so basically S&BOX is just the Source 2 version of Roblox

the biggest problem that completely ruins this "garry's mod sequel" is the absence of HIM, male_07, literally unplayable, the game is DOOMED.

Fanboy and chum chum ahh player models

The player model is actually just personally infuriating to look at, doesn’t even strike itself as iconic potential. Really hoping that importing custom avatars is possible and not tedious simultaneously. Everything else seems alright for what it is, I guess.

When I think about Garry's Mod, first thing that comes to my mind is John Freeman who was Gordon Freemans brother was one day in an office typing on a computer. He got an email from his brother that said that aliens and monsters were attacking his place and aksed him for help so he went. John Freeman got his computer shut down and wet on the platform to go up to the roof of the building where he left his motorcycle and normal people close because he was in his office lab coat. John Freeman got on his motorcycl and said "its time for me to live up to my family name and face full life consequences" so he had to go. John Freeman ramped off the building and did a backflip and landed. He kept driving down the road and made sure there was no zombies around because he ddint have weapon. The contrysides were nice and the plants were singing and the birds and the sun was almost down from the top of the sky. the mood was set for John Freemans quest to help his brother where he was. John Freeman looked around the countrysides and said "its a good day to do what has to be done by me and help my brother to defeat the enemys". John Freeman was late so he had to drive really fast. A cop car was hiden near by so when John Freeman went by the cops came and wanted to give him a ticket. Here John Freeman saw the first monster because the cop was posessed and had headcrabs. "I cant give you my lisense officer" John Freeman said "Why not?" said the headcrab oficer back to John Freeman. "Because you are headcrab zombie" so John Freeman shot the oficer in the head and drove off thinking "my brother is in trouble there" and went faster. John Freeman had to go faster like the speed of sound and got there fast because Gordon needed him where he was. John Freeman looked at road signs and saw "Ravenholm" with someons writing under it saying "u shudnt come here" so John Freeman almost turned around but heard screaming like Gordon so he went faster again. John Freeman drove in and did another flip n jumped off his motorbike and the motor bike took out some headcrab zombies infront of John Freeman. John Freeman smiled and walked fast. John Freeman then looked on the ground and found wepon so he pickd it up and fired fast at zombie goasts in front of a house. John Freeman said "Zombie goasts leave this place" and the zombie goasts said "but this is our house" and John Freeman felt sorry for them becaus they couldnt live there anymore because they were zombie goasts so he blew up the house and killed the zombie goasts so they were at piece. Then John Freeman herd another scream from his brother so he kept walking really faster to get where he was. Ravenholdm was nothing like the countrysides there was no birds singing and the pants were dead and teh dirt was messy and bloody from headcrabs. When John Freeman got to where the screaming was started from he found his brother Gorden Freeman fightin the final bosss and Gordon said "John Freeman! Over here!" so John Freeman went there to where Gordon Freeman was fighting. John Freeman fired his bullet from teh gun really fast and the bullets went and shot the final boss in the eyes and the final boss couldnt see. Gordon Freeman said "its time to end this ones and for all!" and punched the final boss in the face and the final boss fell. John Freeman said "thanks i could help, bro" and Gordon Freeman said "you should come here earlier next time" and they laughed. The laughed overed quickly though because John Freeman yelled "LOOK OUT BRO!" and pointed up to the top of the sky. Gordon Freeman looked up and said "NOO! John Freeman run out of here fast as you can!" and John Freeman walked real fast out. John Freeman loked back and saw Gordon get steppd on by the next boss and he was mad and angry. "I'll get you back evil boss!" John Freeman yelled at the top of lungs. to be continued..?

Larry's Modification

My god every new game is trying to become a platform, Fortnite changed from a Battle Royale only game to Roblox 2 and now we'll get Roblox's another spiritual successor, the Roblox 3- I mean the Sandbox

No way we got back 4 Garry

hopefully the s&box supports custom playermodels ranging from realistic humans into anime girls. the peengus model works well as a default but not all people wants to play as a sausage man.

personally i dont see this blowing up any time soon, the hype of a potential gmod 2 took a nosedive when people saw what the character model looked like, also, why play gmod 2 when gmod is already an amazing game with an established community and workshop? ontop of that, kids that play roblox are going to continue to play roblox since they aren't really interested because their favourite games are on roblox. the only reason i can see for anyone playing this is to explore the limits of the source 2 engine. however, once that novelty wears off the playerbase will dwindle and settle into a minute community in the best case scenario... the way i see it? if people want a gmod 2 then give them a full fledged gmod 2 with valve assests and workshop support (and for the love of all things holy, ditch the sausage boy) but keep the roblox style game creation as a separate tab in the main menu sort-of like the in-built workshop tab in gmod's main menu. this would create a much better blend for the targeted market for the game rather than grabbing at different groups and cramming them all together. i understand that it's still work-in-progress but i find it to be incredibly important, hell paramount, for a game to know its identity and who it's designed for way before getting into stuff like beta testing and even more so with talks of a public release. it needs to be unique but feel like home and encourage the differing demographics to explore the features that maybe they hadn't planned to upon purchase, it doesn't need to be perfect on release as that can be fine-tuned with updates. that's all it should need from my perspective and i hope they do something about it because it would be disheartening to see this fall into obscurity

Linkin Park jumpscare R.I.P Chester...

If it’s a platform for making new games, that literally means we can just make Garry’s Mod 2 on s&box, with Valve assets and everything. It’s called modding for a reason.

Is Gmod really Gmod without Gman or Male_07? My niece and nephew, who both love Roblox, would love Roblo...I mean Garry's Mod 2.

5:31 That's literally the definition of nothingness. Garry's Mod IS a sandbox, made of Half-Life 2's assets, sounds, characters, textures, everything! If it was Source 2, I'd at least expect Half-Life: Alyx's things the same way!

marry god's two

Instructions unclear. I now have a 500+ mod S&Box Realism collection.

This is gonna be the POSTAL 3 of Garry

I think I'll be sticking to Garry's Mod unless a few conditions are met. Those being: It's easy to import custom player models. The pingus men just don't do it for me. Local mod support, as this is clearly being made as a platform for games, this is going to mean not only will that platform be more heavily controlled, but we are going to see an influx of microtransactions in this game, so I want to be able to easily locally import mods as well, so modders have more creative freedom, especially when it comes to assets from certain companies. And most importantly: Dedicated servers just like Garry's Mod has. If there's no dedicated servers I'm not touching this.

4:16 holy shit they made Smash Hit for pc

7:06 noclick you are not blinded by nostalgia 🙏 GMOD is my GOAT and S&B is definitely NOT what i expected...I expected so much more with the source 2 while it still looks like Garry's Mod But Even Better....But....This 😨AIN'T my gmod

Gotta say you talking in your videos has to be one of the smartest things to do for your channel, it's way more enjoyable, your voice is nice to listen to and it probably feels less like a "content farm" like certain people described your channel as lol hope you keep it like this!! :D

About the Steam Workshop part, they might make the game available on consoles and the Steam Workshop does not function properly on console devices.

7:08 you aren't blinded by nostalgia, gmod wouldn't have gotten as popular if it hadent had used other source game assets. Gmod shorts featuring tf2, l4d, hl2 etc was hilarious and was recognizable. It was massive free advertisement and made other source game communities wanna play gmod. I doubt s&box will be as popular for that reason alone. Being able to easily import other games maps and characters working right out the box and mounted was awesome. I'd say they should just bite the bullet and use half life alyxs models as the base assets. Or atleast use Rust's assets and not the god awful looking Terry model

I had access to the game in 2020, and before it was more like a successor to Garrys mod, because there were addons and the main game you would try was the sandbox gamemode, and the other games were more like the server browser that Garrysmod has.

Jerry's Modified

Waiting for someone to port Garry's Mod to S&Box

That title I can easily agree with, the most I can think of outside of S&BOX is that one Half Life Alyx addon on gm construct allowing you to just spawn in most half life alyx npcs and props

The reason why they removed the Steam Workshop is because they made a faster way to download assets when you join games with the asset party website. This game should be called an "evolution" from Garry's Mod. And yeah they should make a sandbox gamemode because its crucial to the games success

Garry's mod 3 when?

Garry's Mod 2 is not Garry's Mod

8:35 omg that fits way too well, i hate it XD

Since there are no HL assets, or unique identity, i think it will fail. Just like Epic game's, Core did, yeah i barely remember it too.

>"beat saber but for pc" >gameplay of a ddr like game You're smoothbrained

Honestly with how bad developing mods for S&Box is, and Garry's attitude towards mod devs, I'm not buying it.

I'm hopeful that there will be a mod that replaces the player models so we won't see the sausage as there are replacers for gmod, and I'm hoping that the sandbox mode will allow for many custom game modes to function similarly to how it does in gmod.

1:11 One thing, I don't know why It doesn't even matter how hard you try Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme To explain in due time all I know Time is a valuable thing Watch it fly by as the pendulum swings Watch it count down to the end of the day The clock ticks life away, it's so unreal (It's so unreal) Didn't look out below Watch the time go right out the window Tryin' to hold on, didn't even know I wasted it all just to watch you go [Pre-Chorus: Mike Shinoda] I kept everything inside And even though I tried, it all fell apart What it meant to me will eventually be A memory of a time when I tried so hard [Chorus: Chester Bennington] I tried so hard and got so far But in the end it doesn't even matter I had to fall to lose it all But in the end it doesn't even matter [Verse 2: Mike Shinoda & Chester Bennington] One thing, I don't know why It doesn't even matter how hard you try Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme To remind myself how I tried so hard In spite of the way you were mockin' me Actin' like I was part of your property Rememberin' all the times you fought with me I'm surprised it got so far Things aren't the way they were before You wouldn't even recognize me anymore Not that you knew me back then But it all comes back to me in the end [Pre-Chorus: Mike Shinoda] You kept everything inside And even though I tried, it all fell apart What it meant to me will eventually be A memory of a time when I tried so hard [Chorus: Chester Bennington] I tried so hard and got so far But in the end it doesn't even matter I had to fall to lose it all But in the end it doesn't even matter [Bridge: Chester Bennington] I've put my trust in you Pushed as far as I can go For all this There's only one thing you should know I've put my trust in you Pushed as far as I can go For all this There's only one thing you should know [Chorus: Chester Bennington] I tried so hard and got so far But in the end it doesn't even matter I had to fall to lose it all But in the end it doesn't even matter

How to make GMOD 2: Pay for Valve Assets, Create s&box competitor, Piss off Garry Newman.

You said the sandbox mode wasn’t available. Depending on how that is I think it’ll make or break the Gmod or Roblox feel. If S&dbox Sandbox pulls source 2 assets from other games like Alyx and CS2 and we get steam workshop levels of support then it’ll start to become much of the same. There’s a lot of gmod servers out there that are basically their own source games, they might just be leaning in on that. If we could still get a prop hunt game going then I think it won’t be gone.

4:15 I thought no one remembers Smash Hit 😭

Assetparty exists simply because it's just more flexible and faster to share assets this way rather than the workshop which wouldn't really work with what facepunch wants todo.

2:44 its more like guitar hero but okay dood

I said it before and I'll say it again, if it's a good motivation to make my own playermodel it's a good motivation to just fucking skip entirely. I have to make the models so they aren't so far down the uncanny valley they go into the uncanny core of the uncanny fucking planet, I have to do the fucking code, I have to do the animation and sound effects. I might as well just use an ACTUAL fucking game engine that isn't so buggy and skip the need for this shit altogether. They say there will be custom playermodels, but the problem is the vast, vast majority of content made is going to be for the default playermodel, which mind you, you will have to look at for the ENTIRE FUCKING GAME and not allowing copyrighted content only makes that problem worse. It wouldn't be so bad, but the default playermodel is truly fucking hideous and it only gets worse when it moves and animates and while I might be able to use a better playermodel, MY playermodel isn't the one I have to look at for the most part. And why the fuck should I need fucking mods to not have such a dogshit playermodel anyway?! I think we should expect more from game devs than "it's better with mods!", especially Facepunch. While Garry and his fanbase say "it's not Gmod 2" to deflect criticism, it's telling that their site constantly states it's "THE SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR TO GARRY'S MOD! THE SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR TO GARRY'S MOD! HEY DID YOU KNOW THIS IS THE SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR TO GARRY'S MOD?! THIS IS THE SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR TO GARRY'S MOD!". Overall it just feels like the Back 4 Blood to Garry's Mod's Left 4 Dead, complete with the original being based primarily on ideas and assets by Valve down to the Physgun being a prototype for the gravity gun while the devs keep saying "HEY REMEMBER THAT MUCH BETTER GAME WE MADE? THIS IS THE SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR TO THAT!", at least until someone criticises it for not measuring up to Garry's Mod despite claiming to be it's spiritual successor, which is a BIG red flag. People made content for Garry's Mod because the core of it was fun and the look of it was timeless, and when I look at S&Box all I see is another shit Gmod ripoff, one with a hideous artstyle worse than fucking Cruelty Squad (and in this case it's unintentional) and more bugs than a Brazilian rainforest. One which Garry says might be released this year despite it's constant bugs, something I might accept from an indie studio with limited resources or an studio that has a time limit set by a publisher but most certainly won't from the likes of someone who says he just tosses out his old computer and buys an entire new one whenever he needs an upgrade for one part.

4:16 from what I see, this is a recreation of smash hit, I think it's only available on mobile, because I've only played it on mobile.

cant wait for skibidi toilet on source 2

I guarantee one of the first things people will do when it's released is make a pack with HL:A assets.

everything in the beginning is what i think of, ahhh good days, great days, i miss 2016, i miss the amazing creative ARG's created by amazing people!

Tragic...anyone going to bet the first mods will turn it into gmod 2 anyway...or someone just makes an S2 sandbox not connected to this?

should i say the word ‘Nintendo’ here ?

it feels like theyre just shooting themselves in the foot by not having valve assets. the amount of people flooding in once they have assets from alyx would absolutely make up for whatever they pay valve.

1:10 it starts with

Imagine having this technology only for people to port retro games like Doom, Half-Life 1 multiplayer and Quake 3 into it lol

waltuh... put the sandbox away waltuh... just play gmod waltuh...

sounds a little bit like project spark on steroids on s2

honestly, i feel like adding in some assets from rust (even if its only exclusive to the sandbox gamemode) would really help it form an identity akin to garrys mod

4:16 Man, i love Smash hit. Glad we have it on PC

When he showed smash hit, i said "man i love that game" before realizing what he described it as (fr tho smash hit is underrated af)

Garry's Mod and S&BOX are just different sandbox games, each one with an different identity

About the "Why not use Valve's Assets?" section. Garry actually answered this already and simply put he didn't want to repeat the same problem that Garry's Mod has with almost requiring Counter Strike: Source. This is why game mounting will never be a feature in s&box.

the "beat sabor but pc" game is actually dance dance revolution/osu! mania

What the hell are they thinking

When they finally Relise the game I will try it. And we will see. I want GMOD 2. Let's say I have a lot of h in GMOD.

6:20 Imma go in a little more detail here on why S&Box won't have HLA assets. So basically, Facepunch asked Valve if they could use HLA assets. Valve said "sure bro you just gotta give us 10% extra from every sold copy of your game." With the existing 30% that Steam puts in place, 40% would be like... a lot of money, and because of that and the fact that Facepunch didn't really want S&Box to basically be "sandbox hla," they rejected the offer

9:10 I think it's because the will sell this game on other platforms that do not support steam workshop

No Steam Workshop so they can police copyrighted assets, like HLA stuff.

The avatars for Sandbox are so jarring to look at.

the BEAN character is just disturbing to look at. gives me H3vr hotdog guy vibes but if they were fused with a normal person and turned into that thing

As soon as TF2 Source 2 was DMCA'd and it became clear that we couldn't use valve assets, IP or mechanics I lost a lot of interest with S and box. Part of Garry's mod's charm was the way that it used source engine content. How many gmod animations did you watch built on 2fort or dust 2 or whatever when they were at there peak? How many memory's do you have of spawning in 50 combine enemy's and starting a war against random memes from the 2010s? How many times have we seen gman's face twisted into shapes and forms that's barely even recognisable? Without these what's the point of even playing garry's mod? If all I wanted were updated tools why would I buy this game over just downloading a game engine like Unreal or Godot? It would be free for me to begin developing and there's already a tone of material to work with from tutorials to free assets that I could download and start using to make whatever game came into my head.

I sort of don't like S&Box tbh it's just nothing like Gmod just as you mentioned i really do like Gmod and i kinda don't really like Roblox and S&Box is just not as "Sandbox-y" as Garrys mod at least for now

I think it would be a good thing for people to have a platform to use Source 2 to make cool maps for other people to explore, or an RP map, and being able to use fresh new assets instead of the same old assets from CSS and HL2 that we've been using for damn near 20 years. And it seems like we are finally reaching the limit of what the Source engine and Garry's mod is capable of. Right now, to me the most interesting thing Garry's mod currently has going for it is the mapping community, and it would be nice to see what they would be able to do with Source 2, especially with the spooky atmospheric exploration maps.

came to the conclusion that it would be like roblox 2 halfway thru the video when I saw the variety of games instead of a serverlist half unrelated but I wonder if ROBLOX lua is any different from GMOD lua

I guess the blog posts of the development went past so many people. The reason its made this way is for "gamemodes". These games are basically gamemodes in gmod. Also the whole downloading assets etc was done like this as they revamped how downloading assets happen. Instead of assets being downloaded from the server hosting it, it downloads from the actual content server. On top of this, the reason it does not include assets from other games is to not repeat the issues that came with mounting other games. Like needing to own other games to enjoy content in gmod. Where u needed CS:S to actually see most content.

Honestly i prefer the new direction, i always thought GMod needed more unique gamemodes

Sandbox seems to be going more in the direction of Roblox than it is Garry's Mod, thats really just my view of it though. Edit: Oh thats also the same conclusion you came to lol.

i always thought it was obvious that s&box is going to be a better roblox game, which makes me so hyped to finally see what games people can make on it

Yeah I definitely agree they should not have said it is a spiritual successor to Gmod but at the same time this game does seem pretty cool even if the character models are pretty ugly I mean whenever I can get access to the game I will certainly play it and maybe create a level or two who knows what I do know is this game could be a good platform for new game developers to learn level design

Bro what is that thumbnail it's beautiful

So... S&box had a sandbox mode, but it got removed for some reason.

6:15 to 7:01 reminds me of the titanfall 2 training chapter

love the nu metal references. you have my sub.

Bro when noclick when talking in the begging about source 2 sounds like he's stuggling to speak LOL. Maybe it's because of his accent but it's funny to me.

4:02 i guess you could call this… a morning wood

source 1 is still legendary for its goofy physics

Something I want to say is that gmod is a mod for half life, so it depends in any valve game already installed like tf2 to work, s&box is as you said it is a built from 0 using source 2, so Alyx assets are not a dependency, the separate site for modding is not unique to s&box but there was a time where gmod depended on a site for addoms. The s&box being a roblox copy sorta does not work when you have prop hunt and rp game modes already inside garrys mod, the main thing is that few are the dudes who make them

I think with the right tools we could see legit standalone games that are made with S&Box, Similar to how HL had it's mods into their own games, same could happen with S&Box

My vision of a GMod 2 would be pretty much a direct port of GMod to Source 2, keep the same game with the same assets due to Source 2's backwards compatibility while also having the potential of the new engine

Roblox corp has had too much time in the sun, they have corrupted over time and don’t take user safety seriously in the slightest. I am pleased that S&ndBox may compete with them.

3:20 - of the best *_WHAT_* NOW???

We dont need Garry's Mod 2, we need Garry's Mod on Source 2.

Noclick's mod 2 when

damn, didn't know that roblox have a sequel :D

6:30 on that point, is not about them not wanting to buy, rather than: Garry's mod IS a Half Life MOD, garry did not buy half life assets to use in garry's mod so, S&Box is made from scratch and non related directly to half life. also 2:51 its guita hero 🤚😞

4:16 this is very old mobile game but popular one(it was)

Try to make me play all you want, I will not play any game where the player models look like Fanboy & Chumchum

if gmod 2 isn’t gmod 2, then what is it?

1:11 Is this some fanmade music video for in the virtual end

I thought the team said it won't be like garrys mod?

s&box is 7 years late there are allot of sandbox games like gmod, fortnite, roblox and other dead ones cause when you don't have simple understandable code it is not easy to make people make game modes for your game and allot of people wanna just play games not to make them so they probably will play roblox free or fortnite free. instead of a game that is not what it advertising. it doesn't have the half-life ip behind it or the source game engine as a whole so many people will skip it instead of the more popular gmod, fortnite or roblox as they have community's that are established not hiding behind developer builts. they should make it so it is open to public so they will get players when it releases instead of just the developers that they hooked on.

Not even source 2 anymore, they kinda removed hammer and changed it so much its pretty much its own thing

idk... the sandbox character looks more like a sausage than a lego figure -actually the sandbox characters kinda make me think of the characters from one of rollercoaster tycoon mobile games

3:22 What's the music 🎶?