"You're not you when you're hungry." - Snickers

@@geetslys I'd feel sad for him if Meetra gave him a Snickers. He couldn't eat it because his body's gone... :(

@@geetslys that’s all he needed. If the Jedi had just given him a snickers his hunger would have been satiated and would just go home.

Yum

@@geetslys Snickers who then became Darth Mars

perfect description

But the Death star used Kyber crystals. So its just a giant lightsaber which would make this guy a giant lightsaber with a lightsaber

@@prowl1123 finally someone understands that

I’ll use that to describe him to friends now thank you XD

@@prowl1123 Lightsaberception

Elder powerful old sith: Imma use this sun to destroy the entire system and the ones around it just to clean some bugs

Dark Empire Sidious could rip holes in the space-time continuum and teleport people with them. He could also use Force Storms to ravage the surfaces of entire planets and devour entire fleets.

@@sirpepeofhousekek6741 Then why bother with the death star? checkmate, non-canon stans

@@thatpunkcatte Status symbol about fear.

@@thatpunkcatte Hes a big evil baddie with a big evil ego and needs a big evil planet destroying monument to himself obviously.

The rule of cool reigns supreme.

We came here for his design , stayed for the lore .

So true

@@joshualap401 very true

I'd HATE to be his head chef...🤣🤯

Underrated and unoriginal

@@generalgrievous8997 hi sir do you sell planets i can eat?

@@generalgrievous8997 Hello There

@@APersonOnKZfaqX general Kenobi

But sir, Sir.😂😂😂😂

You got that right

Unstoppable force meets immovable object.

@@geetslys hello there

Sidious (from the newest Darth Vader comics): You can't use the Force to survive or fight for this test. Darth Vader: I can deal. Darth Nihilus: NO!!! lol.

Light saber: I heat sand.

That makes no sense as when the fight she has clearly regained her connection to the Force.

@@corruptangel6793 Kreia re-established her Force powers by siphoning through others, while she herself remained a dead spot.

@@SkullLeader I haven't played in a long time, but I thought Meetra was the one doing all that and that she was the one who allowed Kreia to regain her power. That was her Wound, the ability to create bonds with those in her presence. Influencing those alive (which is how she "convinced" Sion to let go for example) and leeching the power of those she killed. Basically writing the game mechanics into the story. That's why the Jedi Council were so scared of her and try to cut her off from the Force again

@@SkullLeader at the very least she clearly has regained some of her power as of the Revan novel.

@@corruptangel6793 Kreia had taught her to regain her Force connection through other ways which is what I meant. She did, in essence, remain a dead spot in the Force.

Nihilus wasn’t really ancient

@williampg gois nah you know nothing. Nihilus is older than yoda and was around 3000 year before the phantom menace. However in the Star Wars timeline that’s the ancient era that’s the old republic

@@williampggois6620he’s older then Yoda by 2 gens and a bit

“If you were to face an ancient Sith Lord in combat ….. we are as children …..compared to the prowess of the old Masters” - Kreia A WHO A WHO A HEWHWHEHE THIS IS SPARTA GG NO RE

@@user-it2zg9sr7e but one would still merely be mocking him by engaging him in combat!

He is me

Tyranids and Angron have entered the chat.

@@JeanLucCaptain Life Eater Virus is on line 3, not sure if it's even safe to take a message........

@@banebeard SHE WHO THIRSTS IS ON LINE 4: SAVE YIUR SOULS!!!!😰

@@JeanLucCaptain fuck.... tell her I'm not here........ you let a chick tie you up ONE TIME and they never leave you alone.........

She brought you here to telos to set a trap

@@supremeleadergnkdroid3202 sorry I drank some force energy so my memory is kind of fuzzy so forgive if I have no idea what you’re talking about

Lol

You know it, mate.

@@GalvatronStudios that’s what surik tells nihilus In Kotor 2

To be fair it was a destroyer class so it was still quite impressive.

@@jankjaws9815 if it was a fleet I’d understand but cmon. Vader and post Endor Luke could do something like this.

@@neofulcrum5013 I agree. If Starkiller pulled down a whole fleet, I would be impressed.

@@neofulcrum5013 that’s way too far fetched. The only reasons Darth Scion and Nihlus were so powerful was due to the mass shadow generator. If not for that key event the powers they have never manifest. Besides Scion couldn’t go on forever and Nihlus would eventually eat to the point he had nothing to feed on and essentially off himself. Starkiller on the other hand was just a young man. He was what 17 when he pulled that Destroyer down? Palpatine couldn’t do that because his training just barely started. Anakin wasn’t even a Jedi Knight yet at that age, and none of the Sith Triumvirate could accomplish that either.

@@jankjaws9815 Theoretically, Sion could go forever. If his will wasn't weakened, that is.

You know, they better stay with non-Force (if not Skywalker-based) storylines instead.

there are sith lords more bad ass than him Disney is just stupid

It's Disney, Nihilius, everyone's a jake to them, including their own fans who sustain their very existence.

Don't tell Disney about him, they will ruin it.

They couldn't let a man ruin MaRey Sue ThE BeStaST EvAR

he wasn't addicted, the mass shadow generator just made him insanely hungry for life force, and he had to keep feeding to keep himself alive.

@Amritansh Mishra Rehab centers hate him

Nah, he just had an appetite.🤣

Vitiate needed rituals and tons of bloodshed to do those to top it off. Nihilus didn't. Still, DE Sidious could create multiple Force Storms that could devour fleets and ravage the surfaces of planets. He also teleported Luke by ripping a hole in the space-time continuum.

It is even more funny/terrifying once you realise G0-T0 directly says to you that outer rim planets are slowly becoming lifeless , besically revealing that Katarr wasn't the only place he ate .

@@ra.n9482 KOTOR 2 was amazing. Did you know that Nihilus is symbolic?

@@sirpepeofhousekek6741 course I did , the symbolim is not hidden in the game .

@@ra.n9482 Oh? I played it many times. Can you quote it?

The Meme Lord of the Sith

People were saying oof before memes were even a thing

_Ironic_

No one like this comment he has a perfect 66 likes

@@brandenbosserman7162 it's ruined. :')

True, the common fatal flaw of the jedi is their belief that they need to fight wars for the republic. That has always ensured their own downfall as war is philosophically the worst thing the jedi can commit to and often results in their fall to the darkside

@@shamrock141 That fact is that every war that lead to the downfall of the Jedi can be traced back to the first Jedi war, the great schism. the one that lead the first dark Jedi to Korriban

In the same vein that Nihilus is a punishment for the Jedis, Nihilus was also a representation of the ultimate destination of the Sith ideology as well. An ideology where it's code is to constantly purge the weak will ultimately grow so large that it will end up eating it's own tail, and as it does, it grows weaker and weaker, even if its physical being somehow grows bigger. KoTOR 2 is such a wonderful deconstruction of Star Wars because it manages to critique not only a single aspect of its themes but all the parts in it aswell. Fantastic game.

He, like Sion and Meetra, are embodiments of the nature of the dark side. Nihilus was the all consuming hunger for more. Sion, the pain and suffering. And Meetra, the dominating and corrupting nature of the dark side.

@@corruptangel6793 The signs that lead to the realisation that the jedi are just as bad as the Sith they fight against. They have committed similar atrocities to the sith. To be honest, due to how stuck up the jedi order can be, I think they are worse then the sith in most cases, as they never take responsibility for what they have done.

@@blackpanther6208 Pfff Darth Jar Jar is NOTHING compared to his master, Darth Gonk Droid!!!

Palpatine just got lucky he reaped the benefits of several generations of previous Siths hard work.

Sidious still lost

@@tristancoward6935 I mean that’s the point of the rule of two right

Name me the Sith lords and ill tell u why your wrong

He is the very definition of omnivorous.

Imagine a fight between nihilus and the tyranids

"Have you heard about Darth Nihilu, who become Sith to wipe out all who eat meat to protect Galaxy?"

@@myselft36yearsago Well... Tyranids are simply galactic pest with hive mind. They can eat whole planet but only as they physically eat stuff and mutate rest. Darth Nihilus would simply suck them dry.

_"I think Darth Nihilus is a Vegan Sith."_ *"A VEGAN SITH?!"*

The Senate

Palpaties master was also stronger then palpatine resorting palpatin to kill him on his sleep tho i am not sure what happend

D E W I T

@@m7gxz477 palpatine wasn't in his prime tho

@@m7gxz477 So he was lying in bed, giving Palpatine the high ground. No way a Sith master would make such a mistake, it must have been done deliberately to allow Palpatine to ascend.

"Because there are none that survived to tell the tale"

@Varun Nathamuni i mean like she ended him, yes, but he killed her after

He is even too terrifying for the sith to tell

Darth Nihilus is the Pennywise of the Star Wars galaxy.

Dearth Nihilus the Ravenous sounds better in my opinion.

@Skaank Huntt oh the irony. Says the guy that chose Gerald as profile pic and skank hunt as name

Hell yeah! I absolutely love how the game dove into the philosophy behind the Force, and really drove home how influential it is in the Star Wars universe.

Nothing short of a genius deconstruction of the absolutist morality of SW

Im sure you saw the philosophy of kreia vid on youtube. Very deep analysis.

@@jjeaze A timeless classic that is.

The zombie sith

Breaking News: Local Scottish Man too angry to die finds love in the most unlikely of places, promptly dies. News at Eleven.

I'm sure someone can make a mod for that...

*hungry Sith noises*

Doesn't he say nothing but gibberish?

@@DamnDaimen he spoke the ancient sith language

@@shaheenshaikh4525 So ancient only babies spoke it.

Bruh ten likes This will definitely make my parents respect me

@@grimgrom3355 hello there

@@00Grimreaper00 omg...

That shit would be a fuckin horror film and disney aren't likely to do that

@@hollunk6969 because with disney we can't have anything good movie wise.

Nah, he would just eat the audience..!🤣

He deserves a Triology like Anakin Skywalker

A Movie about how Nihilus (and Sion) came about would be great!

I thought It was the comic where he literally said "oof".

Sadly, yes.

And not even a good meme

Wasn't he a meme since 1983?

@@michaelandreipalon359 it was the prequels that catapulted Palpatine to meme lord status

😯

Kreia is one of the greatest characters in all of Star Wars lore.

Or gets a heart attack from all that over-eating!🤣

@@InfamousLegato I couldn’t agree more. The deconstruction of Star Wars and the force in general presented through KOTOR II is worth thorough examination.

So Darth Nihilus is the Jason Voorhees of Star Wars essentially

I mean they can find his ghost on korriban where they brought his armour

Wouldn't happen. Vader and Sidious are leagues above him.

@@nicholaspeterman9111 what was the last time Vader consumed planets? He lost to Starkiller who can barely pull down a star destroyer.

@@helloeveryone5251 considering the guy who created nihilus said he couldn’t beat Vader and palps?

@Ruosong Gao isn’t Vader immune to drain? Idk about palpatine

He was destined to consume the galaxy. But then he encountered a glitch in the Force and crashed.

@@Rastislav000 That is a pretty accurate way to describe it.

a hole in a hole

At work, we had a kid (about 9-12 give or take) who had a Padawan braid and we were psyching out. Then he asked us to guess who he was for Halloween. We assumed the usual culprits (Vader, Maul, etc). Then he said two words that made us holler through the roof in jubilation: “Darth Nihilus”. That boy is certainly brought up right (in Star Wars terms that is)!

To be fair, more people are familiar with the first KotOR, if not only the movies and TV shows. In other words, there are a lot of casual Star Wars fans, and some of them are too casual for their own good.

@@tweso1499 Yeah, that kid's was raised well in Star Wars. Hope he's also raised well in real life however.

@@michaelandreipalon359 same here

@@tweso1499 freaking LEGENDARY.

Actually sand is a mix of rock particles and dust so therefore rocks are different than sand

I don't know about that one chief.

no, rocks are granddaddies of sand

*Cue Anakin screaming at random rocks*

Fun fact: Metal also has earth in it. If you're a capable Earthbender, you can actually try to Metalbend. Sorry, A: TLA fan here.

Stormtroopers just have the worst luck

Is he even still a man?!

@ @@michaelandreipalon359 , he used to be a man, a human - but he used up this type of force energy so much, that his entire body just disappeared..

@ @@gladiatorjeff2283 , no they have good luck, amazing aim and are incredible fighters

@@thekhans2823 That depends on the division. If there are two things we shouldn't do, don't cross with the 501st Legion and the Hand of Judgment.

If Kreia didn't lure Nihilus, he would have kept consuming more and more until there was nothing left in the universe except himself, at which point he would starve and there would be nothing left in all of the universe.

@@cleverman383 his name is derived from Nihilism, meaning literally believing in nothing. You are exactly right, he would have eventually consumed all life in the galaxy leaving nothing left and needed to be stopped. There would have been no Republic left for Emperor Vitiate to attack 300 years later if Darth Nihilus hadn't been defeated above Telos IV.

Sounds like an amazing trilogy

The pinnacle of movie thicc-ness…

Maybe there was some merit to Vader's words when he said. I always just thought it was Vader just being an arrogant bastard.

@@ashtonchane6126 The power of the dark side is what allowed Palpatine to conquer the entire galaxy, destroying a planet or two is literally insignificant

@@ashtonchane6126 Nah Vader was being literal. Destroying a planet is a pretty mid-level feat in legends.

Not really. His the easiest boss fight in the game

@@srottfaen honestly the kotor series is a series where you have to separate gameplay difficulty from lore strenght

yeah I've noticed this guy tends to aggrandize the "good" characters (aka empathetic ones) and downplay and even demonize "bad" characters (which includes Ki-Adi Mundi in his opinion, because he is emotionally detached, like idk, a JEDI IS SUPPOSED TO BE??) like Im sorry, but does this mean Ayla Secura, Mace Windu, Jango Fett, and others are all weak? - because they were certainly killed with less handicaps and planning than Nihilus was. Half the game frames him as your main baddie, with Sion popping in every now and then and Kreia being Kreia. Its just nonsense when he downplays characters he doesnt align with morally.

yet he is very weak. his power controlled him and consumed him and he had no control over his own actions, a slave to hunger.

@@loganmoody1816 he isnt wrong tho.... his power made him weak, he had no control over it and it controlled him, he was merely a slave to his own hunger. they frame him as the "big baddie" as a diversion from the actual big baddie. kreia, who manipulated all these events to achieve revenge against the force its self in an attempt to purge the galaxy from how she views the tyranny of the force's will. nihilus was a force of nature as she puts it but also weak, a walking corpse that devours everything around it until it eventually consumes all life and eventually starves and dies. again, he is a slave to his own hunger and lacks any real control over himself or his power. the power of his hunger is great and terrible but it is not his own power

Maybe we should mail it to executives of Disney and tell them the possible financial benefits it could bring Because typically , they will only make a major project unless it brings big bucks to their pockets

They have mentioned making a movie around that era

YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DO HIM LIKE THAT.

That's cold.......

@@banebeard cold but true

Poor Palpatine he is going to need more then ice for that burn

@@theblackswordsman3612 maybe get him that cold lightsaber????

Correct. Before that awful Revan book and the MMO came out, Revan never met any Sith Empire, he only saw signs of them and used brilliant strategy to create his own Sith Empire to prepare the galaxy for their arrival.

You can learn a lot of Revan's tactics from the interface he created on the Edean/Kashyyyk Star Map

*Meetra

Was Nihilus starving when they fought is that why he was so weak?

@Joseph Douek not to mention Meetra's insanely powerful ability to master anything just by WATCHING it happen. Hell I bet she could consume planets too

@@libertyprime1614 in short the Exile is his kyptanite he was way more powerful than her but she is his perfect counter so that power doesn’t mean jack

@Mad Philosopher that dwells in the halls of madness he didn’t eat one planet for decades he ate multiple ones but traveled for decades to always find suitable planets to consume. He properly consumed planets as fast as a normal meal

You mean "The Exile".

I mean yeah that's her title

@@PumpkinPain That depends on how you choose to describe him/her in your KotOR II playthrough.

Yes?

@@michaelandreipalon359 It's been two hours and i'm still trying to figure out what you meant

How do you burp that out after eating it?🤷‍♂️

Especially since that's one of the main aspects of his character. No longer any face behind the mask, no longer any body beneath the robes. The man he once was had consumed himself. Now nothing more than just a hunger for the sake of hunger.

Thought it was a play off of nihilism. The philosophical belief that all things are meaningless. Nihilus needs to eat but his hunger grew so no matter how much he ate, he would never be satisfied and would only grow hungrier. His eating is meaningless

@@FeedMeChaos1 nihilism itself comes from the latin root "nihil-". Both derive from nihil-, but for Nihilus I think translating "nihil-" as "void" is more accurate, and as "nothingness" as in "everything has the value of nothingness" for Nihilism.

Sith names are pretty on the nose. Darth Nihilus was a being of nothingness. Darth Sidious was quite insidious Darth Tyranus was on his way to become a tyrant Darth Vader was actually someones father

@@HappyBeezerStudios Vader isn’t referring to father, it refers to the word “invader”(That’s why Vader is pronounced Vay-der like in-vay-der rather than Vah-der like the Dutch word for father). Just like Darth Sidious it knocks off the “in” prefix. Darth Vader’s name was probably created initially as a jumbled up way of saying “Dark Invader” as he was first shown invading the Rebel ship in A New Hope clad in black armor. Unlike most other Sith titles Vader’s never had any real meaning behind it when it was created. I believe Sith titles come from the force itself to summarize the darkest aspect of the person, although I could be wrong, I thought I read it in a book once that Sidious got the name for Vader from searching the force, although maybe I’m misremembering things.

@@kaiserreichempireofohio834 Nah that is only one possible explanation and it's based on speculation. From Wikipedia: "According to Star Wars creator George Lucas, he experimented with various combinations of names for the character built upon the phrase "Dark Water". Then he "added lots of last names, Vaders and Wilsons and Smiths, and ... just came up with the combination of Darth and Vader". After the release of The Empire Strikes Back (1980), Lucas stated that the name Vader was based upon the German/Dutch-language homophone Vater or vader, meaning 'father', making the name representative of a "Dark Father".[7] Other words which may have inspired the name are "death" and "invader",[8] as well as the name of a high-school upperclassman of Lucas's, Gary Vader.[9][10] As no other character with the title "Darth" was introduced until the release of The Phantom Menace (1999),[u] some viewers interpreted it as the character's first name, in part because Obi-Wan Kenobi addresses him as "Darth" in the original film.[11][v] The moniker is bestowed upon Anakin in Revenge of the Sith (2005) upon his turn to the dark side of the Force."

Tenebrae/Vitiate/Valkorion: Allow me to introduce myself.

If they're so awesome, why were they beaten by someone deemed as "the Exile"?

@@michaelandreipalon359 the exile was a wound in the force, and so she passively took power and strength from others, that's how she was able to beat Traya after fighting through the entire sith academy. She never technically beat Sion, she just eventually convinced him to let himself die. As for Nihilus, he couldn't drain her life force when they met, which weakened him and allowed her to destroy his physical form

What about me?

@@RhantheSlayer Hmm, passive defeats are still defeats all the same.

I'm getting Unicron vibes

That was Nihilus's curse. "Through Victory, my chains are broken" as the video states, the power was consuming him not the other way around and therefore there was no Victory for him.

The death of the Force is the only way that anyone would be free.

He is the True Primarch of the World Eaters :)

You know I’ve been thinking about the idea of Dave Faloni making a show or shows detailing the events of the Mandalorian wars the Jedi Civil War and the events of the Knights of the old republic games as well as the unreleased and ungreen lit knights of the old republic three although I feel like he would have to beg Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy to let him do it and I’m not just talking about doing it. I’m talking about keeping it as accurate to the source material as possible while altering a few things to fit with some new canon like for example Mitra Suric (I think that’s how you spell it) not destroying Malacore but doing something else to heal the wound in the force because Malacore still appears in rebles

How’d u get that clone trooper in ur name?

@@randombuildingintorontocan8962 you have to become a member to this channel.

@@duckduckduck6355 oh, thank you!

Go play fn.

When you think about it, Nihilus and Galactus would work quite well together, after all, Nihilus is only interested in the living things on the planet, whereas Galactus only wants the planet itself.

to be fair Vitiate was a shit lightsaber duelist and still became emperor

There's no hyperbole here. He was capable of doing things like using battle meditation on a galatic scale, muddying the perceptions of the the entire Jedi Order, using telepathy to potentially wipe the minds of millions+, directly impart Force power to his underlings, and perfecting Malgus' Force Maelstrom technique into full on Force Storms, capable of consuming entire fleets of ships and tearing the crust off of planets

@@stargatecommand714 But could he use his powers to make cookies? After all: If the Dark side has cookies, you are compelled to join.

Sidious is the greatest Sith lord of all time. He was the pinacle of the rule of two era sith. With that said should he come up against Nihilus he'd loose against him. Simple reason that only someone like the Exile can kill Nihilus and only because she's a wound in the force. Nihilus is a one trick guy. If he cannot force drain you. The rest of his abilities are average. So should Sidious know a way to defend against Nihilus's extremely OP force drain, he'd be able to cut him into pieces or disintegrate him with his force lightning. But this is a big if, and I'm more inclined to believe he can't as he is not a wound in the force therefore he cannot weaken Nihilus and defend against him at the same time.

@@vadfarkas14 Something tells me Sidious would have a fun time going against someone he can go all out on. Cackling like a madman all the way~

War Alone kills the force

Technically yes. But the sequels are terribly written and not smart enough to come up with that.

Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth plague us the wise?

The curse of bad gameplay design and having too many companions. Could have been worse though; was still a great play for a game that got a surprise rush-out deadline of a year (instead of the originally planned 3 or so, iirc)

You're missing the entire point of WHAT Darth Nihilus even is. He wasn't even a person during the events of KOTOR 2. No face hidden behind that mask, no body beneath those robes. Just a hungry void, just like what the Exile had the potential to become. And so when one void tried to feed on another, there was nothing to feed on. He starved, and ceased to exist. The mask and robes fell to the ground, and Darth Nihilus was gone forever.

what i take from all the talks and the game itself was that, while he is a powerful sith, his greatest feats were never his own, it was the wound itself. nihilus was a nobody and got that power simply for being in the wrong place. once the wound was healed, he was back to being that nobody. but who knows maybe that fight against him was the result of being rushed for a deadline lmao

*coughs in Darth Talon*

@CT-2307 lmao, fair point

Hey, what about Bane and Vader?

@@michaelandreipalon359 Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me.

Well written mate. The very embodiment of hunger sounds pretty terrifying!

You nailed it! He is A BLACK HOLE. Just a quick look at his mask and you'll know immediately what he is. Without his mask and robe, he is a void.

Don't forget Traya... I guess.

@@michaelandreipalon359 Kreia, Treya, Traya, I don’t fucking know anymore.

@@QixTheDS Kreia/Traya. Also, tone it down, OK.

Oh, you actually check on his vids too. Nice.

@@michaelandreipalon359 who DOESN'T check his vids?! He's a legend! His Star Wars music is AMAZING!

@@darthknightwingphoenix2081 this is true, his revan original theme is one of my favorites.

Agreed!

@@ming45612 that's not how that happened AT ALL. Meetra Surik gave the order to activate the Mass Shadow Generator, an order that was fulfilled by Bao-Dur. The resulting surge in gravity ripped apart Malachor V, and destroyed both the Republic and Mandalorian fleets orbiting it, killing hundreds of thousands if not millions of soldiers. The wound in the Force created by this catastrophic event deafened Surik to the force, and created Nihilus as well.

@@ming45612 there were plenty of Jedi present at Malachor V who weren't forced to cut themselves off from the force the way Surik was. Her condition was a result of her own natural ability - she was always able to form connections to the life and living beings around her far more easily than other Jedi. Thus, when those lives were snuffed out all at once in such a horrific manner, cutting herself off from the force was the only way that she could survive. Revan did not form connections with such ease, and thus was not affected as badly by the destruction of Malachor V - though it doubtlessly affected him, and likely drove him even further into the dark side.

Revan is already FAR more powerful than nihilus.

Both of them are incredibly powerful and badass

@@abeloth1116 Yeah but Revan is more powerful.

Nihilus isn't the dark side of the Force, he is the lack of the Force.

My Dude, DE Sidious Would Take On, Valkorian, Nihilus, Kryat, Rynx, Revan, Using 40% Of His Power, He Litterally Destroyed An Entire Galaxy In Dark Empire, And Took All The Jedi That Lived In His Time To Defeat Him, Quit Underestimating Sidious And Learn Your Shit Before You Make Stupid Comments.

Nihilus just gangs up with Hannibal, so Palpatine becomes the entrée for Darth Appetite, er, Nihilus.

@@Ujuani68 palpatine is stated to be able to destroy all of space which is infinite universes, dont try to pull shit on me

@@Wiz_Danger Chill, sweetie.