GDI's Air Force - Command and Conquer - Tiberium Lore

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Jethild

Jethild

Күн бұрын

Taking a look at the various non-orca aircraft used by the Global Defense Initiative during the 3 Tiberium Wars. Timestamps and/or corrections posted below:
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To clarify what I said about the V-35s being un-armed at the 10:24 mark. I was specifically speaking about the aircraft itself. However, if you garrison infantry units in an APC and then have the Ox pick up that APC, then the units inside it will fire down on enemies below them. I wasn't sure if this was an intentional gameplay feature or if it's some kind of glitch; so I ended up leaving it out of the script.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro and Prologue
00:51 First Tiberium War Air Force
06:30 Dropship
07:57 Third Tiberium War Air Force
Footage and some images and/or concept art are from the Command and Conquer video game series which is the property of Electronic Arts. Other images and art might be used from other sources and all rights to those belong to their respective authors. Video animations, voiced dialogue and editing are created by myself.
Music used:
Traction (C&C Remastered) - Frank Klepacki
Airstrike (C&C Remastered) - Frank Klepacki
Elusive (C&C TS:FS) - Frank Klepacki
Flurry (C&C TS) - Frank Klepacki and Jarrid Mendelson
Infrared (C&C TS) - Frank Klepacki and Jarrid Mendelson
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@Jethild
@Jethild Жыл бұрын
To clarify what I said about the V-35s being un-armed at the 10:24 mark. I was specifically speaking about the aircraft itself. However, if you garrison infantry units in an APC and then have the Ox pick up that APC, then the units inside it will fire down on enemies below them. I wasn't sure if this was an intentional gameplay feature or if it's some kind of glitch; so I ended up leaving it out of the script. Also, as others have pointed out, the Missile Squads in the Hammerheads could shoot at enemy aircraft.
@LINJ638
@LINJ638 Жыл бұрын
As Mr. Burns: "Excellent for declassifying this particular file. What about the Kodiak and the orbiting space stations Philadelphia???? Tell us a little about components behind the large mammoth vehicle/transporter. Where does it fit in the video or a separate one for next time???" And where is the dropship launched from exactly??? Anyway, good one again.
@louievelayo4100
@louievelayo4100 Жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder, going back to Generals a bit, if it applies with Missile Defenders inside Granger's Combat Chinooks or with Tank Hunters insider Bunker equipped Helixes as well...
@akmalhafiz8763
@akmalhafiz8763 Жыл бұрын
Why you don't mention CNC 4?
@louievelayo4100
@louievelayo4100 Жыл бұрын
@@akmalhafiz8763 We don't talk of *THAT!* here! (loads railgun)
@stellaporteria7277
@stellaporteria7277 Жыл бұрын
pls land vehicles pls 🥺
@Khaybar007
@Khaybar007 Жыл бұрын
Jethild is the man. Explaining GDI air units, completely ignoring the CnC4 as if it never existed.
@Urai70
@Urai70 Жыл бұрын
cnc4?
@ReiSyre62
@ReiSyre62 Жыл бұрын
Wait, since when we have fourth game of CnC?
@deathhead104
@deathhead104 Жыл бұрын
As it should be
@ReZel80657
@ReZel80657 Жыл бұрын
There is no fourth game it does not exist
@Khaybar007
@Khaybar007 Жыл бұрын
Wait, why am I talking about something that doesn't exist?
@PaiSAMSEN
@PaiSAMSEN Жыл бұрын
Consider that GDI didn't have much issue with A-10 friendly-fire on ground troop, one can presumed that the British didn't contribute much to GDI ground forces.
@kevinhenrique4256
@kevinhenrique4256 Жыл бұрын
NCD MEMBER DETECTED
@DavisJ-ln6fw
@DavisJ-ln6fw Жыл бұрын
That was the A10s fault not the British .
@weldonwin
@weldonwin Жыл бұрын
That GDI Supersonic Fighter? Yeah, they went ahead and actually built the Hellreaper, a Soviet era experimental aircraft that was intended to fly incredibly fast at very low altitude and use the shockwave from its passing as a weapon. It was never actually built, since A) Flying that fast, that low would be virtually suicidal for the pilot and B) the effects of this weapon would potentially be considered a war crime, with predictions of it being capable of exploding heads of infantry as it flew over.
@bbaff8622
@bbaff8622 Жыл бұрын
The US B-1 can actually do significant damage to infrastructure when flying at Mach 2+ low level. Not its primary weapon by any means but would take out above ground power lines in its path.
@weldonwin
@weldonwin Жыл бұрын
@@bbaff8622 Yeah, but it's not flying at Mach-2+ at about 60-feet
@bbaff8622
@bbaff8622 Жыл бұрын
@@weldonwin Very true.
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes Жыл бұрын
Well I would think that the war crime would be civilian collateral damage from such a Sonic boom! A Sonic boom can get really powerful. I could see civilian collateral damage happening from that.
@firebatray7946
@firebatray7946 Жыл бұрын
A little detail I found since I love using Hammerheads. They can't fight aircraft directly but put missile squads in em and these infantry will attack enemy air units for ya. In essence, these choppers can be a jack-of-all-trades
@saltybaka103
@saltybaka103 Жыл бұрын
Zone raiders also have their own anti air rockets too making them a bit op in hammerheads ☠️
@Girder3
@Girder3 Жыл бұрын
They can, but I've found them not too effective, so it's still not advisable to use them for AtA.
@stormlordeternal7663
@stormlordeternal7663 Жыл бұрын
Hammerheads are absolutely hysterical. Pack a few dozen of them with zone troopers and rocket squads/zone raiders and literally insta-gib everything in your path.
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes Жыл бұрын
I’ve tried all sorts of tricks with Hammerheads. But regardless, they are easy to shoot down with air defense or a hit from an enemy fighter like the Venom or Firehawk
@SupremeRTS
@SupremeRTS Жыл бұрын
I always loved the in universe utility of the ox transport. Kinda like the pelican from halo. An excellent logistical craft that also gives great mobility to forces its supporting
@obelic71
@obelic71 Жыл бұрын
sadly an ox transport can not get veteran status. You can use them like the fortified CH47 and Helix in generals.
@chrisyuri4187
@chrisyuri4187 Жыл бұрын
That cutscene of that Orca flying through the canyon with the Frank Klepacki song playing was amazing as a kid.
@PressA2Die
@PressA2Die Жыл бұрын
It's crazy to me that the first C&C has a f22 Raptor in it, that aircraft must have only just been declassified at the time. I am only now making the connection that the supersonic fighters in C&C 3 probably were not just using sonic booms to blow up aircraft but actually using zocom sonic technology, their supersonic speed making them immune to their own weaponry. Out running their own sound based blast wave.
@shadowphoenix1696
@shadowphoenix1696 Жыл бұрын
I dont think they were really a sercet or after years of testing just became a badly kepted secret. The reason i think this is, is because C&C was released in 95 and the F-22 first flew in 97 and formally entered service in 2005. The YF-22 and YF-23 prototypes were flown in 1990, and the Lockheed-Boeing-General Dynamics team won the ATF contest in 1991. After nearly 44,000 wind tunnel test hours, 13,000 material sample tests, six years of development, and a trio of program rephasings mandated by Congress, the F-22 was finally airborne. So it seems that the design or at least the early look of the F-22 was public knowledge.
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes Жыл бұрын
The firehawk does resemble the prototype Russian Su-47 too.
@siriushauserVT
@siriushauserVT Жыл бұрын
"Regiment" seemed to be the word of the day when the dev team was working on the Intelligence Database in Kane's Wrath. Check out how many times it was used there. That aside, fantastic work as always Jethild! Having played this series since childhood, it's a joy to hear a fresh perspective on the lore.
@Amadeus8484
@Amadeus8484 Жыл бұрын
A Regiment is bigger than the army sizes you will see on most maps lol
@siriushauserVT
@siriushauserVT Жыл бұрын
@@Amadeus8484 Exactly! Someone on the EA dev team likely grabbed a thesaurus and said “Eh, means the same”, when it doesn’t. If they ever make a helicopter big enough to fit a regiment on board, then I’ll gladly follow that description. But a Hammerhead is not that big, and a squad is not a regiment.
@Amadeus8484
@Amadeus8484 Жыл бұрын
@@siriushauserVT If you MUST rationalize it, you could say that individual units on the map represent much bigger ones but either way, a Regiment would have trouble getting into a jumbo jet...
@TheLastSterling1304
@TheLastSterling1304 Жыл бұрын
@@Amadeus8484 Well tbf, in some armies a 'regiment' is really a battalion sized unit.
@ismaelsantos5378
@ismaelsantos5378 Жыл бұрын
@@TheLastSterling1304 Makes me think of 40K where an Imperial Guard regiment can be 100 dudes or 10 million. It is sort of handwaved in lore by stating that regiments are kept fighting until they are so depleted they are no longer combat effective, so that regiment with 100 guardsmen started as a much bigger force and these were the last survivors. Said regiments are either merged with other depleted regiments (forming what is referred to as "scratch regiments"), sent back to their world to replenish their numbers, or discharged from service and, depending on their deeds, often being allowed to settle conquered territory. Of course, they could also be sent for some lifelong R&R on that planet that also exports an unusually large quantity of Servitors. Odd.
@heinzlilio4612
@heinzlilio4612 Жыл бұрын
I love using Firehawks in Tiberium Wars by far my favorite aircraft
@Utubesuperstar
@Utubesuperstar Жыл бұрын
Me too but in regular tib wars when they are going after scrin ships especially they friendly fire sooooooo much and kill each other or themselves with splash damage thankfully kanes wrath fixed thay
@mkvector9539
@mkvector9539 Жыл бұрын
@@Utubesuperstar Same thing in Generals, the Raptor and the MiGs in large numbers would often shoot down themselves by their own missiles
@Utubesuperstar
@Utubesuperstar Жыл бұрын
@@mkvector9539 I never had the issue with raptors migs and the napalm/nukes good lord if a supply plane flies over your base and they try to shoot it down your own base is getting blown up not to mention your jets
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes Жыл бұрын
I forgot about Orcas in Tiberium Wars because of Firehawks.
@swenhtet2861
@swenhtet2861 Жыл бұрын
I think the GDI also might’ve used the Grumman F-14 Tomcats during the First Tib War since there was one scene in the intro where GDI troops were onboarding a Black Hawk on an aircraft carrier and there’s some shapes of aircraft that looks like an F-14.
@Destroyer12445
@Destroyer12445 Жыл бұрын
I love how this man does his best to not mention C&C4 at all, bless you and your videos and keep it up
@Darkdaej
@Darkdaej Жыл бұрын
Well despite the fact that it's "official" canon, no true fan of C&C would ever consider it as such. Besides it was originally meant to be an entirely different game. It's just EA that forced it to have a C&C skinsuit. It's pretty sad because the game called C&C4 *could* have worked as another franchise (and maybe a few more months of work for balancing)
@Kaida760
@Kaida760 Жыл бұрын
I may not like CnC 4 but GDI did clearly take steps for a possible scrin return. The Kodiaks.
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t fond of the gameplay style for C&C 4, but taking Tiberium from the Earth was according to the game, the only way to save Earth from another Scrin Invasion. I mean if the force in Tiberium Wars was only lightly armed, there wasn’t a chance of stopping a fleet of Battleships with the resources of one planet and the planet taken over by Tiberium.
@taumelscheibe5948
@taumelscheibe5948 Жыл бұрын
15:47 The Hammerhead is using a Flettner Rotor design with counter rotating rotors to counter out the torque. A Heli with NOTAR system has a conventional single Rotor, the counter-torque is provided by a exhaust nozzle at the end of the tailboom.
@vi6ddarkking
@vi6ddarkking Жыл бұрын
Honestly The Kodiak Is One Of My Favorite RTS Units. I Have A Bit Of A Soft Spot For The Flying Fortress.
@squishymusic9723
@squishymusic9723 Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@LINJ638
@LINJ638 Жыл бұрын
Where is the GDI Dropship launched from? Does anyone know?
@squishymusic9723
@squishymusic9723 Жыл бұрын
@@LINJ638 My headcanon was always the Philadephia or a similar supporting satellite given GDI's push for putting their military assets in orbit at the time and the Dropship coming out of high altitude in game. They dont seem to be able to alone return to high altitude (No stratofighter upgrades yet 😂) since they leave the map at low altitude. But I don't know of any source to corroborate that.
@LINJ638
@LINJ638 Жыл бұрын
@@squishymusic9723 Well, Jethild was saying that it wasn't launched from space from the main one that is Philadelphia or other supporting network of space station to the Dropship Center on the ground to his presumption. Weird. Note the huge high gain antenna in the cut content. How do they return to high altitude.
@squishymusic9723
@squishymusic9723 Жыл бұрын
@@LINJ638 Again conjecture/head canon but I would assume additional thrusters - boosters - could be added to allow them to leave. Another idea is that without the cargo container, since it can detach entirely, they would then be able to leave atmosphere.
@agentcoxack7368
@agentcoxack7368 Жыл бұрын
Ox’s can’t lift Harvesters due to the Tiberium being too dangerous to fly around a battlefield. They can’t lift Rigs due to their intricate machinery. They can’t lift Mammoths because… girth? I guess. Edit: I was in a rush when I wrote this so I'll elaborate a little. The Harvesters will likely either have a full cargo hold or traces of Tiberium inside them. In either case if they get shot down, that's more Tiberium contamination - potentially over a Yellow or even Blue Zone. For a full hold, that would also be too heavy and potentially unstable to carry - since Tiberium is explosive, it might be volatile in the state it's harvested in until it's refined. The Rigs are as stated by a comment to be a utility vehicle so aren't likely to be vital for aerial transport, but that would have it's uses. I think it's down more to the fact that the Rig's build itself is little more than "cockpit". It's literally a glass box with metal bits on the bottom - put simply there's nowhere to grab it without potentially tearing off the head, which we know extends when deployed. It'd be like picking up a jar by the lid. As for Mammoths their sheer weight would definitely preclude the Ox transports from carrying them - on top of that, if ONE transport could carry one, it would take ONE lucky Rocket Militant to destroy a very powerful and very expensive GDI vehicle unit, alongside it's presumably highly-trained crew. Plus if it did get shot down, it's gonna land on *something*. And that *something* won't fare well. Also, it's likely that even if one Ox transport could lift it, it'd be far too heavy to move fast enough to evade attacks or keep up with it's escorts and other transports. The MCV can be lifted in a "cutscene" but as you can see it clips to all Hell inside the Ox, so it's very definitely been jury-rigged for the dramatic entrance. As for actual reasons, I again imagine it's far too heavy to lift safely and efficiently. That, and dropping a 3,500+ credit mobile firebase because the transport's engine failed would probably cause a little uproar. Engineers aren't cheap either. The Titan Mark II is as mentioned probably too heavy and unwieldy to carry via Ox, and likely the Steel Talons know how vulnerable they are to being shot down in flight, so forbid it. Their funds are stretched as-is. And the Juggernaut/Behemoth are simply way too heavy, expensive and unwieldy to lift. See again my "every crash is a landing" and "lift a jar by the lid" analogies. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk. Peace Through Power.
@Utubesuperstar
@Utubesuperstar Жыл бұрын
Or maybe lack of usable mounting points the rigs aren’t shaped right harvesters aren’t either and mammoths are just plain huge
@tiber6942
@tiber6942 Жыл бұрын
I agree that the Harvesters seem too hazardous to carry. Even empty there will be traces of tiberium inside if its been used. The last thing GDI wants is a harvester dropping somewhere and starting a new patch. Rig is not a combat vehicle since its listed function is to secure territory once its been cleared. No need to have it air transportable since its not going to be rushed into combat. Sort of like a supply truck. I won’t try to do any maths on it but even if GDI has some new armour material that is light the sheer size of that thing slung bellow one transport would be a pig to fly with. I can only think of two ways to make that thing is fly. One the ground crew wire it up to a few transports like a Jaeger from Pacific Rim and fly in some tight formation to carry it. One Rocket and you lose all the transports plus a Mammoth. Or you can try my crazy plan to make the MCV fly bellow. If you want to make an MCV airdropable if if you strip everything non essential to flight from that V-35 and that the MCV wouldn't be able to fabricate on site. I’m talking the what they did to those B-25’s during the Doolittle Raid. Pull any limiter from the engine for more power at the cost of fuel consumption. Fit the both with some JATO or RATO boosters to help with take-off. Once both are as light as possible have the MCV drive to a runway facing away from the destination. Have its upper crane slide forwards as far as it can without dropping the body. That gets you a some what flat space on top and the somewhat rounded end facing the direction of travel. Drain any fuel from the MCV to cut more weight. Now to fill the V-35 with just enough fuel to hover and land on top of the MCV. Weld on some attachment points and clamp it. Give the V-35 enough fuel for a rolling take off and no more. Have the MCV put its wheels into neutral and pray. The V-35 has to reach a high enough speed it can overcome the MCV’s mass and drag to the point it can take off. If it can go fast enough and just lift off it can use the ground effect to pull it off. You need to keep performing mid air refuelling the whole way since its going to burn fuel. Once its near the drop point aim for a highway or large flat area. Let the MCV’s wheels make contact and have them signal to release. Pop the clamps the moment you hear its down and then RTB. Once you land write off the V-35. I don’t know what process GDI uses to say don’t use it but I’m saying don’t use it. Ever. This whole plan relies on every trick I can think of to pull it off. But it still poses a massive risk to both transport and MCV. Probably why no one wants to do it in universe. Gameplay wise having the MCV do some crazy airdrop would be cool but making the animation for one mission would be a waste.
@igncom1
@igncom1 Жыл бұрын
At the end of the day the Ox has no reason beyond gameplay to be worse than the Orca Carryall. SO I just headcanon that it actually can do all of that.
@tiber6942
@tiber6942 Жыл бұрын
@@igncom1 I still like the idea of some ground crew being told they need to make an MCV fly for the next mission. Nothing gets the enlisted going like a good challenge.
@igncom1
@igncom1 Жыл бұрын
@@tiber6942 nothing hurts brotherhood moral more than watching a mammoth MK.II fly across the battlefield.
@louievelayo4100
@louievelayo4100 Жыл бұрын
It's funny because while the Ox refuses to carry the Mammoth Tank due to its sheer size, in RA3, Twinblades have no problems in airlifting Apocalypse Tanks...
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes Жыл бұрын
Even in Tiberian Sun, the Orca Carryalls lifted Mammoth Mark II’s around, and Manmoth Mk. II is even bigger than a Mammoth Tank or an Apocalypse Tank
@thomasp506
@thomasp506 8 ай бұрын
RA3 was considerably looser with its representation of physics
@patrik9328
@patrik9328 Жыл бұрын
I still prefer NOD aircraft, Venom is fast, detects invisible targets, can shoot ground and air targets and has laser! Vertigo is powerful stealth bomber and it looks sleek and badass
@AcidiFy574
@AcidiFy574 Жыл бұрын
I just wished they dropped 2 bombs instead of one
@joestapes4192
@joestapes4192 Жыл бұрын
I will say in Tib 3 Nod’s Venom craft are the best overall cheap/unlimited ammo and can attack air and ground. Also can extend the range of the beam cannons. Plus Specter aircraft Nods Air Force is pretty good.
@gdicommando4456
@gdicommando4456 Жыл бұрын
NGL, this is and has been my favorite KZfaq content ever since you started
@joshuazamora5055
@joshuazamora5055 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this and I'm looking forward for more video about GDI and other C&C Tiberium War.
@obelic71
@obelic71 Жыл бұрын
Long time C&C fan here. Since i got an original Red Alert copy as a birthday pressent in 1997 i was hooked. My old now stand alone win7 pc is just for playing C&C games to this day. Nothing more fun than after a stress week just play C&C to relax.
@DarkKnight52365
@DarkKnight52365 Жыл бұрын
that unknown fighter in the first war almost looks like a YF-23
@BaxterAndLunala
@BaxterAndLunala Ай бұрын
YF-23? Is that from Ace Combat?
@thegreatshamalamadingdong9788
@thegreatshamalamadingdong9788 Жыл бұрын
Whoop whoop another excuse to watch all the command and conquer lore back to back 🙌🙌☺️
@frostburn3736
@frostburn3736 Жыл бұрын
Another high-quality material, about GDI nonetheless. You made me a really happy man Jethild. Thanks! 👍 Also: *_Orca is the King of all aircrafts._*
@Vsm426
@Vsm426 Жыл бұрын
*Laughs in Venom
@ryancroft7768
@ryancroft7768 Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid playing these games I would make up story's like this lol. It is vary nice to see them come to life more with you and no strings thank you.
@Vindrael
@Vindrael Жыл бұрын
i really liked firehawk but this unit require a bit micro-ing when i played back then. if you're not careful in dog fight, firehawk missile explosion can damage themself, this is problematic when you trying to hit devastator since firehawk try being cool by flying through devastator and it's missile explosion. perhaps it's patched already
@j0246
@j0246 Жыл бұрын
15:20 this implies that the Hammerhead is a descendant of the Mi-24 Hind If I remember correctly Red Alert had the Mi-24
@maximk9964
@maximk9964 Жыл бұрын
That's what I think too, since it is the most well known transport/gunship IRL
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes Жыл бұрын
Also the Firehawk resembles the Russian Su-47 in real life with the wing and body shape.
@blagojpejov4155
@blagojpejov4155 Жыл бұрын
Good Work on Gdi Air Force
@ThresherAbi
@ThresherAbi Жыл бұрын
Hope that he'll also do that for GDI's and Nod's armoured forces (tanks) and infantry👌
@LINJ638
@LINJ638 Жыл бұрын
Didn't he already do the armor vehicles?
@brothersgt.grauwolff6716
@brothersgt.grauwolff6716 Жыл бұрын
I always loved doing the Engi Rush in the C&C game's as taking control of the enemy base was considered a win condition
@ChicChicMusic6673
@ChicChicMusic6673 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos as much as I love Command and Conquer(and RTS in general). And I have an idea for a video: could you make a video explaining or summarizing the three Tiberium Wars? Like, a three-part video or something like that. Keep up the good work!
@MuhammadAli-ul6hn
@MuhammadAli-ul6hn Жыл бұрын
Please do a Nod air force next . Btw awesome videos
@red-silver5521
@red-silver5521 Жыл бұрын
Another awesome vid Jethlid!
@OkugiP
@OkugiP Жыл бұрын
Your lore vids are so good! Keep it up!
@ionutmaricuta958
@ionutmaricuta958 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work jethild!
@ArchCone
@ArchCone Жыл бұрын
Jethild amazing work as always my good man.
@eddiedelgado60
@eddiedelgado60 Жыл бұрын
Nothing like a new Jethild video. great content. I apreciate your work. Thanks.
@elderliddle2733
@elderliddle2733 Жыл бұрын
That “unknown fighter” at 4:50 I believe was the SU 47 Berkut stealth fighter normally seen in the Russian Air Force or a modified variant.
@mkvector9539
@mkvector9539 Жыл бұрын
I think the Firehawk more closely resembles the SU-47 Berkut.
@Orangejr36
@Orangejr36 Жыл бұрын
It's a YF-23 the failed competitor to the F22. The Berkut has backwards swept wings and looks nothing like it
@station992
@station992 Жыл бұрын
This channel is what I was looking for it's all so nice understanding every vechile story and technology
@craftsmanceramics8653
@craftsmanceramics8653 Жыл бұрын
The best content for classic lore
@johnecoapollo7
@johnecoapollo7 9 ай бұрын
I got into the series only during the C&C 3 Tiberium Wars era so seeing how gradually the two sides began as basically 21st century militaries and reached what I knew is very interesting.
@GaryDeeks
@GaryDeeks Жыл бұрын
Another good video. I'm waiting for GDI navy one, that would be interesting.
@Kaiju-Driver
@Kaiju-Driver Жыл бұрын
Good stuff as always
@ah1rooivalk
@ah1rooivalk Жыл бұрын
I love your videos dude.
@alexandermenschmaschine5361
@alexandermenschmaschine5361 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! Waiting the same about Nod air force!
@aljoshilagan3204
@aljoshilagan3204 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these man. It's awesome as always. And I really hope that we can get another RTS resurgence at some point.
@sixthcairn
@sixthcairn Жыл бұрын
Yeah, a C&C 4 would be nice.
@aljoshilagan3204
@aljoshilagan3204 Жыл бұрын
@@sixthcairn i don't know if you're serious. Or if this is a joke about how everyone denies the existance of cnc 4. But yes, only if it was made by a different person.
@sixthcairn
@sixthcairn Жыл бұрын
@@aljoshilagan3204 Honestly at this point I'd settle for a Deserts of Kharak-style title made by Blackbird, or a grand strategy title made by Paradox, nearly any developer except for EA.😭
@aljoshilagan3204
@aljoshilagan3204 Жыл бұрын
@@sixthcairn tempest rising looks very promising.
@Daltastar2012
@Daltastar2012 Жыл бұрын
This video definitely helped me learn how to make a better GDI & Nod Deck on wargame red dragon
@janoycresva919
@janoycresva919 Жыл бұрын
He is back at it !!
@LionTroy
@LionTroy Жыл бұрын
I love that you didn't include the 4th game, I love you for respecting the ACCEPTED cannon.
@Duke_of_Petchington
@Duke_of_Petchington Жыл бұрын
New canon idea: GDI Aerial/space fairing warships- 1.Havoc-Class Frigate. 2.McNeill-Class Cruiser. 3.Shepard-Class Battlecruiser.
@OverseerMoti
@OverseerMoti Жыл бұрын
Oh, a new coverage. I'd dig in.
@EndNoble
@EndNoble Жыл бұрын
Thank you for reigniting my interest in CnC.
@igncom1
@igncom1 Жыл бұрын
I never did like the change to most aircraft to make the ones with bullets have unlimited ammo like the hammerhead and venom. I'm fine with warships like the Scrin use or Soviet Kirovs having unlimited ammo, but otherwise you end up with swarms of fast destroy-all aircraft like hammerheads, venoms, or twinblades swarming about like mutalisks from starcraft. Just not for me, I much prefer my aircraft to be very different to other unit types like tanks and infantry.
@obelic71
@obelic71 Жыл бұрын
Strategic placed lightly armoured slingshots often made minced meat of airthreats. They also have unlimited ammo like most of the units in the C&C universe. Later on only non rotary air units (Orca, Firehawk, Vertigo, Mig, F117, Raptor and Aurora etc.etc. ) had return to base to rearm. The Apache / Helix in C&C generals also had unlimited ammo.
@igncom1
@igncom1 Жыл бұрын
@@obelic71 yeah but it was never really a mechanic that really jelled with me. Aircraft with ammo, barring the slow airships, always felt like a more enjoyable difference with ground units.
@tunguska2370
@tunguska2370 Жыл бұрын
Hammerhead is just Soviet Twinblade Slingshot is just bullfrog The TwinFrog meta is real
@obelic71
@obelic71 Жыл бұрын
@@tunguska2370 Soviet twinblade is more like a Helix. They both can transport vehicels.
@drunkenslav2334
@drunkenslav2334 Жыл бұрын
Oh boy i cant wait for the nod air force video
@scorpionscorpion9162
@scorpionscorpion9162 Жыл бұрын
Awesome videoooo
@arturohernandez5857
@arturohernandez5857 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for lore video my man 👨 ❤
@arturohernandez5857
@arturohernandez5857 Жыл бұрын
Okay
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 Жыл бұрын
5:45 It's body is pretty much completely C5 but the wings are C130. You can tell not only by the propellors but also by how thin and flat they are compared to the more chunky and strongly shaped wings on the C5. You actually can't physically put such thin and flat wings on a plane that big. A heavy planes demands thicker wings to bear the load and flatter wings produce less lift so demand a higher angle of attack but do grant more maneuverability and less drag which is why you often see them on fighter planes. The C130 is meant to operate from forward air bases and to possibly dodge AA fire or use it's flares to distract them before escaping.
@eezaak21
@eezaak21 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff!
@arround1
@arround1 Жыл бұрын
15:40 It's funny how you can clearly see the two blocks for launching unguided missiles (two cone-shaped things with holes around the tip) under the wings of Hammerhead, next to the two pairs of machine guns, and this helicopter in the game is only capable of firing machine guns and that's it
@Emanon...
@Emanon... 7 күн бұрын
A regiment is usually 100s of troops. A brigade is traditionally 1000+ troops. But your point is still completely valid regarding the Hammerhead.
@arturohernandez5857
@arturohernandez5857 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for lore video my man 👨 thanks bro 😎
@kafs1822
@kafs1822 Жыл бұрын
Love all the cnc videos from jethild, there's so much lore to study
@rylansorenson3247
@rylansorenson3247 Жыл бұрын
I hope we get to see videos on GDI and NOD infantry sometime
@Lieutenant_Volkov
@Lieutenant_Volkov Жыл бұрын
I was just about to suggest this
@kleinerfarmer1
@kleinerfarmer1 Жыл бұрын
09:20 that MCV told me it only has a wide structure but " isn't heavy or so " ^^
@OzgeKatip
@OzgeKatip Жыл бұрын
Still love the Ox's design so much.
@ForTheBrotherhood
@ForTheBrotherhood Жыл бұрын
As i remember if you play Alexandria on easy mode you will get a heroic Mammoth carried by an OX.
@SirFreelanders35
@SirFreelanders35 Жыл бұрын
there is concept art of GDIs X-O Powersuits equipped with jetpacks being deployed thru the bomb-bay doors on a unknown aircraft. would have loved to see that in a new C&C FPS game that is set between tiberium dawn and tibreium sun
@syos1979
@syos1979 Жыл бұрын
I love how the pretty large writing error of an entire regiment, upon hearing it I just thought "They suddenly have miniturized scrin portals in there?"
@BlindArcher0000
@BlindArcher0000 Жыл бұрын
@Jethild 9:20 Imagination and speculation: in order to be able to lift an MCV V-35 could receive a special modification, unavailable to a field commander under normal circumstances.
@kellereclub3828
@kellereclub3828 Жыл бұрын
I'm impressed. I wanted to nit pick on the First Tiberian War - my expertise area - but you got what I had in mind plus more. And no, those were not new planes - they were indeed incorrectly modelled. That unnamed plane was another incorrectly modelled F23 Black Widow.
@HiFiASMR
@HiFiASMR Жыл бұрын
Almost makes me want to play the missions since I never seen some of this stuff in multiplayer. lol.
@ThePrimeboy1
@ThePrimeboy1 Жыл бұрын
the unknown TW1 GDI aircraft is the YF-23, the rival design to the F-22
@mcsquizzy440
@mcsquizzy440 Жыл бұрын
It could be there would be a special heavy lift variant of the ox transport that would be required to transport heavier vehicles like the mammoth or MCV, but that isn't reflected in the game
@anonviewerciv
@anonviewerciv Жыл бұрын
3:20 It's just weird seeing an A-10 without the BRRT or the Hellfires.
@ZevesG
@ZevesG Жыл бұрын
imagine the armor being the thing that dates the game the most.
@TiberiumGames
@TiberiumGames Жыл бұрын
Excelent videos, some corrections 10:25 Firehawk drop bombs, not air to ground missiles, also if a hammerhead contains a Rocket Squad or Zone Raider squad it can attack aircraft and even destroy venoms in one to one battles.
@Juria1987
@Juria1987 Жыл бұрын
ZOCOM Hammerhead swarms with the faction's special troopers within...the stuff of nightmares.
@user-ub7ik2wd3i
@user-ub7ik2wd3i 10 ай бұрын
Su-27/35 with the GDI insignias would look great.
@KR1EGL3R
@KR1EGL3R 6 ай бұрын
Fun Fact. Both dropship and Kodiak are in fact Orcas. Full name of dropship is Orca Dropship. And Kodiak was a name of most known OCV - Orca Command Vehicle.
@mrfclarke
@mrfclarke Жыл бұрын
At the risk of sounding like a Nod follower the Firehawk is an example of GDI’s decadence the craft requires an AI to work and constant maintenance but they’re not willing to scrap it.
@shovelgames9960
@shovelgames9960 Жыл бұрын
you are awesome
@glenmcinnes4824
@glenmcinnes4824 Жыл бұрын
The OX could lift heavy vehicles, just not in Field conditions, it took a lot of time and expert labor to prep them for transport plus specialist equipment only available in more permanent facilities.
@drakko26
@drakko26 Жыл бұрын
Think the issue with the Ox being able to airlift a ConYard but not a Mammoth or Titan or anything else is more because of the mass - i.e. the ConYard, unlike frontline units, doesn't really have that much armor and may not be as heavy.
@Kameth
@Kameth Жыл бұрын
I'm going to make a wild assumption - The reason the V-35 had apparent weird weight limits like it could carry a mobile construction base but not a smaller but large tank was not to do with weight, but lack of appropriate mounting points on the vehicle is carried or the V-35 itself. For whatever reason, the mobile construction base had appropriate mounting points which enabled it be carried but certain large vehicles did not.
@gelo9760
@gelo9760 Жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken if the hammerhead got a squad of missiles squad , they can be used not only ground but also air. They shoot any air enemies that chasing the hammerheads
@TomQuoVadis
@TomQuoVadis Жыл бұрын
You know when I was younger I thought it was weird that GDI didn't have any jets or anything in Tiberian Sun, but we see all the time that ion storms will knock aircraft right out of the sky so risking expensive jets making long missions when an ion storm could pop up at any time isn't smart. Helicopters make sense as they'd have an easier time taking off and setting down at a moment's notice.
@xxnoxx-xp5bl
@xxnoxx-xp5bl Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say that GDI's air forces surpassed Nod's during any way past the First Tiberium War. I mean, Nod start using Scrin and plasma technology pretty quickly. And the drop-ship is pretty clearly based on Orca technology IMO.
@teatanks6481
@teatanks6481 Жыл бұрын
the only Nod aircraft using scrin tech was the Banshee, which was a limited prototype. After that it was back to older designs. GDI maintained a large fleet of fighters and bombers throughout all 4 conflicts.
@xxnoxx-xp5bl
@xxnoxx-xp5bl Жыл бұрын
@@teatanks6481 The Harpy was specifically designed to catch up to the Orca, but I'll agree that Nod was behind on the bomber side during the Second Tib War. But by the third war, there seems to be very little between GDI and Nod in air power. Not sure what this 4th war you speak of is. Every time I try to think what it is you might be talking about I begin to pass out...
@teatanks6481
@teatanks6481 Жыл бұрын
@@xxnoxx-xp5bl GDI had what can only be described as air dominance in TW3, having the only fighter jet between the two factions. Also tiberian twilight exists and I mention it specifically to make petty childish people mald
@xxnoxx-xp5bl
@xxnoxx-xp5bl Жыл бұрын
@@teatanks6481 While Nod was employing stealth aircraft giving them parity in a different way. Awe look at you throwing out the slang. I didn't expect a little joke to trigger you so much... Poor dear.
@MrMustang1945
@MrMustang1945 Жыл бұрын
Classic C&C music still slaps!
@Orangejr36
@Orangejr36 Жыл бұрын
The unidentified fighter at 4:50 is a YF-23
@ice111110
@ice111110 Жыл бұрын
if you put Zone Raiders in a Hammerhead they with shoot their missiles at air targets in self defense as well as shoot their sonic grenades at ground targets
@slobodanmitic1354
@slobodanmitic1354 Жыл бұрын
At around 5min mark there is a combat between the F-22 and an unknown fighter jet. I always thought and still do that it was not the Brotherhood's Raptor but the GDI's. The author of this video bases it's assumption on the next appearance of this mysterious fighter in the view of the Nod's SAM site being shot down by it, but if you look closely, the first mystery aircraft is quite different from the one shot down by the SAM. So...it doesn't necesserily mean that the first one is the GDI's fighter, and it seems that the second one is completely different aircraft.
@keuroe
@keuroe 3 ай бұрын
GDI 공군은 제 1차 타이베리움 전쟁부터 제 3차 타이베리움 전쟁까지 단 한번도 바뀐적이 없었으며 육군만 들쭉날쭉하였지만 유일하게 공군만 현상 유지 및 몇부분이 추가된적이 있다.대표적인 주력 전투기인 오르카 파이터는 퇴역을 거치지 않고 오로직 개량의 개량을 거쳐 지금의 오르카 파이터가 되었지만 놀랍게도 옆동네 스타크래프트 2에서 비슷한 공격헬기 밴시가 출현하게 만들었는데 얼핏보면 베낀거라 생각하지만 베낀거보다는 오히려 영향을 받은게 더 가깝다.왜냐하면 오르카 파이터가 전자이고 밴시(스타 2 전투헬기 밴시)가 후자이다. 제 1차 타이베리움 전쟁에서는 A-10 공격기가 주로 공중 폭격 역할을 맡고있었지만 NOD의 가짜 뉴스 공작으로 인해 UN으로부터 자금 지원이 끊겨버린 바람에 전투기 개발에 늦어지게 되었지만 타이베리움 실험 폭로 덕분에 UN이 다시 제정신을 차리게 되었고 다시 GDI의 자금 지원이 진행되었으며 어렵사리 새로운 전투기가 나온것이 바로 오르카 파이터이다. 오르카 파이터는 제 1차 타이베리움 전쟁때 개발된 신형 전투기로 전투기보다는 건쉽에 가깝지만 어찌되었든 전투기는 맞다.주 무장은 드래곤 토우 로켓으로 공중에 잠시 있으면서 로켓을 발사하고 그다음에 다른 방향으로 이동하여 발사한다.수직이착륙이 가능해서 착륙장에 착륙하면 자동으로 로켓을 보급해주지만 수리는 못한다.아직 초기형 착륙장이라서 아직 그 기능이 없다. 치누크는 NOD도 운용하고 있는 그 치누크가 맞으며 GDI의 공중 수송 역할을 맡고 있다.GDI 와 NOD 양쪽 모두 운용하고 있지만 색만 다르다 GDI는 사막색이고 NOD는 어반색이기 때문에 구별하기 쉽다.당연히 무장은 없다.레니게이드에서는 캐리올 역할까지 하며 주로 중전차 나 험비를 파커 대위에게 지원해준다. UH-60 블랙호크는 GDI의 주력 수송 헬기이며 인게임에서는 안나오지만 거희 대부분 시네마틱 영상에서만 나온다.주로 침투 작전에서만 쓰인다. A-10 썬더볼트 II는 GDI의 공중 폭격 지원을 해주는 공격기로 말 그대로 공중 폭격을 하지만 NOD SAM 발사대 때문에 공중 폭격을 할수가 없으며 SAM 발사대를 전부 파괴되면 공중 폭격이 가능해진다. 이외에도 C-130 허큘리스 수송선이나 E-2 공중 정찰기도 운용하지만 거희 대부분 작살나거나 보병 공수용으로만 쓰이지만 인게임에서는 아예 안나오고 거희 대부분 시네마틱 영상에사만 나온다. 제 2차 타이베리움 전쟁으로 넘어가면 오르카 기술력이 더 극대화 되며 오르카 수송선 과 오르카 트랜스포트 그리고 오르카 폭격기가 개발이 되었으며 오르카 파이터는 오르카 파이터 Mk-II로 개량되었으며 드래곤 토우 미사일에서 공대지 유도 미사일로 교체되어 화력이 강화되었다. 그리고 이에 오르카 기술력을 더 극대화 하여 폭격기화 시킨것이 바로 오르카 폭격기이다. 오르카 폭격기는 A-10 썬더볼트 II를 대체하기 위해 만든 폭격기로 오르카 파이터보다 비싸고 속도가 느리지만 그래도 화력은 강력하다.주 무장은 고폭탄으로 3발만 장전되어 있지만 그 3발의 위력이 엄청나다.거희 3기~4기만 띄우면 진정한 융단 폭격 파티를 벌일수 있다. 그리고 수송 기능까지 나와 오르카 캐리올이 나왔다. 오르카 캐리올은 느려터진 차량을 수송하기 위해 제작된 수송기로 캐리올의 모티브는 당연히 듄의 캐리올이며 듄의 캐리올은 주로 스파이스 하베스터를 옮기기 위해 제작되었으며 언제나 늘 같이 동행하고 있다.GDI의 캐리올은 주로 속도가 느린 차량 즉 디스럽터 나 매머드 Mk-II를 운송하는데 쓰이고 있다. 물론 더 극대화 시킨것이 오르카 수송선 과 수송선가 있다. 오르카 수송선은 주로 보병들만 탑승시킬수 있는 소형 수송선으로 보병 5명만 탑승할수 있지만 실제로는 20명 이상 탑승 시킬수있다.특히 민간인이나 돌연변이들을 구출할때 쓰였으며 싱글 플레이에서만 나오며 조작은 할수 없다. 수송선은 오르카 수송선보다 엄청 큰 수송선으로 중요한 물자 와 보급품을 운송하는 역할하는 대형 수송선으로 대부분 타이탄이나 샌드스톰을 운송 지원해주며 물론 싱글 플레이에서만 등장하기 때문에 조작은 할수 읎다... 코디악은 마이클 맥닐의 주력함이자 사령선으로 코디악은 대부분 상공이나 궤도에서 전투를 관망하는 사령선 역할을 하고 있다.물론 특정 스테이지에서는 코디악이 그대로 착륙한 상태에서 무방비 상태가 되는데 반드시 코디악을 보호하는것이 주 목표이다.하지만 비극적이게도 제 2차 타이베리움 전쟁 이후 카이로 기지에서 태시터스를 비롯한 대부분 정보를 회수하고 돌아가는 도중에 이온 폭풍에 의해 작살나버리고 만다. 제 3차 타이베리움 전쟁으로 넘어가면 대부분 제 1차 대전 당시로 회귀된 부분이 상당히 많다. 오르카 Mk-IV는 오르카-III를 대체하기 위해 개량된 개량 모델로 주 무장이 공대지 유도미사일이였다가 다시 드래곤 토우 미사일로 교체되었으며 무려 6발 무장되어있다.원래 부무장에서는 개틀링 건이 있었지만 결국 짤렸다.옆동네 스타2에서도 밴시에게 보조 무장인 레이저포를 착용하려고 했지만 역시나 짤렸다.참고로 타이베리움 워 어드밴스드 모드를 설치하면 기수 부분에 발칸포가 장착된 오르카를 운용할 수 있다. 오르카 MK-I 과 닮은 오르카 전폭기가 있다 오르카 전폭기는 오르카 Mk-I 과 닮은 전폭기로 500원만 내면 폭격을 해주는데 쓸모는 없다시피 하지만 방어 시설 파괴 및 성장 가속 장치 파괴, 견제 또는 적 대공 화력 분산용으로 유용하다. V-35 Ox 수송선은 캐리올 과 오르카 수송선을 대체하기 위해 만든 신형 수송선으로 이건 따로 생산하는게 아니라 소총병이나 매머드 전차가 따로 호출해서 탑승시킨다.수송 비용은 500원으로 비용은 저렴해도 뭐 없는것보단 나을듯하다. 오르카의 화력 지원을 더더욱 보강하기 위해 진짜 주력 전투기가 탄생했는데 바로 불새 전투기이다. 불새 전투기는 오르카의 어정쩡한 화력 과 제공권 확보하기 위해 그제서야 개발된 첫 주력 전투기로 오르카보다 빠르고 제공권이 더더욱 특화되었으며 주 무장은 헬캣 소이탄 2발로 물론 비행장에서 무장을 바꿀수 있는데 공대공일 경우에는 레틀 스네이크 미사일로 교체 되고 지대공은 아까 말했던 헬캣 소이탄으로 무장한다.또한 성층권 비행이라는 특수 능력을 이용. 성층권까지 올라갔다가 목표지점으로 급강하하는 일종의 워프 능력도 지니고 있다. 물론 주력 공격 헬기인 해머헤드가 있는데 이건 케인의 분노인 ZOCOM의 주력 전투헬기라 설명만 하겠다. 해머헤드는 보병 지원 및 수송을 담당하는 전투 헬기로 발칸포 2문으로 보병의 화력 지원은 물론 수송까지 할수 있으며 업그레이드시 세라믹 장갑으로 방어력을 보강할수 있으며 철갑탄으로 교체되어 공격력을 상승 시킬수있다. 그리고 불새 전투기보다 더 빠른 전투기가 또있다. 수퍼소닉 전투기는 GDI가 개발한 또다른 신형 전투기로 초음속으로 접근하여 폭격하며 주 무장은 음파 폭탄으로 그 위력은 압도적인 힘을 자랑한다.게다가 너무 빨라서 왠만한 NOD 항공기 나 스크린 항공기를 전부 조져버릴수 있다. 유일하게 오르카 파이터는 단 한번도 퇴역하지 않고 모든 시리즈에 다 나온 개근 전투기로 대부분 성능 개량으로 모든 시리즈에서 나왔으며 정말로 퇴역 된적이 단 한번도 없었다.
@draconisthewyvern3664
@draconisthewyvern3664 Жыл бұрын
i wouldn’t call the Hammerhead a NOTAR. NOTAR is usually referring to the helicopters that use engines (to push air) to counteract the rotor forces. Dual Rotor is usually what’s used to refer to helicopters with 2 sets of blades/rotors
@doommetalvibes741
@doommetalvibes741 Жыл бұрын
I love the firehawks
@Seth-Halo
@Seth-Halo 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact about the Hawkeye EAW, watching a special from the old collectors box thing, I vaugly remember them mentioning that the first thing ever shown publicly of CNC was the cutscenes of it crashing. I remember someone saying something like they had no other information on what the game is but they where interested by that alone. The fact that the brotherhood where the ones using raptors kinda blows my mind. The idea that the gdi would use the mig over the raptor is just... I dunno. It feels wrong lol. Tbf as stated, they share some equipment so it's possible the gdi does indeed use raptors. But why use a raptor when you can use the thing that hunts raptors lol One reason I could see them giving the brotherhood a raptor in the cutscene is to establish how more advanced gdi is supposed to be. Back then and even today, the raptor is one of the most advanced jets in the world. So showing that gdi has something that can take a raptor is a good way to establish their technological superiority. Like in superhero things where they beat the bad guy by the end and then the next bad guy in the next entry is even stronger. Like in the movie with thors hammer. There's one game that takes place on an aircraft that is being escorted by f22s and it's used to establish the technology of the world because they are mentioned as being outdated relics. Iirc most ace combat games have you flying an old mig during the start of the game but I think electrosphere started you with a raptor or an f14 or something. I could just Google it but the point is using the f22 as a primitive or lesser thing is a rarely used but interesting way to subtly mention how more advanced technology has gotten for either the world or a faction
@mkvector9539
@mkvector9539 Жыл бұрын
The Unidentified Aircraft is probably called the Warhawk or the X-186 Scimitar.
@stormlordeternal7663
@stormlordeternal7663 Жыл бұрын
It is weird I always imagined the Ox would be a good soft cookie shape, they just look edible and delicious.
@generalcat7678
@generalcat7678 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@danilonakazone386
@danilonakazone386 Жыл бұрын
Hey Can you make a video about infantry? Like a frew curiosities, database entries and such? For GDI, NOD and the Forgotten?
@EvelynOccult
@EvelynOccult Жыл бұрын
Maybe the ox just cant lift the titan, mammoth, juggernaut, rig and harvester due to them being awkward to carry and/or unload or not designed to be carried while the mcv was designed to be moved by ox to help in the mobile part of the mcv's name while gdi didnt see a use for having the others be able to be moved by the ox, for me this makes sense due to the titan and juggernaut being large two legged mechs, the harvester isnt really needed to be moved by a ox due to it refineries not being to far from tiberium fields, the rig idk probably just not designed or awkard to carry but this js me trying to give a reason for them not to be carried and im sorry if this is a mess of a paragraph.
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