Nice to hear, thanks for letting me know 👍

Thanks mate - still think I’d get more clicks tho if I developed a good rack!… Hope you’re well 👍

I’m not sure if the OS map app would work say in Spain or France, but I’m guessing it would. When on the app you can zoom into a few European countries and see the various TET routes say with just the standard OS mapping. I’m guessing there must me an OS map type app in the US tho, so some of what I’m saying will still apply I think. So does the app with your android phone keep you in the centre of the screen as you move along? That was the main issue I had with the rugged Ulefone I bought, and a few people contacted me for advice who were having the same problem. That said I only went that route because the iPhone 6 Plus I had at the time wasn’t waterproof, but then I found out the later ones were, so sold the Ulefone and bought the iPhone 8. It’s such a minefield tho mate isn’t it, a few options and fair bit to think about 🤷🏼‍♂️💪👌

@@twowheeledadventuresuk2739 Yes Mike, in the OS app it does keep the tracking cursor in the centre and moves the map as you ride along your route. I definitely like to use it to check the legality of tracks but I normally don't use it to navigate as I personally find the map a little busy for me and tend to use OSM maps. But I like the idea that you mentioned about pubs and PO's I hadn't really thought about it that way

Thanks dude 👍

Will investigate that - thanks 👍

I really like the SP connect phone mount and case I have, it's so simple to use, nothing to go wrong on it really so it will continue to take a lot of abuse. Unfortunately tho they don't do a wireless charger case for my old Iphone 8 plus. Quadlock do do one tho, so maybe I should have a look, but it's seldom an issue, wet weather problems that is

Lots use the Osmand app, can use that all over Europe, but I love the detail that comes with OS maps. KZfaq is a great resource for learning just about anything, so there’s no need to feel challenged, someone will have made a useful tutorial on whatever it is you’re after 👍

Thanks 🙏

@@twowheeledadventuresuk2739 it’s always nice to hear from experienced riders. I’ve had a Garmin 276cx, which i never ménage to download TET and I’ve sold it now. Can I ask you the which model Rev’it gloves works great with iPhone?

I can see why so many like having 8” tablets mounted on their bikes for navigation because having a little tablet to plan on is far easier than doing it on a smaller phone or device.

Indeed, but I do 99.9% of my riding in the UK as do most UK trail riders. So yes Garmin ace in Europe but for 99.9% of the time a phone is way better in my opinion

And as far as I can tell, the OS map app would work in most mainland European countries but with just a basic mapping similar to Garmin.

Yes it’s an 8 plus. So on iPhone for me it worked perfectly, keeps me in the centre and the map moves as I move. The Ulefone armoured android phone I bought wouldn’t do this, I had to manually move the map along to keep up with where I was. There is a comment on this vid tho where Pete says on his android phone it worked just like my iPhone. To be honest I only bought the android phone as it was waterproof, but then swapped over to the iPhone 8 Plus as they are waterproof.

Best way is join the TRF. I did a vlog last year explaining how to find legal trails. With the TRF you get the green road map, I use it all the time to find new places to go ride

@@twowheeledadventuresuk2739what is trf is it an app

Yes this could be the case, but as I said in the video, if you download the mapping for the route you are doing then you don't need any coverage - you only need a phone signal to download the mapping. As 99.999% of people I meet and talk to don't ever just go off somewhere exploring in the middle of a Moroccan desert of the wilds of Peru, all they need is for something to get them round a route they are going to do here in the UK. If the zumo XT had some decent mapping on it it would be an awesome bit of kit, but sadly the mapping detail just isn't good enough for easy and swift navigation. I have been all over the UK finding new trails, racing in rallies, doing routes such as the TET and my phone and my app have never let me down, always exactly showing where I am and the mapping I need - I have made this video from experience not from my sofa - it just works. Yes if I was to go off to Morocco I'd invest in a Montana, but for 100% of what I do and what 99.999% of what most other people do, a phone is the most practical and effective way to navigate

In 2 years I’ve only been out with the TRF twice. I tend to ride with mates or on my own. The green road map is priceless for me tho and worth the membership.

It's called the OS Map app, mainly a UK app - many seem to recommend the OmsAnd app for use across Europe

OS Maps app

Both - sometimes have credit on my navigation phone but mainly use my normal phone as a hot spot. I don't need a service or data to navigate as I download the mapping for a particular route I'm following before I leave home, then I know I'm good to go once I get to the start of my route. But it's nice to have it if you decide to go off-piste. I do use my nav phone tho for all the other stuff like listening to Spotify whilst riding on the road, internet radio etc. Ive been doing it like this for 3 years now and just find it a simpler and generally a better way of doing it.

@@twowheeledadventuresuk2739 (In the States here BTW) I think that’s the route I want to go. Buy a used iPhone that matches the size and storage I want and dedicate it to navigation. Install my navigation apps, weather app, music etc. Like you said, being able to just pull your phone out of your pocket to do phone stuff, would be a great advantage.

Firstly it's not a review, just how I like to set up and secondly I was answering a question I get asked a lot as I said at the start of the vlog. In many forums such as the Trans Euro Trail Facebook page, many are using and asking questions about the Zumo XT for off-road use, which isn't surprising if you look at Garmin's own website where they sell the thing as a off-road navigation tool. So it most definitely isn't made for just paved roads, and even for that I'd still use my iPhone setup because it's way more practical and useful.