Geisha vs Maiko vs Oiran: The Truth and Misconceptions REVEALED!

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Do you know the difference between Maiko vs Geisha and Geisha vs Oiran? Discover the truth and misconceptions about geisha!
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@FlipJapanGuide 4 жыл бұрын

What's the most interesting thing you found in this video? 😍 Let us know in the comment section below!

@tudormiller8898 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing video, very informative. I hope I can meet these special women when I visit Japan. Watching from London.

@RedmiRedmi-go6cl 3 жыл бұрын

🐟........🐉

@khansasatvia4261 3 жыл бұрын

My thesis was about Maiko and Geisha, i wish to find your video back then five years agoo, thank you so muuuch

@MultiRozey 2 жыл бұрын

Have you published them? I would love to read it.

@totallyawesome7548 4 жыл бұрын

Maikos also paint both of their lips, only first-year maikos paint their lower lip only. At 3:09 you have an arrow pointing to the girl on the left while talking about geisha's hairstyle, but she is a maiko. You can tell that she is a maiko by looking at her obi, which is hanging down instead of being tied like geikos. You can also see a piece of red cloth and some flower hair ornaments in her hair which is never seen on a geiko. Both girls wore the wareshinobu hairstyle, which are hairstyles of junior maikos, once they get promoted to senior maikos their hairstyles would change to the ofuku style. Maikos usually become senior maikos in their second or third year working as a maiko. So I would guess the girl on the left is probably in her second or third year while the girl on the right is in her first year, you can she has strands of flower petal ornaments hanging down at the front which is a type of kanzashi only first-year maikos can wear. Ok, I know I seem a little too obsessed, I'm out.

@FlipJapanGuide 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! There's so much to know and learn about this gorgeous culture, I'm still learning every day! Really appreciate that. I have added your comment in the description :) I think it's easy to get obsessed with this part of the Japanese culture :P How do you get to know so much about geisha and Maiko? I'm very curious to know more!

@thefury-187 3 жыл бұрын

@Totally Awesome you seem to have extensive knowledge of the Japanese culture...You should drop content as well🤔🤔🤔

@moushimoushi8963 3 жыл бұрын

Great corrections~ though most of the pictures used in this video were neither geisha or maiko, but henshin, people who pay a studio to dress them up in these different custumes. There were only a couple pictures of real maiko and geiko (the kansai term for geisha where maiko is also used)

@totallyawesome7548 3 жыл бұрын

@@moushimoushi8963 ah yes. upon closer inspection, I noticed that in the picture that I was referring to, the two ladies do not have a kanokodome on their buns which does seem a bit odd.

@moushimoushi8963 3 жыл бұрын

@@totallyawesome7548 there are a few different signs for them, signs you would be able to use for a lot of henshin. They’re wearing kanzashi for different months, they have stark white collars at the front despite having the hair ornaments for first year (the one on the left is wearing shidare as well, the angle makes them more difficult to see) and they’re wearing cheap clip on obi ^^

@jennimpeal 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting. You clearly described the subtle differences between the jobs of these women and how they could be identified.

@FlipJapanGuide 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I'm so glad you liked the video :)

@_kanu_coverz_ Жыл бұрын

I like the way you explain us each and every thing in a good way..!☺️

@k0bb 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing, just what I was looking for. Thank you!

@chichi19570 27 күн бұрын

Oiran's are extremely beautiful. To be able to walk in koma-getas that high along with the traditional walk is an art in itself.

@crystalheart9 2 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed the video thanks so much!

@otiosumiustumintueri9295 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the vid, that was enlightenment me well

@FlipJapanGuide 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it :) Japanese culture is so interesting!

@xiaoecstasy 3 жыл бұрын

thank you,this was very helpful

@FlipJapanGuide 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Glad you found the video helpful!

@LittleThingsinJapan 4 жыл бұрын

Very nice content! I got redirected here from Facebook and I have to say I had a nice surprise to hear all these information, well elaborated and researched. Great job, nice to see these type of cultural contents!

@FlipJapanGuide 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Japanese culture is definitely unique and there are a lot to explore :) Just subscribed to your channel! Your content looks amazing 😍

@LittleThingsinJapan 4 жыл бұрын

@@FlipJapanGuide Thanks a lot for the support! I've already subscribed to your channel. Waiting for new videos! 😉👍

@itsbeedai9503 3 жыл бұрын

I only came to know about maiko from Kimono Mom

@Mewa_BM 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@johngomez8055 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate sharing these information in a way that is easy to understand. Stay safe! Hope beyonce should try that hair and that footwear :)

@Raquel1Robotically 3 жыл бұрын

So about the Oiran..... what do they look like after their service???? Do they have to put all their makeup back on???? Who picks her up??? Where does she go after?????? So many questions 🤯🤯🤯

@thefury-187 3 жыл бұрын

She would definitely need to reapply a lil lipstick depending how vigorous her head game is...💄💥💦

@oficial_aiko7471 3 жыл бұрын

They don't take off their makeup I think. how so where does she go after? does not come out of ochaya. And who takes it? some daimyos samurai and in the 20th century, When I really choose to exist I don't know.

@CuSkyStyleIsAwesome 2 жыл бұрын

I love learning

@FlipJapanGuide 2 жыл бұрын

Same! I love learning too :)

@hukague6264 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the clarification. Next time I visit Edo period. I’ll look for a geisha in the early evening and oiran in the late evening.

@FlipJapanGuide 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your support! I want to visit edo period too :D

@AirAddict 2 жыл бұрын

Bruh

@insertwittyname5649 3 жыл бұрын

I'm American and I think there might be another reason geisha were thought to be prostitutes. In western culture (or at least English speaking cultures) women that would entertain men for pay were usually prostitutes. And when people describe geisha they use similar wording, so that makes it sound like prostitution.

@danieldiangelis6502 2 жыл бұрын

I love the Oiran style and those 👠!!!

@jacquelinelucia2327 2 жыл бұрын

I seriously want to do some of these things.

@mrkim2167 3 жыл бұрын

Geisha is like an entertainer

@thefury-187 3 жыл бұрын

I got the part of orain

@emeraldkimble7602 Жыл бұрын

Is it passing wearing white makeup?

@nataliegrier3 3 жыл бұрын

I subscribe

@FlipJapanGuide 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! :)

@pierzazetargtv566 3 жыл бұрын

Are you a filipina po? BTW new sub here wala ako maisip mapanuod kaya about geisha nalang po haha I'm just curious lang po

@TheMichaelsuazo13 4 жыл бұрын

Is the term geisha and geiko interchangeable?

@FlipJapanGuide 4 жыл бұрын

Great question! Yes, you can use them interchangeably. ‘Geiko’ is more common in Kyoto :)

@TheMichaelsuazo13 4 жыл бұрын

@@FlipJapanGuide ahh thanks!

@moushimoushi8963 3 жыл бұрын

Kind of! Geiko and geisha are regional terms. Geiko is used in the kansai region and geisha is used in the kanto region. A geiko would find it strange to be called a geisha, and a geisha would find it strange to be called a geiko ^^

@subhadeepmandal3092 4 жыл бұрын

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@BobACNJ 2 жыл бұрын

In 2022..what would attract today's Japanese women to this lifestyle? It seems like quite a sacrifice.

@moushimou3170 2 жыл бұрын

There are a few things that might attract a person to this profession. Some include: The fame an notoriety: Maiko and geiko are like celebrities in their kagai (And out) that includes having paparazzi following them around (Which can be annoying to most, but it's not hard to see why some might like this attention.) They have fans, even fan clubs that are supporting them. A lot of maiko and geiko join after seeing maiko on TV programs including Koi Maiko The sense of community: Community is super important in the various kagai, women supporting each other, these small areas are bustling with greetings, well wishes, and people helping each other. There's a huge emphasis on hierarchy here where the proper respect needs to be given, but it's not like the seniors looking down on the juniors, rather they're expected to help them, guide them, support them and the juniors are expected to follow their guidance. Strangely enough, this hierarchy isn't based on age, but rather experience, how long you've been practicing sets your spot on the totem pole. Some women are drawn to this sense of community and this space of people supporting each other strictly by their peers. The luxury: While starting the profession is definitely difficult, it's a whole new world that can be difficult to adjust to with tight schedules, high expectations, not a whole lot of freedom, once a geiko becomes established and independent her time and her money is all hers, which by the way, that's a lot of money! Geiko are expected to spend their money on tools of the trade including their kimono and obi, instruments, lessons, etc but they can also spend it on whatever else they would like as long as they're covering their living expenses. That includes lavish vacations, clothing, events, whatever they would like, some savvy geiko even go on to open up other businesses to bring in even more money. Bumping elbows with the rich, powerful, and famous: Their clientele mostly consist of wealthy business people, but celebrities from around the world are known to enjoy an ozashiki while visiting the country. Along with celebrities many people high in government are also known to participate in ozashiki as well ^^ A stepping stone: Even completing a maiko apprenticeship is a huge accomplishment that would look great on a resume, some maiko and geiko use this profession as a stepping stone to other endeavors they have in the future. Along with the arts, they show great work ethic, determination, skills in working with others, and great communication skills as well as they navigate different social situations with sometimes intimidating people. Some leave to go to college, or expand their arts into other avenues or utilize connections they've made through the profession. The arts: The most obvious, women join the profession simply because they have an interest in the arts and want to help preserve the traditional arts of their country ^^

@serenasanchez2047 4 жыл бұрын

It’s a very little known fact, but Japan’s original geisha were actually men known as taikomochi.

@FlipJapanGuide 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing! Thank you :) I have added that into the description and our blog post, appreciate that!

@thefury-187 3 жыл бұрын

@Serena Sanchez So these "TAIKOMICHI" were they GAY men...👘

@moushimoushi8963 3 жыл бұрын

@@thefury-187 no, they were male entertainers. There were (and still are) taikomochi which were the musicians, and houkan who were the performers. It had nothing to do with their sexuality as again these artists didn’t and still don’t sleep with clients.

@thefury-187 3 жыл бұрын

@@moushimoushi8963 Are u sure i heard they were paid for sexual services and they were very lucradive about it in public...

@moushimoushi8963 3 жыл бұрын

@@thefury-187 taikomochi and houkan? Not that I’ve ever heard in my research. Considering they originally entertained the patrons of the courtesans as they waited for the courtesans to make their way to the tea house and the pleasure quarters were strict about who could do what I’m not really sure how they would sell sexual services.

@marthaross6301 3 жыл бұрын

Well done. But, already knew all this. I’m an American....

@thefury-187 3 жыл бұрын

Oiran having the bow in front allowing themselves to be undressed by their clients but you didn't divulge into the fact that they sleep with their clients so I won't be leaving a like...

@oficial_aiko7471 3 жыл бұрын

I don't think I mentioned that they are courtesans either, and a few more things I found on websites, but and because it is a very detailed and complex subject.

@thefury-187 3 жыл бұрын

@@oficial_aiko7471 Well you should have, just made the video longer don't just touch on the subject dive deep into it...💪👈👌👘🎎🎌

@oficial_aiko7471 3 жыл бұрын

Now that I saw it, I wrote it wrong. I was going to say that I think she, The person who made this video did not mention several things that I found on websites, For example that Oiran are courtesans, I ended up writing myself in her place. but it was important that she added some other details. but I will highlight the fact that this subject is quite complex.

@thefury-187 3 жыл бұрын

@@oficial_aiko7471 What's courtesans???🤔

@oficial_aiko7471 3 жыл бұрын

I don't think it was said in the video that Oiran are courtesans, why is it?