do that, too.
@grimer1805 Жыл бұрын
Do you prefer the mesh back or digital knit?
@btodtv Жыл бұрын
Digital knit is pretty awesome -GK
@danielekirylo Жыл бұрын
As an office worker and gamer, the leather seating is a NO NO due to breathing issues if sitting for long sessions, and I live in a cold place.
@elsonjiayunn5060 Жыл бұрын
what color is the mesh though? river rock?
@redvrmy Жыл бұрын
Now do the same for Embody
@btodtv Жыл бұрын
It's coming. We ordered a lot of different "gaming" chairs a few weeks ago and they are all here now. Embody, Sayl, Mavix, etc. -GK
@redvrmy Жыл бұрын
@@btodtv ahh shame the HM sale is ending today so I've bought it anyway now... couldn't stomach the thought of buying it later and missing out on 30% off. Looking forward to seeing you guys compare them
@jack91522 Жыл бұрын
I agree I dont like the headrest. What should you have gotten?
@Pistolita221 Жыл бұрын
A non gaming edition fern, unless you want a headrest. Then you want an aeron or an embody cause the head rest will be coming out this year.
@Fuerya 8 ай бұрын
Atlas headrest
@theelusivememe1772 Жыл бұрын
With the big gap the happens when slide the seat forward, do you still feel like you lower back is still supported very well?
@Pistolita221 Жыл бұрын
For me personally, I just don't move the seat pan all the way forward. My lower back is supported, but it creates an uncomfortable line of pressure along the end of the seat where my butt hangs off, so I just don't move the seat pan all the way forward.
@bobthomas8342 Жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or is the label on the back not level?
@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's not perfectly level. Probably a QC issue, since they're only making a limited number of these gaming edition chairs.
@alexworm1707 Жыл бұрын
Sorry to see they went secret labs way and not herman millers way on their gaming division.
@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын
Tbh, all Herman Miller did was add a bit of fancy foam on the Embody's seat and ridges on the Sync fabric to turn it into the gaming edition. The gaming Aeron and Sayl are purely cosmetic changes only; if you told someone these were limited edition colours, they wouldn't attribute it to gaming at all. I don't see how they did it differently than Haworth with the Halo Fern, at least they partnered up with a gaming franchise.
@alexworm1707 Жыл бұрын
@@StardustLegacyFighter HW is tacky and extravagant, HM is elegant and subdued
@Pistolita221 Жыл бұрын
@@alexworm1707 gaming gear is typically tacky and extravagant. RGB lighting, crazy angles and sci-fi or fantasy, it's not a subdued aesthetic. Office chairs are a subdued aesthetic.
@dylanloo9856 Жыл бұрын
WOOHOO HALO LESSGOOO
@btodtv Жыл бұрын
Are you a Halo fan? Ryan and I were lucky enough to play the first Halo in college, through the dorm ethernet connection. It was amazing with zero lag playing other students on campus -GK
@dylanloo9856 Жыл бұрын
@@btodtv Yea I'm definitely a halo fan. It's my favourite video game franchise too and it's nostalgic back when I used to play split-screen multiplayer. It was the first game that got me into "real gaming". B4 that I used to only play those indie games on web browsers like on Y8 and Miniclip.
@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын
@@btodtv Miniclip games were the best. I really miss those Flash games that I used to play when I was a kid.
@Rekettyelovag Жыл бұрын
If you get sweaty in a "leather chair", then it is not leather.
@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын
He didn't say he got sweaty, he said he felt the seat and his legs getting really warm after a few hours of sitting in the Halo Fern.
@Rekettyelovag Жыл бұрын
@@StardustLegacyFighter Yeah, same cause. Synth leather can't breathe. I'm rolling with a Russian office chair made out of buff and hard wood, and I only got sweaty when the temp inside was >35...I don't have an AC. XD
@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын
@@Rekettyelovag That's fascinating, what's the name of the chair?
@Rekettyelovag Жыл бұрын
@@StardustLegacyFighter Took me a while to search for it as they are not around anymore (the war, I guess), but it is called Chairman 653. There's a wide variety of these chairs and while they look similar, they are quite different.
@jackwilliford798 Жыл бұрын
Very ugly. If they removed the badge near top sand the number it would be good
@ssxxxxss Жыл бұрын
1.000 $ for a god damn chair, is insane... same thing with god damn matresses why is this a thing
@btodtv Жыл бұрын
There are plenty of cheap office chairs and cheap mattresses out there if you don't want to spend $1,000. -RB
@user-lb1yq2xy9g Жыл бұрын
For people with a decent job, $1000 for a chair is not expensive, and if the chair could help them work for long hours, they can earn money back. I know many software engineers in silicon valley buy a Herman Miller Embody to work from home, the Embody is 1800+, much more expensive than Fern, but it's just a piece of cake considering their salary. Also, for people with a back issue, paying for a high-end chair is still better than paying for the hospital bill.
@davidwilson6577 Жыл бұрын
R&D, quality manufacturing in locations where they actually pay wages, and also hey, people are willing to spend on them.
@coolvinay Жыл бұрын
A Kia does the same job as a high end BMW/Audi/Merc etc. But the comfort, features, status, quality still stands out in those high cost models. Plus if you are spending 12+ hours a day on a chair, its totally worth it. Imagine spending your entire life on ordinary hard not comfortable chair vs floating in a fern. I tried Fern and it almost felt like my back was not making any contact with the back of the chair yet I was leaning on it.
@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын
Funny you should bring up expensive mattresses, as I'm actually looking for a high end one atm. It may seem like these things are outrageously priced and gimmicky, but in reality it's a very different story. Cheap furniture doesn't tend to last that long and you may find yourself having to replace it multiple times, especially when the warranty coverage is very poor. Of course it's not possible for everyone to afford high end items, but if you've got the budget or find a good deal, it's absolutely worth it.
@R8ndy Жыл бұрын
THUMBS DOWN. DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME. Here's why... Title does not fit the content. The uploader/narrator ONLY talks about the gaming chair. No details in this video that support the title.
@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын
I completely disagree, he talks about the differences between the Fern he uses every day, compared to the gaming edition Fern. What exactly were you expecting to see?
@FredMaverik Жыл бұрын
@@StardustLegacyFighter I find that he does it in a lot of videos... saying he's comparing but then he only shows off one..... like, he tried convincing people the office chairs were better but in the video he showed so much of the features of the GAMING chairs that it still seems like they are better from his video... i mean, and the guy up also agrees with me, what is up with this uploader?
@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын
@@FredMaverik I'm not sure how that video they made about gaming chairs vs office chairs made the former look like a better choice. The only unique thing he showed about the gaming chairs was how you can recline them back all the way tbh. Everything else was in favour of the office chairs, ranging from the recline motion all the way to seat and backrest comfort.
@chunkplunk Жыл бұрын
my fern is coming in less than a week but I'm worried there'll be strikes before it arrives
@btodtv Жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed. Which one did you get? -GK
@chunkplunk Жыл бұрын
@@btodtv in the uk you can only get the black stock version (no headrest, no lumbar) but that's what I wanted anyway
@coolvinay Жыл бұрын
@@chunkplunk How much does it cost in the UK for the black stock version? The very basic version sold in AUS officeworks costs 1000 AUD.
@chunkplunk Жыл бұрын
@@coolvinay £1100
@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын
Bad weather is also an issue too in the UK atm. I was supposed to receive a next-day delivery today, for some small office equipment, but it's still not here. Hopefully, your chair arrives safely soon.
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