You typically don't get a whole lot of finesse with high-power hydraulics.

@7McQueezY7 it also depends on the control system. If it is a hydraulic pilot control, you get instantaneous positive feedback from the controls. If the control system is electrical and uses switches and solenoid valves, not so much. Pilot control systems are far superior for control and "feel", but are very complex and expensive. Both to manufacture and maintain. These trucks likely have the electrical control system, not pilot.

Probably don’t care because they aren’t getting “paid enough”

@7McQueezY7 right you are. But there is a huge difference between forestry machines and cranes, compared to garbage trucks. They dgaf about that much finesse when moving garbage cans. Could these garbage trucks be made to handle like other more precision equipment? Oh, absolutely. Are the manufacturers going to build them that way? Only if the customer is going to be willing for the increased price tag. They cheap out on a LOT of stuff on garbage truck bodies and control systems, and use that money elsewhere, like in AR500 plate steel for the hoppers, sweepers, moving wall, and lining the inside of the body, if you're lucky. Other than that, I have yet to see one that had any finesse whatsoever. But again, comparing garbage trucks to cranes is like comparing dog turds to diamonds. Yes, the electronic controls have come a long way. But, to make them work like that there is a LOT of monitoring, computers, extra wiring, and all kinds of stuff. I would put money on it that if those side loader trucks had a bit more finesse on the movements, they would be MUCH easier to use without making a huge mess. But those kinds of features cut into the bottom line, so there goes that, right out the window.

@7McQueezY7 and to add, rather than edit, the simpler they are, the easier they are to fix and keep working. Electronic proportional control of hydraulic systems like that would be almost as far away from simple as you can get.

you wouldn't be laughing if it was your trash can he dropped in the wagon

@@david197407 nothing like some good humor at someone else's expense. I bet he didn't do it again after climbing in the to get it out. 🤣🤣🤣

Me too

@@david197407 this aint a wagon

@@WesternGarbageTrucks wagon, truck, whatever you call it, same thing, where i come from they are called bin wagons

Ikr

@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ Based

Haha 😂

@@SUBARCTICPSYCHO Based on being irrelevant and brainwashed… perhaps a tad obsessed too

😂😂😂😂😂

I started thinking that the camera guy had run along ahead of the truck setting up such a challenge course! Hahaha.

That Mega truck is a piece of S for sure. Must have been the first experimental arm or something.

​@marcuslinton310 the grips on the arm are probably worn out. Most drivers in my company prefer the labrie arms like that one.

mega disposal man smoking a cigar on the job too lol

Not the neck , looking back like that must be a hell on the neck

@@FurthermoreJack suppose use the mirror but sometimes if the carts to close together the eyes alone helps you pin point where to put the grippers

The side loaders in the 80's and 90's were just as hard as the rear loaders...both syles the garbage man would have to physically place the trash into the trucks.

This truck is very luxury. My team also worked on garage truck but we very tired because we use our two hands to pick it up the garage into the truck.

@@glow2590 I drive a frontload curroto truck but still throw a lot in by hand plus large items but still easier that picking up every little thing

Where I live in TX, the trash company provides us with specially designed bins for the truck (kind of like what that guy had at 4:55 except ours are huge and alot tougher). It's big enough that you only need the one, so crowding isn't an issue, and their grabber is this hook that jabs under this two foot wide slot in the front of the bin. Idk if that's a good system, but they're really fast with it...like 5 seconds per stop with no exceptions that I've ever noticed. Where I live, things like public infrastructure and services have always been pretty up to date though, compared to most of the U.S.

those CNG pythons are the most flexible

Like we use here in Sweden kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nZaZnZyJ2sm-Y2Q.html

aussie bins also pretty strong

You're describing the older side loaders that were used in the 90's. They were definitely a better design.

Thanks for watching and your appreciation!

The whole video taught me that sometimes the old ways can't be improved on. These machines and their operators do two things. They turn garbage cans into garbage and take work from people.

That system is just a construction failure all together 😂😂😂

They aren't engineers and don't prefer to be called engineers, they are garbage men, always have been and always will be. It may not be the most glamorous job but it takes a real man to do it. They would all have some choice words for the engineers who designed those abominations that protrude from the truck. Source: Uncle is a former garbage man.

@@jheetman I was being respectful. They might not be engineers, but they deserve honor for what they choose to do for a career when everyone else refuses to do such a dirty job.

That’s so true!

They're mostly alcoholics and and maniacs

Wow as you can see we don’t have that rule

That poor dude in the Mega truck 😂😂😂

In my area they will slap an overloaded sticker on the handle. If the cans are not 2' apart the lid gets a nice yellow reminder.

this/these home owner(s) is a(an) trash human. trying to make a buck off honest hard working Americans just trying to make a living.

Amen

Haha 😂😂

our bins has a notice on the bin that they have to be 3meters apart .. over loaded bins won't be collected with a warning sticker saying why .. if they want it collected it's a 40$ fee to send someone to collect it

@@KAKAFU 3 meters? 9 feet LOL!

Not even half the time the truck is spilling it all over the road cause they didn’t wait the bins are the same it’s the truck that’s crushing them

@@tooterturtle7849 lol .. 1 meter ..

My company won't even pick it up if those conditions exist.

Ya 😂

I died 😅😅😅😂😂

That poor guy! You can tell he was trying his best.

That guy had a day😂

😃😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😅

The front loaders that take my dumpsters all have cameras.

Alot of the trucks have a hopper camera. But it's up to the company if they keep them. Also sometimes they break.... I drove a much older front load that would (if you weren't used to it) send the dumpster. It threw a 2yd to the back of the hopper and smashed the camera and dropped it to the packer. Luckily I wasn't to far from the yard.

In my city the garbage men will refuse to dump the can if the lid isn’t closed

these guys make over a 100k a year they dont need tips. tip the mechanics that work on this crap we make far less in worse conditions

@@the_chomper I just looked it up. I'm in a city of 500k in Kansas. Avg salary is $32k. 9% lower than natl avg. That's actually very sad.

@@the_chomper that’s not true. 🤦‍♂️ at least not in 98% of the country.

You pay for the recycling bin so they can send a separate truck out later and dump the can in with the rest of the junk when it goes back to the dump. 😂

Ya that’s his only manual area tho so that’s not to bad

They would not take the bin in the UK if it's overloaded and the lid is not down

I'm sure that guy appreciated being caught on camera while experiencing all this frustration!

That mega truck is a piece of S or maybe it's the first ever experimental arm still in service.

Also, who puts dirt in a trash can?

@@mrjon1985 well what else are you supposed to do with yard debris, pay a $50 landfill minimum for 10lbs of dirt and take it down there in a Mercedes?

@@sebrofc Not to say I haven't put some shady stuff in a trash can. At least bag it up, you know, hide the evidence.

@@mrjon1985 🤣 I've had to do that with leftover sod. I get what everybody's saying though and I do feel bad for the garbage people especially when homeowners try and throw away furniture and poles and whatever else. If I load my cart heavy I make sure I tape a paper on that says "heavy". As far as heaping the cans go I never ever do that because that stuff ends up everywhere.

or don't invent some stupid small looking machine hand to grab the trashcan and actually do the labor like the good old days.

Happens all the time, you just crush it and keep going. They will get a new one

I concur. While I hate it when they put the cans 3-4 inches apart, I do get a laugh when gripper back hands the other can and it spins. its like, take that mfer.

As a homeowner who has one of these visit each week (and it does a great job) - there is zero customer education provided. They don’t explain how the trucks work, how to load the bin, bin distances, nothing. I watched our truck a few times and sort of figured out what would work best, but the city and the waste companies aren’t doing themselves any favors. As with any machine an education needs to be at least ATTEMPTED at the household level.

Jeopardy questions: What is a comma? What is a punctuation mark?

@@johnmaurer3097 Where I live, the bin distances are molded right on the bin. And, while I don't know how picky they are with our new big bins, the old hand bins, if you over filled it, they'd just leave it with a bright sticker on it telling you that you filled it too high, lol. I saw one neighbor who would always put his bin out backwards. Not sure why, but they must empty it cause he kept doing it. Other tricks, like putting heavy stuff on the bottom, is something people have to figure out on their own, tho. O, and if we would get a new bin, it does come with a flyer, but I forgot what it says.

Did he say Fk it!?

Being an adult is hard work. Trash I a thankless career.

That kind of shit is punishable where I live. You don't put metal pipes into a general garbage bin. It's stupid, potentially dangerous, potentially damaging to the truck, and against the law.

I agree

@@zorkan111 That is what the council or municipality in charge of the bin pickup route would like residents to comply with. Unfortunately they end up having to deal with stupid people who don't care to inquire about what they can put into their bins, and as a result, the garbage truck designer has to over-engineer the compactor mechanism to compensate for residents that don't think to check what should go into their bins. Metal object up to a certain size can actually be quite easily compacted, this is only due to the over-engineered compaction mechanism, and was never intended to be that way. It's easier and simpler for the authority involved to use compactors that will just compact the garbage, this is why most American compactor mechanisms use a large capacity blade or wall compaction mechanism, to simplify things and allow larger oversized objects to be pushed into the back. If designed correctly, the truck still stuffs the offending item into the back of the truck, to the point where it will fall out with the rest of the load. Most garbage is fairly easy to compact and some of it can even break apart if pushed against a rigid object, thus ensuring it goes through the compactor. It's when they have too much rigidity that problems happen, and the truck driver has to return to base to get oversized objects removed from the compactor body. Some compactors are so strong they will quite easily bale metal objects in garbage. Most don't. I will point out that it is on the authority governing the pickup requirements for the resident's bin to ensure that this is adequately policed and adequately monitored. Residents, most of the time, simply don't think, this is because they don't have the time to do it properly. Fines and retraction of bin services can help with this but mostly it's a matter of which contractor will have the equipment that will be able to handle heavy and difficult to compact trash items. It's a competition to find which contractor wants a really trashy contract!

But you have to pay for extra bins 😭

@@lnteIIigence So don’t make so much trash

@@appleintosh Fair point.

Nah. Driver should be skilled enough to work around it. These guys get paid $20 an hour to drive around and push a button, which is already too much. They can learn some basic maneuverability.

@@wanders278 while that is true, on another aspect is they have a route and the sooner they finish the sooner they can go dump the entire load of our CRAP and go home. If they continually return back to yard late because they have to fart around at $20/hour , then they have to answer to the higher-ups. Time is money. It doesn't hurt to do our part ....

it depends on how good the tech is implemented. the mega truck wasn't the best but most of these weren't the operators or Equipments fault

Considering that 20 years ago EVERY trash can had to be manually emptied by workers, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the driver to get out of the truck ONCE IN A WHILE and deal with an issue. Workers have become way too entitled and lazy about stuff lately.

​@@scdevonI'm residential rear load I'm out of the truck every stop

That's probably a big difference from country to country then, because back in the days, when it was all manual in my city (in The Netherlands), bins from a certain residential number of homes would be grouped together at a certain spot in the area, where the truck would stop and get all of them emptied in one go. But the workers would always put them back nicely packed the way they were before they arrived. The bins are still grouped in specific areas, but now all in one line, so the side-loader can easily grab them. Same as in the outer areas, where bins would be placed roadside: no matter automatic or manual collection, they would be put back where they were found. Especially the operators of the side-loaders in my city are good at putting them back at the kerbside, just centimeters where they picked them up from. It's more of a necessity here, as Dutch roads/streets are by far not as wide as most in the US.

Its an option. I've worked on garbage trucks for a while. Most new trucks do.

I'm surprised they don't at least have a stationary camera to look at the arm, or even a big mirror. Probably hard on the neck having to keep looking out each time.

I drive one daily and I’m so sick of it.

New ways are pretty good

I agree. They look good as well

Man in really see you everywhere. We must watch the same videos i guess.

@@pressstart1490 Nup, KZfaq is really sinister how a tiny portion of what's available to see is on offer to watch. The incredible aspect to KZfaq is how much content they totally hide. Got you thinking now!

This is true 👍 in vic au if there is something even hanging out through a closed lid they'll leave it😮 or if nothing is hanging but the lid is not touching the whole way round. it's not just one unhinged driver either, there's two so it appears to be "policy" at this point.

Where I live you can only have 3 bags of garbage a week and if you have more they just leave them

​@@Guillermogonzalazwhat the hell is with that profile picture 😂

Yeah, I feel the same way about the grabber as well. It looks complicated (especially when bins are too close together) and judging by the fact a bin even falls in (which is such a rarity in my country (Netherlands) that I don't even know of a video of it and you usually get a letter from the city council stating that 'the truck unfortunately ate your bin. Within 2 days, someone from the city council will bring you a new one') Ours grab the bins at the ridge beneath the lid, and once they have hooked onto that ridge, a small arm rotates over the ridge, completely securing the bin to the arm, which also enables the operator to whack the living daylight out of a bin if they see (on CCTV) that some refuse is stuck inside the bin.

Are you talking about the huge in ground trash bins that are lifted out with a crane?

It varies by region, but a single driver with the lift system is becoming the most common to prevent the driver from having to get out of the truck and risk getting injured. Some places still have a driver and 1 - 2 people on the back who manually lift and dump trash into the truck.

😂 same here. That was a fun day

same here,not at the operators,but at the absurdities of modern life.

Yup 😂😂😂. That’s how mega does it

😂

😂

Man I couldn't do it. That one where the bin falls in " right you fucking c**ting piece of shit. I'm not gonna get you out. Don't care if they fire me. Shouldn't be such a retard and fall in!!!!"

Imagine having actual garbage men whose job is to put the bags in the truck. Regardless of how they got to the street.

I'm surprised they do it. I'm pretty sure some places they won't even empty the can.

NYC has garbage everywhere laying around so have to have garbage men to pick up it up from the ground. a lot of lack of garbage discipline in NYC. stink

Don’t worry you’ll be in one of them soon. You 3x fail 🤣

Geez that makes me suck just thinking of it. I hope he stays well

My buddy had a guy doing septic system work for him one time. Guy gets done, and proceeds to eat a sandwich. His hands were so dirty, he was leaving dark marks on the bread...

Thank you!

@@TruckMaster642 u are welcome 😊

Our town has centralized collection with an industrial dumpster setup, so never see these where I live.

It completely depends on the side-loader. The ones in my city in The Netherlands do a far better job at handling overstuffed bins and certainly don't use such a complicated grabber. Ours grab the bins by a ridge underneath the bin, where hooks have to be positioned. Once positioned, the arm is slightly lifted, and a small arm rotates over the ridge, securing the bin to the arm. Than the bins are brought up into the air, where they are first brought up into the air perfectly vertical and only rotate at the very last moment (and at quite the speed which prevents an overstuffed bin from losing its contents). Once at the opening in the truck where everything is collected, they whack 'em pretty violently. Multiple CCTV cameras control the area around the truck but also look right inside the bin to check if refuse got stuck or not. It is then placed back on the kerb and usually done at such a speed they even manage to close the lid ;)

​@@weeardguylike to see a video of this!

@@udance4ever If weather works with me I'll try to do one on the second monday of next year. Should have done that this year, but something with time ;)

@@weeardguy yes, that would be cool! 🙏🏼 I did poke around KZfaq a bit & I had no idea you also have these gigantic massive communal bins where they use a crane to lift out of the ground! this is so fascinating to see what other countries do!

@@udance4ever Yep ;) When I was working in Amsterdam, it once happened that something either fell into the concrete 'bunker' the bin sinks into or one half of the bins' bottom opened up while it was re-inserted again: it got stuck about 50 centimeter above ground. The operator of the crane lifted it slightly and let it sink with a bit more speed, to only see it get stuck at the same point again. He lifted slightly higher and used a bit more force, to no avail. He than lifted the thing almost completely and basically let it freefall while connected to his crane. No luck, but he had a huge grin on his face ;) . Especially all the differences in how those underground bins are emptied strikes me: some have 3 loops (like the ones in my city) that attach to the crane, with 2 loops just for lifting it, while the 3rd (middle one) is used to control the opening and closing of the bottom. Upon retracting the thing from the ground, all 3 loops extend something like 60 centimeter and the middle one is than lowered to open the bin up and close it again after emptying. Those in Amsterdam use a different, unidirectional system: a cilindrical pin with multiple ridges sticks out from the bin and (very likely) controls opening and closing in the same way as the ones in my city. And I have seen another system as well, but can't remember what it looked like.

I have to pay $200 in garbage fees every quarter, and I have to pay $29 to throw away ANYTHING that doesn't fit in a bag. That means I have to pay $29 to throw away my $8 rake that broke. And you think I'm giving these guys a tip? You're out of your mind.

I left a tip once for my driver who would wave each week if we saw each other. The day I left it, a different guy was doing the route. He grabbed it, pocketed it, and never once looked over (I had just pulled into the driveway and gotten out of the car) or said thanks.

Didn’t even notice that

Cause idk did WM bought a new truck or they rent from another company because it looks new

Ya we had a lot of trucks down last year so got some rentals

@@TruckMaster642 , oh