Gavin Harrison interview Part 3: Technical vs musical drumming

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Gavin Harrison interview Part 3: Technical vs musical drumming

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Vic Firth presents Gavin Harrison interview Part 3: Technical vs musical drumming.
Gavin has performed with:
05Ric
Alice
Artful Dodger
B.J. Cole
Bananarama
Black
Camouflage
Claudio Baglioni
Dave Stewart
Dizrhythmia
Donna Gardier
Ed Poole
Eddie and The Tide
Eros Ramazzotti
Eugenio Finardi
Fiorella Mannoia
Froon
Gail Ann Dorsey
Geno Washington
Go West
Icognito
Iggy Pop
Kevin Ayers
King Crimson
Lene Lovich
Level 42
Lewis Taylor
Lisa Stansfield
Manfred Mann
Mick Karn
Mieko Shimizu
Paul Young
Peter Blegvad
Porcupine Tree
Renaissance
Sam Brown
Sarah Jane Morris
The Kings Of Oblivion
Tom Robinson
Yasuaki Shimizu
Zerra One

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@onkelbolle 11 жыл бұрын

"When I see people playing fast and flashy, I'll I'm aware of is that I'm witnessing a regurgitation of some incredible amount of practice… and I find it really boring. I can see you've practiced it to death, so what am I witnessing? I'm not witnessing any music, I'm not witnessing any expression. I'm witnessing you doing a circus act." ... Gotta love truth.

@johnroynon9784 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic to hear someone acknowledge the genius of Steve Jansen. massively talemted and criminally under rated drummer...

@brad42948 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, Steve is one of the most elegant, talented drummers around...not sure Gavin's ref was much of a compliment though...talk about arrogant.... 🙄

@felixshengyang 8 жыл бұрын

I have watched this video at least 4 times now. And i'm not even a drummer but this is still inspiring!

@zogthedoomed 15 жыл бұрын

I've been a fan of Steve Jansen since the later years of Japan and it was quite interesting to hear Gavin show appreciation for Steves style and emotional content. Steve J was the first drummer I heard who played drums that made you want to cry. Not in a bad way .. but simply drawing out such intense emotion from a simple rhythm.

@GerardVos 3 жыл бұрын

53 here, i’m halfway this doc series ..and it already feels life changing for me..if only i was 30 years younger. Wish i discovered him earlier.

@oreothebest 2 жыл бұрын

What's the documentary called?

@toynazi 9 жыл бұрын

This dude is dead on! Anybody can have crazy chops. It's subtle little things that make somebody's playing different or stand out. A simple thing can change the the whole outlook!

@psychofunksoldier02 13 жыл бұрын

As a guitarist I must say Gavin is very insightful and all musicians, not just drummers, can learn from this. He is the most musical drummer I've ever heard!

@noutingenhousz8188 3 жыл бұрын

Your comment on Steve Jansen is SO true. Thank you

@ILikeWafflz 7 ай бұрын

The way he talks about how he's inspired by smaller tasteful things is basically exactly how his playing inspires me. This video made me realize I can already play anything I want; all I need to do is think of it

@NalinVinayak 7 жыл бұрын

im a guitarist. this guy inspires me more than any artist playing my own instrument

@susanyuill6270 10 жыл бұрын

This is what I have been wanting to say but couldn't express. The flood of drummers...(some even "internet sensations") performing the fastest flurry of tasteless notes.... that kids all look to as "teachers" is so disheartening. When I was recently purchasing a kit and wanted to hear how different drums sounded...I couldn't hear the tones of the drums in the video's i was flicking through from so much over playing. Gavin...Thank-you. Your awesomeness is much appreciated!

@classicartfoundation639 4 жыл бұрын

Come to the guitar world, it's even worse!

@sourbhat 2 жыл бұрын

Just listening to him brought a broad smile such simplistic approach towards creating expressive musicality

@viennabroncos 10 жыл бұрын

what an incredible interview

@panzerken 10 жыл бұрын

Yes! And I was thinking Steve Gadd when he was talking about the little things, then he mentions Gadd! wow!

@oohkumar 8 ай бұрын

Steve Jansen’s feel is what set him apart from so many drummers. His accents, off-beats, tuning and on-the-nose timing was drumming perfection.

@trevormcmanis 6 жыл бұрын

Incredibly profound and well stated… This is why he is such a phenomenal drummer and musician.

@jijst5 9 жыл бұрын

That's really great! I'm glad to see a drummer whose foundation is creativity :). Drummers are not musical? Maybe a lot of them aren't... Just people who had hours of practice a week.. Gavin Harrison, you're great!

@gnrcr 13 жыл бұрын

Applies to every musician who truly wants to go over the top with his/her playing.

@MauroRincon Жыл бұрын

Very few drummers at this level of everything (chops, musicality, originality).

@diffusiventity 11 жыл бұрын

so much wisdom. Especially the part about practice pad playing. I've been working on my hands LOADS the past few months, and now i play with a huge amount more control, but I sit at a kit and try to coordinate an idea, and find I can't do it! the idea's jumbled or doesn't fit or is uninspiring. There's really no substitute to working at ideas on a kit.

@andrewpendlebury1103 3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear Gavin,thanks...

@mikedown1250 Жыл бұрын

Steve Jansen played with Mick karn an iconic bass player. Japan were not a frilly shirt new wave band. They were very good musicians

@trottolo90 8 жыл бұрын

great drummer

@63Baggies 8 жыл бұрын

+max scientist one of England's "crown jewels".

@omairsh8 3 жыл бұрын

Great MUSICIAN

@vvhh4284 10 жыл бұрын

Wow, that's really nice, i was listening first to Japan and i really enjoyed Steve Jansen grooves, then i found out richard barbieri was in Porcupine Tree, next ot find out Gavin Harrison also like Jansen, that's really great. Love their sound.

@Elliebellebama 13 жыл бұрын

Love is comments on drummers who just play fast and how he loves the little touches! He is so intelligent and charming!

@citydrums7525 7 жыл бұрын

Great points. And true. I like Andy Newmark's drumming in Roxy Music - particularly "Avalon" - for its taste, impeccable time and his ability to throw in original licks without going over the top. His restraint is as important as his facility. He can say a lot with a little...

@Elliebellebama 13 жыл бұрын

Love his comments on drummers who just play fast and how he loves the little touches! He is so intelligent and charming!

@Jvenvell 13 жыл бұрын

Completely connects with how I feel about the drums after being classically trained on other instruments first. This guy deserves a lot of respect.

@Kingding6 14 жыл бұрын

A brilliant man and one of the tastiest drummers around.

@gavfisher3559 15 жыл бұрын

I love those little bell cymbals. Lovely.

@144Donn 10 жыл бұрын

@1:53 well I don't know if we can "all" do it..but I agree with Gavin! Very interesting..very good!

@cneikirk1 12 жыл бұрын

I love you man!!! Just came across these videos of Gavin tonight. This section, of the interview.......I FEEL YA BROTHER!!!! You think the same as I....

@92JinKazama 14 жыл бұрын

Very informative and simply amazing.

@Zeromus7 14 жыл бұрын

Ahhhh, awesome!! He talks about Stewart Copeland, he is another of my three favorite drummers along with Gavin and Cato Bekkevold.

@secretsofthedeep20k 15 жыл бұрын

Great video, it's nice to see someone make sense.

@teoland3250 10 жыл бұрын

Thx Gavin, like so much your musical ideas

@udomatthiasdrums5322 3 жыл бұрын

still love it!!

@gyro62 14 жыл бұрын

Great Interview, Gavin's the man !

@gorestravinsky665 9 жыл бұрын

I agree with him, He is the one of the best Drummers around the world. I saw him in 2010 in the Porcupine Tree tour in Mexico. He is a fantastic drummer.

@panzerken 10 жыл бұрын

I just discovered this guy only a couple of weeks ago when I found those Letterman drum week clips. I thought the guy was good. So I decide to check out some more clips here on youtube and man, he is way more amazing than I realized! I am 52 and a bit out of touch I guess. Spend too much time looking at old Weckl ,Gadd and Vinnie clips. Great stuff of course, but need to check out other cats too! Also, what he says about about not having ideas, man, that is one of my problems I have struggled with over the years!

@SokSa 14 жыл бұрын

what an amazing lesson...

@TweedSuit 2 жыл бұрын

3:58 - Mentions Steve Jansen, one of my favourite players. I wouldn't say he doesn't have chops or technique though. The late Neil Peart also rates Steve highly.

@finaldrumer 11 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I did! Benny is so inspiring and creative!

@happy30yrs 15 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the vids jez12 and keep up the good work! This interview is priceless.

@tdrum21 10 жыл бұрын

Very well spoken on things here!

@SigDrums 15 жыл бұрын

Same here! I quitted though, but it's the same story. I wanted to create something unique and harmonic, not just a composition of things done earlier by others. Gavin is a genious, no one opens my eyes like he does!

@alfredoguerra4606 7 жыл бұрын

Este video inspira a cualquier músico independientemente del genero o el instrumento, Gavin es realmente un musico que toca desde el corazón

@Kingding6 12 жыл бұрын

its funny when he talks about ideas impressing him and not crazy chops...seeing as he has some of the coolest ideas going.

@findnaveen12 12 жыл бұрын

Thumbs up if you went and checked out Steve Jansen.

@wabj90 11 жыл бұрын

My remedy for that is on the pad do more then just stick workouts. I do grooves, polyrhythms rudiments, play around time, lock in time, ect. I also use my legs in conjuction with my pad, and I force myself to play open-handed(I need to do that more)

@allmetaliswelcome 13 жыл бұрын

1:40 mr garrison has billabillabillabillabillabilla's that are lovely and nice too! that's the reason i like him so much!

@Osagie98 3 жыл бұрын

4:59 my exact reaction when listening to bonnie the cat for the first time

@robbertheintz3850 4 жыл бұрын

He is one of the top 3 drummers ever

@nuke97 12 жыл бұрын

This man is a TRUE musician.

@janknjazovic 11 жыл бұрын

so inspirating :)

@rahooligan 14 жыл бұрын

Brilliant. And by the way this doesn't just apply to drums but to every single instrument.

@corigraves 15 жыл бұрын

Good ideas ... yes they take time to develop .. and maturity I think !!!

@Op3thiangr 15 жыл бұрын

I fucking love this guy. :**

@billsabiadrums 14 жыл бұрын

i agree. Totally!!!!!!

@NIGHTFRIGHT2011 8 жыл бұрын

Delighted to hear him mention Steve Jansen(Japan),and then he spoils it by saying that Steve had no chops and couldn't play fast to save his life. He obviously hasn't listened to the Quiet Life,Polaroids and Tin Drum albums. Steve and Mick Karn were a rhythm section like no other.Truly innovative and influential.

@63Baggies 8 жыл бұрын

+NIGHTFRIGHT2011 I understand your point, but I think that Gavin was speaking comparatively.

@SammyMakepeace 7 жыл бұрын

NIGHTFRIGHT2011 I think of all people he probably has listened and examined and given his judgement on whatever he is speaking of

@SinisterSkip 14 жыл бұрын

@runtifish Great player this guy and great guy this player :)

@exarkun8250 2 жыл бұрын

He says that he doesn't like flash and chops, but most of the playing he does here is exactly that.

@bball98038 10 жыл бұрын

Funny thing is, a lot of Gavin's playing (more than half) was a bunch of crazy rudiment chops that fit in the technical category

@marcusking8507 6 жыл бұрын

But he's tasteful with it though (90% of the time at least).

@LanceDirk 15 жыл бұрын

This should be titled "the video Mike Portnoy needs to watch RIGHT NOW" Unfortunately, I've had very little patience for music lately, i.e. I've been wanting something I can just rock out to rather than something that you have to kind of sit back and really listen to intently. That jazzy groove Gavin plays later in this video really got me though, so maybe that will rekindle my desire to listen to something deep and musical.

@TheMakyoura 14 жыл бұрын

One word: Wise

@jazzinghero 12 жыл бұрын

gavin is the MAN

@Aaron_Gentry 12 жыл бұрын

This man knows his shit. Listen well, and learn

@yrussq 8 жыл бұрын

These opening Gavin's words should be tattooed on the Thomas Lang's forehead and drummers like him.

@skyreadersociety6183 7 жыл бұрын

hahaha! He's not that bad.

@lewisratzker8949 6 жыл бұрын

Thomas Lang is not on the same planet as Gavin Harrison as an overall musician & 'drummer'. Personally I don't seem keen on him, (a bit smarmy perhaps??), but he his undoubtedly a very good drummer for sure, if you like that kinda thing....

@yrussq 6 жыл бұрын

+alfie There are two types of people that are involved in music: technicians and musicians. The first ones can play technically unbelievable things and can't create a single piece of music that are worth listening to, while second ones can have almost no technique at all but we listen to their records everyday.

@patorikku65 14 жыл бұрын

fuck hes amazing... like a sage

@TobiasHougaard 14 жыл бұрын

@LanceDirk : agreed Mike Portnoy is really just technique to the extreme... but unlike many other, I find it fitting quite good to Dream Theater, I mean it's a band founded at Berkeley, they are amazing muscicians and live by showing off their talent together, and therfore is Mike Portnoy the right drummer, and plays what is right to DT... IMO

@AssortedBits 12 жыл бұрын

@LordAssortedBits correction: I think it seems mindless because people are just following scene cliché's instead of using them *to create interesting deviations.

@DrumBlast89 15 жыл бұрын

5:38 so so so sooo tru!

@preciouslouse 12 жыл бұрын

Gavin and Benny Greb, true musicians.

@LanceDirk 14 жыл бұрын

I agree with that because I would apply the same criticisms I make of Portnoy to the other members of Dream Theater.

@Smudgie 13 жыл бұрын

@thecrevd Sorry but the audio just seems to cut out at 6:11. Must be some technical problem! ;-)

@jrgdrumsandwatches 14 жыл бұрын

He's so lovely, it's like Roger Federer, impossible to hate him!

@Kingding6 13 жыл бұрын

What a genius

@edthewave 12 жыл бұрын

Inspiring. Even for a bass musician like me!

@AssortedBits 12 жыл бұрын

@jsbattlenet I think it seems mindless because people are just following scene cliché's instead of using them. It's not just metal, punk has that tendency as well (and often uses the same polka-beat (the skank) as those fast metaldrummers do). But what Gavin said in this video (that he values ideas and nice touches) also applies to that sort of drumming, some put in nice accents during blastbeats to give a whole different feel to a track.

@waynedrumpal 15 жыл бұрын

no kidding....check it out mike

@finaldrumer 11 жыл бұрын

Yeah, my bad. After doing little research I found out I've been wrong a big part of my life. Don't remember where I got the "brain is a muscle" thing, thanks for the correction.

@Eljubilodeltambor 13 жыл бұрын

That's what I call.... INTELIGENCE

@FictionSmurf 15 жыл бұрын

smart guy,

@andreisidro 12 жыл бұрын

He's talking like a jazz player. Jazz players often play the way he's describing, but that's why most of jazz fans are musicians, because everyone else can't hear the subtle ideas they play. On the other hand rock music is way more flashy, and pretty much every good rock live performer tends to act as if the stuff they do is way harder than it is. But can you imagine how much rock would've sucked if jimi hendrix never played guitar with his theeth?

@ben10sk8r 12 жыл бұрын

i want to go jam out on the drums so bad now.

@Mahavishnu80 15 жыл бұрын

interesting. vinnie c is the drummer i think of as being tasteful..even a crash without bass he does is nice

@CamerOneiric 14 жыл бұрын

@dcairol No, he's talking about Portnoy the whole time.

@derek5168 Жыл бұрын

With the competition in the art of drumming technical chop based player's will try and convince you that if a drummer can't play the 26 rudiments at a high speed on the metronome that groove based player's are at an intermediate level yet some chop based player's say nothing musical with their drumming

@KalleEricson 10 жыл бұрын

Gavin Harrison is to drums, what David Gilmour is to the guitar:)

@mrbungle3310 3 жыл бұрын

Modern music times...yeah and guitarists and drummers,you learn the fastest hardest parts,and once you sink all that time you realise its not as important as the originality Btw he probaby misunderstood Steve,listen to Art of parties,hes a pretty technical drummer,but not a super fast and makes you appreciate the groove,and when you hear him play you know its him

@PoxyBear 6 жыл бұрын

Finally this! I hate fast drumming it doesn't sound musical. There's no musicality to it. No style. Gavin sounds wonderful, Bernard Purdie is amazing. That's real imaginative, musical drumming to me.

@runtifish 14 жыл бұрын

Even though he plays as technical as fuck...great player this guy!

@PaddieFunk 11 жыл бұрын

did anyone else thing of benny greb the whole time

@toberoo 14 жыл бұрын

@dcairol I know people give Portnoy crap about him being all technique, but the stuff I like the most from Portnoy isn't his fills. Some of his drum parts adds a lot to the music, stream of consciousness being an example. To each his own though, btw I like Gavin much better,