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Support Weapons Analysis on Heavy Enemies | Chargers & Bile Titans | Helldivers 2 Weapons Guide

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Gaming Existence

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@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence 4 ай бұрын
The description has links to my written reference guide for this video. It also has a FAQ and corrections section. Feel free to drop a comment and I may well add it to that section. Thank you for watching and I will see you next time!
@yangpaan453
@yangpaan453 4 ай бұрын
I consistently kill bile titans with 2 ATE-rockets to one side of it's mouth. You dont aim at the middle of the head, the weakspot is on the side. (on 9s, no ps5 crossplay so theyre not weak)
@yaderniyhuesos2
@yaderniyhuesos2 4 ай бұрын
Just wanted to say, at my experience, spear can one-shot bile titan if fired right at the head
@Delarins
@Delarins 4 ай бұрын
The cool thing with the expendable is that you can realistically use the call in as a sticky nade to kill the chargers without using the rockets since it's about a min cd.
@schifferfoto8659
@schifferfoto8659 4 ай бұрын
You can fire the arc thrower much faster after the first shot (about half of a full charge) without sacrificing too much damage. I kill titans with it quite regularly.
@yangpaan453
@yangpaan453 4 ай бұрын
@@schifferfoto8659 you dont sacrifice any damage. full charging just makes the shot more accurate
@itisluna4782
@itisluna4782 4 ай бұрын
Be careful what you hear about the Bile Titans. Nobody knows if its intentional or not, but when a PS5 player is in the lobby, Bile Titans are SIGNIFICANTLY weaker.
@Demonicdumbassss
@Demonicdumbassss 4 ай бұрын
I don't understand why this is a thing
@Armetar
@Armetar 4 ай бұрын
I think PS5 player needs to be host tho
@azulovesyou2
@azulovesyou2 4 ай бұрын
It's been figured out. There's a bug where if a ps5 player is host, bile titans are super weak.
@sasharudyy3587
@sasharudyy3587 4 ай бұрын
OhDough did some testing, and it seems you just need to he playing in crossplay with a PS5 player in the lobby to get the bug. I haven't seen tests done on full PS5 lobbies, tho
@Demonicdumbassss
@Demonicdumbassss 4 ай бұрын
@@sasharudyy3587 find it strange
@melo7038
@melo7038 4 ай бұрын
Great video. Just a tip with the arc thrower. You can make it shoot twice as fast if you half charge your shots after the first firing. It still does the same amount of damage. Think of it like a minigun, where the first shot requires it being revved.
@araulen4820
@araulen4820 4 ай бұрын
Really? I was doing the half shot stuff after the third shot. It's still full damage when half charging after the first shot?
@Vurpal
@Vurpal 4 ай бұрын
only difference I've noticed from a full charge compared to fast charge is the distance the arc can shoot
@WastePlace
@WastePlace 4 ай бұрын
I also think the damage when charged fully brings it to a 5 shot kill on a charger if all connect with it’s head, could’ve sworn I counted out that many shots each time I’ve downed a charger with it
@thetode
@thetode 4 ай бұрын
@@Vurpal I'm fairly certain distance doesn't change, just the amount of enemies that can be chained. Half charge is 1 chained enemy, full charge is 2 chained enemies.
@fishercyza5366
@fishercyza5366 4 ай бұрын
Helps to stand under the bile Titan and shoot up with arc weapons, you can strip the belly away extremely quickly with the blitzed or thrower before finishing it with the thrower
@Hermitstatus
@Hermitstatus 4 ай бұрын
8:09 This is what I respect the most from Arrowhead, the fact that we can partially reload and finish the process whilst dodging enemies instead of going back to square one every time is truly wonderful.
@TheWaffleRadio
@TheWaffleRadio 4 ай бұрын
Except when we cant lol looks like you can just pull infinite spent casings out of the SPEAR
@wyn9693
@wyn9693 4 ай бұрын
​@@TheWaffleRadio spear is basically unfinished atm though. Every other weapon I've used has the power to simply do parts of a reload
@breakthecode4634
@breakthecode4634 4 ай бұрын
​@@wyn9693 nah lots of buggy interactions
@thehipinmyear
@thehipinmyear 2 ай бұрын
Stimming... fucking life saver when you need to stim. LOVE the hell out of this feature in games. Just started playing days ago, and I can see why it's gotten the love it has. Well deserved.
@andremariaribeirodacunha3695
@andremariaribeirodacunha3695 4 ай бұрын
Great vid. No time wasted, just pure information, extremely useful. On another note: after reading the video description, it blew my mind that some people think you have poor pronunciation. I think you have great speaking skills, you talk with personality, without it feeling obnoxious 'youtube' hype. I have not had a problem with a single word you have said
@johncoffee5837
@johncoffee5837 4 ай бұрын
This 💯
@firewalkwithjuno5421
@firewalkwithjuno5421 4 ай бұрын
If he came in yelling about how this one trick would turn my game upside down, it would've been an instant don' recommend click, but short and sweet information with visuals are literally top quality content.
@CrizzX
@CrizzX 3 ай бұрын
Yeah. He speaks fine.
@TheMonkeydela
@TheMonkeydela 4 ай бұрын
Genuinely helpful video with little to no wasted time. Thanks for re-confirming my obsession with spamming the EAT Launcher all over the map
@Stonnin
@Stonnin 4 ай бұрын
Need one of you on every hell dive
@kursedreaperable
@kursedreaperable 4 ай бұрын
EAT is Love EAT is life
@SuperCatacata
@SuperCatacata 4 ай бұрын
Funny how one of the cheapest early stratagems to buy remains one of the best for removing the big threats. Not needing to waste a backpack slot for it is great.
@MrOrdosan
@MrOrdosan 4 ай бұрын
ya. I consistently run 9s with my EAT. its severely slept on and I wont leave home without it.
@davidfrazier6308
@davidfrazier6308 4 ай бұрын
@@kursedreaperable for a pc player it is because that and one or two other weapons is all that work at difficultys 8 and 9.the balancing for pc is trash. i think its on purpose i see ps5 player droping titans in a couple shots but on pc it takes 2 raill orbs and 3 to 4 anti tanks, or just one 500kg thats the most affective way and if you have 3 or four titans than expect to spend half the match getting rid of them just constantly running droping EAT's and waiting for cool downs.
@Dr.Boring
@Dr.Boring 4 ай бұрын
there's an additional benefit to the expendable anti tank, as it is very easy to stick the call down to a chargers head and have it kill them as it lands, so on average I find I can kill three chargers per EAT which given its extremely short cooldown, is incredible
@maggnet4829
@maggnet4829 4 ай бұрын
You mean the ball sticks to the head, right? Like the resupply? Does it only stick to the head or other parts too?
@Unahim
@Unahim 4 ай бұрын
It's a "Known Issue" that call-ins that stick to bugs, still land where the ball originally landed. So it won't track them. It's been like this since the start of the game, it's still on the "to-fix" list. Edit: Others below have corrected me. It appears equipment stratagems do track, it's mainly the orbitals and eagles that are bugged.
@scoople6
@scoople6 4 ай бұрын
I know that's true for orbitals and maybe eagles but it does indeed work when calling equipment pods in like weapons or supplies. I've seen plenty of equipment stick to a bug, follow them, then land on them.@@Unahim
@TheTroubleshooter
@TheTroubleshooter 4 ай бұрын
stun grenades also can stall chargers and titans for hellpods to smash them (5s each)
@-moongorilla-
@-moongorilla- 4 ай бұрын
​@@TheTroubleshooterdoes the stun need to hit the main body/head of a bile titan, or does it work with just hitting a leg?
@Gottaculat
@Gottaculat 4 ай бұрын
E-AT is my go-to for chargers, devastators, and bot drop ships. Charger and devastator both go down to a shot to the face. Drop ships go down with one hit to a thruster nacelle. It can also kill spore towers from across the map with one hit, but be sure to crouch/kneel to steady your shot over long range. For bile titans, my buddy and I came up with a decent one-two punch; he hits it with a spear to take off the top armor, and then I call in the orbital rail cannon to finish it. We both have fully upgraded hangars, and usually both bring 500KG Eagle bombs, giving us 4 500KGs before our eagles need to resupply. If you distract a bile titan, or hit it with EMS (which my other buddy likes to run), you can stop the titan long enough to one-shot it with a 500KG bomb, as a direct hit tends to kill it outright before even exploding. For bot Hulks and tanks, we usually call in the orbital rail cannon, and be done with them. However, the E-AT is also pretty good for taking out hulks if you get behind them and hit their vents, and I think the tank has a vent on the back, too, but my experience with these is limited, and usually the hulks draw so much fire by the time I get behind it, that I don't know if the E-AT is a 1-shot, or if it just took a lot of damage. The E-AT is my favorite, because it has a crazy-fast cool-down, and comes with 2 launchers - a great way to rattle off 3 rockets if you still have one from earlier, or better yet, arm your buddies who are focusing on eagles, orbitals, or sentries. I also run a backpack shield generator, great for blocking smaller bug hits when lining up a charger head shot, as taking a hit without the shield disrupts your aim. One final thing, you can lure a charger into your E-AT stratagem delivery location, and get a free kill as the pod slams through it, giving the E-AT the potential to kill 3 chargers every 70 seconds, or every 63 seconds if you have the 10% reduced heavy weapons stratagems cool-down ship upgrade. The E-AT, I'd say, is pretty well-balanced. The one-and-done is inconvenient, especially when on planets with stratagem-jamming ion storms, or near bot jammers. However, it's a proper anti-tank warhead, and as such, should be the best at defeating heavy armor, and being able to one-shot a charger is not OP at all, it's what you'd freaking expect to happen if you shot a AT rocket through the head of what's essentially a charging armored African bull elephant.
@davidsprott3216
@davidsprott3216 4 ай бұрын
i agree with everything but i prefer recoilless against bots,because of jammers and potential calldown/cooldown delays.
@gmikecstein
@gmikecstein 4 ай бұрын
The EAT ball will just stick to the chargers and follow it, then the pod will drop for (usually) a one shot, unless you hit the butt.
@barrymonka5125
@barrymonka5125 4 ай бұрын
Nice essay. Quasar cannon.
@Destructaconn
@Destructaconn 4 ай бұрын
Invaluable information about the chargers with the flamethrower, thanks so much man. You deserve all the engagement
@THEUrinalCake
@THEUrinalCake 4 ай бұрын
Good to see this testing. Lots of [eople were saying "Oh railgun is still just as good, you just gotta get good with unsafe mode" but to me it felt about half as effective as it used to be and your testing bore that out.
@JaximusDecimus1
@JaximusDecimus1 4 ай бұрын
Anytime I jump into an 8 or 9 with randoms and see they all have railguns, I know the team is going to struggle to deal with armor. It amazes me that it's still so popular.
@saltydog7482
@saltydog7482 4 ай бұрын
It's a really good option on bots in my opinion. Let's you one shot deveststors from far away through their shields too. And can still quickly kill hulks with face shots. Definitely fell off vs bugs tho
@Mr.Sleepy._.
@Mr.Sleepy._. 4 ай бұрын
Nah, on console lobbies, it is still one shot on unsafe when it's spitting (2/3 shot normally), but in a PC lobby, it takes like 10 to 15
@ragingmonkey4592
@ragingmonkey4592 4 ай бұрын
@@saltydog7482 You can also do the same with Autocannon or potentially AMR too though, and those do not require reloads after each shot or charging. I tend to favor the autocannon personally Edit: Maybe not through the shield, haven't tested, but definitely 1 shot to the head with a much more rapid fire rate on those earlier ones, 2 for the hulk
@saltydog7482
@saltydog7482 4 ай бұрын
@ragingmonkey4592 yeah. I just find the railgun easier to use for it since it has better handling than the auto cannon. I have a harder time hitting the head with the cannon. Autocannon can break outposts though so that gives it a nice advantage
@sasharudyy3587
@sasharudyy3587 4 ай бұрын
A few points that I'd like to add: - Spear can 1 shot headshot bile titans. In my experience, it's also pretty easy to do. You just need to have them facing you when you shoot them, and I recommend pointing the spear above the lock point so that it's more likely to hit the forehead. This tecnique also works with chargers, but you have to aim below the lock point to reduce the minimum distance at which you can get a headshot. - There is an armor level between medium and heavy probably called "light vehicle armor", according to the description of the guns that it applies to. For the moment, it seems to apply to the AMR, the Autocannon and probably the safe mode railgun (haven't tested that). Enemies that have this armor level are bot striders (you can't damage the cockpit from the front with the MG43, but can with these guns, for example), and Hulks (their face). This doesn't mean that these guns aren't useful againt bugs, since they deal full damage to medium armor parts like bile spewer heads or hive guard heads, giving you the ability to oneshot them. - this granularity of armor levels going from 1 to 10 doesn't seem to apply in practice. Enemies either have no armor, light armor, medium armor, light vehicle armor or heavy armor, so 5 levels total. Every weapon that gets white hit markers on certain enemy parts, does so in all the same spots. There is no practical difference in penetration between the MG-43, Slugger, Senator, AR-23P and Dominator. They will get red, white and bounce hitmarkers in all the same places. It's likely the the Slugger and Senator are just mislabeled Edit: I also just tested it, and you can get very consistent 3 shot kills on chargers with the Railgun if you hit them in the head with above 90% charge shots. You can tell it's above 90% when you can see the last longer horizontal black line.
@blue_blood2885
@blue_blood2885 4 ай бұрын
The armor levels are probably to make it so a weapon that has say, the same armor penetration as medium deal 50%, while another one can deal full damage wihtout being able to penetrate heavy armor
@Joe_Friday
@Joe_Friday 4 ай бұрын
Just need them to fix the lock on issues with the spear. I'd run it so much more. I can't figure out if it's by design or not.
@thatch7653
@thatch7653 4 ай бұрын
ok so i'm not crazy, good
@ralts6464
@ralts6464 4 ай бұрын
@@Joe_Fridayits just bad programming on how it works so it is how it works.
@simplysage3562
@simplysage3562 4 ай бұрын
Slugger pierces hive guard heads while being ligh armor pen
@brayan1612
@brayan1612 4 ай бұрын
Great video, no annoying intro, no bullshit, direct to the point and very high quality content.
@CrossKnight
@CrossKnight 4 ай бұрын
Amazing video, thanks for all the hard work! *Cries in Laser Cannon*
@NinjaGingaStubbs
@NinjaGingaStubbs 4 ай бұрын
Cant believe my favorite DRG tester is now my favorite HD2 tester! Keep up the great work!!
@kamikeserpentail3778
@kamikeserpentail3778 4 ай бұрын
They're basically the same kind of game. Go in, do a set mission and maybe some optional missions often involving a time consuming mini game sort of thing or subtasks that expose you to enemies, target enemy weak points or blow off armor, get overwhelmed and rely on abilities or grenades to get out of tight spots, then get to evac in the time limit, after which everyone shares in rewards.
@PreferablyPurple
@PreferablyPurple 4 ай бұрын
Holy shit i saw your comment below the video while i was watching (on mobile) and then it dissapeared abd had to scroll for 3 minutes just to find it to give you a like! ROCK AND STONE AND DEMOCRACY
@stay_coolXD
@stay_coolXD 4 ай бұрын
For KARL!!
@skapunker1986
@skapunker1986 4 ай бұрын
what is drg ?
@petercottantail7850
@petercottantail7850 4 ай бұрын
​@@skapunker1986 deeprock galactic, a coop centered game that's a lot of fun
@ShadwRavn
@ShadwRavn 4 ай бұрын
That flamethrower tip is really nice. Thanks. Love the high quality videos.
@WulfieZi
@WulfieZi 4 ай бұрын
I've been 2-shotting Titans with EAT's ever since the game came out. Glad to see people are picking up on how useful it is.
@KaaneDragonShinobi
@KaaneDragonShinobi 4 ай бұрын
The Helldiver Corps salutes you. Literally the entire Helldiver Corps. It's a mandate from Super Earth, we even got the ones in traction to manage it with a little elbow grease.
@EspressoInSpace
@EspressoInSpace 4 ай бұрын
I remember watching your DRG videos and being in awe of how well tested and put together they are. Now watching you do the same thing for Helldivers is super helpful. Some of the highest quality content for each game. Keep it up!
@ivanfranebijelic7009
@ivanfranebijelic7009 4 ай бұрын
A valuable extra note, with certain weapons, it's possible to significantly reduce the shots to kill by first blowing up the Bile Titan's bile sacks. This also significantly empowers certain strategems, with the orbital railcannon being a guaranteed kill if the sacks are gone, and making the 110mm Rocket Pods much more likely to oneshot as well. This makes having a primary that can destroy the sacks quickly very valuable. Side note, technically speaking I believe the new Plasma Punisher shotgun primary can kill a Charger through its armor with roughly a full mag to the head, so it should be able to eventually kill Titans too, not worth it but better than having no way at all to damage it when you respawn
@Lakita2880
@Lakita2880 4 ай бұрын
The plasma shotgun also can kill chargers by shooting underneath them
@ivanfranebijelic7009
@ivanfranebijelic7009 4 ай бұрын
@@Lakita2880 Yeah but you can get much faster kills by direct hitting the head or abdomen
@jasony8480
@jasony8480 4 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks for the information. My friend and I have been disproportionately gearing up heavy anti-tank to kill titans when they can be around (I swear the things have just been tanking more hits than even this analysis has shown). Ambushing to kill the sacks is not difficult and I always ended up using my railcannon during the fight anyways.
@ivanfranebijelic7009
@ivanfranebijelic7009 4 ай бұрын
@@jasony8480 Different body parts have separate health pools, they are probably taking so much to kill because you hit one shot to the head, a few to the body, a couple on the legs etc
@jasony8480
@jasony8480 4 ай бұрын
@@ivanfranebijelic7009 The average engagement starts with either a rocket to the head and/or a 500kg, then normally a rail cannon blowing a hole in it, what can only be a missed head rocket or required charger kill after that...the situation tends to get messy at that point. I think hitting the sacks underneath and then a rail cannon sounds a lot more repeatable and opens up more weapon combinations (autocannon for example).
@gabrieloliveiralima3772
@gabrieloliveiralima3772 4 ай бұрын
this is, hands down, the best content creator of helldivers 2. My god, the data here is priceless!
@renewalacumen1770
@renewalacumen1770 4 ай бұрын
I love that you don't stop at one test for something, even including the potential of random elements in testing.
@bonbongandalf4920
@bonbongandalf4920 4 ай бұрын
Just found this on my feed. You may be the first HD2 youtuber I see which actually put in work in the video instead of just narrating reddit/discord comments Keep up the good work! ❤
@Deathsinger99
@Deathsinger99 4 ай бұрын
Spear does 1 shot titans in the head, I’ve done this multiple times, but of course it’s very finicky to get working right.
@LethalOwl
@LethalOwl 4 ай бұрын
Because of the finicky-factor, I generally won't even launch missions at higher difficulties than 5-6 if someone's bringing a spear for anything other than memes. 7+ difficulty and I would not launch a mission if someone wanted spear against bugs. I'd consider it more worthwhile against the bots, since there's more stationary and guaranteed 1-shot targets for the spear among the bots.
@Deathsinger99
@Deathsinger99 4 ай бұрын
@@LethalOwl I just wish it worked because I love it so much 😭
@gorenebeda0
@gorenebeda0 4 ай бұрын
I've felt something was off when watching this on mobile, and only then I've realised that this video fits the whole screen lol gj on gathering all that vital info
@kildozer9351
@kildozer9351 4 ай бұрын
I very happy I found your channel. I wish you covered more of the games I play. Good stuff.
@tehphoebus
@tehphoebus 4 ай бұрын
The quality of your videos is truly excellent. Thank you for doing all of this
@PWNsoldier
@PWNsoldier 4 ай бұрын
I don't really have much to add, but good job on breaking down the ten levels of armour values! Commenting to give you some "engagement" because you deserve it
@Dawn_Breaker
@Dawn_Breaker 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate the on screen pronunciation corrections. How the ancestors in your region came up with creating an accent where three and free sound the same is baffling. So props to you for adding the clarification 👍
@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence 4 ай бұрын
Nothing to do with my ancestors apart from my Mum maybe :p In the description I explain more ;)
@taraskywalker453
@taraskywalker453 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to produce this! I have nominated you for a Democracy Award for your brave knowledge collecting endeavours!
@remigusker6024
@remigusker6024 4 ай бұрын
Great vid! Also amused that for once "clip" was the correct term in regards to a weapon's ammo but it was the only term not used. XD For the unfamiliar, the way the autocannon is reloaded are referred to as stripper clips, and are where the term clip comes from in the first place
@SteviaSweetenedFlan
@SteviaSweetenedFlan 4 ай бұрын
And he also said that the cartridge needs to be "primed" when the correct term is chambered. Also this made me realise it's a bit baffling that not a single ballistic weapon has a bolt hold open which would increase reload speed immensely by just having to press the bolt release instead of pulling the charging handle.
@Nudgarrobot
@Nudgarrobot 4 ай бұрын
@@SteviaSweetenedFlan Well, our unupgraded ship ***does*** muzzle load its orbital strike guns so I'm not too surprised we have chaotic or archaic equipment solutions
@landenmorton4543
@landenmorton4543 4 ай бұрын
Noticed that too! Thought this was my chance to be a gun nerd
@QwertyThe2nd
@QwertyThe2nd 4 ай бұрын
Stumbled on your armor pen analysis video just yesterday, and got this today. Really great info here and I appreciate cutting right to the chase with everything. You're doing great work for democracy out there and have earned yourself a subscriber and definitely some shares.
@KaigaKarasuma
@KaigaKarasuma 4 ай бұрын
When talking about the Autocannon reload, he calls them "Cartridges" and this is probably the first time I've ever had to say this, but It's Clips, not cartridges (or magazines). The rounds are 'clipped' together by a piece of metal that is ejected from the gun once the rounds are pushed into the magazine. You can see it fly up into the air. Pedantry aside, this is a really good video. Great job on the breakdowns!
@napiski2260
@napiski2260 4 ай бұрын
The spear can one-shot the bile titan at a 50/50 rate if you shot it head-on, and 2-shot if you hit the same side (on the same spot). Amazing video, I loved your DRG tests and I am glad you picked up Helldivers 2!
@cixtos
@cixtos 4 ай бұрын
You are appreciated 🚀
@cixtos
@cixtos 4 ай бұрын
I’m curious about the audible range (sound signature) of different weapons and I’m also curious about the available fire weapons and damage. These are more niche topics so no rush to look into it
@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this, very unexpected 😊 Appreciate the ideas also!
@KEBB-ho7fr
@KEBB-ho7fr 4 ай бұрын
13:57 Spear actually one-shots bile titans if it hits in the head. Otherwise its usually a two shot kill from the front. If the damn weapon actually locked on correctly it could be a viable bile titan killer.
@kamikeserpentail3778
@kamikeserpentail3778 4 ай бұрын
I find it generally is. But it's useless against most everything else...
@hippoace
@hippoace 4 ай бұрын
​​@@kamikeserpentail3778yes it is v good vs bile titans but very hard to use against chargers as the it closes in on you very quickly.
@SuperCatacata
@SuperCatacata 4 ай бұрын
@@kamikeserpentail3778 Yep, it has one purpose and it honestly doesn't matter that much if you are in a lobby with PS5 players. Once the PS5 crossplay bug gets fixed the spear might see more usage. That and hopefully they fix the damn lock on.
@LethalOwl
@LethalOwl 4 ай бұрын
I'm probably not willing to launch a mission against bugs if someone is trying to bring a spear. Next to useless against the bugs compared to it's rivals. However, I can see it being useful against bots. I'd probably still prefer EATs or Recoilless over the damn Spear, though.
@KEBB-ho7fr
@KEBB-ho7fr 4 ай бұрын
@@LethalOwl IMO its the opposite, there isn't much the spear can do on bots that the railgun or EATs can't, plus if you take a spear you give up the shield backpack. Which is essential on high difficulty bots. On bugs it has the niche of being the only handheld weapon capable of one-shotting titans, however it comes with many many drawbacks.
@ianpartrick8347
@ianpartrick8347 4 ай бұрын
High quality video for certain, excellent job. I cannot recommend the EAT enough, you can basically throw them off cooldown and if you happen to be out at a time of need, away from any of your pods, or simply have none left, ideally your teammates packed a solution, or another stratagem you have can take care of things. If you think of it like "one charger every 30 seconds" the value becomes very clear - there are a lot of other options that don't come close to that. Plus it leaves a backpack slot free - ask a homeboy if you can have one of their backpacks if theyre bringing one, and you can save a slot. If not, you can use the shield, a supply pack, a drone, or even be the loader for a homie's support weapon.
@murnivex
@murnivex 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info, will be sharing this video with my friends.
@lordcola-3324
@lordcola-3324 4 ай бұрын
No Flamethrower test against the Bile Titan?
@mattm3023
@mattm3023 3 ай бұрын
I tested it. It takes about one full magazine of the flamethrower for you to get crushed to death
@Taco_Yum_Yum
@Taco_Yum_Yum 3 ай бұрын
Flamethrower doesn't do anything to the bile titan due to its armor rating, just like he said with the charger head armor it's the same for the bile Titan's full body besides the belly
@tabasco_taz5804
@tabasco_taz5804 4 ай бұрын
Your HD2 weapon/damage vids are amazing, for someone like me that plays only 2/3 times a week its been such good information to reduce my frustration.
@gr3yvengeance597
@gr3yvengeance597 4 ай бұрын
I'd love to see a "semi-controlled" setting like these testing the autocannon damage to bile titans stripped side armor, maybe something that allows coordinated teams to more effectively use EAT's on BT's. For now though, this is plenty of useful information, reinforcing what already feels good to use, but with data to back it up. Thanks for all your hard work
@hedgehoginmist
@hedgehoginmist 4 ай бұрын
chef's kiss quality - the data collection, analysis, visualization, general editing all outstanding!
@Joe_Friday
@Joe_Friday 4 ай бұрын
The cartridges are what goes into the clips. The clips are then attached to the top of the autocannon. The cartridges are fed from the clip into the magazine and the clip flies out the top.
@julianalonso7806
@julianalonso7806 4 ай бұрын
This is a wildly accurate way to put it.
@1ceClimber
@1ceClimber 4 ай бұрын
Commenting and liking solely for the fact that I had no idea you could easily blow tge charger leg armor off by shooting it in the back. Thank you for the rigorous testing!
@ThatTravGuy
@ThatTravGuy 4 ай бұрын
The editing and work here is fantastic. Great video, very informative, and very engaging.
@Nartanek
@Nartanek 4 ай бұрын
I do greatly appreciate the info, i myself am a fan of the railgun for the ease of use, but has to be used on unsafe mode to do anything, except against bile titans and tanks. And the orbital railcanon is a must have to deal with bile titans. :) The 500kg eagle bomb is also good but need more precision, altough you can get two in rapid succession if your eagle is fully upgraded. I must say though that they make anti armor support weapons very difficult, the expandable need to be called, then you wait for it to land, that is if there is no ion storm at the moment, plenty of things can go wrong in those few seconds. The recoiless uses your backpack and take ages to reload if you don't have a teammates doing it for you, and the spear is... like the recoiless but worse. Plain old stratagems are usually more reliable, except when the ion storm hits you.
@TheTroubleshooter
@TheTroubleshooter 4 ай бұрын
combo the 500k with the new stun nades, when cooked and air bursts, they can stall titans for 5s
@petercottantail7850
@petercottantail7850 4 ай бұрын
expendable AT is best used with the thought process you might not use it when you call it down. just litter the map with them. the cool down is just that fast, any extended period of time and you'll have 3 called down by the time you need to leave(not saying to do that but example) technically you have 3 shots at a time cause you'll have one in inventory and 2 waiting to be used. the 'wait' is so fast you can call one after You've been spotted by bots and get an AT in your hands time to shoot the first ship down. personally i think they aren't worth it in higher difficulties cause unless you don't have anyone to reload for you for the recoiless. the amount of enemies swarming you, there's just not enough time to safely move around the map to pick up more AT's and if your cover is blown you'll always need more than just 1 shot as usually they spam heavy armored enemies. what i believe the devs intended purpose for it in high difficulties, ideally is calling down one for other teammates to use in a pinch. you can throw the stratgem next to them where they are in a position to take out what ever needs an AT to do the job.
@waldamy
@waldamy 4 ай бұрын
The spear 1-shots the titan in the head, confirmed both by other people, as well as by personal experience.
@BlenderGeek
@BlenderGeek 4 ай бұрын
I usually run a spear in missions and act as a dedicated bile titan killer. It will absolutely kill them in one shot, but has its own issues.The lock on is absolutely infuriating, absolutely the worst part of the weapon. The hit location is less random than it seems, but takes a while to get used to. The missile shoots out and up from the cross hair, then turns and flies directly for the targets center of mass. If you know your distance to the target, and where exactly the missile is going to target, you can get headshots when it's facing a slightly different direction, but this is hard and inconsistent. When it's facing you, hitting the head is fairly consistent.
@blackreign673
@blackreign673 4 ай бұрын
its a really cool and fun weapon but its drawbacks are just too much for me
@Duranous.
@Duranous. 4 ай бұрын
On PS5 or PC?
@waldamy
@waldamy 4 ай бұрын
@@Duranous. on both, solo or in party. It just oneshots BTs with a shot to the head, but you need the titan to be facing you and have quite a distance to the BT. And a bit of luck with the lock on.
@BlenderGeek
@BlenderGeek 4 ай бұрын
@@Duranous. On PC, in a lobby with only PC friends.
@tangero3462
@tangero3462 4 ай бұрын
With the autocannon, there's a visible ammo count in the internal magazine bulge. Once the brass rounds the halfway point, you have five left and can top up. I've found the magazine icon on the HUD a little deceiving sometimes, so this is a nice positive way to confirm. Unrelated to gameplay, whoever designed the autocannon absolutely excites the gun history nerd in me. Long recoil like the Oerlikon, Borchardt/Luger/Furrer toggle link action, top feed semicircular magazine that blends Krag-Jorgensen and Madsen, it's just *chef's kiss.* Someone watched a lot of Forgotten Weapons
@nekotajni394
@nekotajni394 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic video, superb quality. You deserve to have a lot of subs and succeed in this.
@Roxfox
@Roxfox 4 ай бұрын
4:16 Just to be that guy, this is one of the rare situations where "clip" is acceptable! Like a hair clip holds strands of hair, or a paper clip holds pieces of paper, in this context a clip is a strip of metal that holds several otherwise loose rounds together, without fully enclosing them. Once the rounds have been fed into the autocannon's internal magazine, the clip is then discarded.
@RoyalIVGuard
@RoyalIVGuard 4 ай бұрын
Very helpful. Hope people watch these so we get more help out there with higher levels. Be cool to see stats on the bots next
@Nerf_Craft
@Nerf_Craft 4 ай бұрын
I will never approach chargers the same way again! Although I haven't reached Bile Titan difficulties yet, this video has certainly prepared me for when the time comes.
@benwasley2999
@benwasley2999 4 ай бұрын
Awesome video dude! really helpful, Recoiless rifles don't fire Missiles/rockets though, they fire Shells, theyre essentially cannons with no breach at the back, this is what removes the recoil.
@Epzo1
@Epzo1 4 ай бұрын
Just FYI, what you load into the Autocannon is called a stripper clip or clip for short. It holds five rounds/cartridges per clip. It's used to reload the 10 round internal magazine. Nowadays we commonly use 10 round clips to reload 30 round mags.
@charredhusk
@charredhusk 4 ай бұрын
Fun fact about the auto cannon, it can shoot insanely far with no detectable drop, and take down more than you expect at those ranges. You can one-shot rogue broadcast stations, and 2-shot spore spewers. You can also do massive damage to the stationary turrets the automatons have, as long as you can hit them in the back.
@FeritTheBandit
@FeritTheBandit 4 ай бұрын
This is the most informative video I've found on chargers and how support weapons being work on them and I appreciate it.
@the1Blind
@the1Blind 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the research and compilation. Since I'm commenting anyway, here's two well meant nitpick for weapon terminology: - the autocannon is loaded by clips. Clips load magazines, magazines load chambers. - the recoilless rifle takes a shell, not a missile. The thing basically has a double charge, half propels the payload forward, half goes out the back to counteract the recoil. Anyway, nothing important, just commenting for the algo gods.
@ironheadtheotaku3983
@ironheadtheotaku3983 4 ай бұрын
I always bring EAT-s on terminid runs With some practice you can kill 3 chargers with one stratagem use, as you can stick it to charger's face and it gets killed on landing. Most consistent way to make it stick and not bounce is to throw it at his sides. When it looks at you, you still can stick it - but make sure you aim it slightly above his head
@sowiwiody3681
@sowiwiody3681 4 ай бұрын
I'm in love with the Expandable Launcher ever since I first got it at a low level. Can be used with any other support equipment. Extremely quick recall time. Can be called when needed then discarded. Kills a charger in 2 shots most of the time. Easy call allows to be used even during a swarm. If desperate, the drop pod itself is expandable enough to call it on Titan directly. Is also expendable enough to call directly on a hive enterence, if you run out of grenades. Can be used to snipe nests from a save distance, without triggering flying bugs. Can be called if you respawned far away from your main support weapon, allowing for some extra security. Every other AP weapon doesn't suit me, as they don't allow to be used with my machine gun.
@doppleganger5576
@doppleganger5576 4 ай бұрын
I definitely do this sort of analysis as well small scale with my friends just to test fun stuff out and see what works. I'm glad you're taking the extra effort to record the data!
@broedrooster
@broedrooster 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your work. I've found great success in finishing off titans with busted sides with the Scorcher primary. Tend to get red hit markers if you him just above the front leg. Maybe this could be tested with more weapons. Lots of heavy hits that tend to strip this armor like Orbital railcannon, seems to leave them at 1-15% health which is not much at all if the side is open and you can damage it. Pubs tend to use two "heavy hits" to kill titans off and its usually a massive overkill. Even if side isnt busted, just shooting the belly off after like a 500kg could work.
@LifeisWAK
@LifeisWAK 4 ай бұрын
excellent video! very informative, you have an insanley calming tone to your voice!
@ashlynnvickery9643
@ashlynnvickery9643 4 ай бұрын
I love the clear methodology of this video, very well presented, very open discussion of testing. An amazing analysis!! Amazing work man!!!!
@jonazmoreno3718
@jonazmoreno3718 4 ай бұрын
Dude! Your videos are top notch! I also noticed that you have amazing videos of BD3 and DRG two games that I own and I have played in the past. DRG is one of my top co-op games. Thanks for your contribution and it'd be amazing to cross paths on the battlefield with you (though, I suck)
@eironyy
@eironyy 4 ай бұрын
THIS VIDEO IS AMAZING BRUHHHHHHHHHHH No time wasted, straight to the point, great presentation, great quality. I like howw you are totally different than other youtubers who just try to make the video longer by talking nonsense between the important stuff. And you don't speak like those youtubers who just pronounce the words too long just for me to speed up the video lmao. It's obvious you put a lot of effort on this video instead of just putting a random gameplay and doing a voiceover. KEEP UP THE CONTENT.
@seangallagher9435
@seangallagher9435 4 ай бұрын
Hitting the armor at the right angle is really important. I’ve had an EAT rocket deflect from a charger by getting a glancing hit, and I’ve had rifle shots bounce on some of the weaker automatons too.
@mr.cuttystabby5331
@mr.cuttystabby5331 4 ай бұрын
One note about the autocannon: if you shoot under the charger, you can cause it to trip and leave it prone for a second. Prone position seems like the same animation every time, so you can trip and and account for one of thr legs being in the same spot every time.
@akylesjr2
@akylesjr2 4 ай бұрын
Eye opening just like the last one, thank you for everything you do and data you have collected. please stay in lab and sharing your finds we appreciate every you do bruh. Rockin Stone
@Xandranxanda
@Xandranxanda 4 ай бұрын
The expendable quickly became a must-have every mission against the bugs. Even if I bring a different support weapon, I call down the expendable on cooldown all over the map or in areas we need to defend. Makes it very easy to quickly swap, blast a charger, then go back to whatever you were doing.
@mturker100
@mturker100 4 ай бұрын
I feel like I'm watching a pre-helldive briefing on a destroyer. This is top tier stuff.
@Zylellrenfar
@Zylellrenfar 4 ай бұрын
I didn't realize how big the gap was between the EAT / recoilless and the other support weapons. That's huge, they're basically a must-bring for bug missions.
@DroidX1337
@DroidX1337 4 ай бұрын
Great video! looks like the expendable is the move. This is exactly what I was looking for! Love your accent too!
@adammtlx
@adammtlx 4 ай бұрын
Almost never comment on YT videos but I wanted to express that I super appreciate and respect the huge amount of work that went into this. You got all three from me.
@silvergeist43
@silvergeist43 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for putting in the time to do all this testing. It was a huge help
@johannesbjerkejannesson428
@johannesbjerkejannesson428 4 ай бұрын
Also, really nice narration and the guide seems very profesional! U have a good voice and a talent for make these videos. Hope you get the amount of subs and like u deserve. Really good work dude 🤟
@BlackSoda696
@BlackSoda696 4 ай бұрын
I'm using the spear quite a bit, from what I have seen so far: - if parts of the body that are inside the view window / white circle, are covered by terrain / smoke, the spear will have trouble locking on. - The spear will one shot a titan 85% of the time IF the titan is facing towards the user, basically headshots are a 1 shot - Same for chargers, though it is VERY hard to pull of due to their movement and not recomended. - You can hold the aim button while reloading to have a faster or even instant lock-on. - The spear is able to lock on to structures if it can see the entire structure. It can work on spore caster trees, but needs an elevated position above the spore carpet, same for Shrieker nests, and bot factories. Note: The autocannon turrets and rocket turret, seem to have higher armor pen than the mobile variants as the ACT can take down chargers and titans if they don't get destroyed before that. Tesla turrest don't seem to work on Titans. Some notes for the bots: - The spear does not oneshot Hulks when hitting the front - The spear will target the center of dropships, thus not oneshotting them - autocannons, EAT and recoilles can take down dropships if fired at the thrusters, thus killing the entire drop if done fast enough.
@anitaremenarova6662
@anitaremenarova6662 4 ай бұрын
Excellent job! Recoilles seems like the best support weapon for armored enemies now. Each call-in being able to take out 3 titans or 6 chargers with good aim and also bot towers or tanks.
@umbreonsenju3547
@umbreonsenju3547 4 ай бұрын
I was genuinely struggling against the chargers, i didnt know the grenade launchers explosion didnt damage thru the head. Def super helpful to know as a newer player
@Aegxs
@Aegxs 4 ай бұрын
On the bile titan’s stomach area, it is important to mention that it is not the entire belly area that needs to be destroyed in order to prevent the ranged attack. It only needs to be the front segment of the belly. On another note, the spear can in fact one shot a bile titan to the head. I have no footage, but have seen a fresh bile titan die to a Spear shot angled directly to the head while very close and underneath it.
@soulrippers5652
@soulrippers5652 4 ай бұрын
Bro, I dont play that game, watched clip to breakfest. But you got subscriber, like and new watcher. You put so much work, I am going watch rest of your videos. GJ m8!
@chippy2986
@chippy2986 4 ай бұрын
This bloke is from the Ministry of Strategy and Technologies and deserves our respect.
@user-rx4wf2tq7n
@user-rx4wf2tq7n 2 ай бұрын
By far the highest quality video of this kind. Thank you for your hard work!!
@northerntoe
@northerntoe 4 ай бұрын
Seriously man thank you for actually answering these questions. I’ve seen a lot of people kind of meander around the topic. But I really think we need a test range in the game so people can actually figure out this stuff for themselves But until then democracy, thank you for your service
@jacksonhamstra4660
@jacksonhamstra4660 4 ай бұрын
Regarding the Spear, something I've heard barely any creators mention is the lock-on mechanic is improved by pinging the enemy. It's in the trivia section of the weapon's wikia. I feel like I've noticed a substantial improvement since I started doing it.
@mastergurka971
@mastergurka971 4 ай бұрын
Few notes, Arc Thrower can be fired faster by only charging halfway up after the first shot, as an arc enjoyer I can say fairly cenrtainly that the damage, range or bounces do not change when you do. The Spear can oneshot kill Biletitans if you score a headshot, I've done this multiple times aswell with my first one being my very first spear shot fired about 20 seconds after we started the match, it couldnt have taken any damage from other sources beforehand. Autocannon can bounce and recoil when fired on slanted surfaces, making it possible to shoot the tail of a charger by shooting the ground below it when it charges you. Expendable Anti-tank is techincally a single strategem call-in to kill 3 chargers since you can fairly consistently throw the ball to stick ontop of a charger, making the drop-pod kill it on landing, assuming you can score solid headshots with the 2 rockets. Coupled with the short cooldown its excellent for killing chargers.
@PandaGamingChannel
@PandaGamingChannel 4 ай бұрын
Very helpful for new (or even experienced) players like me who want a more concrete understanding on the options we have against these enemies. And the video gets to the point quickly, presentation is clean without any padding. I'm sure I will refer back to these test videos time and again in the future.
@BelacDarkstorm
@BelacDarkstorm 4 ай бұрын
For the Arc thrower against chargers, you can fairly consistently get head shots if you aim above the charger. Additionally, after the first shot you can fire again without fully charging, infact you have to barely charge it at all. With both of these you can VERY quickly take out a charger.
@fatalzan
@fatalzan 4 ай бұрын
you just earned your self a subscriber! very informative and helpful videos
@HarryDrews
@HarryDrews 4 ай бұрын
Dude, you are doing incredible work. The amount of time and effort you put into your videos is clear.. and you're actually helping the community understand damage profiles, etc. Thank you, sir!!
@johannesbjerkejannesson428
@johannesbjerkejannesson428 4 ай бұрын
Really great vid man! Keep em coming, good work and thankyou 🙏 Had to have take you a while with this testing and editing. We all really apriciate 👌
@goldhuntar1178
@goldhuntar1178 4 ай бұрын
my favorite way of dealing with bile titans is with the grenade launcher, once you destroy the titans belly and then call in a railcannon its a one shot, ive also noticed after destroying the belly that it will drop VERY quickly from almost any other weapon, like EAT, recoilless, arc thrower, or stratagems.
@ohrayoe3858
@ohrayoe3858 4 ай бұрын
another great video. thank you! i use the arc thrower for everything and just the fact that it has no ammo requirement makes it my go to weapon. its great for multiple titans when theyre close together 😈
@RecoveringLoLAddict
@RecoveringLoLAddict 4 ай бұрын
From my experience, EAT and RR can 1 shot chargers as long as you aim directly for the head. But there's a catch, you need to hit them directly in the center of the head, no on the side. It's really easy to do it when they are charging directly towards you.
@SuperCatacata
@SuperCatacata 4 ай бұрын
Luckily chargers aren't like Shriekers. Running you over with their dead body.
@LukasJampen
@LukasJampen 4 ай бұрын
The autocannon is one of my go-to weapons. It is great to deal with the tougher enemies your primaries have issues with and can even take out chargers, hulks, tanks and towers reliably. Hulks can even be taken out with 2 headshots if you land them and the giant turrets can be done with 3 shots in the back. It might need a specific angle of attack but in a team there is mostly another person with something else to deal with it. Also the orbital railcannon is always there for clutch situations or bile titans
@Would_he_be_Manbat_Manbat_Man
@Would_he_be_Manbat_Manbat_Man 4 ай бұрын
Just proves my point that EAT is really one of the best stratagem in this game. Thanks for all the hard work.
@geraldaugustus739
@geraldaugustus739 4 ай бұрын
I know these take an incredible amount of work, so thank you! Also, would love to see the automaton breakdown (weakpoints too!)
@meestur6210
@meestur6210 4 ай бұрын
One tip is that the arc thrower always homes towards center mass of the target, so if the leg is in the direction to the center of the charger, then the arc will hit the legs.
@soridosuneku
@soridosuneku 4 ай бұрын
Love it when players do this level of testing. Thank you!
@chaoticroderick1805
@chaoticroderick1805 4 ай бұрын
2 things ive found to add to your info here. I receently played a game where i fired a single missile from the exo suit at the top part of a bile titan from the back just after it emerged from the ground, and it one shot it, surprisingly also visually exploding the whole back abdomen of it. suggesting that the armour on the top of the back section of the abdomen is weaker than the sides and front of the middle section. Secondly, to add to the spears ability to kill bile titans it will only take one well placed shot to the head to kill the bile titan, while other areas including the top and sides can take 2 to 3. I get reliable head shots on bile titans at roughly 30 to 50 meters away if its coming directly at me.
@Artoik-dk4vv
@Artoik-dk4vv 4 ай бұрын
Really Enjoyable breakdown of how the game works and even though i knew most of it already just by playing your video is really well done and informative. Good Job! Nice Video!
@cheeseyoger
@cheeseyoger 4 ай бұрын
Stats for the stat god and data for its data throne Bless you for researching and presenting all of this o7
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