Yep. Don't forget that they stayed around, in both Legends and Canon. I think elements from the 501st even joined the First Order in Disney's story.

all clone trooper units under the empire were evil, so saying the 501st is evil bc of its role after the clone wars isnt a valid point imo as the 212th was just as evil under the empire, and the recon corps, and etc etc

Like they had a choice…

Didn't Appo command 501st only for a few days before he died?

Torrent Company was decent, but the 501st as a whole was bad.

And they thought they were superior to any other clone legion

The Coruscant Guard basically created the playbook for the future Stormtrooper Corps. They were true at-home occupiers, famous for such missions as (checks notes) forcing people out of their homes at gunpoint when the Galactic government seized control of their properties to build military staging areas while offering them no monetary compensation, and (checks notes again) ah yes, violently suppressing peaceful protests against the forced evictions, and who could forget (checks notes one more time) acting as hit squads tasked with silencing whistleblowers at the behest of the Chancellor. What heroes.

That’s what happens when you make men bred for war law enforcement, they treat the people as enemies

⁠@@Definitely_Not_Sheev_Palpatine There were also absolute goats in the Coroscaunt Guard, like my boy Thorn.

Yeah I think the same. I mean Wolffe and his men hated mercy missions, but at the end they did their job and they did it well. I'd put them at the same ad the 212th on the Evil list

Wasn’t the 104th nearly destroyed when they came into contact with the Malevolence?

@@lone-wolfgamer2259 in the early stages of the clone wars yeah, that was back when their colors were a nice red.

They also ran humanitarian missions and did search and rescue

@@Arryos Wait, didn’t the 212th round up civilians and cast them off of Utapau during Order 66 in the 3rd movie?

That’s wasn’t their whole purpose, their main purpose was fighting. They just happened to be ordered to do it.

Yessss. I love slaughtering them before they get to dig their way out.

Fox?

@@eddieram435 CC-1010 also the guy who shot Fives to death.

@@thatman666 HE SHOT ME IN THE MIDDLE OF MY MENTAL BREAKDOWN!

@@CT--xj5jf skill issue

They also didn’t see much large scale action.. probably the most was that time they went to see the banking clan/ treasury … and when the home world was attacked directly.. other than that not much but security and policing..

Very sad, but I am happy for the 212th.

Mostly because in the Clone Wars the only 501st stuff was shown was Torrent company which had Rex, Jesse, Hardcase, Tup, Fives, Kix, Dogma and Appo. Torrent company were actually good men in the 501st

@@JuanGomez-bs6ue appo a good man? I dunno about that mate

@@JuanGomez-bs6ue Torrent company, on the same level of good morality as the 212th and 104st. :)

@@CT--xj5jf Maybe not fully good, more like Dogma, someone who just wants to be a good soldier, against their better judgment. Personally, of the four 501st Commanders, I view them like this Rex Good, Appo Low-Eevil at worst Neutral at best, Vill Evil. and Voca Evil.

even if Boil was originally a specist, tho his views did seem to change.

No, the Republic is the right side, that it became the Empire doesn't change that. The Republic was in need of reform, yet remained benevolent. The separatists were openly controlled by the Sith, were even more beholden to corporations, and committed far worse war crimes than the Republic.

oh absolutely. Since the clones had no parental figures on Kamino, they definitely take after their Jedi.

Thats what i was thinking

Ya, right eh? 🖖😁🤘🇨🇦

I'd say they are above the 212th

Probably similar category to the 212th. But of course, no Clone is good on this channel. (Because Geetsly's is pro-Sepratist, and at this point, considering the Empire and the FIrst Order, who isn't?)

Glad I could help Fives ;]

May you rest well brother

@@ARCtrooper65 thanks brother!

Boil survived.

And both of them fit mentaly to their clones

The Wolfpack and Coruscant Guard aren't lesser known units. Geetsly kinda hates the Coruscant Guard lol

@@JuanGomez-bs6ue who doesn’t like the Coruscant Guard

@@davidvasquez08 same I kinda like them the coruscant guard and the wolf pack are my two favorite legions

@@Mark-cy1jg what I meant was not liking them, my bad

@@JuanGomez-bs6ue I didn’t mean they were lesser known units. I don’t really know a whole lot more units other than these three. I was referring to the other units like the yellow ones in Fallen Order.

I tried to do my job well but I got shot by Fox

@@CT--xj5jf I cried when you died lmao

@@iusedtomakeoutwithmedusa thanks

@@CT--xj5jf np

Orders to bomb known civilian houses, schools and hospitals are illegitimate orders that Western soldiers are trained to not follow.

I don't remember Geetsly saying that. I thought he always covered Legends, and TCW is included because it's T-canon.

@@user-yq9im9dk9z He used to do that for his earlier videos about 4 or 5 years ago. And he also does videos covering Canon events, though I think he examines them through a Legends lens. For instance, he considers Republic weaponry being misused and being very Sith-like. I can’t fairly say whether Geetsly has changed over the years or not, so somebody else should determine that. If the question was about Generation Tech, I could be more confident. He’s honestly more optimistic about the good guys, which is saying something given how he used to say the Republic and Jedi Order deserved their fall. And he’s become more critical than ever of the Galactic Empire, saying it was basically designed to fail and is worse than democracy’s worst flaws, which he does also point out. Tech still references Legends every now and then, but he honestly seems like the opposite of Geetsly nowadays.

@@tristankawatsuma8962 I've kind of noticed that myself. I've been watching Geetsly videos for a long time now myself, and while I still like many of his videos and respect him greatly as one of my all-time favorite Star Wars KZfaqrs, but I too think he's been getting a lot more negative in recent years, especially in terms of his views on the Republic. I mean he is right, the Republic was very corrupted, but I do think he's exaggerating how bad things were, it was always going to become an Empire, there was a chance for things to turn out differently and better during the Clone Wars, but thanks Palpatine's manipulations and a few others like Tarkin, they ensured that only the worst possible outcome, aka the Empire forming, would occur. But nowadays Ggeetsly seems a lot more negative than he uses to be. I remember a video he made about 2 years ago maybe 3, where he talked about who were the good guys in the Clone Wars, at the end of the video he said that no side in the Clone Wars was good as they were all corrupt in one or another, which he was right there really was no true good side during the Clone Wars, but at the end of the video he also pointed how there were still good people on all sides fighting for good noble reasons even if the sides they choose were completely corrupt. Yet in this video, he seems to contradict that statement by saying at the end how no Clone Units were really good, even though I personally think there were good Clone units who were truly good and heroes like the 212th, the Wolf Pack, Torrent Company(the section of the 501st Rex led), and so on. Even the title of this video seems to be more negative and contradicting than it should be, as it's most evil to least evil, instead of evil to good, implying that there were no good Clones or Units even though there were and Geetsly himself as I said pointed out there were still good people on both sides even if the sides themselves were evil and corrupt. Whereas Generation Tech(I'm not as big a fan of his as Geetslys, but I've seen a fair few of his videos so I to think he's gotten more optimistic) is kind of becoming the new Geetsly with how much more optimistic and how he more often combines Canon and Legends. Heck, he even ends most of his videos nowadays by saying, "Well, thanks for watching. And remember, my allegiance is to the Republic to Democracy." So even he seems to be liking the Republic more nowadays, since despite what Geetsly has claimed before, the Republic and Empie are different from each other, even characters in-universe point that out: Echo: Galatic Empire? Where soldiers of the Republic. Rex: My loyalty was to the Republic, not you're Empire. The Republic was corrupted and flawed, but it was still better than the Empire because there was a decent amount of good Jjedi, Clones, and even Senators. But sadly by the end of the Clone Wars, all these good people were either dead, captured, decommissioned, or just on the run, leaving only the most evil and corrupt people with all the power and influence.

I'm sorry huh

@@ARCtrooper65 Sorry about what?

Geetsly did grill the Coruscant Guard in many videos before, so he probably decided not to include them for that reason.

your point?

The Sith were a race themselves hell bend on oppressing the galaxy and irredeemably corrupted by the dark side, who themselves had committed several ethnocides. The Mandalorian ethnocide was during a period of fear in the immediate aftermath of the New Sith Wars. It is evil, but does not make an Empire, the two ethnocides took place thousands of years apart and during periods of great turmoil. The Jedi took no part in either ethnocide. Neither happened in Canon, only Legends.

The natives were shooting at the Galactic marines with sonic weapons and carrying them away.

Wolf Pack definitely is top tier good guys in the GAR and the 332nd was just a splinter of the 501st detached for the Siege of Mandalore

Bacara was cold and ruthless but he wasn't a sociopath or anything of that ilk.

@@MiguelRuiz-zq6vs Yeah figured, just couldnt help but ask the question rhetorically

Name an atrocity, not false surrender or torturing Poggle the Lesser. The CIS committed genocide and used biological weapons. The CIS was worse than the Republic, that seems to be it.

@@questionmaker5666 Have you watched Geetsly’s videos like this one? In seemingly every one, he mentions a war crime committed by the Republic.

after fox dies they are the guards of the imperial capitol. i doubt it

I miss legends Cody, a man that would kill an entire legion of recruits if it meant having a single clone trooper.