Geely's New LFP Battery is MIND-BLOWING! | 50 YEAR LIFE + FAST CHARGE

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Geely, who owns a handful of auto brands including Volvo and Polestar has developed an EXTREMELY long-life battery technology that has class leading energy density and charges quite fast as well. In this video I share what we know so far about this battery tech.
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@davidlloyd1526 29 күн бұрын

I'll believe it when it's in a car, not a press release...

@johngonon1507 29 күн бұрын

Actually there are multiple cars on the road with this battery in it ... but only in China. Zeekr 001 and Zeekr 007 for instance since last december I think. edit: actually it's the previous generation "golden brick" battery that is in those EVs, so I guess this version is even better

@spy_on_the_web 19 күн бұрын

But if it was Mercedes you would've used different tone

@whlphil 29 күн бұрын

I’m surprised no one else has really covered the Geely Golden Battery yet, the spec is kind of insane, the 75kWh pack in the Geely 007 can charge at 370kW - and that’s the base spec! This unit is surely going to turn up in a whole number of models Zeekr, Volvo, Polestar, Geely, Lotus etc under the Geely brand Well done for covering 👏

@vangpham2514 29 күн бұрын

electric viking channel did

@Techridr 28 күн бұрын

Yeah, It's heating up and Geely's offering really looks amazing

@CHMichael 29 күн бұрын

Immagine we had started putting this much effort into batterr 50y ago

@mike_w-tw6jd 29 күн бұрын

or 100 years ago, lead-acid was 1859! NiCd, NiFe around 1900

@CHMichael 29 күн бұрын

@@mike_w-tw6jd 70 - 75 we had issues with opec and that would have been a good time to concentrate on alternatives to oil. As you pointed out, 100y ago we actually did put a lot of effort into battery's, as much as technology allowed.

@johngonon1507 29 күн бұрын

the problem is graphene that started to be really produced since 2009

@rogerstarkey5390 29 күн бұрын

The "Chevron effect" See a technology which threatens your own? Suppress by any and all means available. It took A country with vision and a long term plan, A change in "Global perspective" And, outside that country, One company (Person) with a similar perspective... to change the game. A convergence of technologies and attitude.

@CHMichael 29 күн бұрын

@@rogerstarkey5390 laptop batteries and elon musk ?

@MrDingaling007 29 күн бұрын

Considering you only want to charge to 80% with the cobalt/manganese lithium batteries for longer cycle life. LFP is looking better and better.

@larryc1616 29 күн бұрын

+4000 charge cycles

@rogerstarkey5390 29 күн бұрын

"Considering" that on the relatively rare occasions "you" want, or rather "Need" to charge "A battery" to 100%, you can time your "NICKEL" (Manganese/ Cobalt) charge cycle to reach "100%" as you leave, and that degradation occurs if you SOAK the cell for a long period, it's not REALLY a problem, just a lack of education, or understanding.

@nfzeta128 11 күн бұрын

@@rogerstarkey5390 No 'soaking' reducing battery life more but even doing that last 20% of charging hurts battery life in those batteries.

@teardowndan5364 28 күн бұрын

The biggest problem with graphene and nano-tubes right now is that we don't really have any method of producing them in the desired sizes in a deterministic manner. You whip up a batch, hope for the best, sift out the sizes you need, pass the rest to whoever wants it and if nobody does, send it back through the process for the next batch.

@michelcote 28 күн бұрын

I heard that ball for ball bearings are similarly sorted. but I suspect that the yield may be better.

@teardowndan5364 28 күн бұрын

@@michelcote With rolling BBs, you have pretty good control over the base size by weighing the starting slug and can grind/polish them down to spec. With graphene and nano-tubes, you don't have much control over how carbon vapor deposits around seeds.

@JRP3 29 күн бұрын

I'm not impressed by press releases. Third party testing and real world use is all that matters.

@douglascutler1037 29 күн бұрын

Oh, you think China is kidding about it's battery innovation?

@brettmciver432 29 күн бұрын

@douglascutler1037 Believe but verify especially if it comes out of China. They are k own for lying also never believe a Democrat or liberal , take what they say with a large grain ,very very large grain of salt.

@GreenDriveIndia 29 күн бұрын

Yes unless it is mass produced and adopted .. nothing can be said

@williamcrowley5506 29 күн бұрын

Can’t just appreciate the info, hope it hits mainstream soon, and look forward to further advancements?

@MrQuay03 29 күн бұрын

@@douglascutler1037 prototype is easy, mass production is hell

@HouseboatRenovations 23 күн бұрын

been using LFP batteries for 3 years in solar business. Currently 200wh density and built in fire arrestor. zero problems. car manufactures continue to lithium (fire)ion batteries. The cells where developed by EVE.

@enzymeXfactor 28 күн бұрын

Excellent balanced coverage! Appreciate your support

@peterjohn5834 28 күн бұрын

Great report most appreciated

@SWR112 29 күн бұрын

Battery tech that treaded water for a time with small and scarce updates and breakthroughs has just went wild. Of course the investment went through the roof with EV’s but the jumps are beginning to be massive. Weight, density and cost all improved. We can look forward to big changes.

@rogerstarkey5390 29 күн бұрын

Battery improvement has been ongoing and exponential for 2 decades.... you just weren't paying attention. There will be various companies (Mainly, but not always Chinese!) leapfrogging in chemistry, materials, formats, manufacturing processes for the foreseeable future. "Enthusiasts" will proclaim each as "The killer" of others. THERE WILL BE A PLACE FOR MANY DIFFERENT CELLS AND APPLICATIONS. . What "we" SHOULD look for is "WHAT is the operating envelope for a particular application in terms of production, performance, cost, etc" and Does "A cell" fit the profile.

@hal3137 28 күн бұрын

Well done great wrap up.

@johnhiggs325 20 күн бұрын

Less dependence on a thermal management system could make this LFP more competitive with Lithium ion for real world range.

@Crabbytwo1 29 күн бұрын

Thank you Jon. Man would I Love to be a test driver as part of a team testing Electric Cars for a living!! I'd love to see the difference in cycles of NMC, LFP, LMFP and other Cell technologies in a real world scenario.

@TomTom-cm2oq 28 күн бұрын

With v2g, those cycles will be important and no battery will be around for 50 years if it’s going through multiple cycles daily. Also, those cars will be driving around 20 hours a day, so the battery will get more than plenty of cycles.

@jonmichaelgalindo 29 күн бұрын

Increasing battery energy density is the new Moore's law.

@frankmynard6325 29 күн бұрын

Geely is surprisingly important. It includes Proton Lotus Volvo Polestar Zeekr Lynk & Co

@Cleanerwatt 29 күн бұрын

Exactly! This is potentially a really big deal.

@joshuajorgensen3820 29 күн бұрын

These batteries definitely aren't more expensive. They are incredibly cheap. The geely galaxy e5 is released in a month. It starts at 20,000 usd in china! It has these batteries. The longer range version is only about 23,000 usd with 300 mile range! It's a total game changer.

@MrVanre 29 күн бұрын

not recyclable, you will put these in the ground or shooting to the moon, i call that a waste for the planet.

@rogerstarkey5390 29 күн бұрын

Jon 1:02 onwards You STILL quite clearly differentiate between "Lithium ion batteries" and "Lithium iron phosphate batteries" . I'll say AGAIN(!) . "Lithium ion" is the general classification of ALL batteries containing "LITHIUM" ("Li") . "Lithium iron phosphate" (LiFePO4) is a SUBCATEGORY of that set. . SO IS (for instance) NMC / Li-NMC ....Nickel Manganese Cobalt (LiNixMnyCo1-x-yO2) . The clue is the "Li" in the formula. . PLEASE start referring to "Lithium ion" vs (maybe) "Sodium ion" which are DIFFERENT "CLASSIFICATIONS" (Types) of cell... BUT Under (WITHIN) the "LITHIUM ion" classification, you should describe the SUB-SETS as "IRON based or NICKEL based LITHIUM ION cells" . REMEMBER you are providing information to: Those who understand. Those who THINK they understand (and will innocently relay incorrect/ confusing information) Those willing to learn (Who NEED the correct baseline) AND (?) Those who will continue to push incorrect information trying to undermine the knowledge. . You DID seem to make the correct distinction earlier... but consistency is crucial.

@factchecker9358 29 күн бұрын

Gee, how could you miss the charging difference and safety of lfp in the equation? Charging to 100 percent wins in my book.

@Twin.motors 29 күн бұрын

I've charged all my EVs to 100% since day one. If I had to charge to 99% I'd sell then and buy a diesel. It's absurd to sell a product and tell people to use only 80% of them

@seranne 29 күн бұрын

So you top of your diesel tank every day then?

@rogerstarkey5390 29 күн бұрын

@factchecker9358 You need to "Check some facts"

@Slayer-33 29 күн бұрын

Will this be delicious for my Polestar stock? Let's gooooo lol

@michaelwebsternz 29 күн бұрын

Used in a Robotaxi of 100K KM per year then the batteries would last 10 years in a Robotaxi, which is still very good. Not too many existing Taxi's would do 1M KM in general in their lifetime.

@lennyvalentin6485 28 күн бұрын

10 years of taxi cabbing and the interior would be looking incredibly shabby. Production cars aren't really built for that kind of constant usage so who can say how the seats would hold up (if at all) etc...

@Storm3451 28 күн бұрын

what about temperature sensitivity?

@DavidJohnson-yg8qm 19 күн бұрын

The charging quite fast bit sounds impressive until you understand the infrastructure required to actually transfer all this energy.

@barygol 18 күн бұрын

Where are the new LFP CATL batteries? Shenxing Plus. It's 205kwh/kg pack level

@teslabulls1238 29 күн бұрын

Amazing that Geely came out with this before CATL.

@rogerstarkey5390 29 күн бұрын

Have you ever been to the CATL website?

@psylinx 29 күн бұрын

Amprius has also branded its existing silicon nanowire platform SiMaxxTM with its current product range of up to 500 Wh/kg. George Davis

@rogerstarkey5390 29 күн бұрын

In mass production?

@beetle5000 28 күн бұрын

The difference is that these batteries are in vehicles now

@psylinx 28 күн бұрын

They're plant in Colorado opens about the end of this year. They will be supplying the battery for the aptera which I'm a reservation holder for

@beetle5000 28 күн бұрын

@@psylinx that’s a cool car 😎👌

@psylinx 28 күн бұрын

@@beetle5000 They start production next year and hopefully I'll get mine in 2026.

@jacobbusk6507 28 күн бұрын

Isnt this "just" the Golden battery Zeekr annonced back in december 2023 ? (Zeekr is an subsidiary of Geely)

@abebegirmay3327 29 күн бұрын

I would like also to see Tesla uses this LFP battery in thier rear wheel drive model 3 and model Y

@factchecker9358 29 күн бұрын

Is anyone looking into heat damage to the batteries in the desert?

@PETERJOHN101 29 күн бұрын

The latest batteries have improved thermal tolerance so arrid climates are well tolerated. In fact, it takes less energy to cool an EV than it does to heat one because there is no engine heat to overcome. That means cold weather can impact range more than hot weather. Having said that, it is important to maintain a parked EV in a moderate temperature range between 0C to 30C (32F - 86F) to avoid charging loss during storage.

@RWBHere 10 күн бұрын

As with all of these breaks-through in battery technology, I'll wait until we see the cells being used commercially, before making any decisions about it.

@user-yi8uu1du3b 26 күн бұрын

more Wh/kg offsets some of any cost disadvantage. And back of envelope calcs say 3,500 charge cycles would translate to 10 years of use at a charge per day, for commuting to work - 300 miles would be excessive.. A lot of people change their cars 2/3 times in that span.

@mike_w-tw6jd 29 күн бұрын

Volumetric energy is more important for an EV. I want to see that chart.

@paulbarker5179 20 күн бұрын

And unicorns really do exist honestly

@kaijen2688 29 күн бұрын

QuantumScape created a battery that can go 300k miles with only 3% battery loss. And it has been range tested in ID4 by Volkswagon.

@vx9636 29 күн бұрын

It's the battery the cybertruck should use

@beetle5000 28 күн бұрын

I’m pretty sure these are already in their new vehicles?

@castortoutnu 22 күн бұрын

That's actually what a million kilometer battery is. If you drive 20.000 km per year (which is above average), it takes 50 years to reach a million.

@Rhotz-ix8ll 4 күн бұрын

Don’t forget Toyota has had a solid state battery for years. We know this because they’ve said this many times.

@jedics1 29 күн бұрын

Lfp doesnt take you as far per charge as other chemistries but those loose capacity faster and need replacement sooner so how far does each chemistry take you in total before the pack fails?

@rogerstarkey5390 29 күн бұрын

Battery 101. "Chemistry" doesn't equate to "Range" "Capacity" does. A 100kWh "LFP" Pack has precisely the same RANGE as a 100kWh "NICKEL based Lithium ion" Pack in a similar vehicle (Disregarding the probable weight advantage of the Nickel based pack) . Focus on "kWh" NOT Chemistry. . "Longevity" (Life) is another discussion altogether.... BUT I do know that acclaimed experts HAVE said they have "Nickel based cells with zero degradation and better performance than LiFePO4 cells" on test (2023)

@gregbailey45 17 күн бұрын

*loose language...

@Urgelt 29 күн бұрын

Graphene is not a source for nanotubes. Well, no more than any other carbon. Graphene is a sheet of carbon atoms, a flat (but flexible) two-dimensional lattice one atom thick. Nanotubes are *tubular.* It's a different configuration for carbon atoms. You won't find any nanotubes in a graphene sheet - except perhaps as unintended during deposition. You make nanotubes through vapor deposition. Or you find them in nature. Either way, it's quite expensive to produce nanotubes with desired properties and purity, and achieving scale is difficult. Geely's announcement is interesting - but no more so than any other hand-built bench-test battery candidate. Unless Geely *is* commercializing these short Blade batteries? Geely's announcement is devoid of any price, volume or schedule information. Some perspective: lots of battery candidates blow the doors off contemporary commercialized batteries. Getting them to market is the hard part.

@Cleanerwatt 29 күн бұрын

Thanks for your helpful perspective and for the correction on the nanotubes and graphene.

@gregbailey45 17 күн бұрын

"Prototypes are easy, production is hard." - E. Musk.

@Ruslan_0990 29 күн бұрын

The must have studied the BYD blade battery carefully

@rogerstarkey5390 29 күн бұрын

Which BYD cell? You KNOW it takes years to bring a cell to production? (For instance they must complete an accelerated test program to be confident in the warranty?) That being the case, the same applies to BYD? So..... How did Geely get hold of the LATEST BYD cell to benchmark it? (DUH?)

@GWAForUTBE 29 күн бұрын

Always enthusiastic from a new battery break through but this wouldn't be the first time we were lied to from the Chinese.

@JohnBoen 28 күн бұрын

Looks like CNTs cost less than Graphene. A few percent by weight in CNTs and you may drop ESR quite a bit. Multi-walled tubes are cheaper, and they may work better to intercolate lithium... Thanks for the talk.

@olgglo 26 күн бұрын

WTF is CNT and ESR pls?

@gregbailey45 17 күн бұрын

*intercalate...

@gregbailey45 17 күн бұрын

@@olgglo WTF= What the Fuck CNT= Carbon Nano-Tube ESR= Equivalent Series Resistance Happy now? Wikipedia is your friend...

@JohnBoen 17 күн бұрын

@@olgglo Carbon Nano Tube. Equivalent Series Resistance.

@Bemx2k 19 күн бұрын

New batteries every week :)

@2kMario 29 күн бұрын

New battery every week :)

@drfasthousevonbrainstorm 27 күн бұрын

Nice. Still not clear how a Peltier cooling device cant be developed.

@gregbailey45 17 күн бұрын

They're generally quite inefficient.

@kylerobinson7572 29 күн бұрын

Can the Geely short blade batteries be charged to 100% on a regular basis? If so, that would help increase the daily driving range of an EV.

@Cleanerwatt 29 күн бұрын

Yes, they are LFP, so they can be regularly charged to 100%!

@rogerstarkey5390 29 күн бұрын

@@Cleanerwatt as can Nickel based.... Just don't leave them "soaking"

@StephCno1961 11 күн бұрын

Geely 16 mm thick "multi ear" Short Blade cell here : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iadipNyB0Le4pps.html Geely Aegis Golden Battery pack here : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fshzqNxnsq66qIE.html

@lastlion65 27 күн бұрын

when the Y has them then ill believe

@newscoulomb3705 29 күн бұрын

Cool. I just picked up 105 kWh of LFP for my Ford Ranger EV. They are only 1 C rated charging, but they are pushing past 180 Wh/kg. I will say, though, I think you're overstating the importance of weight. While reducing weight is always beneficial, the actual efficiency gains aren't that great. It's factored into the rolling resistance, which typically accounts for less than 10% of an average EV's overall energy usage.

@mondotv4216 29 күн бұрын

RR is inverse squared though with speed. So it cannot be ignored unless you only drive at 60km/h (about 37mph). Every Kg you increase in battery weight is a Kg less you can carry.

@newscoulomb3705 28 күн бұрын

@@mondotv4216 It is a static load, which is why its percentage of the overall energy consumption mix reduces as speed is increased (aero drag increases at the square of speed). So I'm not saying that weight isn't important, but its importance relative to efficiency is not as significant as a lot of EV folk try to claim. The weight is a bigger factor in other areas, such as acceleration and payload. As an example, the Chevy Silverado EV weighs 1,500 to 2,000 lbs more than the Ford Lightning, Rivian R1T, and Tesla Cybertruck; however, the Silverado EV's efficiency is almost identical to the dimensionally similar Lightning while being worse than the efficiency of the smaller and more aerodynamic Cybertruck and R1T. Likewise, despite the Chevy Bolt EV's weighing as much as 500 lbs less than the dimensionally smaller and more aerodynamic Tesla Model 3, the Bolt EV's efficiency (especially at speed) is slightly worse. What I'm seeing most from EV journalists who are new to the automotive space is that they have chosen brand favorites, and they try to invalidate EV offerings from competing automakers by citing metrics that ostensibly matter but don't actually have as significant of an impact as they claim.

@mike_w-tw6jd 28 күн бұрын

How does that much battery fit in a Ranger? Do you sacrifice the bed space?

@newscoulomb3705 28 күн бұрын

@@mike_w-tw6jd Short answer: Energy density. Long answer: I'm still figuring out the best arrangement in the factory battery pack. Each cell is over 1 kWh, and I can fit 98-100 cells fairly easily in the NiMH pack. The lead acid pack has a bit more room, but I have more work to do on that Ranger EV's chassis and powertrain before I finish rebuilding the traction battery pack.

@jreyesvega 18 күн бұрын

thIS BATTERYS IS sodium?

@klippe 24 күн бұрын

then theres the new byd condensed battery 500 wh

@davefroman4700 29 күн бұрын

Its not GEELY's battery at all. Its the BYD blade battery. GEELY does not manufacture batteries.

@waynerussell6401 29 күн бұрын

Volvo lists their battery manufacturer as Northvolt. But they are unable to produce commercial quantities and are loss making.

@johngonon1507 29 күн бұрын

Well technically it's Zeekr's battery ... which belongs to Geely. BYD are not the only ones making batteries you know.

@rogerstarkey5390 29 күн бұрын

@davefroman4700 have you looked at the Geely website? Maybe you should?

@vorpalinferno9711 28 күн бұрын

Its believable because its not very energy dense and is a somewhat good product. There is no "game changer" its a technology that works.

@take5th 28 күн бұрын

Legacy auto makers are screwed. Imagine hearing that ford or GM developed a new battery. Not in the cards.

@cristiancucu4100 27 күн бұрын

why do i have the impression that this is at best a prototype and at worst a concept just like the solid battery and that we will at best see it in about 10 to 15 years on the market an that bi that time chinese batteries twice as good ? so far the best batteries ( eve , catl and and something with a g ) are made in China

@chjin1796 18 күн бұрын

The car with this battery (Galaxy E5) will be available in early August.

@dyeace 29 күн бұрын

Shill, nice job pretending shexing plus, catl's lfp that has 205 wh/kg doesnt exist

@rogerstarkey5390 29 күн бұрын

Try "Shenxing Plus" 😉

@dyeace 28 күн бұрын

@@rogerstarkey5390 I was going from memory on a Chinese word lmao

@maxhugen 29 күн бұрын

That energy density at 192 Wh/kg is quite low in the battery world. Tesla's new 4680 battery has about 272 Wh/kg. Just as a point of comparison, petrol (or gas in the US) is equivalent to about *12,800 Wh/kg* !!!

@johngonon1507 29 күн бұрын

4680 is NMC not LFP ... so it's kind of normal to be above. You basically choose your tradeoffs. For petrol, don't forget that the engine will use only 30% to 50% of that (which is still more). But it's the same ... choose your tradeoffs.

@maxhugen 29 күн бұрын

@@johngonon1507 True... ICE lose a lot of the energy as heat etc. Seems like every other week, there's a "great new" battery. Maybe one day.... 😎

@vkham9944 20 күн бұрын

The U.S media "developed" new battery. 🤣🤣🤣

@tommckinney1489 28 күн бұрын

Carbon nanotubes? GLWT in mass manufacturing. 20-80% in 26 minutes? Kia/Hyundai e-gmp tech will do it in 15 minutes. I don't think these batteries will see the light of day in EVs.

@aguyfromnothere 23 күн бұрын

Batteries need to be able to provide for 400-600 mile range. Thats the crucial cutoff which is necessary for EVs to take off for everyone.

@sh5465 12 күн бұрын

192Wh/kg!!?? How is that any "Breakthrough"??!! I've bought them at 150-160Wh/kg since many years. With the blade form its probably the packformat that makes the difference. Instead of the nickel cylinder.

@johnbrown4568 28 күн бұрын

🥱😴

@Dave-po2ir 21 күн бұрын

50 YR LIFE HOW DO THEY KNOW THAT? LIKE LED BATHROOM LIGHT I GET FROM HOMEDEPOT THAT LAST LESS TIME THAN OLD STYLE BULBS BUY SAYS 25000HRS

@okcantbelieveit294 25 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@user-ui6lo1ub8f 28 күн бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@A3Kr0n 29 күн бұрын

YAGCSB (Yet Another Game Changing Super Battery). Or more clickbait bullshit.

@jiraiya86 29 күн бұрын

Lithium is still lithium mate. 🔥

@jimmurphy5355 29 күн бұрын

Sodium is sodium. Burns on contact with water. No way to put it out. And since sodium is sodium, that sodium chloride in your pantry is going to burn the house down one of these days.

@cptyler150 22 күн бұрын

Not good enough for anyone to buy that car need minimum of 1000-1600 miles to make a dent

@Cleanerwatt 22 күн бұрын

haha... why not make it 10,000 miles minimum?

@douggolde7582 29 күн бұрын

Does anyone need a 50 year battery?

@larryc1616 29 күн бұрын

Why not? You can always sell it for thousands to a recycler or energy storage co

@Techridr 29 күн бұрын

Obviously, yes. If you have a 50-year battery, that means in 10 years you might only have 2-3% degradation.

@waynerussell6401 29 күн бұрын

Every storage facility.

@rogerstarkey5390 29 күн бұрын

@douggold7582 "Does anyone need a 50 year battery?" Well... I think it's item 7 (8?) on the "Great Big EV FUD List" that "Batteries need changing every "X" years (Variable) so aren't fir for purpose" (Just above "...and they're not recyclable") . This is another nail in the leaking coffin of the FUDsters.

@miloradvujicic1282 9 күн бұрын

All lithium batteries are wrong investment and will be loses for all investors.

@bibihunden 13 күн бұрын

Mind-blowing??? The heavy weight of approx. 5kg/kwh, is still a big problem for EVs, as it wears down both roads and tires a lot, which in turn turns into microplastics containing 6PPD, which is a dangerous toxin that absolutely must not go into nature. Gasoline has approx. 12kwh/kg, so there is still a long way to go.