Wise ? Facts!

People think KD slaughtered Lebron in these finals because of "crunch time". But there totals were very similar. That just means KD could coast in the first half and still be up by 5-10 points. Kyrie and Lebron outplayed Steph and KD imo. Considering the rest of GS could actually play defence (Iggy Draymond Klay).

Timo Cruz exactly KD had more energy for the 4th

www.si.com/nba/2017/06/08/lebron-james-case-nba-finals-mvp-warriors-cavaliers. This Talks About Ur Point. The Haters Say "I Think Kyrie Averaged 29PPG & K-Love Averaged A 2x Double." My Thoughts : K-Love Shot 38% & How Many Of His Points R Assisted By LeBron? Kyrie Put Up 4AST Per Game As The Starting Point Guard." But Anyway, Their Point Is LeBron's To Blame For The Loss, & That he Had Plenty of Help This Time So They Don't Want To Hear Any "LeBron Needs More Help". But The Fact Is He Didn't, In Game 3, LeBron Was A +7 in The 46 Minutes He Played, In The 2 Minutes He Didn't, -12. -12PTS in 120 Seconds. The Cavaliers In 125 Minutes That LeBron Played The Cavs Net Rating = -8.6, In The 19 Minutes LeBron Has Been Off The Court The Cavaliers Net Rating Is ... -45.4!!!!!! WTF.

@ Jackson English? Heard of it?

So fucking true

@Jon Davis is he the general manager or something?Stop the bullshit . He would be hated if cavs acquired another star for that matter since they had kye

Played dogshit defense

@Jon Davis Just because Durant wanted the easy path doesn't mean lebron also does

@@johnggg7770 yeah u ain't gonna play much defense when u averaging 33 12 and 10.

Kyrie Irving I really want to know his decision for next season. No pun intended.

Kyrie Irving but what do you think he is thinking. We all know LeBron wants to win but would he think about how much respect and hate he'd possibly get of he bails on Cleveland again. Would he leave Kyrie? I just want King James to win

Kyrie Irving boy I actually wish I could be Brons business partner and tell him the decisions he has to make for his career lol

iFenom_z Let's see 2017 NBA Finals Lebron 33.6 PPG and 12 RPG and 10 APG and 56% FG Cavs outscored Warriors by 6 Points with Lebron on the Floor in 166 Minutes Warriors outscored the Cavs by 25 Points without Lebron on the Floor in 25 Minutes Cavs bench outscored by over 50 + Points by Warriors All Lebron fault huh? 😂

jocriss Let's see 2017 NBA Finals Lebron 33.6 PPG and 12 RPG and 10 APG and 56% FG Cavs outscored Warriors by 6 Points with Lebron on the Floor in 166 Minutes Warriors outscored the Cavs by 25 Points without Lebron on the Floor in 25 Minutes Cavs bench outscored by over 50 + Points by Warriors All Lebron fault huh? 😂

Can I use this?

mmmmm no. he lost in 2015, 2014, 2011, 2010 etc.

He didnt even make the finals in 2010 Idiot

what are you talking about, the warriors drafted their core. Lebron joined forces with a "herd" in miami.

Bleedat bro.... 2015 no kyrie no love, Warriors only won in 6, 2016 full lineup against full lineup the cavs won in 7, then the warriors go pick up an MVP, gtfo

Daniel Somar lebrons a snitch and a snake

Traypeats KD a snake bitch

Kd did outplay Lebron in the finals though, obviously in an OKC jersey that would certainly never happen bc being surrounded by all stars helps, but he still got outplayed and kd had probably the best statistical finals series ever

stupidnamewaster how do you out perform the first triple double avg in NBA history?

NBA finals history I meant.

Kevin Durant was paid to join the Warriors so LeBron wont 3 peat. Just look he left the Warriors for 2 years. Didnt continue after that same year LeBron left the Lakers. Its obvious. LMAO

@@jackjax7921 You're leaving out the part where the Warriors pressured him into tearing his Achilles tendon and potentially ending his career.

@@siphillis bull kd went out therethe warriors said it was his choice

@@jackjax7921 that's not true. KD was there in 2019, he just tore his achilles.

NLMB DONo sad we could only see 5 games of it

NLMB DONo honestly I think it was his best. Avg a trip dub but the all around scoring prowess is just sublime. Attacking the rim, posting up, step back 3, fadeaways and hook shots plus floaters. Jordan can be the goat but lebron is the goat in my eyes. He's simply better overall then anybody I've seen.

Izzy Carter exactly bro but niggas is not gonna realize how much he impacts the game until he retires don't get me wrong mj is the goat legacy wise but if we talkin about all around player it's definitely lebron no doubt

NLMB DONo bro Jordan played basketball at the right time , he was the prototype of today's era , because he's was miliennial playing in a 90's

We could of seen 6 games if he doesn't choke away game 3. I think he's the GOAT but clearly game 3, up 6 under 3 minutes, Lebron came up short⛔️

bruh looking at these highlights now is crazy! Looks like he completely dominated the series in every way and somehow lost in 5

@@fawadchaudhry6654 that's how good the warriors are. 73-9 then they add the second best player in the world and people blame him for getting swept. This is the most unfair team of all time when they turn it all the way up they are damn near unbeatable.

@@fawadchaudhry6654 well did u look at the teams ? The greatest team of all time assembled to take down bron cmon man

Mayank Chawla there have been 3 teams that have dethroned LeBron one of them weren't even high contenders

Ringz 321 Umm the Mavs were DEFINITELY high contenders. They swept the defending champions Lakers with Kobe in the 2011 playoffs. That shows you that they were the real deal

yall always forget that the mavs swept the lakers that were the favourites and champs.

yeah but they weren't even favored to make the Finals lol the 2013 spurs weren't favored either and they almost beat lebron's superteam.

this is not the first time he losses. you know that, right?

big time

Thank my Niqqa, exactly 😂. This is what I’ve been tryna tell people 🙏

@@justnahayo8490 lmfaoo, this ain’t even a debate after what just happened

@@bloop2184 big facts

Here after warriors won without him again

Yeah when you play up to your level of competition (in this case, arguably the greatest team ever assembled) in a finals series, I don't see how you can even be given a L. We should judge players by their individual performances as well, I feel like those aren't mentioned enough. People always glorify MJ dropping numbers on the celtics in the first round but dont praise lebron for dropping numbers on warriors in a FINALS series? That's so weird.

just the scoring makes him look like he completely dominated the series in every way...but then you take in that he also had 12 rebounds and 10 assists averages...INSANE!

bill antoniadis no he won't he isn't winning any more rings

Al Bundy F.B.Z. it's factssss

lmao

@@ringz3215 lebron just went to the west on a garbage lakers and now by year 2 he is champion, you were saying..?

@@KilluaHG garbage Lakers? He had a superstar on his team lmao.

no

kd fucked Lebron up

He did for a few seconds and then they lost a 10 point lead

James D. Savage exactly nigga can't even get rest for 1 min without them being outscored

Keith Gillespie I know right and when KD got touched on his face he ran to complain to the ref and they gave him the foul snake ass

Bertrand Dumond another reason why kd is a BITCH

Al Bundy F.B.Z. Lmao😂😂

It’s not Lebrons fault his teams don’t come up big, seems to be a league issue. Many teams seems to fall thru when it counts the most

Attention Currsexuals takes a superteam to beat a superteam

Cavs weren't a superteam in the Finals. Maybe leading up to it they were but during the Finals they were playing 2-on-5 basketball pretty much with lebron and irving

86SuperRay So you mean they are super team but didn't play to their potential

To be a super team you have to actually play to your potential. Potential means nothing if it doesn't show up on the court

86SuperRay You act like they were put together and had all this hype like the lakers teams with Nash and Howard or to a lesser extent Malone and Payton those were teams that had a ton of hype and carried the title super team but lost it because they never met expectations. This Cavs team won a championship last year so people can't say they aren't a super team just to give Lebron another excuse or whatever the goal is. The Cavs are a great team that made it through the east with only one loss. Not everyone showed up in the finals and that's simply on them, but they still have tremendous players

Adelmi Felipe he's the true GOAT that's why

stfu oberon had 2 other all stars and a rebounding monster in thompson. Fuck off with your bullshit bitch

Ricky Bruno dumb ass

I can't believe people are still pedaling this retarted narrative

Adelmi Felipe * 2 Prime MVPs with an addition 2 top 10 two way players

who kd?

wish granted

Hope you’re happy rn

Wish granted

Sike Lebron is

@@bigcamgoated9690yea I meant LeBron

He has been too injured. Plus to go from a post player to a stretch is hard. Look at Bosh, he was never the same, and he only ways better than Love cause he could defend.

But, also Kyrie and Lebron are 25+ scorers. Love is around 15+. So, he isn’t going to score past 25. So, he basically is just rebound and be a third scoring option. Which is made up of threes.

@@matthewgarcia7945 Yeah but the problem with Love is he turned to a Low Post scorer to a Stretch, but when he tries to play in the post like he did against Durant and Draymond he couldn’t even backdown KD c’mon man I know you changed to a stretch but you can’t backdown KD or neither draymond (I know draymond is a good defender but Love is not even making moves on the post like in his old days), which is crazy Like Chris Bosh would’ve made atleast a difference for the Power Forward position plus like you said he’s defense, but we already knew from the start Klove couldn’t defend but he could’ve tried and be consistent on his game when playing with Bron and I feel like if he tried he could’ve been deadly consider you the defense were always focused on Bron and Kyrie imagine Love being a threat but all he was doing was getting rebounds and shoot 3’s but not on a consistent basis. You can tell Bron and Kyrie wanted to win this finals but the lack of consistency from the other players is what made the team lose this series and plus the Warriors team but they could’ve put a better fight the Cavs

Son of Ethiopia Nope all it would be is that he played longer so he missed his chance let's just wait for the next prospect

Jack Hunter lmao this is a retarded argument, Lebron playing longer is just another testimony to his greatness and another way that he is better then MJ.

kd is better than Lebron

Juwan Dunbar L dumbass

I wish Kyrie had stayed. They could have retooled and got revenge the way Lebron played in 2018.

Nuts out for Mike VI along with Kyle korver, dahntay and James jones, don't forget Tristan....

quiksilyᴴᴰ Korver give what u need tbh a couple shots off the bench Lebron not letting James Jones go and Dahntay Jones that spark

just need a goddamn 3pt shooter korver love william all chocked goddamnnn

Another 3 point shooter is not what the Cavs need they need better restricted area protection and an All-NBA defender. Basically they need an upgrade on the defensive end but they need to keep up most of the offensive production while doing

i agree.

Draymond also

McGee thought he could block Lebron too. Ended up with two and 1 buckets. And the dunk was crazy.

Jas Sohal game 5 he played his ass off

TT isn't bad this bad Finals performance was probably a fluke given how well he's played under pressure in games in the past. Love is the problem.

86SuperRay Wtf you mean he got outrebounded by Curry.

Thompson was out rebounded by a point guard... Kevin love was excellent a rebounding. Get rid of Thompson, move love to the 5.. and get melo..

Reuben Varughese man it was crazy. Brons a pure animal lol

Then LeBron felt bad and got him another ring lol

Finally, found the McGee comments. I’ve been looking for them forever. McGee is so funny. Like he wants to block but decides at last minute to not jump. Shaqtin A Fool MVP right there.

Kyrie helped that’s it

2 mvps and 4 allstars. The second and third best player in the world vs the best. It has never happened before and will probably never happen again.

you're missing the special ingredient which is coach pop! lebron has never had a legendary coach while kobe and mj both had phil and magic had pat riley

Who said anything about it being someone's fault? Would MJ won 6 outta 6 without phil? Would kobe have his 5 rings without phil? We will never know just like pop and lebron. The facts are there you're just dense if you don't think pop could elevate lebron even more

Pop changes the system due to personal are you kidding me? you think the spurs has ran the same system for the past 20 years since pop joined? watch some basketball then come back to me, they've adapted to every era in the past two decades but yeah "lebron won't fit in the system" LOL

He's already changed it multiple times with tim duncan and robinson to ginobli and parker...first down in the post with the big men stars then to a more ball movement tempo with parker getting to the rim, they've even changed in the last couple of years letting kawhi get his touches more which is why he's an allstar, pop knows how to bring the best out of everyone that would include lebron no reason why it wouldn't with their basketball minds together, just shut the fuck up countless NBA minds have said if lebron wants to win he should go to the spurs next if he does leave. But yeah pop doesn't change the system you fucking downy

Nah more like chris broussard if you even know who that is, and what fucking rule changes are you talking about. so the reason why has pop ran a team with players far apart in primes successful for 20 years is because of rule changes not catering to the players strengths? in the late 90s and early 2000s they ran everything out of the post with duncan, they would basically throw it to him and let him try and score or dish to the outside...years later once parker and ginobli got acclimated they started doing a more pass centric offesense with parker driving and slashing. Once they started getting older and kawhi got more years under him he's been the focus of the offense clearly as his numbers go up, watch kawhi win MVP this season but YEAH POP DOESN'T CHANGE THE SYSTEM FOR HIS PLAYERS.

Fr man bro was unstoppable the most underrated performance I’ve seen

Exactly. What KD did was so much worse than anything that’s ever been done in NBA history l

They wouldn't go 6-0 even if larry bird wasn't on the showtime lakers. Yet alone if he was.

Everything Comics you're crazy Michael Jordan won 3 titles with only one all star Scottie Pippen and Scottie never put up Kyrie Irving stats in the Finals. Mj also wouldn't have choked away game 3 at home like lbj.

chris wilso bro do you know pippen was the best two way player in the league maybe second to Jordan himself, foh downgrading him like that. Plus in the league back then you didn't need as MUCH offensive firepower to win a title. Lebron has definitely gone up against way better teams in the finals

chris wilso oh and put mj on the 07 cavs and see if he gets out the first round

David Hernandez downgrade him lol he avg 16ppg for a career and yes he was elite on defense but that's it he couldn't carry the load on offense and make clutch shots like Kyrie did. and put mj on that 07 Cavs team that was top 5 in defense and Mj probably gets atleast two wins in the finals against the spurs. LeBron has only faced two teams that were better in the Finals both being the warriors. if you forgot the Utah jazz in the late 90s beat the spurs to get to the Finals too in 97-98

you didn't need as much offensive power? lol in the 1993 FInals the scoring margin was ZERO. that's when MJ averaged 41 ppg. you did need a lot of offensive power to win, as MJ proved in 1993.

He was there in 2017 they lost u don't know ball

Nuts out for Mike VI Facts i gotta a feeling Lebron not gone go.

lol, dude you so right, i have a feeling he's gonna make kd play so bad against him and average under 23, lol, ur so right

yep, kd actually helped Bron out BC now ppl cant say Bron gotta have superstar to win BC clearly against these warriors u do. Once he find the team to beat them it's a wrap, u see GS tryna get pg next year too smh call mj the goat all y'all want but I've NEVER seen a team win 70+ games to a man and felt they needed to add the top 2 or 3 player in the world to beat this same man. THEN try to add pg??? After u got best back court in history? three of the last five mvps? dpoy? three dudes who can give u 50/60 any night? one of em dropped 60 in 29 minutes?And u still need all stars???? IDGAF wat nobody Bron is the MF GOAT!!!!!! The heat were classic but nowhere as good as these warriors

Reido S oh Lebron is easily the goat dude its not a debate anymore after the 2016 NBA finals. Came back 3-1 against a 73 win team who had at the time a 2x league MVP(1st unanimous) and he lead BOTH teams in points, assists, rebounds, blocks, and steals. Averaged 30/11/9 on 53% the whole series. Like easily the goat imo. Once he gets to 5-6 rings it won't be a debate. Only argument MJ has is rings which Lebron is closing on.

Nuts out for Mike VI ikr cuz he's going back to OKC soon M.M.W