idk it all makes sense to me but i’m a backend engineer and i think command line interfaces are super fancy

Their avionics have outstanding UX. Think app problem i a focus problem, not a skills problem

That’s one reason why I chose Apple Watch over a Garmin watch. Tried a Garmin and it was very clunky and non-intuitive.

This new update is so bad that I've stuck my Garmin in the drawer today and I've dug out the Apple Watch Ultra again. The changes are absolutely hideous removes most of the functionality and information and just makes it look more child like it's almost like someone from Windows8 came across their team and decided to make it look like Windows 8 it's absolutely hideous and they deserve to get flamed for this. I've deleted my account and will not be back.

I wondered about this too.

Yeah, I'd be near 100% certain that Daily Suggested Workouts will do a far better job.

I haven't used Garmin coach but I've used the suggested workouts with a race scheduled and it's incredibly boring. only got about 4-5 runs it goes through, the sprints are way too easy, just feels like a moderate interval session rather than a sprint. I guess they can't wreck you but you should feel done after an sprint session. It's just very safe and boring.

To add a different perspective: I started out with garmin coach and have completed several. Since about half a year I'm following DSW. Garmin coach was great because it gave prompts on technique, and some of the coaches gave drills. While DSW only gives you paces, times and number of repeats in different combinations. I'm also curious how people who don't want to run daily use DSW. As a self taught amateur runner, I find it more difficult to make time for strength training with DSW giving me a run every day (excl rest days). On the other hand, DSW is great for the flexibility to cater any race distance at any point in the future, for which GC is much more restrictive. Just to say, there might be enough to cover in a video ;)

@@Dcrainmaker If Garmin listen more carefully what you say than us "ordinary" users, you could ask them as well, why we cannot have DSW visible at least on the Phone. I have seen many complaints that we are not able to save those daily workouts to be "reused" at later date. Even missed yesterday Tempo workout has to be created from screen shot.

Garmin Coach is more engaging, at least until the novelty and suspension of disbelief that you have a real life coach wears off. It would be interesting to know if the algorithms for Coach do update or if they're they're the same as they were 5 years ago. But, I share dizi's and Ray's hypothesis.

Effect or status? I can see the aerobic and anaerobic effects from a recent Zwift ride, but the status seems only to consider running VO2 Max Trend (acc. to the subtitle).

Works fine here.

My zwift rides stops giving aerobic and anaerobic status as of dec 21@@mellowcat42

Nono, they said *affect*. You know. How happy you look while doing threshold workouts. @@mellowcat42

This 100%. We need more control over editing sleep and naps. It's near useless for me and screws up so many other metrics.

Should be illegal for them to even advertise having the ability to record sleep. I have insomnia yet apparently only lie awake 10 minutes each night. Even when i go take a shit at 2AM, I'm doing it while sleeping

What watch do you guys have? Mine works great on the 255

I had the issue on fr645 and then with a 3 year newer model, the fr265. I have no trust in garmin ever fixing it. It makes them sales to advertise it without consequences apparently

My sleep data is pretty accurate...

Yup I agree, that's a minor but useful change. Though, for HRV status, they do actually that, via the 'green tunnel'. Same for acute load.

@@Dcrainmaker Ah yes, I do really like the way they present HRV now actually. Also, great review as always your content is always very honest and reliable thank you.

No, they're gone. :(

@@Dcrainmakerohh, that's bad..

Yeah this is poor UI and looks very outdated.

Yeh but Garmin do not charge you with their scammy subscription yeh? What does whoop do? Recovery bs yeh? You just need to train more not recover more!

I don't know about you but I get actionable insights from Garmin, despite only using the Edge 530 at present. It provides by default what I needed third-party apps for from my Apple Watch. The training readiness readout is something I hope to see in the final version of the revised Connect though.

Go-ahead and pay for it

I want this as well! I would love to be able to put my physio excercises into the app. This comment deserves more attention!

I wasn't going to, but now that you say that, I may have to try a 10 second jump rope activity before I completely poop out. 4 people.

5! I jump rope 3-4 times a week! Great cardio

Isn't fitness age calculated using your vo2 max which is worked from heart rate? My point is... Even if you have not recorded some activities, your heart rate metrics are what counts when it comes to fitness age

@@_Rafiki. no, fitness age takes other things into account as well such as vigorous exercise time, weight (bmi) etc

Discard rather than saving on one device (after you are sure the other device has saved). I save on my watch, and discard on my Edge, as the watch has more complete stats (eg. All day calories).

100%

It is IndieVelo

Yup, correct!

My orange is because the last few weeks we had friends over for the holidays...and...umm...very much depleted our alchohol reserves.

Correct me if I’m wrong. But HRV is not a measurement of fitness but how eg you are coping with recovery, stress, alcohol or other aspects of life. It’s also highly individual and you cannot compare to others.

Technically you can simply plug in your device and grab them there too (Activities folder). If you’re talking from your phone via the GCM app, what’s the use case, out of curiosity?

Ditto. Whenever I want to combine activities into one (long live FIT File Tools), it's annoying I have to go to the GC website on my phone (don't bring my laptop with me on a run). Finishing an activity too early happens more often than one would think.

​@@Matheologiahow? in my case it's rather the other way round

@@Dcrainmaker I want the FIT files so I can selectively upload to Strava without needing to go via a computer or login via mobile Safari. I appreciate it’s a pretty niche case and unlikely to be a priority for Garmin

@@MattSwain1 Gotchya. It sounds like you're probably trying to limit which activities go to Strava. I actually do the same, but slightly differenetly. I've setup AutoSync to Strava, but then on the Strava side, I've set the default privacy setting to 'Private' for newly uploaded activities. This means everything gets sent to Strava instantly, but nothing shows up for anyone unless I toggle that activity to 'Public'. For those that I don't want, I can simply delete them. Much eaiser!

I'm also interested in this, it would be great if someone could provide more information on that :)

Signed up for Beta a week ago so I could answer. I’ve not gotten the invite yet 😢😅

Bugs? In Beta software? How could they!

@@RyonBeachner Haha it’s a disgrace still.

This was testing Indievelo.

There are goals you can set for your daily steps, floors climbed, activity minutes, calories, hydration, etc. You can also join challenges, solo or group, and compete for Badges. You can plan for events/races etc. What more goal-features do you need?

​@@Maxwaehrens Just look at the goals menu within the Adidas Running app. Then you'll know what I "need" more.

On Indievelo bit of a different platform.

It’s IndieVelo

Yeah, it's still kind of just about functional but without any serious insight outside of "you need more sleep" or "you need to run a bit more" which is blindingly obvious to the wearer.

I dont know... but there are stuff like this... like you might need 9 hours of sleep next night or ... do some exercises to reduce PMS for us girls or eat more omega 3 at luteal tine of your period cycle. You need e.g. 5 hours recovery time till your next workout... pr body battery advice how to create ypur day with having a relaxed day or an active day with sports... the evening report of how your day was.

After using apps like apple health I miss garmin connect

@@sapo916 yeah... for me garmin got one of the best apps, i dont know oura or whoop m, maybe these are much better, but in relation to samsung, apple and fitbit, it is much better.

Yeh like you want more stuff for peanuts don’t you? Go get whoop and their scammy subrsciption bs. You can’t even see time on whoop.

That was Indievelo. Cheers!

It’s global.

How did you go back? Wanted to use ECG but it’s not working on the beta.

@@andreaspape8987 go into Settings. Go into Beta program at the top and deselect it and it goes back to the original

@@andreaspape8987 Go to "More" and then Settings in Connect. Go to Beta Program and deselect Join the Beta and it should switch back to the current version

Which device? That's actually not a Garmin Connect thing - but rather, a per-device thing.

@@Dcrainmaker I use the 1030 plus, I have friends that have the same issue that use a different Garmin device.

@@elliotgowland8695 Gotchya. In re-reading your comment, I suspect you've fallen into one of the 'traps' of how virtually every training device/platform works today. In a nutshell, they reward high-intensity heart rate zone time more than lower-intensity time. So I suspect you're 2hr ride probably had some substantial peaks in it (HR intensity-wise). Whereas I suspect you're gravel ride, while tough, may not have had as many really high peaks. I see a similar problem with long-hiking quite often. I can go out and do a 5KM run right now, and at a brisk pace, do 200-250 units of load. Yet...I can go do a 14hr hike with 10,000ft of elevation, at a steady but pressed pace, and only end up with 150-200 units of load. Obviously, for the longer activity, my legs hurt more during/after, due to muscular fatigue. But virtually all training devices only measure aerobic fatigue. The singular exception, and really only for weight-lifting when you tag exactly which movements you're doing, is Whoop. Beyond that, it's all aerobic fatigue.

​@@DcrainmakerThanks for this, it's just annoying that Training Peaks gives a relative TSS for the effort for the long ride but connect is nowhere near that. Garmin normally has me good to train hard the next day but training peaks graph says otherwise.

Assuming it's a Garmin device, it should definitely be taking that into account. Double-check that your 'Preferred Training Device' says 265 (which, I know sounds obvious, but then it'll pull in those other files).