Not gonna lie, looking at the thumbnail I thought this was some super duper ginormous new kind of video card.....

I wish they’d just make their own version of a rear attached lat pull

The lat pull solution is one of the reasons I chose Rep over Rogue. Though I wish Rep would come out with a weight stack solution.

No wonder the REP Lat/Low Row pulley keeps selling out the second it comes in stock. U r right, the Slinger n Trolley have so much potential once they fully commit 2 them!

The band attachment option is particularly nonsensical you might as well just attach the band direct to a pull-up bar or rack cross member and save the $300. When this was first released that was the only option Rogue gave

Killing the videos man!

Hey Coop ! Another option for resistance on the Slinger is to use a Rogue (or any other company's tbh) vertical loading pin (for grip strength) There may be some sway when you pull and use the Slinger, but it seems to be a more optimal option for attaching weight to the cables

Solid review man! I saw this slinger in one of other videos. Even I thought this is not ‘best’ option out there. Thanks for confirming.

Great video as always Coop. Hypothetically could you purchase a low cross member and mount the weight stack in the center of the rack where your belt squat is?

This is why I really like the Rep lat pull down better. Just in practice is a better not versatile design.

This is one of the few options that work with the wall folding racks. Center and back mounted options don't really work. So for that niche this is the best option I've seen.

I built a custom pulley system on my rack. You load plates on a loading pin. Works like a charm. Still a prototype, needs some improvement for ease of use and whatnot but it's great.

Until the extended routing comes out for the slinger, not even the weight stack is a good choice because there are so few places to put it. You couldn't put it in a 4 post rack because you will no longer be able to use the inside of it (unless you have a half rack, I suppose). You can't put it in the front of a six post rack for the exact reason I just mentioned. So your only options are to put in in the back of the rack and float the rack in the middle of the room (obviously not ideal/possible for some people who don't have a lot of space), or flip the rack around so the 24" portion is in the front and the 43" is in the back. More people may be okay with that, but it still limits the functionality of the rack. I would love to see Rogue release a half-cave with one slinger for people who can't afford or can't fit a full cave.

Agree Coop. As far as I've been able to research, there is no great solution for a full functional trainer type options with a (Rogue) rack or any manufacturer. Even if you were to design a rack with extra components to accommodate the pulley and spend the money on all the bells and whistles that go with it, it's still sub-optimal. For instance, it would make sense for the new lat pull down seat to also have foot plates on the bottom so you can do low rows with the new low pulley but it doesn't. Furthermore, even functional trainers, like Rep, don't have a low row option on their functional trainer even if you could afford the cost and the space. Like you said, all good ideas but half-baked.

This is solid!! It’s insane how much different type of equipment continues to be put out there. This is why the garage gym lifestyle is the way to be! I’ll never go back to the commercial gym 💪🏼💪🏼

"Rubber is not ideal." OK heard you loud and clear.

I would love to see you're review of the Angles 90 pulley system they just came out with! I wonder how it compares to other pulley systems on the market!

I'm a huge Rogue fan boy That's said, I've never seen the point of this. Rogue is also taking far too long to come out with new products.

Hey Coop, Do you think the ML version of this would fit on the short 12" wall mount crossmembers of the RML-90SLIM rack? If I'm eyeballing this right and using the measurements Rogue has on their site, I come up with 11" of "mounting" length which should fit on that crossmember. I'd have to drill a hole for the cable to pass through but that's minor.

Considered the Slinger but bought the SURPLUS STRENGTH UPS HIGH - rack center mount - no hassles with rubber grommets - no drilling a x-member for the cable

Coop, if you look at the instructions for the swivel pully on the monster cave, it has a reason for that “2nd” pulley locations.....

Coop, I was wondering if you could try mounting a Slinger to end of your Savage storage rack where it seems like nothing would get in the way and you wouldn't have any kind of safeties to move every time you use it. The issue I see is that the Fray racks don't use a flat topped I-beam so you would probably have to buy a Monster Lite version that is tall enough to get over the post and then use your spacers to adapt it to the 1 inch holes, but otherwise.. Would that work?

It seems the hack with using the 50 Cal LT1 Tolley arms with a shackle is a good option for those who have them already.... saves taking off your flip/down safety's and installing the weight plate accessories. I plan on purchasing the shackle and giving that a try!

nobody’s going to see this but i love my mom

This is why I bought a REP 5000 rack and just got the lat pull attachment. Does everything the slinger can do and has a low row pulley.

This is why I got the surplus strength UPS it goes in the middle of my monster rack

@garagegymreviews what’s your thoughts on the weight stack variant? I am really considering one.

Can you please review the rogue 50 cal trolley and lever arm kit? Debating if its worth purchasing! Thanks!!

I hope they one day and I hope soon, release a plate trolley for the slinger. It was teased a long time ago

There are too many issues making it less practical especially for the money. Rogue's competitors do a better job on price and practicality while offering a low pull and better placement within the rack for the same money. I am surprised rogue hasn't developed a better product, placement options, or weight attachments...

I am debating between this or the rep fitness with lat puul down attachment. The thing is that I like the rogue leverage arms better though. Can I use the roque leverage arms and the lat pull down on the foldable rogue rack?

Hi Coop, I have the Rhino on my RM6 but my ceiling height is just about to low to fit the Slinger for a lat pulldown. Would you recommend hooking up two spud inc cables to the rhino to get the benefit of a vertical lat pulldown or do you suggest something else? Thanks.

Any chance we get a Monster Cave review?

Can you use something like this for a cable cross? Im looking to replace my 20 year old Dicks smith machine with upper and lower pulley for something that has the ability to have dual upper and lower as well as squat capability.

Hi Coop, have you tried using 35 inch lever arm as the weight option?

Review of the Surplus Strength pulley system

Coop! The man, the myth, the legend!

I apologize if this was addressed already above. Where can i find the center cross member to mount the slinger onto on my monster rm6?

I feel like if you’re doing the rhino lat pull down hack, the surplus strength pulley totally outclasses the slinger

The 1st lat pull down i remember was Titan fitness from like 7-8 years ago

I tried to turn on all post notifications but KZfaq wouldn't let me 🤔 said an invalid process is applied

Coop, Rogue DID come out with more attachments for the Slinger w/ the monster cave. - Low pully like you said - Low pully seat w/ low row. Check the optional accessories for the cave. Fixes the issue you talked about in the video.

"but overall, let me get into the nitty gritty" lol

…love your site…very complete…well done…

So how would you get the cable through on a monster lite since not 1in holes...

Waiting on the lower pulley for my lat seat i have the plate holder works great don’t work inside my rack so no problems I’ve put over 200lbs of plates no problem

QUETION MINUTE 6:15. ANSWER MINUTE 2:46 those two rubber rings with a canal in the middle you can attach in the rack holes up and down. So the rope is protected

Coup do a review on your Adjustable ROT8 Pull Up Station 👍

Hi what is the attachement used to bring the weights up and down at 6:33?

Can you please go into more depth using the slinger with the rhino, you said it’s the best way. Did you have to order new cables at a different length? Thx

Also using the slinger and a trolley arm inside the rack is the way to do it I think, the way Matt Pendergraph did.

Could someone tell me which model of the rack? Thanks!

@6:23 I wonder if you sprayed some silicone spray into that rubber piece if it wouldn’t glide easily and not slip out @Coop

Is there any reason you can't just use the slinger as normal in the front, have a second one further back (e.g., between the back two uprights of a 6 upright rack), and just make a DIY cable that's long enough to reach through both? It would allow for easier use of the plate stack from Rogue, or even using your regular plate-loaded system and keep it out of the way of the safety cross beams.

It would be nice if they added a right angle cross member to allow the slinger to sit out further. Same design as thier out of the rack safeties. Just not as long. Have that trolley with some pins on the same upright.

would this fit the Rep Fitness pr-4000 rack?

Would this fit on the foldable version of the monster rack

Can you bolt this upside down along that center cross-member? I have ceiling height restrictions, and don't see a particular reason why the pulley system couldn't work upside down, but I don't have access to one to play around with. Thanks!

Can you do a review on Domyos Rack 900. In India, Rogue and other USA brands are not available but this is, would like to hear your thought! 😄

Would love to see an update with the extension and seat

I have a Monster Lite and I'm looking now for cable options, specifically for lat pulldown and seated rows, but seems Rogue din't offer anything, WTF? Even worse, in Europe, they don't even have the weight stack available. Seems to me the a stack with lat and low functionality that would connect to the rear of the rack would be an instant hit. What are they waiting for?

What height power rack should I get?

They really just need a roller that goes on the upright like the adjustable jammer arms have. Then like a flip down post where the weights can go

My problem with all cable attachment is that they increase height, which I do not have. If instead they had made some type of unit that could attach across like you did but mounted on the underside I would be much more interested. As it is there is no real benefit to it over the tons of other rack mounted cable systems out there.

I just now got this and the grommet will already not stay in. Did you ever come up with a solution for it?

Something that looks like a shackle bush from a leaf spring on a car would work, just make it out of UHMW plastic and drop it in from the top, and have the slinger hold it in.

Would you recommend an ANCORE Trainer over this?

@8:53 @PrxPerformance has video on how to do a DIY Low Pulley for any rack so we can all train

Rogue needs to make a drop in high / low pulley. I think they could innovate on whats already on the market. It would be a very popular product.

Whats so unique about it? i have a 8yo Powermark (Bodymax) rack with a high & low pulley attachment. This version of Rogue just seems to be more awkward and inconvenient compared to pulley attachments most other brands have.

I have my Slinger all set up but haven't been able to use it. Waiting on the new cable to come in. The first was defective.

I wish that you would have showed how to attach it to the side of the power rack and how to attach weights to it. As it stands, I have no idea how to use it.

isnt the second wheel attachment point just for the not offset holes

Is Coup a firefighter? What's up with the stach?

where do you buy the rhino lat pull down?

Ok I NEED HELP…so I have a body solid cage with the lat pull down and row pulley but what can I use to have my feet in proper position as to doing the rows?? Just I just scrap this whole cage and buy another cable machine?? the cable device I have is the Chuck Norris total gym and it’s cool but trying to conserve space in garage and maximize everything. I hope someone here can help a brtha out with some sound direction! Peace to all the iron lovers out there!!

Will Rogue Trolly arms fit on my Rep 5000

Are you going to review the monster cave ?

Does anybody know the head height of this room please. It looks like it's more than 8.5 feet.

what kind of bolts are those?

Does this slinger fit on all rogue applications

As with most things Rogue puts out, you will almost always need that “extra thing” to make full use of an accessory like this. A little annoying yes. But understandable.

Why wouldn't you just buy a regular lat pulldown attachment for a power rack?

This is something I’ve really been thinking about.

Coop look up rail trainer cable pulley system

Do the REP fitness lat pull down too.

We need a rogue cave review

Is it a 24+30 rack?

You mentioned the monster cave in this video. When they released that like a month or two ago I was extremely intrigued. I'm looking to upgrade (swap out more accurately) my equipment and the cave raised my eyebrow. BUT.... i saw the slinger. Yes you can get the cave with a lat pull down upright and adjustable pulley upright.... or two adjustable pulley uprights to make essentially a cable crossover machine. That's great if you don't mind unloading like $8,000.... and have 9.5+ ft ceilings because those latter two options are only compatible (for some reason.... I fail to see why they wouldn't work with a 90" rack) with 100" racks. So I'm pretty much relegated to the 90" cave with slingers. The slinger always seemed like good concept but wouldn't work that well/at all in reality.... like socialism, Haha. They then came out with it working with a weight stack which excited me, but then I thought about it for a couple seconds and realized that's a bad idea. That is unless you buy another upright and two crossmembers to attach the stack to pretty much making it more of an attached high/low pulley system to your rack instead of one that's more streamlined and integrated with the rack. To have the weight stack slinger work as advertised you NEED a 6 post rack. I have one, but still. Because in addition to the 6 post rack you NEED to have pretty much 360 degree access to your rack. Why? The ONLY way the weight stack slinger would work is in the space between the middle upright and the back upright... the crossmembers attaching the plate storage uprights. Why? Because the slinger HAS to be mounted right above an upright. If you put it on the front upright.... the stack would be blocking pretty much every hole in your power rack.... not to mention block off the entire side making benching and squatting pretty difficult. So it HAS to be on the back upright of a 6 post rack. Even then I wonder how great it would be if you use your 6 post rack to, you know, store your plates. The plates stick out beyond the back of the rack. With the slinger cable dangling right at the end of the rack I assume the weight plates you have stored on said back upright would get in the way. Not so much maybe for tricep work or low rows but definitely for lat pulldowns. I already have a hoist fitness high low pulley machine (with a chest press) so the slinger felt like an inferior option. What I really want is a functional trainer or actual cable crossover machine. The Cave seemed like rogues answer to that desire. Even with dedicated uprights for the slinger stacks.... and with their new hinged adjustable low pulley....... I still doubt think it will work how I'd like it to. In order to use the low pulley you have to attach an extension cable to the cable. If you set the pulley to the middle of the upright to do..... chest flys..... you couldn't. Well, you could, but somewhere in the movement you'll come to a halt because where the two cables attach will hit that adjustable pulley. Not to mention having the pulley set to the middle of the upright means you'll have feet (plural) of extra cable sticking out of the pulley. So you'd need to strand like 3 feet away from the pulley... at least. So while the cave looks awesome..... I don't think I'd like it. What I WISH rogue would do..... and why they haven't done this yet is beyond me..... is take their trolley system that designed for their jammer arms and engineer it to have a pulley on their. You could literally have an adjustable pulley system with that trolley. Throw in another pulley to attach to the bottom crossmember so you can weave a cable PROPERLY to convert your 6 post rack into a no shit power rack and functional trainer. It wouldn't be that hard to design. Why they haven't yet boggles my damn mind. All you'd need to convert your 6 post track to make the back of it into a functional trainer is an altered trolley containing a swivel pulley, a PROPERLY MEASURED cable, and a box of pulleys to attach to the rack to properly weave the cable through to attach to said trolley to make a no shit proper functional trainer. With the 2 weight stacks, pulley kit and cable, and re- engineered trolleys.... for likely a rogue price of $2500 you can convert your 6 post rack into legitimate functional trainer. I should work for rogue. Or some other competing brand. Doing what I said wouldn't be that difficult to come up with. You'd need the two trolleys with a swivel pulley on them... instead of a jammer arm attachment, about.... 10 pulleys, 12 if you count the one that'll be attached to the stack, and... the stack. Outside of slightly redesigning the trolley, rogue already makes/ sells all this shit. Just package it together.

I decided to go REP due to Rogue not really working a lot of things out for home gym builders. Plus, they NEVER answer my emails about technical questions. I wanted to by USA but really, iPhones are made in China so I guess my Rack can be as well.

Wish you would review the titan functional trainer

If only it had one with weight stacks like the ATX 800 racks

…would have appreciated more info about your configuration with rino…

Titan plate loaded pully tower is where its at.

I actually just struggle to find a website where i could buy a seated cable row machine..

Jokes on you, Coop. I don't have a wife, so I could spend my money to buy whatever unnecessary, but cool gym equipment🤣 I'm so very very alone....😢

I like Rogue, but this was a fail. They’d have been better off making a rack attached plate loaded system like REP. I bought a Spud Inc lat cable and two low row cables along with a few grip attachments. A little creativity with band pegs and I have a lat pull down, cable tricep/bicep and cable crossover all in one.

Hi Coop

Come do a review on my monster cave with the swivel top and bottom pulleys, Delaware not far from you, I want to be on KZfaq lol, You could have first review on youtube

Nice