gasification steam boiler and steam motor with grid tied electrical motor being run as a generator.

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DON SCHMIDTKE

DON SCHMIDTKE

Күн бұрын

This is part of an on-going project. During today's testing we are trying to run a modified 8 hp single cylinder gas engine that has been converted to run on steam. It is connected to a 2 hp 3600 rpm 3 phase induction electric motor, that is wired for 230 volt three phase. However, the third phase line is tied off and we have connected the motor to 230 volt single phase. This is the standard house hold voltage. The steam engine is now used to start the electric induction motor and bring the motor above the rated speed of 3600 rpm. We have the speed of the steam engine at 1200 rpm with a 3x speed reduction between the generator and the engine. Then the electrical is connected to the grid and the steam motor is slowed and labors to turn the electric motor faster than the grid speed of 60 hrtz. This effectively make the motor into a grid tied generator. The sine wave is pure sine without THD and the entire system is grid tied without messing around with DC batteries or inverter drives. During this test we were producing approximately 1400 watts.

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@Barskor1
@Barskor1 4 жыл бұрын
It may shock you to learn this but water boils at 30c in a vacuum and returns to liquid at 29c the expansion rates are the same no matter how the water boils. This means in a closed system you can run a steam engine off heat from the sun and endothermic from water sources you could even run an air conditioner use the heat to boil water and the cold to return it to liquid.
@g_mil1389
@g_mil1389 2 жыл бұрын
Voy a tener que investigar eso 👍
@MacMcCabe2456
@MacMcCabe2456 Жыл бұрын
Be great to have something to retro fit to a outdoor boiler to control the smoke when the neighbors start their complaining.
@ournovascotiaadventure1619
@ournovascotiaadventure1619 4 жыл бұрын
Nice clean build, 👍
@DIESELMAN8V92
@DIESELMAN8V92 7 жыл бұрын
WOW!!! I love your boiler unit and Tesla turbine!! I would love to build a unit like this for my own shop.
@ourhouseisfull11
@ourhouseisfull11 7 жыл бұрын
You are welcome to visit and take a look for yourself.
@davekauffman8727
@davekauffman8727 6 жыл бұрын
Old Briggs & Stratton engines don't die, they go STEAM!!! Nice set-up, I think you could go bigger and better though, less than 7 amps for all that available power is very cheesy, my guess is that you've only got induction from the motor windings feeding itself. Put permanent magnets on or into the armature and you'll get some more power from this.
@After_Tech_Industries
@After_Tech_Industries 3 ай бұрын
Either that, or adjust the armature field higher, (more power in) and it should give you more power out! (until it reaches saturation)
@After_Tech_Industries
@After_Tech_Industries 3 ай бұрын
The other issue you would run into is synchronizing the generator to the load
@christianmgtow4744
@christianmgtow4744 5 жыл бұрын
That is cool!
@OTAlucard
@OTAlucard 8 жыл бұрын
Very cool
@mattdathew2794
@mattdathew2794 6 жыл бұрын
wow, am surprized u get more than 1000 W on diy
@ufoengines
@ufoengines 9 жыл бұрын
For a brutally simple steam engine design look into the Bash / Bump valve Steam Engine. Lots of youtubes to be seen on this idea. ( I'd still go with the Tesla Turbine, Been a fan of it for years.)
@g_mil1389
@g_mil1389 2 жыл бұрын
Es la manera más simple, clara, viable, durable, fiable, versátil y potente de convertir combustible en electricidad que he visto en la red. Muchas gracias, caballero, por éste esclarecedor video que puede orientarnos muy acertadamente al aprovechamiento de la energía barata
@saifullahfateh8001
@saifullahfateh8001 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice. I am from Pakistan, I need such small turbine unit for 2kw. My question Is that, how can you reverse steam to boiler??? Tell me your generator capacity
@daddi275
@daddi275 3 жыл бұрын
needs a governor to regulate engine speed
@AndreyYeltsov
@AndreyYeltsov 4 жыл бұрын
Do you add oil to the feed water ?
@levettp
@levettp 4 жыл бұрын
Greta work! You running an oil pump for lubrication in the engine?
@louisphilippe1100
@louisphilippe1100 9 жыл бұрын
You could try to lower to pressure where your water is boiling. The thing is that by lowering the pressure, you can change the boiling point of water. And you could also recycle the used steam to pump it back it the piston.
@MattsMadnessOfficial
@MattsMadnessOfficial 9 жыл бұрын
my question is , how much power does the boiler use compared to what you're making ?
@memyname1771
@memyname1771 3 жыл бұрын
The noise level in a residential area appears to be at a level that would be quite annoying to neighbors. You say, "Then the electrical is connected to the grid and the steam motor is slowed and labors to turn the electric motor faster than the grid speed of 60 hrtz. This effectively make the motor into a grid tied generator." If you tie the motor to the grid, is the electric motor, which is "faster than the grid speed of 60 hrtz" feeding out of phase current into the grid? How about a schematic of the circuit? I didn't read all the comment, but in the ones I did read, I didn't see a response to the questions of feeding oil into the steam. Also, the whole thing starts off with an incinerator with a noisy blower referring to a gasification process. How is this gas collected and used? The incinerator, used to heat the boiler, is shown producing no smoke at the start. Later, all shots carefully avoid showing the smokestack, why?
@robh6638
@robh6638 4 жыл бұрын
they have some videos on KZfaq on exactly how gasification works and how to hook up a generator
@Rainman_actual
@Rainman_actual 9 жыл бұрын
I think it's a great idea and we tried many different ways to do it but the problem is that every internal combustion engine has blow by on the rings and when you use steam the water mixes with the oil and washes out the bearings the next thing we are going to try is an oil cooler that also has a water & oil seperator Best of luck
@ourhouseisfull11
@ourhouseisfull11 9 жыл бұрын
We have abandoned the conversion of the internal combustion engine. Now we are working with a version of the tesla turbine. This will allow us to reclaim almost all of the steam and send it back into a condensate tank without any oil contamination.
@Mercmad
@Mercmad 7 жыл бұрын
What about an aircraft turbine engine, ex helicopter or turbo prop engine?
@rongray4118
@rongray4118 6 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing! My thought was to run exhaust to a primary buffer tank with a "bladder" to hold pressure then add lightweight (veggie or similar oil) to the system (closed)....any thoughts?
@superAK76
@superAK76 3 жыл бұрын
@@ourhouseisfull11 hello Dan. I am based in Nairobi Kenya and would like to know how could we use your used tire fire burning boiler idea here to support the community to use used tire and reduce waste. I would highly appreciate if you could kindly write back to me at kotharyabbas@gmail.com or whatsapp me at +254731844233.
@andydelarue9344
@andydelarue9344 7 жыл бұрын
Does it make more power than the blower is using
@AquariumMania
@AquariumMania 6 жыл бұрын
No lol
@wayne1959
@wayne1959 6 жыл бұрын
is it possible to harness the exhaust steam and condense it to water again?
@frankarmstrong7083
@frankarmstrong7083 2 жыл бұрын
@@tripplefives1402 When I've dealt with steam powering a piston engine with a crankcase, you have to separate lubricating oil from the condensate. This occurs through piston ring slop in the cylinder. Allowing oil to enter, a minute amount but over time it adds up. Place the condensate in a drum first in which you draw off from the drum bottom. Don't put it in a pond, it will contaminate.
@pyaesone2315
@pyaesone2315 Жыл бұрын
Wow
@MrMlantz
@MrMlantz 6 жыл бұрын
When you say the 3rd phase line is tied off do you mean just not used? Also do you have any capacitors in the circuit?
@neok1996
@neok1996 4 жыл бұрын
He says its connected to the grid But I don't think so becous if he shuts down the steam the grid would power the generator and keep it turning
@brenohighland1168
@brenohighland1168 6 ай бұрын
@@neok1996 diodes fix that
@Christdeliverme
@Christdeliverme 9 жыл бұрын
Why not just run the gassified wood as the fuel into a standard ICE to run a generator. You're losing efficiency by making so many conversions, especially into a motor that doesn't take steam very well. Is this just a proof of concept rig?
@_Areknames_
@_Areknames_ 7 жыл бұрын
Mancini, what is the meaning of ICE? thank you
@Christdeliverme
@Christdeliverme 7 жыл бұрын
Manuel Angelini internal combustion engine, sir. sorry.
@thedavesofourlives1
@thedavesofourlives1 6 жыл бұрын
exactly. Cool it down and mix with air and voila - producer gas....
@phillyvoodoo
@phillyvoodoo Жыл бұрын
Wood gasification produces both liquid fuel and a vaporized synth gas so yeah you have both options..... As a third way to increase efficiency, could you also coil some pipe around to also heat water for hot water production for the home???
@kerrryschultz2904
@kerrryschultz2904 7 ай бұрын
The great thing using an ice is you can oversize the engine and generator to utilize the full gas production potential of the gasifier if it is well engineered. Alternatively use the heat for alcohol production and end up with a product that will run many ice engines including diesel. If you use a vaporization system to run the engine it will provide substantially more horsepower per liter used but must be 190 or higher proof to near fully vaporize. Refer to the pougue carburetor for inspiration. As a bonus if you have cattle or pigs, the mash is a great high protein feed.
@LDAR1003
@LDAR1003 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Don, I'm curious at the efficiency of this. I understand you are doing it for other reasons, but purely from a monetary point of view, would you say using the cities power charges you more money or if you were to use this set up? Let's ignore start up costs.
@ourhouseisfull11
@ourhouseisfull11 7 жыл бұрын
If you ignore startup costs, i could make money just in the tire disposal. I charge $2.00 per tire.
@ourhouseisfull11
@ourhouseisfull11 7 жыл бұрын
Check out my steam turbines in other videos. I am currently making a 5 foot diameter low pressure impulse turbine.
@ourhouseisfull11
@ourhouseisfull11 7 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bN6UdbKovq6vkoU.html
@LDAR1003
@LDAR1003 7 жыл бұрын
Ah I see, thanks for your response, and I've definitely seen most of your videos! I'm a subscriber. It's very cool stuff. I'm definitely going to play around with these, as a hobbyist, once I finish my engineering degree.
@LDAR1003
@LDAR1003 2 ай бұрын
@@Geardrive427-ip8vj Sorry my 7-year-old comment made your vagina dry. I recommend not being such a crybaby
@dfox8713
@dfox8713 2 жыл бұрын
Sir this is brillliant. Can we use old rubber tires instead of wood?
@ourhouseisfull11
@ourhouseisfull11 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you can
@DanielSilva-jj2lz
@DanielSilva-jj2lz 8 жыл бұрын
with this u had saved much money?
@alejandroaguilar9038
@alejandroaguilar9038 2 жыл бұрын
Do you make these? or do you sell the Blue prints ?
@edgarmira1325
@edgarmira1325 4 жыл бұрын
Hi I have a question, are you going to sale the steamer Machine. I would like to buy it. Thank you let me know
@mrwonk
@mrwonk Жыл бұрын
How did you match the sin wave of the grid?
@ourhouseisfull11
@ourhouseisfull11 Жыл бұрын
This happens automotically my friend. If you are at zero and you plug it in, it runs as a motor and starts from 0 hertz. The difference is 3600 rpm. If you are running the electric motor with a steam powered primary mover and you are above 3600 rpm on the electric motor, when you plug it into the grid, the motor is above 60 hertz and it acts like a generator, the grid phase is matched automatically and the difference in speed is minimal compared to a hard start when using the induction motor as a generator.
@mrwonk
@mrwonk Жыл бұрын
@@ourhouseisfull11 So, you are saying; on this set-up, the motor will adjust to match the sin of the grid power?
@Ratman_Bejo
@Ratman_Bejo Жыл бұрын
It is connected to a 2 hp 3600 rpm 3 phase induction electric motor, that is wired for 230 volt three phase.???
@ourhouseisfull11
@ourhouseisfull11 Жыл бұрын
yes.
@harrisabbasi973
@harrisabbasi973 5 жыл бұрын
Hey admin...kindly reply me..i want to discuss things related to the design of this project..kindly reply as soon as possible so that i can contact you....
@jesserebel8387
@jesserebel8387 4 жыл бұрын
why not pipe the exhaust to a cooling unit like a evaporator or radiator, than pump the steam that will get turned back into water back into tank, that way you don't have all that steam and don't need to add water as much
@WesleyHarcourtSTEAMandMORE
@WesleyHarcourtSTEAMandMORE Жыл бұрын
Where are you located?
@ourhouseisfull11
@ourhouseisfull11 Жыл бұрын
PLAINWELL MICHIGAN USA.
@stevenos100
@stevenos100 9 жыл бұрын
not combustion (ELECTRICITY) to produce steam -> the steam runs an electric generator & for on-the-go an electric or steam motor & electric steam to water condenser --- it's called perpetual feedback
@geenna3000
@geenna3000 4 жыл бұрын
Хай, вам, пай, ничего не понятно 😂🤔
@user-uw1gt9rc8v
@user-uw1gt9rc8v 2 жыл бұрын
Здравствуйте поставьте пожалуйста геолокацыю и спасибо большое всем !!¡!
@Tera_Hai
@Tera_Hai Жыл бұрын
If this is real, this man needs a dump truck to carry around his massive balls to just plug a generator into a live ac electrical system without synchronizing the two first. That same dump truck can be used to clean up the mess he'll make in his pants if he ever gets that generator too far out of phase.
@ourhouseisfull11
@ourhouseisfull11 Жыл бұрын
It is an induction motor. And all induction motors act like generators if they are driven by a prime mover faster than the grid and only when they are driven faster than the grid. In fact, all electric motors start at 0 hertz when the grid is at 60 herts. All i am doing is plugging in a motor already spinning around 65 to 80 hertz into a grid that is at 60 hertz. So actually it is far more out of phase when you start an induction motor from zero than turn it into a generator with a 5 to 20 hertz differential.
@ufoengines
@ufoengines 9 жыл бұрын
The people at radio WBCQ are looking into powering their radio station using steam powered. I'll email this KZfaq of to them at wbcq @wbcq.com
@giuliabianconi7987
@giuliabianconi7987 5 жыл бұрын
ATTENTION > THE MOTOR CONVERTED TO STEAM,MUST BE A 2 STROKE ENGINE ! Otherwise a great loss of efficiency
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 4 жыл бұрын
He probably welded extra lobes on the camshaft so that every down stroke is a power stroke and every up stroke is an exhaust stroke.
@theozarkhillbilly9040
@theozarkhillbilly9040 3 жыл бұрын
4 strokes are much easier to convert to steam then 2 strokes,.
@brenohighland1168
@brenohighland1168 6 ай бұрын
@@gregorymalchuk272 thats a must
@beast64375
@beast64375 2 жыл бұрын
Use an actual generator and not back feeding off a 3 phase motor, you'd get far more than 6 amps....
@ourhouseisfull11
@ourhouseisfull11 2 жыл бұрын
You are 100% correct without a capacitor interface the efficiency and powerfactor is very low.
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