Gee Bee Z - Engine Test, Taxi Run, & Flight - 2020 Archive Compilation

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4 жыл бұрын

We've had a few requests recently about featuring Kermit's Gee Bee Z racer in a clip. Here we reach back a few years to show the last time the Z was being prepped to fly. The clip has three parts . . . an engine test, a taxi run, and ends with some archive footage of Kermit's last flight in the plane. Check it out. Could this posting be a prelude to the Z coming back out to play??? Stay tuned!
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@ceebee2
@ceebee2 3 жыл бұрын
That thing is terrifying-the touchiness of the controls, the nose heaviness, the close proximity of the engine to the pilot, how high the nose angle is on taxi, the fact that from the second those wheels hit the runway you’re only a twitch away from fishtailing, nosing over or groundlooping
@grimace1965
@grimace1965 4 жыл бұрын
I fell in love with these beautiful little planes while watching the Rocketeer when I was younger. This example is no different. It looks like something out of a cartoon than real life. What an incredibly beautiful plane. Congratulations.👍👍👍
@MrShadowpanther3
@MrShadowpanther3 3 жыл бұрын
Lol that Storch just gently floating to the ground! Love how these engines start on like 3 cylinders and slowly the rest wake up till the thing finds it's full roar. Then you hear the air getting abused as he rolls on the prop pitch. Truly a monster motor with the minimum wings and tail bolted on.
@myfavoritemartian1
@myfavoritemartian1 3 жыл бұрын
When Kermit says "That's interesting", He means it was a wild ride.
@1timcat
@1timcat 4 жыл бұрын
"You sneeze and you'll end up upsidown in a bean field"
@randomdude9269
@randomdude9269 4 жыл бұрын
Upsidown
@airgliderz
@airgliderz 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, great safe plane, designed to race, needs a great pilot like weeks to keep ahead of it.
4 жыл бұрын
The tail feathers are just a suggestion.
@1timcat
@1timcat 4 жыл бұрын
@@airgliderz Quote from "The Rocketeer"
@dougscott8161
@dougscott8161 4 жыл бұрын
WOW! What a plane. Did any one else see the ironic contrast of the Fiessler Storch coming in for a landing as thr crew were wheeling the GeeBeeout on the tarmac for the engine tests? The fastest and the slowest!
@carljohncroll5671
@carljohncroll5671 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I didn’t notice the Storch until I looked for it a second time. I like both of these planes.
@AN2Felllla
@AN2Felllla 4 жыл бұрын
The engine with a plane attached to it.
@gliderfs621
@gliderfs621 3 жыл бұрын
@owocek41 Sad I153 and i16 in the background
@dougscott8161
@dougscott8161 3 жыл бұрын
It seems more likely "an engine with wings on it".....lol.
@ajwilson605
@ajwilson605 3 жыл бұрын
@@dougscott8161 An engine test stand, "with wings!"
@fromgermany271
@fromgermany271 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my first thought! An engine with wings.
@TobinTwinsHockey
@TobinTwinsHockey 3 жыл бұрын
I see so many aircraft and think “man I would love to fly that” then I see this GeeBee and I’m all....nope nope nope
@lavejim11
@lavejim11 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree...I do not think that beast would be a lot of fun...of course, we could be wrong. Low passes at 260 might get the blood pumping!
@375GTB
@375GTB 6 күн бұрын
Memories of seeing the R2 flying (and climbing out) on knife edge At the DuPage County AirShow Some 30 years ago... Requiem! I cried THEN And am crying now.. God Bless ALL! BOTH planes need to be FLOWN! Regularly J.C. Age 74 years young! Born in Ybor City, Tampa FL. 1949 Hung out some weekends at our Vandenberg Airport Eurika Springs, US-92 & US-301 From 35rd grade to my early 20's Semper Fi
@billbright1755
@billbright1755 4 жыл бұрын
Go Speed Racer Go! 💨 Two guys that can fly anything, Bob Hoover, Kermit Weeks.
@angelreading5098
@angelreading5098 4 жыл бұрын
What a machine that stands out even today,she is a beauty Kermit and so pleased you have this one for your collection,we could see you working hard on that rudder as she came over the threshold,this will be a wonderful exhibit in the air racing section that you have planned.
@sonny1597
@sonny1597 3 жыл бұрын
I got to stand next to and take some pics of this aircraft in 2008 when I visited Flights of Fantasy. Got to meet Kermit too .. he took a group I was with up in his Trimotor .. I got to fly seat! One of those memories for a lifetime. Thanks Kermit.
@Frank-rh7vh
@Frank-rh7vh 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Mr. Weeks, please stay healty and be with us for a long long time... THANK YOU for all your works !!! Frank
@terranceroff8113
@terranceroff8113 4 жыл бұрын
All of a sudden I'm getting flashed from Disney's "Rocketteer" though my head... what a lovely little plane!
@alohathaxted
@alohathaxted 4 жыл бұрын
Terrance Roff I only remember Jennifer Connelly in that white dress. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q6dhm86Ttd2rfWw.html
@rileycpo
@rileycpo 4 жыл бұрын
Just watched that last Friday. There were two planes, or they painted it yellow and white, in the movie. Is this one of those A/C?
@brianbell564
@brianbell564 4 жыл бұрын
alohathaxted Me too!
@johnmichaelgavin3617
@johnmichaelgavin3617 4 жыл бұрын
rileycpo yes it was
@TS-ef2gv
@TS-ef2gv 3 жыл бұрын
@@alohathaxted Jennifer Connelly was my two favorite things about that movie
@Foxtrot_EW
@Foxtrot_EW 2 жыл бұрын
This video is so impressive!!! When they released this a week ago for MSFS 2020, I purchased it without any hesitation and I am so impressed that there are real pilots out there that can pilot this craft because it is insane!
@sonnyburnett8725
@sonnyburnett8725 3 жыл бұрын
This is the airplane that scares the Gee Bees out of me! No joke, it really does. Kermit, total respect!
@K-Effect
@K-Effect 2 жыл бұрын
Just don't flight over 220 mph and you'll be fine
@siddharthsharma8940
@siddharthsharma8940 2 жыл бұрын
@@K-Effect Why not over 220?
@gazzertrn
@gazzertrn Жыл бұрын
yeah hes the greatest .But the plane looks like a russian polikarpov , wonder if there's a connection .
@oldschoolman1444
@oldschoolman1444 Жыл бұрын
​@@siddharthsharma8940 wing flutter will tear the wings off!
@nozmoking1
@nozmoking1 4 жыл бұрын
"Where's the damned CG?" "You're SITTING in it."
@rolandtamaccio3285
@rolandtamaccio3285 4 жыл бұрын
,,, if this was a car, it would could be called, CCC, for Close Coupled Coupe .
@richarddarlington1139
@richarddarlington1139 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not entirely sure the Gee Bee Z had a CG.
@Capecodpilot13
@Capecodpilot13 4 жыл бұрын
I've been a huge fan of the Gee Bee planes for years! So glad she will be running again! Now if we can get another Hughes H-1 airworthy!
@michaelmurray7199
@michaelmurray7199 4 жыл бұрын
I passed my Private Pilot Knowledge Test about 2.5 months ago, so I’m one step closer to fulfilling my New Year’s Resolution from 2017 of obtaining my Pilot’s License so that I can fly planes for real like you do in these videos.
@robertlafnear4865
@robertlafnear4865 4 жыл бұрын
I give ya a thumbs up but not many folks can "fly" like Kermit.
@mqbitsko25
@mqbitsko25 4 жыл бұрын
Don't start with that one.
@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935
@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 2 жыл бұрын
Just keep finding enough money. Some day it will end.
@davetherockguy
@davetherockguy 4 жыл бұрын
The prettiest of all the twitchie widow makers in my opinion.
@johntempest267
@johntempest267 4 жыл бұрын
Great description
@55Reever
@55Reever Ай бұрын
Watched a documentary on the Granville Brothers, what a fascinating story.
@DustyBalz
@DustyBalz 4 жыл бұрын
I have been a pilot for 30+ years , many different air craft. These airplanes are cool and General Doolittle made her sing in the sky, however this little beast would scare the hell out of me . Safe flights Kermit
@craigpennington1251
@craigpennington1251 4 жыл бұрын
Holy Cow! What a beauty! Gee Bees are like real life cartoon planes. Very very cool. You guys just keep showing awesome stuff. Thank you so much.
@CMFL77
@CMFL77 4 жыл бұрын
She looks like an absolute handful to land & remain aware of where she is headed!
@tonywitherspoon6844
@tonywitherspoon6844 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you that takes me back to my child Hood and my Grand Mother who worked for Nortnhwrop. Deeming ww2 and she was a pilot too.
@kat13man
@kat13man 3 жыл бұрын
Brave man flying the geebee.
@RaoulStankovitch
@RaoulStankovitch 4 жыл бұрын
My Dad (early Golden Age air racer for Cessna) was offered a seat in a Gee-Bee. Declined, he didn't like the prop wash over the control surfaces.
@tricosteryl
@tricosteryl 3 жыл бұрын
Gee Bee aircrafts are so unique and impressive :) I had the luck to see Delmar Benjamin displaying his R2 in flight. Thank you for sharing !
@KermitWeeks444
@KermitWeeks444 3 жыл бұрын
This is Delmar’s Z! I now own it
@thomb629
@thomb629 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, and brilliant to actually see it flying! Especially the landing. Good sink rate, then wheeling it on smoothly right at the beginning of the runway. Class!
@timothyroth8073
@timothyroth8073 2 жыл бұрын
One SWEEEEEET sound and sight !
@alcourtines4707
@alcourtines4707 3 жыл бұрын
Kermit, I grew up in Spfld, 1/4 mile from where these racers were built. Father built primary glider and Heath Parasol in one year at age SIXTEEN! I studied autopilot sys. in the USAFRes in the 70’s. Presently own Northwing ATF. Great thing you are doing there in FLA!
@iam5692
@iam5692 4 жыл бұрын
Kermit can fly a bowling ball. This guy is great.
@n7565j
@n7565j 4 жыл бұрын
I'm probably the only person in the world who would LOVE to see the counter weights working on that huge prop in slow motion while you're running through the run up checks... Beautiful A/C sir!!! Thank you for preserving these amazing pieces of history :-) If I ever get back to FL, your aviation museum will be on my list of things to see, along with a SpaceX launch!!!
@Skinflaps_Meatslapper
@Skinflaps_Meatslapper 4 жыл бұрын
That's entirely possible. I'll give you some of those junky ass counterweights if you want, I can't stand them. Bunch of worthless greasy hockey pucks bolted to flimsy coffee cans that take weeks to get around to changing pitch. I'd take a hydromatic hub any day.
@tedbriscoe6649
@tedbriscoe6649 4 жыл бұрын
What a great looking aircraft. "Stubby" absolutely, but aggressive and graceful at the same time! Quite a handful I'm sure.
@Farmer-bh3cg
@Farmer-bh3cg 2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Doolittle won the Schneider Cup flying the GeeBee Speedster in the '30s. His comment after he won was "I'll never fly that thing again."
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 3 жыл бұрын
The image that goes through my mind when ever I think of the Bee Gee is that one that crashed corkscrewing.
@vehdynam
@vehdynam 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic ! I am just fascinated with these Gee Bees, thank you so much .
@justinbrink7912
@justinbrink7912 4 жыл бұрын
When I was a wee lad I obsessed with aeroplanes, in particular this entrant in the 1988 Guinness Book of World Records. I always wondered what this little sucker sounded like. Now I know, and I thank you for that.
@crooked-halo
@crooked-halo 2 жыл бұрын
I wish you would comment on the flight characteristics of the Gee Bee. This plane had a reputation of being challenging to fly and to land. The "flying coffin," the "killer bee," Jimmy Doolittle called it "the most dangerous airplane I have ever flown." Wow, and hats off to Kermit and this gorgeous plane!
@fromaggiovagiola9128
@fromaggiovagiola9128 4 жыл бұрын
That was some intense radial action! Great footage.
@K-Effect
@K-Effect 2 жыл бұрын
That's a beautiful yellow and black engine stand
@SAVikingSA
@SAVikingSA 4 жыл бұрын
People: That's a nice Gee Bee Me: Holy shit was that a Storch in the background landing?
@chokini2
@chokini2 3 жыл бұрын
@@JetFire9 0:57 I see a Storch too. What is it?
@tricosteryl
@tricosteryl 3 жыл бұрын
@@chokini2 I confirm Fi 156 landing, with argus engine it seems. Or a nice replica... Nice beats on this platform, 6:13 a civil converted Sunderland in the hangar...
@patrickporter6536
@patrickporter6536 3 жыл бұрын
I thought so too.
@scottgorman7166
@scottgorman7166 3 жыл бұрын
Yea did you see that too? Oh so very cool
@HSKFabrications
@HSKFabrications 3 жыл бұрын
Ja
@johnharrison1429
@johnharrison1429 4 жыл бұрын
Love the hidden compartments for the electronics.
@UncleKennysPlace
@UncleKennysPlace 4 жыл бұрын
I had a model of this plane as a child (I built many models, mostly flying; I'm about Kermit's age and also a pilot). It always scared me, just to look at it! I wouldn't try to fly one. But very cool to see.
@danielledykgraaf6483
@danielledykgraaf6483 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Mr. Weeks sir.....love the radial sounds.
@pR1mal.
@pR1mal. 4 жыл бұрын
Insane aircraft, then and now.
@dlsmallenginerepair
@dlsmallenginerepair 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, Thanks for sharing. Looked like a handful to land!
@davef.2811
@davef.2811 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love it!! Keeping the spirit, Kermit!
@jimf3932
@jimf3932 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Weeks, Sir, YOU. HAVE. NERVES. OF. STEEL. Wow... What an amazing- and a bit scary- airplane. Remembering old newsreel images of men like Doolittle and Bayles actually racing those things, throttle to the firewall... GEEZ!!!
@tomwinchester55
@tomwinchester55 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for posting!
@Turboy65
@Turboy65 3 жыл бұрын
What an insane contraption. Tiniest plane, biggest engine combination possible. NO PADDING for the pilot's back. Must be about as comfortable as taking a nap in a washing machine.
@donaldparlettjr3295
@donaldparlettjr3295 4 жыл бұрын
Where oh where is Jennifer Connelly. One of my favorite movies " Rocketeer".
@kiwidiesel5071
@kiwidiesel5071 4 жыл бұрын
Lol she was an absolute babe in this movie...wait when still is😂
4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry Donald, she doesn't even know you exist.
@CS_247
@CS_247 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, don't know why it got such a bum rap, it was a great movie! And she was as spectacular as always...
@BAZZAROU812
@BAZZAROU812 4 жыл бұрын
That's a beast... What a awesome machine..
@treywest268
@treywest268 2 жыл бұрын
Such magnificence!! Both to the plane and pilot!
@artd.
@artd. 4 жыл бұрын
another great video kermit
@robedmunds7163
@robedmunds7163 3 жыл бұрын
Iconic. Look forward to some modern HD flight video
@neatstuff8200
@neatstuff8200 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds beautiful
@brothersjames9262
@brothersjames9262 3 жыл бұрын
Wow so awesome Kermit I just love your enthusiasm the people around you, people that work around you their enthusiasm as well to keep the aircraft in pristine shape to be able to fly in today’s environment wow just love it 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@jamesfrost7465
@jamesfrost7465 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you wouldnt fly this one Mr. Weeks..... we love you.
@reidcurtis1350
@reidcurtis1350 10 ай бұрын
I wish you the best! This series is so interesting, from a pilot' view.
@lorenzodunn3226
@lorenzodunn3226 Жыл бұрын
Excellent film footage and sound. Great commentary.
@nathanpitts1591
@nathanpitts1591 4 жыл бұрын
Have read extensively of the Granville brothers and their marvelous aircraft. Zantford "Granny" Granville was the inspirational leader of the group of 5 bros that created the Model Z. The idea was to take the most powerful engine they could find, the Wasp, and taper the rest of the aircraft rearward from that diameter. It worked and even looks FAST sitting still! They sold stock to investors to help fund the aircraft. It was called the "Springfield Air Racing Association" referred to as SARA, which is painted on the cowling. When Lowell Bayles won the 1931 Thompson Trophy race the investors did very well on their investments. Sadly Bayles was killed at the Detroit speed course in Dec of that year. Bayles was not only a great pilot but a great friend and almost a member of the Granville family. "Granny" was devastated by the loss and was going to give up, but found the courage to build the R-1 and R-2, the following year. Jimmy Doolittle, who was probably about the greatest flier America ever produced, won the Thompson in 1932 in the R-1, his only experience in that aircraft was flying it from Springfield to Cleveland. Theirs is a story of great pioneer work in the field of high speed flight, but tempered with tragedy as you would expect from that era where very little was known of the forces that worked on an aircraft at that kind of speed. Doolittle was the first man to receive a degree as an aeronautical engineer, was the first man to make an instrument flight and of course led the raid on Japan, flying an Army B-25 bomber off the deck of the aircraft carrier Hornet, early in 1942. He was also the only man who truly mastered this particular aircraft design.
@davelewandoski4292
@davelewandoski4292 3 жыл бұрын
can't wait to see you flying it again!
@fcku9040
@fcku9040 Жыл бұрын
Belle machine, un bijoux historique ! Bravo !
@BigWheelHawaii
@BigWheelHawaii 3 жыл бұрын
This "Kermit Guy",,, He's Got More "EGO",,, Then All The Members of "The Big Red One",,, Put Together... The Difference Between a "Runaway EGO" and "Kermit's EGO",,, Is That He Can Back Up That "EGO",,, With Talent... Yes,, Yes,,, He Has a "Blessed Life",,, He Knows That... But He Also Willing To Share That Blessed Life With Us,,, The Less Fortunate Souls... He Shares All Of It,,, "The Good",,, "The Bad",,, and "The Ugly",,, He's a Very Courageous and Giving Man,,,
@gormauslander
@gormauslander 2 жыл бұрын
What
@RCUKScaleModels
@RCUKScaleModels Жыл бұрын
can't wait to see you flying it again!🤙🤙
@adlodewijkx6386
@adlodewijkx6386 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for sharing. Regards from Holland.
@daleebbinga8779
@daleebbinga8779 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to seeing it fly again!!
@JeffinLowerAlabama
@JeffinLowerAlabama 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing with us, great flying history in this Geebee, Jeff in LA USA
@danielkeirsteadsr6939
@danielkeirsteadsr6939 4 жыл бұрын
Nice landing .I was holding my breath too.
@ChrisB257
@ChrisB257 4 жыл бұрын
Just wonderful. Always wonder about the drag ratio on that machine!
@7775Kevin
@7775Kevin 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a cool video. Looks great. That landing looked pretty hot. More skills than I have, that’s for sure.
@earlcousins6635
@earlcousins6635 4 жыл бұрын
That was SO COOL!!! That's for keeping it flying! WOW!
@roverdad
@roverdad 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful aircraft. Must be interesting to fly being so short with a tiny rudder. Thanks for sharing.
@danmay9728
@danmay9728 4 жыл бұрын
In the archive flight video, that is one sweet, sweet sounding plane in the fly bys. Be safe. Peace.🇺🇸
@harrowtiger
@harrowtiger 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Kermit, thanks.
@richardbillhartz4537
@richardbillhartz4537 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like it tried to ground loop three times on roll out. You da man!
@fitzyholden1036
@fitzyholden1036 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful little machine.
@PhalanxFire
@PhalanxFire 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this. I saw Delmar fly at OshKosh years ago. I even had an autographed sweatshirt from then. On that date the plane he flew was red and white I believe. I am an R/C modeler and have had a few Gee Bees my self.
@aerialfocus
@aerialfocus 4 жыл бұрын
PhalanxFire smalling The Red & White GeeBee most of us saw at Oshkosh was DElmars replica, different airplane. This was built for the Disney movie the Rocketeer I believe, cam available after movie.
@davidwalsh7486
@davidwalsh7486 4 жыл бұрын
The Red and white one is a Gee Bee R1. This yellow and Black one is a Gee Bee Z.
@richarddarlington1139
@richarddarlington1139 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidwalsh7486 Actually, There was an R1, an R2, an R1/R2 made from parts, and the Long-Tailed Racer. Not all Gee Bees were intended as racers, although many of them were raced. In fact, the very first Gee Bee was a biplane. the Model A.
@coltons4436
@coltons4436 4 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a Gee Bee back at Oshkosh in the near future!!!!
@scooter2kool173
@scooter2kool173 4 жыл бұрын
The sprint car of airplanes. On the edge.
@ratman5727
@ratman5727 4 жыл бұрын
damn, this so cool, that is a beautiful machine, nicely done!!
@jay600katana
@jay600katana 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Gee Bee, my model is a great flying airplane but she needs your fullest attention at all times.
@banjoist123
@banjoist123 2 жыл бұрын
What an art deco nightmare. It looks like a cartoon fantasy airplane. I think they designed the cockpit/fuselage so that the pilot couldn't tell whether he was going to crash or not. That's the only way they could get pilots in them. The look like bumblebees that also don't look capable of flight.
@defencebangladesh4068
@defencebangladesh4068 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Plane... loved it
@77aleks77100
@77aleks77100 4 жыл бұрын
535 h.p. and a short fuselage concept. If you double the engine power with same concept you get I-16
@merkury06
@merkury06 3 жыл бұрын
Th Gee Bee is much smaller than I thought it was. Nice to get a sense of scale.
@BPJJohn
@BPJJohn 2 жыл бұрын
This plane look like it belongs in a Cartoon. Tailspin comes to mind ;)
@deeremeyer1749
@deeremeyer1749 4 жыл бұрын
That thing just looks and sounds p!ssed off and mean just daring you to mess with it. Its a lot like a Starfighter. It doesn't even look like it would fly, it's all engine and no b.s. and it'll flat-out smoke any "comparable" contemporary aircraft and a lot of much newer ones. I love it.
@johndavey72
@johndavey72 4 жыл бұрын
I know the real reason Kermit had that seat altered..... you need big ones to fly that little monster!!!😂😂😂
@bobcatt666
@bobcatt666 4 жыл бұрын
lol, fun literally sat up in my seat when Kermit fired it up for the taxi run.
@goo_rocket5897
@goo_rocket5897 Жыл бұрын
Splendid looking thingy !
@robertlafnear4865
@robertlafnear4865 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought TWO of those hats. Thank You
@vrosi1963
@vrosi1963 4 жыл бұрын
Only a aerobatic pilot like Kermit would attempt this plane . excellent flight Kermit. cant wait to see the typhoon flying or tempest . and P38 being restored to flight again
@quinnjim
@quinnjim 4 жыл бұрын
That’s phenomenal.
@leezinke4351
@leezinke4351 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful plane!
@men4skirts
@men4skirts 4 жыл бұрын
Lets hope it comes out to play again, a great little speed demon and design from when planes were breaking all the rules! Nice!
@georgestableford6846
@georgestableford6846 Жыл бұрын
I am in my 70's and love flying. I learned at 15 and had to wait until I was 16. I always admired the BG. A huge motor, a couple of wings and what more do you need!? My dad told me that it flew forward as well as backwards. That's what I wanted!! Thanks.
@fpvoslo
@fpvoslo 4 жыл бұрын
Nice little plane :) Thanks for sharing Yfr
@leop9021
@leop9021 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Mr. Weeks, My son and I very much enjoyed your book "All of Life is a School" thank you for writing such a wonderful book about such an important subject as the attitude that one must allways be learning in life if life is to be lived to its fullest. Someday it would be wonderfull to learn of how you learned to fly the Gee Bee Z given that there was no simulator and the sad history that all of her pilots of the past had been killed under mysterious circumstances durring her heyday? How did you learn of what I believe was an aileron reversal without suffering the tragedy of your Gee Bee pilot forebearers? Cheers to you sir, Leo - now age 52 Stavros - now age 7
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