I'm doing exactly this nowadays. I'm still running with both (to have a better all around fitness info on the apple app). But in the near future I'm thinking about dropping the garmin in favor o just the Apple Watch

@@Rota42Videos Agree - the apple watch really just about does it all now. The main reason I own a Garmin is because I find the multi-band GPS far more accurate on the wooded, windy singletrack trails (lots of switchbacks) that I spend most of my time on. The Ultra has multi-band but it is gigantic and expensive - but maybe this will filter down to the regular series soon.

@@Justin-vg7ij Good point. If Apple start to think again about the battery, it would be the perfect watch for me. The battery is really a bummer.

apple watch battery life is beyond laughable compared to garmin watches

I just switched my Apple Watch for the Garmin. The only thing will miss is that in Brazil there’s only one bank that supports NFC and it is not my bank haha. The Garmin’s battery, the native metrics, the garmin coach, the lack of buttons on Apple Watch, the rep counts at the gym (and all the metrics for gym). All of this really caught me.

AW not runner friendly

It looked like he was multiplying height x width in rows of actual pixels, not mere dimensions, just like the resolutions of computer screens.

@@stevek8829 Yeah, but that's for a square (or rectangle for screens with aspect ratios other than 1:1). A circle the same height as a square will have a smaller area. Dimensions or pixels, the result is the same.

@@johnbrooks5903 the picture elements are arranged in an x by y grid, a rectangle, not a perfect circle.

I’m curious if you have an iPhone and find the 265s better than the Apple Watch?

Did you do it? I am debating the same move right now!

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Garmin is way better than Apple Watch, there is no debate about it

😀They should and they could... but they want the 255 guys to buy 265 for that feature

@@SS-kg8qw They're dreaming :P

Training readiness is same with recovery duration, isn't ? And its already on garmin 245

Thinking about getting this one but wondering if I will like the touch screen.. go with a non touch screen?? Or would I miss not having touch screen? I have used apple watch, Samsung watch 5.. and wanting something more sporty

So if you use the watch on a stationary bike, it would track your cadence?

I have 255 Music and the only thing I regret that I took white color instead of more universal black. Looking at the review 255/955 are better gen and there is no need to upgrade for now.

I think u over payed for 255 then I got non music in uk for 250£ when 265 cost in uk 429£

You can return it if you bought it within 30 days afaik

I just returned the 255 Music for the 265. I went to my local running store where I made the original purchase and upgraded with no issues. I wanted to do it right away just in case they sell out or I pass the return date. Initial thoughts: the new display looks great, definitely worth it IMO. Super bright compared to the 255. The touch screen has been nice going through some of the setup too, not sure if I will use that when training, but it's a nice option to have. The wristband feels a little nicer then the 255 to me as well. I have to get used to the display turning on/off on a regular basis as it's a little strange to look down and see a dark screen but a glance or a tap and it comes right on.

I wouldn't think of replacing it. I was looking for a watch with MIP. I could have bought a Venu 2 if I wanted to enjoy AMOLED all day long. But, no! I had the "luck" to use an AMOLED watch, but it was a misery for me. Yes, AMOLED is nicer, but that's where the benefits end (for me). It consumes more power (poorer battery life), and outdoors, especially in sunlight (spring, summer, kayaking, cycling) the readability is incomparable. No buttons to push, no "wake up". The display is always active (not the fake "AOD") and you don't have to worry about getting burnt out. For a sports watch like this, I think the AMOLED is completely unnecessary. They should have come out with a newer Vivoactive with such a display rather than spoil the Forerunner with it.

I suspect there won't be anymore midrange triathlon watches with MIP anymore.

MIP screen looks way better at rest. Only time I prefer Amoled is in maps.

I think the problem with the LTE is that it wasn't available in all countries so if they made it a new model number it would have further annoyed people that couldn't get it....

No, you are not alone. I chose the Forerunner because of the MIP. I'm not a big runner, so I was actually waiting for the Vivoactive 5, but it just wouldn't come, so I got the 255 Music. I love it. I love that I don't have the drawbacks of AMOLED (worse battery life, poor readability, especially outdoors in strong sunlight, and no fear of burn-in). I absolutely do not feel this 265 is an improvement. If I were Garmin, I would have preferred to put AMOLED in the Vivoactive series. I just hope that Garmin will not let go of MIP displays over time, otherwise I will be very sad (and forced to switch ...)

@@elmarflat728 100% agreed! As a runner and cyclist in African sun... The miip screen makes so much sense for me. As you say, hopefully garmin continues to release miip options

I've been waiting for 265 launch to see if it was worth going for instead of 255. It seems that training readiness is minimal added value, I will prefer the 255 and dive into stats rather than have garmin summarise it for me.

I went from 245M to Fenix 7 Solar for battery life...was tempted by 255 but didn't want to risk it....265 looks great but if you want that OLED on all or most of the time it'll kill it. And I like wearing my Garmin 24/7.

Same, i have the 255 and i never thought: " damn i wish my screen was brighter because i cant read the screen" and neither "i wish the battery lasted less" 🤪 Is the 265 screen prettier? Yeah but who cares, i would never buy an ugly ass Garmin anyway if i wanted a prettier watch...

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Enjoy!!!

I don’t think there is any comparison between these two models. They serve completely different purposes.

The Forerunner does get new features, just not training readiness. But it gets the wrist-based running dynamics as well as newer physio true-up stuffs.

Why would you upgrade if they gave you those for free

@@rowschank Silly comment, did you even watch the video? Training readiness and the display are both solid changes

Garmin can't get away from thinking it is competing against itself (and its last version). Managing their (software) code base must be insane. Very different from Apple, but like most other watches.

@@CaptainCook83 I wouldnt upgrade, but i would also not be happy about buying a Garmin in the first place, when im guaranteed this little support afterwards. Imagine if you bought a phone and it just got no updates, because they will release a similar one in 6 months

So a beautiful amoled but end up keeping the brightness to a minimum to save battery? 🤣

@@matteo.ceriotti By the way, I assume that there is no light meter sensor. Now I won't even go into how good I think it was to put an AMOLED in the Forerunner series (I've written about it a few times above), but if it does, without a light sensor it's just useless.

@@elmarflat728 they are trying to get the apple watch userbase

@@matteo.ceriotti lly shouldn't. Garmin is Garmin and Apple Watch is Apple Watch. I think there are very few people who would hesitate between the two brands.

Unless he is using smaller version. Both models use same battery this time so smaller model has more battery life than bigger version because it has a bigger screen to light up

The UI I can live with, but the buttons are horrendous. Same as the wristbands. Whatever they had to get it so right with the 245, they've totally lost it.

The screen protector that I used on my wife's 255 does not work on her new 265. The centre of the protector sticks, but not the edges due to the curvature of the screen.

@@RunnerRemRem oh my. That's what I thought. Thanks anyway.

I had the 965 for 3 months but end up selling it. The size is huge underestimated. I ordered the 265s but I also wished they would make the 965 with an option for a smaller size

Yeah, I haven't quite figured out why the 265 catches slightly more edge glare than the FR965. The curvature seems identical to me, but the bezel-edge area seems a bit more mat to me on the FR965.

​@@Dcrainmaker Gorilla Glass 3 vs DX?

I think these watches are targeted more to those who need a touch and LED screen sport watch than actual athletes. For most people this battery life will be more than sufficient.

@@SS-kg8qw What’s your definition of “an actual athlete”?

@@Dcrainmaker Someone who trains to run competitive marathons, half marathons , triathlons etc.

Why?

The FR 265 is more expensive tho... I think the noticeable difference is the Amoled touchscreen and the added training readiness score. It's not worthy of an upgrade if your watch isn't damaged.

You really think there will be a Venu 3? 🤔

@@tkdshine why wouldn't there be?

@@lenseclipse fair enough. I just hadn't heard any rumblings until now.

@@tkdshine I imagine they will announce it at the end of the year now, maybe January. But Garmin seem very messy with their releases

Yes, in next quarterly update for wrist running dynamics. And correct, zero plans for training readiness.

That would be 33% less for 265 vs 255 or 50% more for 255 vs 265.

Tickr straps are a bad joke, went through 3 in 6 months, and none worked consistently for more than a week, losing connection/HR reading being the main issue. Most satisfaction I got was throwing the last one in the bin at the retailer after they offered me another warranty replacement. Back to the basic Garmin strap and happy with it.

Training readiness Will depends on the activity you did the previous day plus stress etc. its better to listen to your body. They call it agile periodisation

Imagine if they don't keep up with their competitors? Whether it is a Windows or Apple device, they all update as soon as one decides to get one. Even a car is replaced by the next model within months of your purchase. I was happy to get my 745. Surprise! It is just as good as the day I bought it. None of the newer Garmin or Polar models broke my 745. Cheers. 😊

The new training features are probably probably just remixes of the same, limited, measurements. Probably means next to nothing in the real world. Having said that I'm not going to fault Garmin for trying new things.

And that's when it actually manages to stay on :D

Nah. Those port types don’t do well in athletic devices as they clock up with gunk and eventually corrode. Companies have tried, and failed miserably.

@@Dcrainmaker ah I see, thanks Ray!

Apple won’t bring Ultra features to the normal Apple Watch for the same reason Garmin won’t bring new features to older watches.

@@MartijnPeek Nah, Apple will trickle down some of the Ultra’s features over the next couple of years while still improving the Ultra, the same way they trickle down features from their regular watch into the SE. They will over time eat into Garmins market share.

maps will be worth it especially when your mobile can't help you out in the mountains or wilderness.

I have the Apple Watch Ultra and consider switching it for the Garmin 965, still hate the battery life on the Ultra. With WiFi enabled, doing 2 hours of workout and listing to music I only get about 24 hours, but sometimes the battery drains more quickly and after 8 hours it's dead (sometimes process in the background gets hanged or Spotify consumes all the battery). This is the problem with Apple Watches, unless you definitely want a computer on your wrist with smart watch capabilities, your trade off is the battery life. I previously had a Garmin 945LTE and I miss the body battery (quite accurate for me), training readiness, and morning report. Also train with HRV, and Apple Watch Ultra sucks for that and gives me completely random number. So there you have it, if you care about a Watch for health and sports tracking, buy a Garmin. If you don't mind charging your watch every day and even want to call with your watch, buy an Apple Watch ;)

Apparently it can be disabled though, so that's good