Gas F250 to Diesel F250... Why? Was I Surprised? Q & A Included!

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@CabanaD 3 жыл бұрын

Last time I was at a dealer I peaked into to the service area and saw 5 diesels with their cabs lifted up/off. That spoke volumes about the difficulty in servicing and repairs. Keeping my ‘11 F150 V8 for now.

@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix 3 жыл бұрын

They're a nightmare!

@singletrackscott1053 3 жыл бұрын

Ask me about my 2020 F250 Lariat 4x4 Tremor 6.7L Diesel. At 6 months old, 7,500 miles, it simply stopped working. Fuel pump ate itself and sent shrapnel through my engine. Took my local Ford dealer 4 weeks to identify the problem (which is amazing to me given that fuel pump issues have been the subject of class action lawsuits for nearly 10 years) and they're still waiting on the "Contamination kit" which is a bundle of parts that will replace the entire fuel delivery system of my truck. (I'm told parts are backordered.). So my BRAND NEW, $70,000+ truck has been at the dealer for 6 weeks (as of tomorrow) with no ETA known on parts. Even after the fuel delivery system is replaced, I'll have a truck that's had metal shavings pumped through the engine due to a part that Ford knew was faulty. Very bummed, and thinking about going back to a gas burner. (For the record, every major US manufacturer uses the same faulty fuel pump (a Bosch CP4) on Diesel engines, and just about each manufacturer has been sued.

@singletrackscott1053 3 жыл бұрын

@Jay Mack gotta get mine fixed first. Ford still has my truck after 8 weeks and apparently parts are hard to come by right now.

@joe1071 2 жыл бұрын

For you this is a good choice. For the guy making the video, so long as he sells once his warranty is up, he made the better choice with the diesel. In 125k miles he probably won't use the warranty, but is at least covered if he does need it. Anything over 100k without warranty can be a money pit nightmare in a hurry with diesels nowadays. Own then under warranty. The people that own them out of warranty will be truck broke

@frazierl7898 2 жыл бұрын

@@singletrackscott1053 i work the parts department at a freightliner dealer and we have trucks sitting for multiple months at a time because parts are so far and few between. It fucking sucks but there really isn't a whole lot i can do about it considering everything is made outside of the US.

@mixflip 4 жыл бұрын

A guy named Mali mish who has a travel channel chose gas vs diesel when he bought his F250 with a camper for his family of 5 living full time on the road in mexico. He said diesel needs DEF and it simplybisnt always available in Mexico. Gas was available everywhere in. North America. Of course he is a traveler who goes outside the USA. Just another note to consider.

@kevinburroughs6583 4 жыл бұрын

Great point on "living" outside the camper. We are the same way mainly spend time outside while camping. The camper is a bonus over a tent if you get caught in a storm with the kids.

@chuckradawick42 4 жыл бұрын

I used to work for a Ford Dealer. By my estimate, 90% of people who bought F-250's & F-350's were folks who had a 1/2 ton truck then got a bigger boat or trailer. They then had a new truck (and a trailer) payment. When I bought my F-350 (Diesel) it cost about $500 more than an F-250. I later got a bigger trailer without concern or additional cost. I'm a regular guy who can only afford one upgrade at a time...for me an F-350 was the way to go.

@wmcnett 4 жыл бұрын

We went from a gas 1500 to a diesel 2500 and am very satisfied. One thing that makes a big difference for us is that standard fuel islands are challenging with a setup that is 55+ feet long. With the diesel we can use the truck stops with lots of room to maneuver. Just an added benefit for some.

@Mike-br4sj 4 жыл бұрын

Went from 2017 3.5 Eco with max tow to a 2016 F350 6.7diesel. Pull our 2018 Imagine 2800BH and absolutely love it. Just got back from the Smokies and the 6.7 didn't miss a beat even getting into some of the stronger winds from the recent hurricane. Best towing decision I've made. Went with F350 in preparation of 5th wheel. Enjoyed the video.

@phantomwalker8251 4 жыл бұрын

the left hand head has problems..but it seems the pollution side is o.k.,dont need to touch,just service...regular services,will keep 3 broken legs going forever.look up ,powerstroke help .com.

@peaceprayer595 Жыл бұрын

It takes at least 300k miles for a diesel to break even with a gas truck when you break it down financially. Buy a diesel if you tow all the time. Waste your money if you don't.

@bullnukeoldman3794 4 жыл бұрын

I purchased a '19 F350 w/6.2 gas engine running through the 4.30 axle that allows me 22k lbs. GCWR (I tow a 41', 16k lb horse trailer w/ living quarters). I previously towed this trailer with my old 7.3 F350 without issue but did not want the additional costs of ownership of the newer diesels with some fairly well documented issues with the 6.7 diesel problems; I chose the gas engine to avoid any diesel-related issues. Comparisons of my very reliable 7.3 (owned 20 years, bought in '99 new): 20mpg unloaded, 11 to 12mpg towing my trailer. The new 6.2: 14mpg unloaded, 8mpg towing. The fuel costs are a wash in my area - there is a $0.60 to $0.70 difference per gallon between gas and diesel thus no real appreciable difference in fuel cost towing. Power when towing up 6 to 7 degree grades between the two engines: less shifting in the diesel (a 6mt) but the auto in the 6.2 does very well albeit at a somewhat higher rpm (diesel torque was 500 lb-ft over a fairly large rpm band, the gas engine torque is 430 lb-ft over a more narrow band around 3800 rpm and has 150 more hp) and seems to pull with somewhat less effort. There was no exhaust brake on my old diesel - lots of wheel braking down hill but the 6.2 auto is surprisingly good at downshifting to engine brake decelerating 11 tons total on the downgrade. Agree that the newer diesels have even more torque and power but I have no problems at all with what the 6.2 can accomplish and do not need to look forward to clogged EGR coolers, radiator leaks, turbo issues, etc. down the road regardless of warranty coverage. As with anything YMMV but the Wandering Weekends guy is happy with his and I am very happy with mine as well. Good video, good discussion.

@loaded.357 Жыл бұрын

Right the dpf filter is 100k service intervals recommended ..that's 4500 bucks every 100k n if ur towing like I do for a living that's like every 75k ...fuck new diesels their junk.

@chrisnwilm 4 жыл бұрын

I found your channel as I was looking at options to go from my 2017 Silverado 1500 Z71. It pulled our 28' bumper pull with no problems, but had many "white knuckle" moments. I was on the fence of a F250 or Chevy 2500HD. I like you "wanted" a diesel, but I knew I needed a 3/4 ton. The Boss; AKA the wife, said don't come home in a gas. I couldn't say no to the 2019 discounts, needless to say, I absolutely love the fact I went with a diesel. Never Forget.

@jerodnichol5781 4 жыл бұрын

Very well said I recently went through the same change in trucks. I had a 14 Ram 2500 6.4 Hemi and moved to a 18 2500 6.7 Cummins. We pull a 34’ Jayco Jayflight like you I will say the 6.4 never let me down one time. For me the diesel has always been a want and I went into it with very high expectations, and yes there is little comparison when it comes to pulling hills but it is a lot of cost when the other option does just fine. I am very happy with my choice but would never say it is a MUST.

@nhlcfl7733 2 жыл бұрын

A very well balanced and accurate information video in gas vs. diesel. You likely saw some of my responses on some of your other videos as I have a 2020 Chevy 6.6L gasser. When I hear you paid as low as a gasoline truck as you did with that 6.7L diesel plus all that warranty, what a great deal 👍🏼. As well, as your real world numbers show, it supports why you log your newer 7.3 Godzilla and why I love my Chevy 6.6L gas unit. Take care from Alberta.

@roywall8169 3 жыл бұрын

Timing is everything. Here we are in May of 2020, and you cannot find a SuperDuty anywhere (new or used). My dealers statewide have zero inventory. Not a buyers market for sure. I just ordered a 2022 F350 with the 7.3L. Excited to get it.........this November. 🙂😳

@j4messcott 2 жыл бұрын

Omg, I wonder how much you would have to pay for gas every year?

@roywall8169 2 жыл бұрын

@@j4messcott as my driving habits and needs do not change, my gas bill will be identical. My previous truck got 13-16 mpg. This new one will be almost identical. 🤘🏻

@terryadams1830 4 жыл бұрын

Great, and fair, review. We bought a 2019 SRW diesel F350 (in platinum white) recently. Love it!

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

thank you!

@texling93 4 жыл бұрын

Good job on the video. Love the diesels power and now satisfied with the 6.2 gas. As others have said......good luck with the diesels. I've talked to people that say the service warranty is good but when needed they have every excuse it doesn't cover your problems.......water in fuel is one of them. I had the 1999 f350 7.3 for 11 years. Best truck I ever had.

@taarnold8681 3 жыл бұрын

Bought my 7.3 in july 1999. At 126,000 Still feels new to me!!

@SteveNoblin 4 жыл бұрын

Diesel use to be cheaper and i'm talking price wise were as it would be almost a dollar cheaper than regular fuel back in the early 90's

@russellcoble9480 4 жыл бұрын

Agree. I only purchased Premium Unleaded with my 2018 F150 with 3.5 EB...and now that I have upgraded to a 2019 F250 6.7 Diesel, my fuel costs have gone down by 40 cents...and my avg mpg stayed nearly the same. I get just got 20.4 mpg highway with the 6.7 Diesel and on the 3.5 EB the most I ever got was 22.3 mpg when using the Eco Mode option. But regular mode driving with the 3.5 EB was around 20.5 mpg. Avg daily driving around town for both the 3.5 EB and the 6.7 Diesel are pretty much the same as well....approx. 17.5 mpg.

@enriquelaroche5370 4 жыл бұрын

Give it time. I have had my 7.3 for 16 years Really like it.

@Weak_juan 4 жыл бұрын

Good honest review. To many viewers watching, this is only applicable to 3/4 or 1ton trucks. Half ton diesels don't have the same power advantage as the HD. Half ton diesels are a bit of a slug especially when loaded since theyre designed for mpg.

@markboyd5319 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a great video! Great realistic insight for someone on the fence. For my application, there's no significant financial advantage either way due to 20% average differential between gas/diesel in my part of the country. I want diesel simply for that relaxed feeling the low RPM torque diesel provides. My only hangup with diesel is a big one; I hunt and fish a lot and I can spend more than 10 days cruising rough dirt roads along the river/forest areas in the mountains, 1-2 miles at a time. Just the kind of usage you really don't want for diesel with EGR and DPF as regen cycles become a real issue. No highways for miles. For that reason, I'm waiting for the 7.3L unless a great deal on a 6.2 comes along. Again, great video!

@cavscout62 4 жыл бұрын

The new 7.3L Ford Gas Engine has very diesel like characteristics and you know if you need service it can be taken to any shop without hassle. I’m a diesel fan as I drove trucks for about 12 years after leaving the Military. I’m not a big Cummins fan as I had 2 of them crater at low mileage and at low rpm with no signs that they had any problems. It’s a shame that politics forced Cat to leave the truck engine market as they are the King of diesel power. From what I’ve seen researching all 3 manufacturers, the engines are all designed for 100K service life! WTF? A diesel should be good for 500K at a MINIMUM! That being said, I believe everyone should buy and drive what they like.😎

@jayhawkarce1816 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video, thanks. I jumped from a 1/2 ton straight to a 250 diesel (2015), and have always wondered about the difference between my truck and a gas version. Definitely a want on my part, live in a fairly flat part of the country, and don't 'need' but like to have that assurance of the exhaust brake. Plus we must drive similarly, my MPG is similar, so interesting to see the differences in annual costs you've seen...makes me feel a little better about the added annual maintenance costs I've seen. Great stuff, keep it up.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Jayhawk ARCE thanks! Sincerely appreciate that!

@comlbbeau 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation, logical and well thought-out. I went through the same mental gymnastics several years ago and decided the 2015 6.2 gasser F-250 short bed SRW in Platinum trim was for me. I drive relatively few miles annually (< 3,000 miles), and tow an equipment trailer with a Kubota tractor (8500 lbs. total weight) perhaps 15% of the time. The 6.2 is more than adequate for all the reasons you allude to, and it has proven reliability. The upcharge for the diesel engine and higher maintenance (and potential higher repair costs) just weren't justified in my particular driving circumstance, but each owner must evaluate their needs and priorities for themselves, as you have done. You have a beautiful truck and should be justifiably proud of it. Happy trails!

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

comlbbeau thanks, as do you! Love a Kubota too! I have one of their zero turns and it’s a beast! Cheers and safe travels.

@jeremyolson2593 4 жыл бұрын

You will absolutely love the diesel in the high mountains like the Rockies and the Bighorns where the passes are 9000’-13000’ passes. That is why we got the diesel. Our Tundra was more than capable, but when you tow a camper over the Bear Tooth pass, the tundra would have burnt through two tanks of gas and the diesel just ran and ran.

@madhuntsadventures 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Thanks for all the great information! My wife and I are looking for a truck now and we’ve truly struggled with the gas/diesel question. Thanks again!

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

If you're like us it is a huge investment! Glad to add some info to the decision. Thank you for watching and commenting!

@compactc9 4 жыл бұрын

I find that I fly off of most stoplights without trying, just nudging the pedal a little gives me quite a bit of power. Most of the time I find just letting the weight of my foot down on the pedal to be too much. My favorite place to just flat out floor it is a highway on ramp, get up to the speed of traffic well before you have to try and merge!

@warrantyron1786 4 жыл бұрын

First, great unbiased review of the differences between gas and diesel trucks. It is easy for me to relate, because I did exactly the same thing last year and ironically ended up with exactly the same truck as you! Totally concur with everything you said. I live in Colorado and have to deal with huge mountain climbs all the time. I'll give credit to my brother who did a towing trip with me a few months back, "the diesel takes all the drama out of towing!" I think that says it all. Happy travels!

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

WarrantyRon no doubt. That said considering the new 7.3 is only $2300 more than the 6.2 option I dont see the diesel being worth 10k extra. Maybe 5k. All those emission parts are getting expensive.

@timmosley3331 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been a auto technician in the car business for almost 40 years and gas is the way to go unless you are towing for a living. Gas trucks last way longer and have more power than in the past. If fuel mileage is a concern just think about how much gasoline you can buy for 10k. Depreciation is the same , if you start off lower then you end lower but percentage wise it’s the same. If you need more power then you have a lot of aftermarket choices to supercharger your gas engine and make way more power.

@WanderingWeekends 3 жыл бұрын

nailed it! I believe most gas hater/diesel fanboys haven't driven a gas truck in many years OR they've simply relied on what their dad or granddad told them about older gas trucks.

@joshschilling645 4 жыл бұрын

The best video to date explaining the real world towing differences between gas and diesel HD trucks. Very interesting information on the new way FORD rates their payload numbers.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Josh Schilling thank you. Sincerely appreciate that!

@walterhernandez7832 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome explanation and thanks for taking time .

@NCSUME1 4 жыл бұрын

The longer you have it and tow with it, the more you will appreciate the additional capabilities. It's a much more pleasant towing experience. I've had 2001 F-250 w 7.3 PSD (which was stolen and the only reason i don't still have it) and a 2016 F-250 6.7 ( both 4x4 Lariat trim). It is a matter of finance and want, but the fact you had higher expectations from get go should tell you something. Love your channel and you seem like a genuinely good guy.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

NCSUME1 sincerely appreciate that. Yes, I do expect to like it more and more. Looking forward to going to the mountains this weekend!!

@bretwalter9043 4 жыл бұрын

So TRUE. The longer you have it the more you appreciate the diesel. I recently purchased a used 2016 Ford F250 (Lariat trim) with 55,000 miles for far less than a new 2019. Glad I went from my 2017 F150 (XLT trim) to this truck. What a difference in pulling our TT. We live in Houston, TX area and we do not plan on off-roading so the non-4-wheel drive was best for us and we gain a few hundred pounds towing capacity no being 4-wheel drive. Yes maintenance is higher on the diesel but if you do your own basic work (oil changes, fuel filter changes, etc.) it's not too bad. Can't say enough about this diesel. It's just great. The 3/4 ton SWD coupled with our Hensley hitch, can't beat it. As a result of this new to us truck, we purchased a new TT. Our new TT is 38' with three slides. We took a 6 week trip to Idaho, Wyoming, South Dakota and boy was this combination great. Great video too by the way.

@themartimus1748 4 жыл бұрын

I love a diesel. I own both. A 2011 F-450 Powestroke. And a 2015 F-250 6.2 gas. It has a 4.30 gear ratio and it pulls really great. It will honesty surprise u. I can change oil in my F-450 for $80 my 6.2 gas is $26. It doesn’t get the fuel mileage my diesel gets but gas is cheaper so it balances out I believe. Gas will get you there no problem. Diesel will get you there faster with less grunt. Bottom line. Buy what you can afford and what you will be happy with

@AgentRacerX 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I appreciate your comment

@revgordon91 Жыл бұрын

Wow! I wasn't expecting that big difference in savings for the diesel vs gas. I appreciate you going into the daily driving experience because I have been comparing the gas vs diesel for some time. The payload Easter Egg is extremely interesting. I like to see your results for this truck.

@NoahTheHomeInspectorTV 4 жыл бұрын

I'm in the market and just wanted to say thanks so much for taking the time to make this video for us.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

The Gilly McGee Show! You’re more than welcome! We’re grateful you watched! Happy shopping.

@NoahTheHomeInspectorTV 4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingWeekends are you guys on instagram?

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Yes! @wanderingwknds

@CommonCentsOutdoorsman 4 жыл бұрын

It's funny that the best truck is always the one you just bought lol... generally speaking of course. Before I bought my eco boost I drove the other makes and models and I really liked them all. Modern trucks are crazy good especially all the towing features they now have so 6 of 1, half dozen the other. We will be towing a 31 ft travel trailer to move out west but once we get settled we will downsize to 25 ft so the 3.5 is more than enough. We towed the 31 ft 1,200 miles so far (over the Appalachians) no problem at all.

@russellcoble9480 4 жыл бұрын

I recently upgraded from a 1/2 ton (2018 Ford F150 Lariat with 3.5 EB) to 3/4 ton (2019 F250 Platinum 6.7 Diesel) about 2 months ago. As you stated, the rebates for the 2019 F250 were super. I haven't had a chance to tow my 2020 GD Reflection 297RSTS yet (TT 29' or 33'11" tongue to tail), but am looking forward to it. Covid-19 and my mom's passing put a damper in our plans. So far a really love the F250 Diesel. So much more torque and power. The 3.5 EB was no slouch though... had no problem towing and it certainly pulled the mountains in AR, NM, and AZ (5K miles total trip) without any issues. Going downhill with 10K lbs pushing you was a little unnerving, but the worst part of towing 10K lbs with the 1/2 ton was the wind and trucks. No sway, but I just felt like the little 1/2 ton F150 was getting pushed around way too much. So I'm really looking forward to towing with the 3/4 ton Diesel. Good friends that went from gas to Diesel have indicated it is a night and day difference. So I'm hoping my experience will be the same. As for the "Cool Factor", I felt the 2018 F150 Lariat was pretty cool, especially with the 3.5 EB. With the Twin Turbo's, it would definitely sit you back in the seat when you stepped on the gas. But the "Cool Factor" of the 2019 Ford F250 Platinum Diesel is SO MUCH better!!! So I feel "Way Cooler"!!!. LOL

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Sorry about your mom! Hopefully you're on the road soon... I'll bet you'll be happy with the truck for sure.

@edpippin 4 жыл бұрын

Good Review thanks for taking the time.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Ed Pippin you’re welcome!

@borderty25 4 жыл бұрын

Great video buddy and thanks for you valuable time.and I wish you the best with your new truck!!!

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

thank you!!

@LeeWinbush 4 жыл бұрын

This is super helpful!

@icu_corey_rn_903 4 жыл бұрын

For towing diesel is never the wrong answer if u can afford it

@davidkendall6801 3 жыл бұрын

Never ending discussion.

@wj2791 4 жыл бұрын

Your comparison on gas to diesel costs are very accurate and easy to follow. Thank you..

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! We're glad anyone watches. Thanks for stopping by!

@wj2791 2 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingWeekends Does your answer changes some with wider spread on Gas to Diesel price lately?

@chrissmith7101 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! I really enjoyed listening to your perspective on these issues. I am pulling a Rockwood 2706WS that sounds like is the same size as your trailer. I tow it with a 2019 4 wheel drive Silverado 1500 that has a 6” lift with 35” tires. I had the truck before the trailer and wasn’t educated about all the weight factors when I bought my trailer. Although it’s within the truck capacity and capabilities it’s not a pleasant time towing this trailer. I’m looking at f-250’s now and struggling with engine choice but after your video I think I’m going to stay with gasoline unless I come across a smoking deal on a new diesel. Thanks for the informative video.

@roycarlsen3335 4 жыл бұрын

I have a half ton gasser, pulling a 30 ft TT. I like the idea of the exhaust braking but another plus for diesel for me would be being able to go through the trucklane at truck stops. Right now we use Google maps to see if there is enough room to maneuver but we often get there to find vehicles blocking us out (or worse -blocking us in after we pull into the one set of pumps we can manage!).

@jasonkonas1222 7 ай бұрын

Thank You so much for the complete ,honest, informative videoes.... Your information spoke directly to me about the Pros and Cons of Gas vs. Diesel along with your first hand experiences and obvious common sense knowledge of this confusing and Expensive subject.....Big Help....God Bless ...!!!!

@WanderingWeekends 7 ай бұрын

Go glad it was useful!!

@benbilling4268 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent review, covered all the bases. I can really relate to ' I'm too old for that' 😀

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Ben Billing 😂😂👍🏻👍🏻

@jerrybowman5546 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. Looking at purchasing a 2019 6.2 u answered all my concerns

@albertjabberin739 4 жыл бұрын

My 6.2 gets about 14.3 mpg mixed city and highway daily. My diesel got about 16, and the mpgs really plummeted in the city, more so than the V8 gas. If I weren’t towing or highway traveling much, I wouldn’t get a diesel, mainly because the egr and emissions crap, too expensive if you’re just an occasional hauler.

@joshedmond2599 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome review/comparison! Thanks for the information.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Josh Edmond you’re welcome! Thanks for watching!

@unapologeticskeptic4739 3 жыл бұрын

He is spot on with the needs vs wants statement. With a difference of roughly $9,000 dollars in purchase cost you can set that aside and have a rebuilt, or new engine, dropped in later if you need it. Granted the diesel should go much farther before a rebuild is needed but I have seen gasers go 300,000 miles before they died. I remember my 1979 Pontiac "Smoke and the Bandit" Edition Trans Am making 220 HP from a 6.6 liter TA Pontiac engine and when I bought it in '83 that was amazing.

@kellyheath8547 3 жыл бұрын

don't ignore the major maintenance required on a diesel, emissions equipment and fuel injectors can be spendy. Either of those systems can cost the same as a new gas longblock.

@rockycadieux4642 4 жыл бұрын

Nice review. 👍🏻 I pull a 23 Jayco with a Chevrolet 1/2 ton 5.3. The more I learn the more I think if I go with a bigger camper I’m going diesel. Preferably a one ton due to similar cost to 3/4 ton.

@fedguy9182 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I was pulling with an F150 5.0 but we were always having to leave items behind to keep within payload. I managed to find a 2019 F350 Lariat SRW diesel in the 6ft vs 8 ft bed and upgraded. My F350 payload is 3525 lbs. We pull a 7400 lb grand design travel trailer but may eventually get a mid size 5th wheel in a few years. The price was not much different between the 250 and 350.

@ed6102 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your video ,I have a 22 ram 2500 Cummins i only use to tow my travel trailer or boat. i love it !

@pbodymathis 4 жыл бұрын

In my business I purchased two F-250 6 L diesels and had no problems running up and down the interstate working in the oil fields. Did not pull a lot of weight and they had a ton of power. What I did not like about the new model was the fact that I could not buy the oil and fuel filters from any local auto parts store and that made the oil changes expensive ($100 in 2004). When I bought the second one you could buy the filters and change your own oil of which I like to do.

@LuisRuiz-sv2mz 4 жыл бұрын

each there own. i love my f350 2006 amarillo.

@badillo50 4 жыл бұрын

I have a 2005 power stroke bulletproofed and I love it.. I love it even more cuz I don’t have to deal with all that emissions laws and the DEF 👍👍👍👍

@mattbod 4 жыл бұрын

Yea Diesel engines are dying in Europe because of this and half of all cars were Diesel in the mid noughties. All the extra plumbing, turbo, injectors etc when they go wrong the costs are huge.

@drome010381 3 жыл бұрын

@@mattbod haha huge does not do it justice!

@kylejohnson3892 3 жыл бұрын

Delete ftw

@curtgjerstad8821 3 жыл бұрын

There should not be any "bulletproofing" needed on any factory diesel engine.....period!

@lightninsadventures2692 3 жыл бұрын

@@curtgjerstad8821 you're right, there shouldn't be, but every American diesel pickup 2013 and on has DEF and Regen, which needs deleted for reliability and efficientcy

@rickbeyer6633 4 жыл бұрын

Very fair comparison and it matches my experience. HAD a 2016 F-250 with 6.2. It actually towed great in Oregon where basic speed is 55 mph. We could average 8.0 mpg towing our 5th wheel (except in the mountains). Terrible in Idaho with 65 basic speed (even higher mph on freeways). Averaged 6.0 mpg towing. I traded for a 2019 F-350 with the 6.7 Powerstroke and as you say "I got what I expected". Very happy with the upgrade so far, especially with the lack of the stress I feel compared with the 6.2 with the constant shifting of gears while trying to maintain speed on rolling terrain. If I had cruise set, the transmission would shift from 6th gear all the way to 2nd trying to maintain 55 mph. New subscriber!

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Rick Beyer welcome!! Sounds like some scenic camping!! Can’t wait to RV out west!

@jakebrady4133 4 жыл бұрын

Great video thanks for the chart

@vancitycoaster 4 жыл бұрын

Your going to help clear out the 19’s lol I have some of the identical thoughts you went over about the new truck and I’m just waiting to drive the new gas 7.3 And see how it is before I throw down.

@TheManhu01 3 жыл бұрын

Payload capacity for the gas is almost a 1000 more. A 2019 F250 gas payload capacity is 3300 pounds. Beautiful truck

@simonh9819 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review. Good insight to a decision I’ll have to make down the line

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Simon H how’s it going?!

@simonh9819 4 жыл бұрын

Great thanks. I switch the name from SH because it was not obvious :-). Hope you are both doing well

@darrenbellouny9017 4 жыл бұрын

Great comparison very relevant.

@kwyer1963 4 жыл бұрын

For long haul trips with camper it’s so much easier to go through the big truck diesel line with a trailer than having to get through a gas pump area at most truck stops. I consider this a major factor in the decision process.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

no doubt... plus it makes you feel cool to line up with the big rigs, haha!

@kwyer1963 4 жыл бұрын

Wandering Weekends we did a 6,300 mile trip in the late summer of 2017 to the Rockies coming out of Nashville TN with a big gas engine setup and a diesel would have made that trip so much more enjoyable for me, the only driver. We are doing Canadian Rockies in summer 2022 going west from Calgary on the trans Canadian Highway 1 through to Vancouver and down to Seattle and I will have a nice diesel for that trip.

@jjsroofing860 3 жыл бұрын

I just went from an 06 F-250 6.0 to a new 2020 F-250 6.2 and love it. I know the new 6.7 is a beast but I’m very satisfied with the 6.2 gasser.

@jjsroofing860 3 жыл бұрын

Jay Mack the 7.3 and 10 speed are new. I knew the 6.2 and 6 speed were proven. But who knows the 7.3 might prove to be good. I like to give them a couple years to get the bugs out.

@VulturousStuff Жыл бұрын

Trying to transition from living in a 4 door sedan for years to a truck and trailer appreciate the video

@Cla55clown 4 жыл бұрын

Two things: you get some of that money back on the back end sale of your diesel. I hear short trips around town that don't allow the diesel to fully warm up can cause damage and emissions issues.

@Pilot545 4 жыл бұрын

I think I prob would have made the same decision. My biggest issue with the diesel is that upfront cost. You can get a LOT of options by sticking with a gasser for that nearly $10K. Once that cost is taken out of the equation, I think diesel would be the easy choice. Great vid and good choice! (FYI: I have a ‘18 F150 and tow a 32’ Jayco. I understand its limitations and am envious of you but I enjoy the daily drivability of the half ton...plus, we tow mostly in FL BUT I can def see an F250 in our future...only because I WANT one). DEF very interesting about Ford’s new payload definition. And great explanation on wants vs needs. MANY MANY people confuse the two! And damn, what a down to earth and genuine guy you seem! Hope our paths cross one day out camping if you’re ever down near Melbourne, FL.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man... I appreciate that. Never hesitate to say hi if you see us out. We aren't in Florida much now but that'll change when the kiddos are up for longer trips. Happy camping!

@pujdomoj 4 жыл бұрын

You all mention up front cost but forgetting resale value.

@Pilot545 4 жыл бұрын

pujdo moj For most people, the upfront cost is what matters most. Besides, you aren’t going to recoup the full $10k-ish on resale anyway. At BEST you will break even. So, no, I don’t think most people are thinking resale when trying to deal on a $60-80k truck. They want the best deal possible to get it in their driveway.

@circlegoutdoors9388 4 жыл бұрын

Great video !!! I knew you would love the exhaust brake!!!

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

CircleGOutdoors no doubt!! Thanks for the question!

@stanherbert3772 4 жыл бұрын

Great job on explaining everything I look forward to buying 250 day 👍🏾

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Stan Herbert thanks! Enjoy shopping!

@bbhrdzaz 4 жыл бұрын

I drive my 2016 F250 15k miles a year with 2000 miles towing travel trailer. my numbers differ, 16mpg commuting, 11-11.5 mountain towing. fuel filter, $56.50 on amazon change it myself, change every 15K. Oil changes at dealer every 7.5k, $89 each change. hard to beat that price so don't do it myself. DEF, DIY. wish i had your fuel cost. in Phx AZ, it has been hovering around $3/gal. The diesel makes sense for me where I tow. Arizona and the west is mountainous. I tow 8000lb payload at elevations from 1230ft (home) to 9200ft (camping in the White Mtns). Its up one mountain 3500ft and down then the next range 4500, then the Mogollon Rim6000ft, then the White mountains 7-10k ft. What happens at altitude, is that an engine cannot make as much torque and horsepower. that additional torque/horsepower makes the difference, doesnt suffer even at 9000 ft. with my payload, I can easily forget i am even towing my 30ft, 7500lb trailer with cargo in the bed. BTW, I have the 50gal Titan Fuel Tank. Weight of the truck makes towing a breeze. If I was a flatlander, gas engine would be sufficient.

@roxannemikekirkendall6456 3 жыл бұрын

Start buying your Auto Parts at RockAuto it's cheaper

@johnjackson9564 4 жыл бұрын

Very good comparison. I love that you found and shared the Easter egg information. I am a Cummins guy and currently have my third Cummins pickup (2018). Every model was better than the last. We looked hard at the Ford in 2018 when we bought and loved some of the features, but decided the Ram fit our desires and needs better. It is a personal choice. You hit it right on with your comparisons. One thing which I will add is life expectancy and resale of diesel over gas. I wouldn’t make a choice solely on this but it is one more factor. Keep making honest videos. PS I also have bought and run class 8 trucks and have always been a diesel fan even before the diesel pickups came along.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

John Jackson thank you!

@UncleFester283 3 жыл бұрын

Great video and very detailed! this video earned you a sub! keep making great quality videos bro!

@WanderingWeekends 3 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

@billgailcunningham6903 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Out of the many comparison videos on anything, I appreciate yours the best. You gave down to earth honest answers. You didn't badmouth the Gas version. You showed real time fuel economy figures. Bravo!

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

I sincerely appreciate that! They're both good trucks.

@JauntJunkies 4 жыл бұрын

Love my diesels. Would never go back. I have not had any def problems on either that I have owned with the new emissions systems.

@wedding6165 4 жыл бұрын

@wzrubicon 1 we live where its 20 below a lot. Diesels suck!! fuel gels, you have to mount your extension cord reel to the front bumper like a winch.

@nbooker7504 4 жыл бұрын

Love your review I am a proud owner of a 2001 7.3 370,000 miles everyday driver and worked a lot on the farm never had any engine or turbo problems whatsoever but compared to gas engines the same model and pulling goosenecks side by side it blows them away especially around these mountains where I’m from.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

The ole 7.3's are legendary!!

@melrobinson6919 4 жыл бұрын

Ditto here, being the original owner of an '01 7.3, but only have 156,000 on her. The only weak spot is the 4R100 tranny. I still have the Western Diesel Tri-Power chip installed that really woke up the engine, but probably contributed to the tranny going out twice, but it is a dog stock. No plans to ever sell her...

@robertlee6783 3 жыл бұрын

I have 99 f350 473 k on it

@genehart261 3 жыл бұрын

I bought my Cummins powered Dodge in Oct, 2000 and I still have it. No reason to change, still a great truck. Cheap to license, cheap to maintain, no DEF.

@SlingShotNinja 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you brother. Its very helpful. God Bless

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!!

@historygradstu 4 жыл бұрын

went from diesel to gas gmc 2500 6.0 gasser, then back to diesel. got a 6.7 cummins to pull our tag-along camper. when on some steep grades, there is no comparison for acceleration and pulling....and the exhaust brake is fantastic!

@spin0491 3 жыл бұрын

People who tow heavy and often will only understand your statement.....been saying it for a while that’s why a Diesel engine is superior in towing with torque levels being more than double over gas engine fortunately in all application ships/ machines whatever you can replace that instant power and ease of driving when engine is barely working and tranny is barely shifting unfortunately emission is killing these but mine is delete and breaths beautifully!!!!!!

@kevincameron8437 4 жыл бұрын

I second the exhaust brake being awesome! ESP when towing in the mountains.

@nmelkhunter1 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, especially!

@drdwgmd14 3 жыл бұрын

What is an exhaust brake?

@LeeWinbush 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for answering my question!!! Leaning F250 gas for now from our 17 Expedition EL.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Lee Winbush thanks for asking!! Happy camping!

@ralemc1960 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@myleshansel7950 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats on the new truck, don't baby the truck. The DPF and the exhaust system needs to be run hard to keep it cleaned out. When buying DEF check the date, you don't want old fluid or buy from a local truck stop. On a side note I could have sworn I seen you shopping at Costco in Buford if it wasn't you it was you're twin brother. If it was I'd love to have lunch and hear about all the camping you've done besides watching all of you're videos.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Myles Hansel great points! That could well have been me in Costco. Buford is our store. Never hesitate to say hi if you see me/us out. Always happy to talk camping! We need to have a meet up for the channel sometime. I just always worry no one would show up 😂😂

@Valor_73737 4 жыл бұрын

I have been pulling heavy stock and horse trailers since the '70s! I learned three things favoring diesels! One, they get better fuel mileage! Two, a lot of towing usually requires valve jobs on gas engines because of the increased combustion chamber temperatures! Under load, the combustion chamber temps on a diesel are much lower! Three, properly maintained diesels are good for multiple hundreds of thousand miles without overhaul. These are the reasons over road big rigs are ALL diesel! If one seldom tows gas is probably the best way to go. But if towing any weight at all is the norm, diesels are best! My current diesel has over 285,000 reliable miles on it, well over half of that has been pulling from 3 to 6 tons all over the nation! My last gas powered truck needed a valve job at 38,000 miles!.

@loaded.357 Жыл бұрын

And I hotshot and diesel newer ones after they came with dpf n egrs are junk my 20 years of hotshoting I've put on more miles then you bet on that I'm on the road 5 days a week no less then 11 hrs of driving a day ...I'll take a newer gas for none cdl loads over a newer diesel any day those emission systems make diesels junk.

@Valor_73737 Жыл бұрын

@@loaded.357 That could be if you don't tow that much! One of the reasons I still drive an '06 model is because of these newer emission systems. I don't care to mess with that fuel additive. Just turned over 300,000 mine. At least half of that is towing miles.

@loaded.357 Жыл бұрын

@@Valor_73737 bought a 2015 f250 6.7 powerstroke last November bought at 89k now has 254k cost of maintaining it is double then a gas and I've pulled with a 6.6 chevy gaser well my 2015 was in getting the dpf filter replaced 4500 bucks right there ...I'll be buying a 7.3 gaser in few years yeah the lower torque means i can't do 70 mph up the 7% n 9% grades but 60mph is good enough ..probably put over 200k on the diesel once this year is done ... hotshot trucking most often you can average 250k a year maybe 300k ..

@roywhiteeagle9058 4 жыл бұрын

Well done and very informative .... thanks buddy. I just went Desiree a couple years ago too.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Roy Whiteeagle thank you sir!

@tomm3338 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. The chart was a good thing to show real world numbers

@WanderingWeekends 3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate you watching!

@rvninnorthcarolina3377 4 жыл бұрын

Rebate was the key. When I bought in December, it was a 10,000 hit over a similar gasser. That helped my decision to go gas after owning 3 smokers!

@user-jy1md7vk1w 2 жыл бұрын

2022 would like to have a word... ;) For towing our trailer, we needed to upgrade our 2016 F150 to a F350 in Spring 2022. Every Ford dealer wanted $15,000 over MSRP and you had to take whatever the dealer got in, no negotiations, no choosing your options or add-ons. Some dealers had nothing at all to sell for F250-F450, except for customer orders arriving 8-12mos after ordering, and if the customer didn't want it then that's what they could sell. Ford stopped taking orders months ago, and dealers told me they are hoping ordering opens back up in August 2022. Dealer and others online said the same long game happened in 2021. "Rebates" are non-existent ever since chip shortages got worse in the past 3-4 years, and then covid + lockdowns hit supply chains for the past 2yrs. You are lucky to have bought before these crazy truck buying times hit.

@larryselfridge6733 4 жыл бұрын

The only downside I find to my Diesels is the winter. Addative/anti gel every tank. And I let mine warm up longer. But I love the exhaust brake. I do tow 5-14k 3-4 times a week. If I needed to replace it today I’d lean toward the new 7.3. Both of mine are diesel Dodge Rams a 97 3500 with 310000 and an 18 3500 with 17500.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Larry Selfridge new 7.3 is certainly attractive. Thank you for watching and commenting!

@jeremywalker1769 4 жыл бұрын

Love the honesty. Subscribed.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Walker sincerely appreciate that!

@keshmo12 4 жыл бұрын

I got a 2011 F250 with the 6.2 and idk how people drive it but my average for the past 20k miles is 14.7. Only towed like 1,000 miles or so. The previous owner got like 11.5 and idled it all day long (like 1500 idle hours on a truck with 90k miles!). I agree with you on the towing mpg though lol. It's like 8-9 mpg all the time. My dad has the 2015 f250 with the diesel. Same truck configuration. He get's like 17-18 mpg. But the 6.7 has so much more power but it looks like a pain to work on anything under the hood when you have the 2 trucks side by side. You can see the ground looking at the engine in the 6.2! Good video though I liked the comparison.

@dieselpower718 4 жыл бұрын

Great review, you’ve broke out my questions I always had. I think I may try out the 7.3 when it has some real time out in the world

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

I'm looking forward to driving it for sure...

@PatriotPaulUSA 4 жыл бұрын

Great video by the way, good explanation. I am sure the 7.3 or the diesel is a huge step up from the old truck as far as torque/hp/fuel for you. I love the diesels if you have the load needed for it. Glad you got the deal you got, on the truck, happy trails.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Sincerely appreciate that! Safe travels.

@kodywilder7202 4 жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed your video I run 2012 f350 6.2L pull a 32ft 9000lb

@nbankxworld8614 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks for your honest opinion.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad it came across sincere... it is.

@SorinNicu 4 жыл бұрын

Nice review! About the $510 savings a year. Considering the financing interest, at $9500 borrowed extra, you need 25 years to make up the price difference and start saving money. And if you drive less in any of those years... it extends the duration.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Sorin Nicu yep... at least 18... price of emission components have really made these diesels less attractive.

@wilburcalhoun7049 4 жыл бұрын

Great video I am a 6.4 owner myself but the one area u didnt hit was the resale value do diesel still hold a better resale than gas

@randylheureux4468 11 ай бұрын

A really informative video, thanks. We are about a year away from trailer and truck purchase. Our plan is to have the truck less than 10 years. Those will be spent with several months of towing each year throughout North America. I know one can’t predict the future but at this time is the increased upfront purchase cost of the diesel offset typically by a higher resale value than the gas truck. All things like condition and mileage, options being equal. Thanks.

@DukesofoffroadHazzard 4 жыл бұрын

I have a 2010 v10 and just bought a 2006 diesel f250. I also did a video of my trucks brother!!! My v10 has 200,000 miles and towed 14,000lbs with it and only had a catalytic converter go bad! Had to retire her and get a diesel! Best of luck. Videos of my trucks in my profile.

@frankmoreau8847 4 жыл бұрын

Regarding the downshifting. Talk to the guys with the really big torque diesels about downshifting, I mean the ones driving Kenworths, Petrbilts and Macks. Downshifting on a grade is a part of life. At least you were able to maintain your speed and that is the biggest thing. I've driven up more than on mountain pass a 35 to 40 mph with 80,000 gross load of lumber..

@spin0491 3 жыл бұрын

Gas has to down shift multiple times up and down constantly diesel most of time can power thru it way easier semi just puts it in his hill powering gear and let the torque power him up engine/exhaust brake down which I love about a diesel not having to pump brakes/hold brakes on a hill life saver man.....

@traviskorda3262 4 жыл бұрын

Wait a minute that's defining 'Cargo weight rating' not actual Payload. I'm not sure about that I'll have to look into it

@scottmichel9582 4 жыл бұрын

Very well done Cory Love that truck.

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

scott Michel thanks Scott!

@craigleidigjr4170 4 жыл бұрын

Wat a Great video good Q&A. Thank you. 👍

@WanderingWeekends 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@Soladaddy 4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good deal for a new one because they won't be discounting the new 7.3s for a while. Odds are this time next year the 7.3 will have normal discounts like the rest on the models.