Hes not average anymore, what kinda average guy can one arm pull up🤣

@@loveyou4676 what about me 🥺

@@averagecalisthenicsguy1504 Yoy're no average guy bruh💀

Former average middle age guy His new full title

@@averagecalisthenicsguy1504 stop trynna be normal

It's really cool how far he has progressed, and it's interesting to go back and watch the older videos to get some perspective! :)

Sprinting and distance running are indeed totally different things. But pull ups bw on max rep and weighted are more "connected" to each other. By bw pull ups you can already achieve a huge amount of strenght that helpls you with weighted ones

@@jmnew3463 how come he trained for endurance and he lost almost all progress on weighted pull ups? if you can achieve huge amount of strenght by endurance he shouldve lost some progress but not that much

@@lucasbarroilhet7237 probably didn't push his muscles(his limits) hard enough for endurance gains. At high rep ranges it is harder to know whether it is your muscles fatigued, or the internal stress is too much and you can't continue anymore. That is the mental trap of endurance training. Endurance and hypertrophy training is also different and people tend to think of them as the same. You can use the same methods, but endurance(reps above 15-20+) have better methods to be trained that will give better results. Probably increasing intensity in another way was the way to go. Like doing negatives after your normal pull ups are exhausted and/or decreasing your rest time between sets so you create more overload for your muscles. I don't know how many times in a week he trains but increasing weekly frequency is also a good method. When you can do 15+ reps of something, you can start to do this exercise more frequently, almost every day, to accustom your body for more volume, and eventually you may even come to the point that you are doing something multiple times a day. At first you don't see any progress in reps, but the daily and weekly volume goes up. So when you decide to fully recover after this type of training and test your limits again - your endurance has skyrocketed. edit: oh wait, I mainly wrote about endurance training, without actually answering the question, sorry. Here is the answer ↓ tldr: if he had properly trained endurance, his strength would have only gone up, not down, so that means he just didn't train endurance hard enough when he tried to train it. (strength gains are slightly different from hypertrophy, but full strength gains can also be gained through endurance training, if you train endurance on the verge of your limits)

But even so, doing sprint workouts will help your long distance;) key in any training is to shock the body!

​@twothreeoneoneseventwoonefour5 this is what I suspect. High reps require a different type of training. Former average guy trains well for low rep work but maybe not for high reps. BW+80% should equal 25 bw pullups btw. To only do 15/16 suggests he doesn't train it right. And I do think high reps needs more frequent training.

I stopeed progressing after 14 reps and then u did it weighted. Once i tested my max reps i feel very light until the 16th rep where i actually have to strain. Max pull ups is now 19!

@@sillyme2598 and that's due to the lack of endurance. As you solely increased your relative strength. Improving your muscular activation and output. However your muscle still fatigued because they weren't able to cycle oxygen, clucose and ATP as efficient as if you improved your endurance. Maybe incorporating bw pull ups time to time in your training could improve it. Hope it helps :P

That lines up with my experience with lifting. The best way to increase your rep count is to increase your absolute size and strength, and often the best way to do that is to train at higher loads in lower rep ranges (~6-15).

I was stuck at 14 pull-ups FOREVER it seemed, started adding a little weight, upped it to 15 easily…. Now I use a weighted pack with an extra 45lbs, after a week I was able to hit 16! My goal is to be able to do 20 body weight by December.

Not always true. While strength is undoubtedly one of the biggest deciders, endurance is much more complex. Muscle recovery, cardio, muscle efficiency, and energy storage capabilities are also vital components

@@Blobbyo25 wrong

@@sn0lder Why am I wrong? And why aren't the people with the heaviest weighted pull-up breaking the pull-up rep world records? It's like saying squatting heavy will make you a better marathoner. It's just not true. Endurance is about... Well, endurance. Having bigger, stronger muscles doesn't help with that past a certain point.

@@Blobbyo25 marathons and pull ups for reps are NOTHING alike

7:00 of the video says he can only do 16reps of body weight, so seems like weighted training does not add a lot of endurances in his case?

Can you do the front lever ? I heard weighted pull up help front lever

@@chriscox1535I can do 105 lb pull up and 4 reps one arm pull in both arms (I weigh 115lbs) . But I can only hold front lever for 5 secs. You should get a good base strength and train front lever specifically if you want to get better at it.

@@chriseatsrice4885 I can 1 rep max 65lbs weighted pull up. And I can hold the straddle front lever for 5 seconds. And I can hold the human flag for 5 secs,handstand for 3 secs,one arm push ups for 5 reps each arm and muscle up for 5 reps .

@@chriseatsrice4885 I’m also doing front lever raises without resistance band and also with resistance band

You're welcome! Best of luck to your training!

@@GeekClimber Thank you!

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I would assume the finger strength training protocol. I’d love to see him do a max hangs protocol for a video

not geek climber but i have roughly similar stats (current pullup pr is like 80% of bw and i climb at around v6-v7) and i went from about 40% ot 70% in two months, i'd say i felt some better strength and control on the wall but much less than when I did any form of finger training. I think this might be due to pullups not being as climbing specific as your raw finger strength, and maybe pulling programs could benefit from campusing or training explosive pulling strength.

I've been working on the bent arm press for a long long time and this time I think I am really almost there. Can't wait to finish learning it and share my journey to everyone!

@@GeekClimber Great video bro, cant wait to see what numbers you can hit on the weighted muscle ups! My Pr is 1 rep with +50lbs if you need any tips.

Yes, I believe Steven Low suggested the same thing too, but that would probably take me a longer time to hit the strength goal though.

If you're not on gear, sustain a decent diet and have some level of activity, you won't lose anywhere near as much as some of these celebrities.

dumbest fucking thing i've ever read here, he isn't even at 20 how do you want him to gain 50% more in reps in 1-2weeks, it'll probably take him a month if not more. And 50 reps ? That's beyond elite level of endurance, I highly doubt he'll ever come even close to 30 and I don't think you realise how hard 50 PU is.

It takes way longer than a week or two to work your way up to being able to do 25 pull ups. 25 reps is a pretty impressive feat.

For someone just starting sure, but this guy has a lot of strength and a history of endurance from climbing. Based on how slow he did the 15 reps awhile back, he could already do 20+ if he went faster and the push for 25 wouldn't take long.

@@clarkreimer9448 I agree with you the form was perfect and the reps quite slow, 25 is feasible but more than that will require serious training

Guy in the back lol

But he has plates in hand which means his chest activation is huge over using dumbbells for some magical reason some instagram personality made up.

Haha, wow. The core equivalent of flipping around a dumbbell to train forearms. Why use all that weight in your hands when you could cancel it out and rely on inertia instead?

Glad to hear that experts like you agree with my approach too! I think I probably got my "slightly different stimulus" from climbing.

@@GeekClimber do you do your workouts after climbing or just on the other days?

for how long are you training?

@@wallesdrop3026 can you clarify? When did I start pull-up training? If that's the question, 5+ years on and off.

@@Marusenpai OK. thanks

Yes that's competition form. As long as the chin is above the bar it counts. Doesn't matter if it's by craning the neck or by keeping the neck neutral. A stupid rule if you ask me.

@@SandevistanSky yeah because the point of pull ups is to develop upper body pulling strength. So the marginal increase in “strength” gained by extending the neck is (arguably) an illusion. Of course these guys and gals are very strong regardless...

Probably, I’d say consistent rock climbing is more of a muscular endurance activity then a pure strength activity

Getting stronger can unlock the possibility to more easily learn techniques that are transferrable back to being a bit weaker.

@@vasheldiablo507 if you're bouldering, that couldn't be further from the truth. I managed 84% bodyweight pull-ups purely from bouldering. I think he's mentioned his climbing ability has suffered due to finger injuries recently.

In my experience, my best progression with higher-rep pull-up endurance happened when I was max strength training similarly to how he does in the vid. Basically, used the same training for max strength, endurance improved as a byproduct because my bodyweight became further and further sub-max

Same

So I used to be stuck at 18, so to help get through that, I started doing pullups all the way up to my chest. The higher, the better. So I would instead get stuck at 12 or so doing that. I would do as many sets as possible (muscle failure) and then later on something just clicked. One day I was just able to do 22, then the next day 25 or so. I don't know if it was mental, but sometimes things just click. Also, after you've done everything to muscle failure you can start doing negatives. Basically jump up and hold at the top of a pull-up and see how long you can last holding. That's how I got up to my max. Wish you luck!

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@@csn583 When you can do 50 pullups but cannot get over that bar.

I think you definitely should start adding weight now

Hi there, I had the exact same goal in mind but could not achieve it. The highest I got was 5x9 reps body weight before I couldn't increase over a period of months so caved and starting adding weight. To my surprise I was able to add a lot of weight (20kg+) for multiple sets of multiple reps just from my bodyweight training. The point I'm trying to get across is that if you start training with added weight, this will probably increase the speed of your progress to 5x12 bodyweight, while also increasing your maximum strength. Once you've added significant weight, when you take it off and try bodyweight, it feels incredibly easy. I would recommend adding very small amount of weight and building up slowly over time. I used to add around 2.5kg or 5lbs at a time. Hope this helps bro. Don't want you kicking yourself and wishing you had added weight sooner like I did. I think once someone can do 7 or 8 reps 5 times they are more than strong enough to start adding weight and that will take their training to the next level. Good luck!

@@tomdoherty6284 Hey Tom, I only just saw this message and funnily enough I just started adding weigh last week. I can pull 20kg for reps too and my 1 Rep Max is with +30 kg strapped to my weight belt. However, I am adding weight incrementally so starting off with 2.5kg and will work up to 3 sets of 8 reps and then will go to 5kg and then 7.5kg and so on. I was just so fixed on achieving my bodyweight rep goal before adding weight. However, I realised that I am just delaying the process and I can do pull ups with good form so I shouldn't delay it any further and should go on the weighted route. Thanks for the reassuring advice as I can see that I am in the same boat as you.

@@Amo_1997 That's awesome man. I knew you would already be strong with weighted pull ups. Good to hear you are adding weight slowly but surely. It definitely unlocks more strength potential than staying with body weight. Best of luck to you!

You are definitely more well-rounded than me, haha.

Don’t do it all in one work out split it up into like 3 or 4 days

you only do 1 exercise per workout??

I do a Stronglifts 5x5 A/B split, plus supersets to failure. A: Squat/bench/row (+pushup/inverted row) B: Squat/press/deadlift (+hangs/farmer carries) Not currently training pullups but that's what I see the hangs progressing into. I already do some pullup-negatives (and leg raises) as part of my hangs, though it's more of a grip priority.